[BW2] Little Cup Resources

Discussion in 'Gen 5 LC' started by Weavile, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. Weavile

    Weavile Phoenix

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  2. Rigas

    Rigas Active Member

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    I started revamping the list to make it better and respond to the current metagame. Finished only High Offensive threats for now, gonna continue later.

    In the meantime, feel free to suggest changes!
     
  3. swampertman

    swampertman I'm Not Important

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    IMO Cottonee shouldn't be a high Defensive threat, Diglett, Darumaka, and mabye Poliwag should be some sort of Offensive threats, and Drilbur iirc is banned.
     
  4. Weavile

    Weavile Phoenix

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    Thanks a lot Rigas. It does need an update. I've been too busy recently to keep up with the metagame. But I will make changes if I see them suggested (if they're good ofc).
     
  5. Trak

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    I think elekid should be higher on the threat list, same with cubone. One poses high speed and good special attack and attack stats while the other poses huge attack and good defense. And porygon (the one usable in LC) does not get adaptability.
     
  6. Trak

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    Mienfoo's dificulty to be killed is over rated, aipom KOs most variants with fake out+return and if that isnt enough the second time it switches in with aipom it will either have to A) get KOed or B) have another team mate take an unwanted STAB return to the face. Speaking of aipom, i think it deserves a mention as a lead threat and an offensive threat with excelent speed, good attack, STAB priority fake out for revenge kills, good 153 base power STAB, u turn for scouting, taunt and a variety of coverage options which 1-2HKO its switch ins, it can even pull off minisweeps and has good bulk(two more in each defense than eviolite mienfoo with its own eviolite)

    I also think krabby for its great set up moves in hone claws, sword dance and agility and attack stat higher than abra's special (22) as well solid defenses, corphish for its new toy in adaptability which lets it do very large amounts of damage and DD to let it outspeed all non scarfers as well as boost attack, totodile too for the DD/SD+priority+torrent combo that rips holes in teams often OHKOing even resists. And zigzagoon probably deserves a mention for the strongest priority in the game hitting harder than dratini's e speed and im pretty sure other pokemons priority attacks along with belly drum, this thing wreaks easily, if it subs on WoW or toxic or belly drums while you set up its pretty much GG.
    nosepass' excelent bulk i think deserves a mention, reaching 20 defense with neutral nature and no investment what so ever as well as good special defense and a decent movepool with restalk or pain split, taunt, SR and Rock Polish along with STAB head smash.
     
  7. Trak

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    This neeeds an update
     
  8. Weavile

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    This is true, but, I'm no longer with the metagame so, if someone wants to write a changed list I'll edit it. Or if this person has the power to feel free to update it
     
  9. viamage

    viamage That one guy

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    I'm currently working on parts of a threat list for my guide, but of everything, the Threatlist should require collaboration instead of the voice of one man
     
  10. pokemonnerd

    pokemonnerd Only uso listens to pnerd. Devo too. Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Here, I made a threat list page on the wiki, so you guys can also add entries on there as well. I just put Abra and Axew on there so it wouldn't look as empty as it is.
     
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    viamage That one guy

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    i guess this makes a threat list on the guide obsolete
    edit: the genneral section is exactly what i wanted for the guide, so i'll be removing it and just referencing this page
     
  12. Trak

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    viash, good to see you eager to perk up the forums but lets wait until the retests are over, for all we know everything could be banned again
     
  13. viamage

    viamage That one guy

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    I know, I actually haven't done more then make skelotons because of those
     
  14. Weavile

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    Added Croagunk to Dwebble to the Wiki page. These retests aren't likely to change the position of everything so I figured getting something done couldn't hurt.
     
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    Just a heads-up that the threat list is now complete and grammar checked, feel free to use it for... whatever I guess
    Sorry for the double post but eh, there's purpose to it.
     
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    Missing Rufflet!!!

    Mentioning Nasty Plot Vullaby might be useful. It's probably one of it's better sets, killing Murkrow, Porygon, Misdreavus, Scraggy, Mienfoo, Timburr and others.

    Also I might be able to help with speed tiers.
     
  17. viamage

    viamage That one guy

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    so i just saw the threatlist, imo i would like to see it broken sown into threat categories and potency level
     
  18. Weavile

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    I think
    defensive and offensive threats isn't a bad idea but both that and threat levels is too much separation.
     
  19. viamage

    viamage That one guy

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    then just offensive / defensive? since threat levels will change
     
  20. Weavile

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    Sorted it into offensive and defensive threats. If people want to move stuff around or replicate stuff in lists either list what you want done or do it yourself.
     
  21. fitzy

    fitzy Heart of the cards Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Would add it myself but don't have an account but just going to say porygon is missing. Being #4 in usage its deffo should be on the list.
     
  22. Weavile

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    Overhauled the page into a general LC resources thread.
    Thanks for the Porygon suggestion, how did nobody pick up on that lol.
     
  23. viamage

    viamage That one guy

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    *looks at sig* uh, i haven't th e slightest