[1st Round] Alphabetical Duel Explosion

Discussion in 'Tournaments' started by Mestre Nando, Apr 19, 2011.

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  1. fidgety

    fidgety Active Member

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    at least you have options i have only 1 really usable strategy with those stupid smogon clauses and even then that is up for debate.
     
  2. Aquadude

    Aquadude Member

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    there are only 3 pokemon that start with y should be change to another letter as yanma yanmega and yamask are the only three that start with the letter
    objection being to these letters I has 4 Q has 3 U has 5 X has 1 Y has 3 they have less then 6 pokemon and a team is 6 pokemon right
     
  3. Liberty Figter

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    Hey there-

    You banned drizzle and swift swim, but sandstorm and sand rush/veil/force. Did you mean sand stream?

    I'm assuming the move sandstorm isn't in itself OP?

    Thanks!
     
  4. Mestre Nando

    Mestre Nando Member

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    due to the cotinue asking about the banlist, I've changed it again. The list got a little different: instead of Sandstorm, the banned combinations include Sand Stream. The move Sandstorm IS allowed.
     
  5. Liberty Figter

    Liberty Figter Member

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    Thanks, sorry if that was a hassle.
     
  6. Mestre Nando

    Mestre Nando Member

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    no problem, I just realized it was too tough to make teams with so hard bans, so I've changed it with no problems =]


    Also, @Aquadude, you have more than 6 to use, I'm sorry you got letters with just some choices, but if you use them wisely you can get a lot of good results....


    Edit: Confirmed matchups result: Liberty Figter won against Wolfey
     
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  7. Rity

    Rity The One and Only

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    Even though i beat Katy, I would like to forfeit and give Katy my spot in the tournament. Good Luck Katy, good game too. :D
     
  8. DarkDiglett

    DarkDiglett free pridy

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    VM'd Pizza, i did see him online but he didn't have his teams ready so organizing a time shouldn't be too hard
     
  9. Latimaster

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    i just need to make a triples team now... >.< i wonder what i could do...
     
  10. SolBlade

    SolBlade New Member

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    One of my letters is X....
    The only pokemon with that letter is Xatu.
     
  11. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    I got X too.

    Mestre, you organised the tourney very, very well, with your awesome picture and colorful post, but there's one flaw - luck. For example, HitmonKerny got F, N, X, Y, Z. X, Y, Z, alone ensures that he has no chance of winning this tourney. Maybe make it slightly fairer by introducing new letters? Not every round, but maybe for each 2 or 3 rounds? this will make the tourney much fairer, and gives people a much better chance to win off skill than purely letters.

    It's just a suggestion, you don't have to take it.
     
  12. Luck>Skill

    Luck>Skill Well-Known Member

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    You don't have to use X...even I have O (that admittedly, has only Omastar as a usable pokemon, and it still sucks ._.)
     
  13. Wulfert

    Wulfert It is me

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    Well... I'm very busy with lots of stuff. I can't even create a good team with the letters I got so.. I'm simply giving Vicu the win.
     
  14. Mestre Nando

    Mestre Nando Member

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    @SuperScizor ok, Vicutini was given the win from your matchup.


    I'll probably change the "X" from HitmonKerny, but I think "Z" is fair enough. Zweilous with Eviolite, Zapdos, Zoroark.... the only banned is Zekrom...

    Also, I thought about changing letters between the rounds, but my decision was to not to make it, people would probably need to remake good part/all their teams, and some would be instisfated with it. It seems that everything is going fine by the logs I got, but I'll analyse it near the end of the round, if a lot of people leave 1/2 letters, I'll consider switching one letter between the rounds. I asume this tourney required some luck in the random selections of the letters, but I think that that's what will show the players' skills. Also, HitmonKerny, your new letter is "R", instead of "X". So, you get: F,N,R,Y,Z.

    And thanks for the compliments about the tourney Groshi =D
     
  15. T-Dogg

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    Me and Solblade have been in contact, and should battle in the next few days.
     
  16. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    Just another little suggestion - for example, if two people get to the finals, one has S, M, and other big letters, while one has X and not-so-fancy letters, could you balance it out?

    Thanks a lot for the response. :)
     
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    1. still nothing from iceydude

    2.@nando you posted that you were removing some of the more strict bans i had assumed that that meant the weather limiting clauses, but there has been no change to the op to reflect any changes that i have noticed; also really the only good z is zapdos, zoro makes ape seem bulky and Zweilous sucks even with evolite its best stat is a base 90 attack and it really has poor defensive typing and no recovery.
     
  18. Halsey

    Halsey Wildstar

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    Stop changing stuff in the middle of the tour; the letters were picked randomly, if someone letters sucks he/she must to deal with it, that is the whole point of the tour, not adapt my letters until i can use my standard team.

    Edit: Vm'd my opponent.
     
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  19. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    What would you say if you got X, Y, and Z? I'm pretty sure you would rant. HitmonKerny didn't rant and simply posted in a polite manner. That's already pretty hard to do.

    Anyways, I would like you to disqualify my opponent. It's been 6 days since he has not been online.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  20. Halsey

    Halsey Wildstar

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    I would complain about my bs luck, then i would make my gimmick team and try to win this tour, that is the point of this kind of tournament, adapt your teambuilder skills to a different set of rules and/or conditions; is not meant to be easy, it is meant to be a challenge.
     
  21. marmoteo

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    Yeah agreed. This is like the tourneys where you get random Pokemon and you are make to make a good moveset and give them synergy. Some people get really good Pokemon and some don't, and it's all part of the fun and challenge. From my letters, I can only find usable stuff in S and M, since in O, Q and U there is almost nothing, but I've had a lot of fun trying to make teams nonetheless :P
     
  22. DarkDiglett

    DarkDiglett free pridy

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    lost to pizza
    1-0 in singles, could have gone either way, one of those first crit wins situations
    3-0 in doubles, completely out played

    GG's
     
  23. Pizza

    Pizza I'm so bad at this game.

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    Confirming win over DarkDiglett

    ggs
     
  24. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    S and M are the best letters. Consider yourself lucky enough.

    With a whopping 94, S has by far the most Pokémon. M is in second with "only" 57.

    Trust me, I've tried to help HitmonKerny build a team, and it was nowhere near fun. We were using Floatzel and Zebstrika...
     
  25. "Bad To The Bone" Balla

    "Bad To The Bone" Balla so B.A.D.

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    Its true, but anyone who is saying FNXYZ isnt as bad as groshi and i are saying. Actually take a look for yourself, and try to make a viable team, oh wait, 3 viable teams. Anyways, thankyou Mestre for changing my letter, at least now i have a chance. :D
     
  26. fidgety

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    just to give a solid example when i saw my letters i proceeded to bs a second to third rate rain team for game 1 with politoad, gorrebyss, poliwrath/porygon2, omastar, zapdos, and ferrothorn, then i saw the no drizzle + swift swim clause i'll admit i was annoyed as hell but i reworked my team into something at least decent, i was already anticipating using gimmics later on.
     
  27. marmoteo

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    Lol errr ACTUALLY, B, C, and N are by far the most useful letters in my opinion. There is so much more you can do with them. My point is that people who signed up for this tournament (assuming that they have read the rules before spamming 'in'), should have expected the possibility of getting letters that might have forced them to invest a lot of time to come up with anything useful. Kind of when you enter a Challenge Cup tourney, or one of those tournaments that you are given random Pokemon to work with - there is the element of luck, and if you didn't get lucky, you just go with it and do your best with what you have got.


    EDIT: I shall take the opportunity to make this post an activity post, and to report that Jake Stone (my opponent) was last online on the forums on the 20th of April, which I'm guessing means he hasn't seen my VM or this thread.
     
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  28. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    I might agree with B cause of Blissey, Blaziken, and Breloom, and C cause of Conkeldurr, Chandelure (Wifi), and Cloyster, but N? NO WAY OMG. Fully evolved pokemon in N are Ninetales, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Ninjask, and Noctowl (...). None of them are even remotely good (Ninetales is not that good in this since you have much a more limited choice of pokes.

    And I actually agree with what you said. Just that we did spend a lot of time but it still wasn't good :(

    By the way, I'll list some awesome Ss for ref:
    Salamence, Scizor, Scrafty, Snorlax, Staraptor, Starmie, and Swampert are all excellent pokemon that are excellent in OU (Maybe not Snorlax and Staraptor, but they are still very good if they have synergy). S is definitely the best, cause you also get SHEDINJA ZOMG. <3
     
  29. [TUS] Charizard92

    [TUS] Charizard92 Member

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    Nidoking @ choice scarf
    Rivalry
    4 moves

    just don't put it in on blissey unless you're absorbing status. If you want a bliss counter, use poison point
     
  30. Latimaster

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    Roy Mustang won me 2-1, GG.

    Well at least i dont have to PM the logs... >: )
     
  31. Roy Mustang

    Roy Mustang HOMOSEXUAL UNICORN

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    Confirming this. If I read the earlier posts correctly, if both parties confirmed I don't have to pm the logs? I don't want to spam your inbox.
     
  32. Latimaster

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    Oh then nvm.
     
  33. Mestre Nando

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    @Groshi and @marmoteo:
    Your opponents will have a few more days, I'll VM you when their time is expiring. Thx for keeping me informed.

    > About the discussion about the changes and etc, that was an exclusive case, because HitmonKerny got 3 almost unusable letters. The only thing I've changed in the bans was actually Sandstorm for Sand Stream, which means that, for getting your ability bonuses, you need the move Sandstorm. No more changes will be made, so don't ask for them anymore. FINAL STATEMENT.

    > Pizza's and Roy Mustang's wins were confirmed. No need of logs with both confirming, not for now.
     
  34. LyraOfNewBark

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    Nando, can you pm my opponent and tell them I'm ready? I have't seen Long in the server as much as I know
     
  35. Mestre Nando

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    @Lyra:

    Well, I think that, as a participant, you should VM/PM your opponent. If you've done this/do this and you haven't got any answer, just wait, he'll probably be DQ'd for inactivity. But I ask you to contact him before.
     
  36. Liberty Figter

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    About Long: I know him personally and that he'll definitely be playing you for round one. He hops around servers a bit... I'll tell him to contact you within the next day or two.
     
  37. LyraOfNewBark

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    Okay, Thank you
     
  38. T-Dogg

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    My apologies to Solblade, I won't make it on at our arranged time today. I'm scrambling to find another time available, but if we're unable to by the deadline he may have the activity win.
     
  39. Pizza

    Pizza I'm so bad at this game.

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    Are we keeping our letters for the entire tournament? I love my letters.
     
  40. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    Yeah, I'm stuck with X :x
     
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