Moderator/Administrator names.

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  1. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    I'm gonna implement a way to distinguish what moderators and administrators say in the main chat, from regular users.

    Some ideas were:

    • Increased font size for names.
    • Italic names.
    • Underlined names.
    • A character beside names (eg. +coyotte).
    • Make their messages bold.

    There are too many different variations to make this into a poll. So post your ideas below. If we all can't agree, things will stay as they are.

    Here are some screenshots:

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  2. Elements

    Elements BOOMER SOONER Forum Moderator Server Staff Forum Moderator Server Staff

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    I particularly like the one with just the bigger font. It seems more sleek and simple than the one that is italicized and underlined.
     
  3. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    Personally, I think it would be best to wait until coyotte make it so you can do it by server script. Then each server can choose it their own way. Unless you're able to make the formatting available for scripting?
     
  4. Professor Oak

    Professor Oak same Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep

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    I think a simple character beside their names would work well enough. + and @ are commonly used.

    And I apologies for the "icles". Force of habit.
     
  5. Elements

    Elements BOOMER SOONER Forum Moderator Server Staff Forum Moderator Server Staff

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    I checked and you can already use the '@' symbol in your name. However you can't use the '+' so just throwing that out there.
     
  6. Erebos

    Erebos Banned

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    Oak, shame on you.

    Though I'm not auth, I'll drop my opinion and say that the underline looks good. Bold and Italics are meh (I don't mind them, but overdoing it will not look nice, like in the second picture). Also, a character such as + would be great.
     
  7. Akusu

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    Underlines... are underwhelming. I'd say that it makes sense to put the stars in their names when they're chatting. It would correspond perfectly with the way it's already implemented in the side bar.
     
  8. Elements

    Elements BOOMER SOONER Forum Moderator Server Staff Forum Moderator Server Staff

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    I think seeing a moderator or admin have asterisks by their name in the main chat would look kind of ugly.

    Elements *: Hello everybody!
    Elements **: Sup guise!
     
  9. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    It wouldn't be the six pointed asterisks btw, elements. You can actually put the five pointed ones in - like there is atm in the user list.
     
  10. Astruvis

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    I would like a plus for mods, and a tilde for admins, but only if they have lv3 auth or below, I want to be able to continue to exploit that glitch for invisible auth. <.<

    Maybe italic, but not underline.

    I would actually want it to be a server option, ex:

    Lv1:

    [ ] italic [x]underline [ ]bold
    Symbol in chat:
    [+]
    Symbol in list:

    [*]

    Lv2

    [x] italic [x]underline [ ]bold
    Symbol in chat:
    [~]
    Symbol in list:
    [**]

    Lv3

    [x] italic [x]underline [ ]bold
    Symbol in chat:
    [~~]
    Symbol in list:
    [***]

    Where everything in the brackets is changable, maybe go up to auth lv 10.
     
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  11. zeroality

    zeroality Artificial Insanity

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    It already looks like nobody is going to agree about this so perhaps Lutra's suggestion is best, about implementing a script function for it.
     
  12. Kioku

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    Italics.
     
  13. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon is an espeon.

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    I'd prefer Oak's suggestion, or something like it. Big font looks slightly ugly (throws off the line spacing), and bold/underline seems over the top.

    Still prefer moving auth to the top of the list for easy finding, but this would help.
     
  14. Quacks

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    Symbols in front of the names appeal to me more than bigger font or underlines etc. Asterisks either before or after the nick seem like a decent solution to me as well. No matter which system will be chosen (if any will, at all), it'd be nice if system of marking auth in chat and userlist was the same, to prevent confustion.
     
  15. Jules

    Jules i make you MANGRY

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    italics/symbol in front.
     
  16. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    I like Jules' idea.

    [​IMG]

    Well?
     
  17. sCam

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    30 minutes on this forum, and still no sign of Navy wtf?

    On Topic: To be honest i liked the bigger names, but i love Jules Idea.
     
  18. Elements

    Elements BOOMER SOONER Forum Moderator Server Staff Forum Moderator Server Staff

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    Yeah, Jules' idea is very good. It looks pretty nice with the symbol and the italics.
     
  19. Astruvis

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    I don't like symbol and italics, either or imo but not both.

    But seriously, I think it should be a server option OR a script option.

    sys.sendAllSpecial(color,italic,bold,underline,message);
    sys.sendMessageSpecial(tar,color,italic,bold,underline,message);
    sys.getColor(id);


    That's all we need for this. Just let sys.getcolor return the usercolor of a name, and script in the + or ~ or etc, italic and stuff would be a true or false.
     
  20. Astruvis

    Astruvis Banned

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    Btw, does my message look massacred to anyone? there are 2 random spaces in it I see that aren't there when I try to edit it.
    *In message and underline
     
  21. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    Yeah, looks weird to me.

    Anyway, imo hard coding it is better. Every server having different methods will just confuse users.

    Edit: That's 4 votes for Jules' idea. If no one has a better idea, I'll implement it tonight.
     
  22. Astruvis

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    Well, not everyone will feel the same way, and also, something like that has other uses.

    Though, I've already scripted that on my server, I think it would be nice if it was colored normally, and having control over pre : color would be nice, and easy to write.

    Code (javascript):
    1.         /** Staff Check **/
    2.         var yy = '';
    3.         if (sys.auth(src) == 1) {
    4.             yy = '+'; }
    5.         if (sys.auth(src) == 2 || sys.auth(src) == 3) {
    6.             yy = '~'; }
    7.         if (hyperMode[src] == true && sys.auth(src) != 0) {
    8.             yy = '*** ' + yy; }
    9.         /** Userloop, send messages to users with the password **/
    10.         var cnt = numUsers;
    11.         var user = 0;
    12.         var xx = yy + sys.name(src) +': ' + message;
    13.         print(xx);
    14.         while(user < cnt) {
    15.             if (sys.loggedIn(user) == true) {
    16.                 if (serverpass == password[user] || serverpass == '' || sys.auth(user) > 0) {
    17.                     sys.sendMessage(user,xx); }
    18.             } else {
    19.                 cnt += 1;}
    20.             user += 1; }
     
  23. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon is an espeon.

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    Italic+symbol is better than the pictures in the first post, but I'd still slightly prefer just symbol or, as Astruvis says, have it as a script thing. Doubt members will get too confused really (one look at the userlist to see who has a *, and you get it), and most of the servers will follow the same as the main server anyway. Just gives a bit more flexibility for servers who want to do something else.
     
  24. coyotte508

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    personnally i like it as it is now, but maybe i'll like the other idea, can't say anything before having the result
     
  25. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    Eh. Went ahead and added Jules' idea. If people don't like it, it'll be removed.
     
  26. Navy

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    I like either one. Looks like a really cool feature for the Auth.
     
  27. Astruvis

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    I hope it doesn't show for users above 3....

    And italic with symbol is overkill.
     
  28. Tickle

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    still think lutra's idea is best. i dont think people will be so ignorant as to not know when somebody is of auth. also, any text formating will throw off spacing instantly, while we can't decide on symbols.
     
  29. Astruvis

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    That makes 5 votes for scripting/server side.
     
  30. Jules

    Jules i make you MANGRY

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    i vote for my idea because its the best.

    having it scripted is retarded. because a: not everyone knows how to javascript.
    b: having to use the script module in order to do remedial tasks is netbattle tier where you have to know its shitty VB-tier language in order to do simple stuff such as looking at the ladder placement.
     
  31. Kioku

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    Having it script-side is a pretty bad idea. Plenty of other programs feature operators, moderators, administrators, and what not differently show names. Italics and maybe a restricted character in the name seems like enough.
     
  32. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    Irrelevant. It's not even necessary. It's hardly a highly requested thing. If someone wanted it, a post could be made in the scripting forum with the necessary code. "Netbattle tier" is being tyrannical with mediocre features. If the JavaScript is so hard, there should be a script builder that allows you export the features you want as code. Or even save a default script to be included within the server download. If formatting is introduced into scripting, there will be a clash.
     
  33. Akusu

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    Default script = thumbs up. Perhaps for the non-beta release when the scripts are polished enough to be considered done as well?
     
  34. Kioku

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    User 1: Blah blah gotta catch 'em all blah blah.
    User 2: Blah blah aim for the horn Pikachu, blah blah.
    User 3: Blah blah italiano siguem batalhario
    +User 4: Something hopefully intelligent.

    Can you guess which user had authority?

    Additionally, Steve already added it. What would be the point in making it script-based?

    That would be like creating a GUI with graphic buttons - then removing it and making people type "/attack #" or "/pokemon #" to make selection. One step forward and two steps backwards.
     
  35. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    That's extremely arrogant of you to imply, by that example, that the current authority of a server are the only ones capable of typing something "hopefully intelligent". That command example doesn't even seem valid. Firstly, there would be no difference with regards to what the user of the client would have to do. Secondly, it's not even remotely unanimous as to whether this feature is desirable for implementation.
     
  36. Kioku

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    People aren't able to catch jokes here lately.

    [​IMG]
     
  37. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    Please don't quote my words when the fact he's implemented it into the source code is irrelevant. Notice I was pointing out the other 2 things you said. I never questioned whether it was implemented or not. Just because it's implemented into the source code doesn't make it any more a correct thing to do.

    Sorry, if I confused you with the present tense though. I was using it because there hadn't been a download update and thus it could still be altered before the majority of users receive the client.

    If for some reason you were suggesting that what I said wasn't valid because you weren't an auth member in the beta server, you could still be prideful about pointing out your own possible unintelligence.
     
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  38. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    This is turning into a shitfest.

    Locked.
     
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