[POT] The Official Pokemon Online Tournament - Round 4

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  1. Fate/Dracoflare

    Fate/Dracoflare Kayneth Fried Circuits

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    Aww..both jcpdragonx and m dragon are out,screw you sir hax.And thank you archer for beating rina:p
     
  2. Groudon Ramsay

    Groudon Ramsay Active Member

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    This tournament has officially failed.
     
  3. Ginku

    Ginku Member

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    I agree with kokoloko.

    Oh well, eternal still getting it.
     
  4. Tears of tomorrow

    Tears of tomorrow In the dead of days

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    Gah, I am leaving to seaside (see THIS POST) and I will be able to be active again only after august the 28th. Is it too late? Can I have a bit more time to get the second (and I hope last) match against Jeanez done?
     
  5. Luck>Skill

    Luck>Skill Well-Known Member

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    Hannah strogth, jcp weak....

    but I'm weaker....

    Will play el intocable when I feel like my team won't suck so much

    Edit: lost...
     
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  6. El InToCaBlE!

    El InToCaBlE! Member

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    El InToCaBlE! 2-0 Luck>Skill Ggs
     
  7. IFM

    IFM HODOR HODOR HODOR

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    This is taking a lot of self restraint to not complain about the second game.
     
  8. Groudon Ramsay

    Groudon Ramsay Active Member

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  9. pokemonnerd

    pokemonnerd Only uso listens to pnerd. Devo too. Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    (01:01:59) +Jenaez: Eternal quit
    (01:02:04) +kokoloko: ^?
    (01:02:07) +Jenaez: He told me he quit every tour
    (01:02:11) +Jenaez: until the tiers are fixed

    So yeah.

    Mainly because IFM lost to a freeze.
     
  10. Whereabouts Unknown

    Whereabouts Unknown Absolutely Stunning Forum Moderator Channel Leader Forum Moderator Channel Leader

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    2-1 vs IFM, good games.

    I'll complain for you. Freeze hax in game 2 bs'd the match.
     
  11. YAYtears

    YAYtears Professional Noob Haxors

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    Wait this is for real right?
    At the tourney itself:fix the tiers before you start a tournament like this, I mean seriously. At least my battle against lampost was fair (team matchup wise).

    IFM: The tiers are going to take months to fix and this was the best time slot to run the tournament so I didn't want to wait a full year, but this is a discussion to be had at another place and time.
     
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  12. Halsey

    Halsey Wildstar

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    Bros are getting hax raped :|
     
  13. Jcpdragonx

    Jcpdragonx the business business

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    Might as well give it to...

    err

    **** it

     
  14. Amarillo Caballero

    Amarillo Caballero Member

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    Most of the players left are dedicated tournaments channel players, just because the Indigo players aren't winning doesn't mean the champ will be a random noob and doesn't mean it was a complete failure. Look at the NCAA tournament this year, Virginia Commonwealth made the final 4 and all the one seeds failed hard. But it was still a fun tournament. I'm picking Karppi to win this tournament.
     
  15. Halsey

    Halsey Wildstar

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    Eternal and IPL quit, Jcp and IFM got hax raped and M Dragon got bs'd with an activity lost. That is why most players left are from the tournaments channel.
     
  16. T-Dogg

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    Don't worry Indigo, I'm still here.

    (Activity post, me and Karppi talked on the server today. Will try and battle tomorrow sometime).
     
  17. Halsey

    Halsey Wildstar

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    I'm also here in case you didn't notice it t(-_-t)
     
  18. ASH_CHAMPION

    ASH_CHAMPION A very useless person~

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    Tell me about it :/. If you ask me the winner of this tour shouldn't get bragging rights. I mean IPL and M Dragon had some chances of victory but activity wins came in the way :/

    Anywho Good Luck T-Dogg
     
  19. Ginku

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    So now it is upon BR. What has this world come to?
     
  20. Fate/Dracoflare

    Fate/Dracoflare Kayneth Fried Circuits

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    Inb4 another this
     
  21. Gtfo

    Gtfo blinded

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    We're screwed man..
     
  22. Karppi

    Karppi Active Member

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    I won 2-0 vs T-Dogg
     
  23. T-Dogg

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    Confirmed.
     
  24. YAYtears

    YAYtears Professional Noob Haxors

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    I am probably going to be leaving so yeah another bs activity win next round.
     
  25. astrohawke

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    I agree with this. Seriously stop complaining. Being Indigo doesn't automatically make you better. It's completely stuck up. Hax happens. That's why it's a best of 3. Favourites get knocked out of sports tournaments due to unforeseen circumstances all the time. Doesn't mean the winner deserves the win any less. Please grow up.

    In any case, I'm posting to say that I haven't been able to get in touch with Eternal. But due to things in real life, I'm going to be on a lot less from now on or until circumstances change. If Eternal has not quit (since he hasn't posted to confirm it himself) then please just give him the win as it's unlikely I will be able to battle him before the deadline considering I never see him even when I was on a lot, let alone now.
     
  26. Eternal

    Eternal こんにちは。

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    Wtf, I didn't quit this tourny <_<. I quitted Team Showdown. Also, you should be able to get in touch with me whenever. I'm on the server for like 6 hours a day, just message me...
     
  27. Halsey

    Halsey Wildstar

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    Having enough time to waste playing tours all day long doesn't automatically make you better. If you are so ignorant that you think that we are supporting players like Eternal just because he is from indigo and not because he is actually really good you are wrong, simple as that. Personally I dislike winning with hax, because I'm not actually winning thanks to my skills, so it is less deserved than a haxless win.

    Anyway

    (00:41:06) +Eternal: wtf BR
    (00:41:08) +Eternal: I didn't quit
    (00:41:10) +kοko: well the window is open so dafuck
    (00:41:14) +Eternal: I quitted Team Showdown
    (00:41:16) +Eternal: not POT
    (00:41:19) +zeroality: silly mex
    (00:41:32) +meztips: kοko silly
    (00:41:35) +zeroality: eternal wants DAT RECOGNITION
    (00:41:40) +kοko: there you go mez
    (00:41:40) 114: lol
    (00:41:44) +meztips: yay
    (00:41:54) +Jenaez: ETERNAL
    (00:41:57) +Jenaez: You told me that
    (00:41:59) +Jenaez: ffs
    (00:42:00) +Jenaez: I remember
    (00:42:08) +
    Jenaez: I said "all the tours?"
    (00:42:11) +Jenaez: You said "yes"
    (00:42:12) +Jenaez: asdf
    (00:42:19) +Jenaez: Maybe you were raging
    (00:42:24) +Jenaez: but I'm not crazy 9__9
    (00:42:40) +Eternal: I meant the other tournies
    (00:42:46) +Eternal: not the official tourny
    (00:42:58) +Eternal: why would I quit the official tourny
    (00:43:03) +Jenaez: the POT is included in "other toournies"
    (00:43:09) +Jenaez: 9_____(
    (00:43:16) +Jenaez: I can't read your mind
    (00:43:20) +Jenaez: w/e, just win that shit
    (00:43:23) +Eternal: nah, POT is much more prestigious
    (00:43:24) +Jenaez: and give me my points
    (00:43:31) +Jenaez: for the prediction tour

    CRISIS SOLVED
     
  28. Groudon Ramsay

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    Eternal is back so I'm partially retracting this statement. Only partially though.

    That is all.
     
  29. Halsey

    Halsey Wildstar

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    Your "catchphrase" sucks

    That is all.
     
  30. Ginku

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    Wait so just to make sure that I got everything right, you'd be fine with getting out of the biggest tournament this site has because your opponent was simply more lucky? Like, who is actually the better player doesn't matter? You also don't care if some of the best players aren't participating when the winner is basically the "official best player"?

    Also how do inactive players get activity wins I don't get it
     
  31. Groudon Ramsay

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  32. Tears of tomorrow

    Tears of tomorrow In the dead of days

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    Meanwhile, I am with my gf, so I slowly slip out this tour due to inactivity...
     
  33. astrohawke

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    I never implied playing tours all day automatically makes someone better. But I think the remaining non-indigo participants are all good battlers who could beat indigos without hax. If one of them were to win, then they would deserve it regardless of what happened. You're free to support whoever you want but saying this tournament fails or implying that people can only beat your fellow indigo members due to hax is pure elitism.

    No I wouldn't be happy but I wouldn't make a big deal out of it either since neither player controls hax. If it happened, it happened. There's always the next big tour. Regardless, I think the remaining players are all skilled in their own right and hax may help some win an otherwise fairly even matchup. At this point, it's not like you're being haxed out by a total noob. I would just like to point out that IFM got freeze haxed in the second match? I'm sure that freeze did not decide the outcome of all 3 matches.

    Also if the "best" players don't care enough to participate then that's their problem. If Nadal decides not to play against anyone so they can't say they beat him, he doesn't get to stay #1. If he gets haxed and has an injury that takes him out of the game for a year, he isn't going to stay #1. Simple as that. You don't stay the best unless you continue to prove it whether or not you have proven it in the past. It's pointless to say so and so would have won if they had played. Might as well just cancel the tournament and make so and so the winner since it's so obvious they would have won.

    So yes, the winner of this tourney will be the official best player on PO as of now regardless of who did and didn't participate. Also I'm sorry if this post comes across as aggressive or has offended anyone because that's not my intention. I just really dislike elitism and bad sportsmanship.
     
  34. Ginku

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    I'll just say that if the official best player is not the actual best player then obviously something went wrong. And no you're not going to convince me that any of the remaining players safe for Eternal are as good as M dragon or IPL.

    Still wondering how inactive players get activity wins
     
  35. Halsey

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    Are IFM and Jcp out of the tournaments because thier opponent were better? No, they got haxed. I don't think all the Indigo players are the best, but I know who are better than who, and I know IFM and Jcp are better than the opponents they got. That is not being elitist, that is being realist. Feel free to think whatever you want but some reason I predicted against Luck, he is from Indigo and I wanted him to win.

    That is easy to say coming from the player who didn't get haxed in this tour. Hax is hax, doesn't matter if a total noob haxes you or a slightly less skilled player does, you still lose a match you should've won. Also in case you didn't knew IFM won the first match, then he got the freezze hax, which was the only reason he lost that match and the only reason they played a 3rd match, so yes the freeze decided the outcome of all 3 matches.

    You obviously didn't get Ginku's comment so I'm not even going to bother.

    Again with the elitism, people aren't complaining because some indigo people are out, people are complaining because the better players got haxed out of the tour. The fact they are from Indigo doesn't actually mean anything, you are the only one making a big deal about that.
     
  36. Whereabouts Unknown

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    While I appreciate Astro defending us, it's not like it’s right that lesser-experiences players should beat better players. If you’re going by that as your definition of failed, honestly the odds of this tour not failing were pretty low. The metagame we're playing in boils down to exploiting the advantages of the top mons, the team matchup, predictions, and luck, and with the amount of people you would count as successes to win the tour and how many you wouldn't it's not that unlikely a random tour noob would make it this far. IFM's still a better player than me, and 3 matches hardly describe our skill levels, at least in this meta. But if this were ADV, I'm sure we'd be watching the 4 best players in the semi-finals (and I'd have lost in round 3). Good players gonna lose to lesser players occasionally, and almost more often than not in this awful meta. Do I wish that I’d defeated IFM fair and square? Of course, and I almost would rather lose fair and square than win through hax. Why? Because the same thing happens to me, and it sucks on a small level (tour channel tournament) so it must suck a lot in a tour as prestigious as this.
    Unless we were playing a completely balanced metagame with all hax removed, better players are gonna lose sometimes. I understand how annoying it is because it happens to everyone. In any case, I'm sorry. :/
    I don’t think anyone is questioning that IFM is better than me or Jcp than Hannah. There is no tournament that determines who the best players is. There’re only tours that state who won their matches, be it through hax, skill, team matchup, inactivity, w/e. If a tournament failing is determined by how many players lost to hax, then perhaps
    But everyone’s definition of failed is their own…
    If you actually believe this you’re too Zen to be human. I’m pretty sure everyone is upset by hax. In fact I’m surprised IFM isn’t the angry one complaining about hax. And of course I wish I’d won legitimately through 100% skill but the odds of that were low. But obviously I’m excited to be in the 5th round and appreciate Astro pointing out that I’m not that much of a noob; you could have much worse in the quarters. In a couple years if we get our bans together we can hopefully have a tour that does not fail. Or we could have a 64-man ADV tour next month! In any case this particular tour isn’t the best measure of skill and I hope no one assumes so.
    There ya go.
     
  37. ASH_CHAMPION

    ASH_CHAMPION A very useless person~

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    I'd continue the discussion but they would prolly infract me or something. Anywho, Eternal is back.... uhoh D:
    inb4 Astro haxes him [/HIDE]
     
  38. Halsey

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    Thinking "x" player is better than "y" player doesn't mean "y" player is bad.

    Just sayin'
     
  39. Professor Oak

    Professor Oak same Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep

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    THIS TOPIC IS TO DISCUSS THIS TOURNAMENT DIRECTLY, AND SHOULD CHIEFLY BE USED BY THE REMAINING BATTLERS FOR ACTIVITY POSTS, REPORTING RESULTS AND UPDATES ON THEIR SITUATION, SHOULD IT AFFECT THE TOURNAMENT.

    IF THIS TOPIC OF CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER A CERTAIN SET OF USERS ARE BETTER THAN ANOTHER, I WILL INFRACT EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO POSTED ON THE MATTER - AUTH OR OTHERWISE. THIS INCLUDES WHEN THE NEXT ROUNDS OF THIS TOURNAMENT ARE POSTED.

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.


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  40. Eternal

    Eternal こんにちは。

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    Timezone difficulties between my opponent and I. He has given me the activity win due to his inability of getting the battle completed now.
     
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