Should Nintendo make a pokemon game with ALL regions in it?

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  1. Daikenki99

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    That would be so awsm but the game card probably wouldn't be able to store the data awww... shucks. oh wells! it would be awsm! =D
     
  2. Tailes

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    I've always thought it would just be better if they made a massive NEW region instead, I don't see much point in revisiting old regions, just make the new ones bigger.
     
  3. Gerard

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    Considering the fact that you could get Moxie Salamance with Outage, and stuf like that (since all MTs would be available) then it would create an awesome amount of new combos and fresh strategies, very interesting stuff, still kind of hard to do
     
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    Putting aside the technical difficulties of making a game of that size, as a final send off for the main series of Pokemon games (whenever that may be) a game with all the regions included would be amazing. And imagine if you got to select which region you started in and got to pick the order in which you traveled around the different regions. And each region would be the full region, not a shortened version like Kanto was in gen 2 and 4. Each region would include all the events and whatnot that the regions would have if it was the only region in the game (and like in the remakes of Kanto and Johto, the regions wouldn't be exactly the same as they were in the original.) And because by the end of the second region all your Pokemon would have long since grown to level 100, you would be able to decide after completing each region whether you want to take your team with you or if you want to leave your team with the professor of your "home region" and start a brand new team in the next region. Then once you reach the Elite 4 you'd be able to get your Pokemon from the previous region back and use them to challenge the Elite 4 if you want, giving you up to 12 competitive Pokemon to pick from to use to beat the second Elite 4. But then that leads a whole new level of complexity to such a game as there would have to be at least 2 versions, probably 3, of each trainer in each region so their levels would be adjusted according to whether you take a previously used team with you or not, possibly pretty unrealistic especially for a game for a handheld console like the DS. Anyway I think something like that, putting aside whether it's actually possible, would be an amazing final game for Pokemon and a way to really go out in a bang.
     
  5. S!lver

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    The games would just be sooooo biiiig... We have like 4 regions. 4 x 8 = 32 freaking Gyms >.>
    -It's just too many IMO :3, but making two regions together is alright I guess. (HG/SS)
     
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    Thinking about it, there'd be a huge problem with the storyline if all 4 regions were added together.

    GSC was set 3 years after RBY. To include both of these, you'd need to change the storyline somehow.

    I've thought of something.

    You go through Kanto first. You do the original storyline. Then, you get shipped over to Sinnoh and do the 4th Generation storyline (specifically, Platinum). Then, you go to Hoenn and do the Advance storyline (specifically, Emerald). Then, you go to Johto. Your time in Sinnoh and Hoenn is implied to be 3 years. Therefore, the Johto storyline can be run normally.

    I think you could include Unova after Hoenn or after Johto. Spoilers below if you haven't played Black and White, so don't open the secret tab.
    In N's Castle, a Team Plasma grunt mentions that the other 4 teams (Rocket, Aqua, Magma, Galactic) were too obvious, and that's why their plans were foiled. He could not have made this reference if you haven't already beaten those 4 teams.
    So, that in the secret tab means that Unova must be placed after Kanto, Hoenn and Sinnoh. This could mean that you went over to Unova and did everything there, and this helped to pass the 3 years between RBY and GSC, or it was done following Johto. Think about it - you could receive the news of Cinnabar's volcano erupting whilst in Hoenn, Sinnoh or Unova.

    If this has already been thought of above, ignore my post. But if not, this would probably have to be how they do it.
     
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  7. yiran

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    Just a note to add onto Oak's post - Sinnoh takes place 3 years after Hoenn.
    See this.

    EDIT: Also, Black/White is 10 years after Johto/Sinnoh...
     
  8. For The Troll

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    I would like with all pokes on only one pokemon,but as commence w/o the freaking pokedéx,and i mean ALL pokemon,such as togepi to zekrom,but the legendaryes would be each on one local,and some kinda of 1evo pokes on commence,as starter it would be cool if i would just can choose any starter of all the generations,because it would be more funny to finish and finish the game,and also it would be more easily to get all pokemons,so i like the idea of all the pokemons on one pokemon game,but the story is of the generation,not of all gens.
     
  9. Magnificent Faiyaz.

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    Even though such a game would be really really really controversial and risky it would be interesting if they had a storyline connecting all the regions legendary pokemon, for example how arceus (or mew) created the universe and their connection with groudon/kyogre/lugia/ho-oh/kyurem/zekrom etc etc.
     
  10. Mindblown

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    I'd rather just have a 3-D Pokemon MMO, or a Pokemon Stadium 3.
     
  11. twofivefive

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    Aha! Groshi has got the right idea through that link. Instead of making a game with all the Pokemon regions, there should be a game where the Pokemon storyline ends, with all loose ends tied up, hopefully with an ultimate showdown. Brendan/May (from RSE), Michael (from XD), Red (From RBY), ect. all unite and defeat Team Ultima (like Pangea Ultima, a theorized end of the world, where all the continents recollide), and the impact of this epic battle (all legendaries appear) collides all the regions into one massive landmass! THAT WOULD BE FREAKING EPIC!!! You would be able to play as any of the above mentioned characters through a "flashback" of their history (and play as other characters while they tell you their stories), giving over 100 hours of storyline! No need for a game that lets you travel through ALL regions, just smash all the regions together! The perfect apocalypse game.

    Submitting idea to Nintendo... please wait. (JK)
     
  12. Taiwan

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    I think they should just for giggles and laughs, but I don't think you could really store all that information into those small cartilages. Plus, this would only be raising the bar for all future Pokemon games and I don't think Game Freak can handle making every game in the future on par with a game with every region. It will also be a bad marketing move since having all the different pokemon spread apart throughout different regions with the goal of "catching them all" was the reason why every version, good or bad were sought after.
     
  13. User Name

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    @Taiwan
    It's nice how we're all concerned for Gamefreak, but I'm fairly sure this is a thread about our entertainment, not about their money. XD
     
  14. Tyler4Ever

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    All regions would be great

    Think about how Ash does it ,he takes only pikachu to the next region and uses the old one only in the league ,and in Battle frontier level 50 setting pokemon are leveled down so you take the one you choose and it will be levelled down in every regions beginning ,and at the end of all regions you can frreely move about anywhere ,maybe even the pokemon ranger regions almia and fiero can be included.Hows the idea sound:D:D
     
  15. aron101

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    Well to tell you the truth, I support it but I don't think it will work because of the amount of work people will have to put into finishing the game. You could be there for months trying to finish and be going on an endless journey that has no point because once you finish it, you'll feel like you've accomplished nothing. But there are good things to it too. There would be more people buying the game trying to finish it and it would raise the companies gross market share allowing them to invest in new technology, so I guess this could work...
     
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    Regarding what you guys have mentioned about time passing between 'each generation', I'd like to add that a game in which the four regions are present can just be a game set after the events of BW. Each region might have either a new threat, or old threats coming back to haunt them. I'd be nice because you would see how each region has changed over the years, just like how in HGSS you get to see slight changes in Kanto, etc.
     
  17. meowykid

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    This would, actually be possible in the 3ds most likely, it has 2gb and 4gb catridges.

    Kojima Productions’ creative producer Yoshikazu Matsuhana told attendees at E3:

    “We incorporated so many 3DS-exclusive features into this game, but the only problem we ran in to was the size of the 3DS cartridge itself. We spoke to Nintendo about this issue and they let us use, for the first time ever, an exclusive 4GB cartridge for the game.”
     
  18. Ozma

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    I think an epic multi region game would be great. You'd feel like it really was an epic adventure. By the end of it your Pokes would likely be level 80-90 and against a league of similar level opponents. I wouldn't feel like I've finished nothing, but something. I'd feel like I really conquered the world of Pokemon. Not sure why so many are saying that it would be tedious either. Not like they aren't already...

    Regardless, a multi region game loaded with multiple antagonists/enemy teams would be a fine addition and a true Pokemon game.
     
  19. Remillo

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    I've always been in support of this sort of game. As long as they can find a reliable way to balance out the levels between regions (Raising Level Limits, scaling the next region, etc.), it could be ridiculously fun. Or if it could be like what Ash did: Practically start over in each region, but gradually getting the rest of your pokemon back. Like, let's say you had a level 70 Charizard when you finished up Kanto. In your Johto adventure, you can have your Charizard transferred over once you get the Storm Badge (Which Allows obedience from level 70- pokemon). Though this could make the ending of the adventure ridiculously easy, it could balance out at least the start of the adventure.
     
  20. Danichiban

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    Well maybe release 3 games when the inevitable 6th gen comes out with 2 regions each and/or have your trainer id and history transferred with a code given.
     
  21. Fate/Dracoflare

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    Lot's of fan games are being made with the same idea of having all 5 regions.It is possible to include all 5 regions using RMXP stuff.Don't expect nintendo doing this.(read callous's post)
     
  22. Kinfinity

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    Playing all the regions in on one game would be great but I would probably play it once, finish it and never starting a new game
     
  23. Im_The_Devil

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    For Nintendo to release games in Gens is a marketing strategy. Perhaps eventually they well make a game with all gens. We never know.
     
  24. Twisted Cosmos

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    I prefer having an MEGA Online Pokemon game with all the regions in it rather than having it as a normal game for the DS or the Wii.
    Then Nintendo can extend the levels up to 500 if they want, since the anime doesnt focus on levels.
    But then again, thats a lot of money for them.... (and us :3)
     
  25. Kat-

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    If they did then it would have to be the Pokemon MMO that will pretty much never happen.
     
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    If Nintendo actually had the effort, I would love to see this play out, just for confusion purposes. Btw, the maker of the thread was banned....xD
     
  27. Recker

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    *has not read anything before this post*

    One look at the title and I'm already thinking this is terrificly stupid. Business wise, this would comepletely devestate game sales for previous generations so that everyone would be completely encouraged to buy the one game that has all games in itself. Production would have to be possibly 10 years at best to recreate previous generations up to standard date, and most likely compatible with the 3Ds. Which brings me to the next point.

    Do you even know anything about the previous generation or are you just a newfag? Generation 1 was about team Rocket Domination and how Red the main character had beaten them. Generation 2 also involved Team Rocket as the main "villains" of the story. Generation 3 as in Emerald and such, introduced 2 new villainous teams, Aqua and Magma. Generation 4 brought us team Galactic, wanting to control the Universe through space in time respectively through Palkia and Dialgia, and with Platinum coming along the "alternate dimension" of Pokemon. Now here is where the Remakes of the first two generations; BUT with incredibly different changes. fireRed and LeafGreen both had added the Sevii Islands and the Post E4 story. Basically a new region in itself. So far including6 regions including the alternate dimension. When HeartGold and it's counterpart were released, it's evident that many things had changed. Ex the PokeAthlon Dome was added near National Park. But there is also a special event which may or may not lead you to Sinnoh, in which you present an Arceus to Cynthia and she let's you choose a Gen 4 trio legendary.

    Well now you think Im stupid becUse I've been ranting about the generations. Well no. The conflicts of time between generation 1 & 2 are very hard to slush together. If tha doesn't make sense, then think about it, assuming as well Im including firered and heartgold. There was no magnet train originally in generation 1 from Goldenrod to vermillion I believe was it. This creates a conflict of course. Yes they may choose to keep as is the generation 2 map designs but that brings up other ideas. If travel from kanto to johto is possible, why would hoenn to sinnoh not be possible. This then makes the designers have to think of a way for players to travel from region to region, thus tainting it's originality.

    The storyline would be just god awful. Having one player travel region to region is unexplainable. He'd have to have to fight off 3 teams at least and the fact that one boy is already stopping evil from overcoming the world is already bad enough.

    Please note that I did not include anythig about gen 5 because I know none of it.
     
  28. User Name

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    I'm assuming the remakes are the ones fused, though, since they do have moar shtuff. :P
     
  29. Fate/Dracoflare

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    @post above username's post: Well,gen1 and gen2 don't have conflicting time lines,gsc story line is exactly 3 years after rby,it was mentioned in the game.HGSS/FRLG are mere remakes of these games and the time line followed here is just the same as that of the original games,except in a alternate world, which has more stuff like the mentioned sevii islands etc.

    Also the point that the story line will be awful if all regions are included is half true.You can actually try a good story line.Game starts-hero proceeds through rby story line,goes to johto fight the new and powerful gym leaders of johto..after getting 16 badges from 16 types of gymleaders, access to e4 after some training in silver mountains,then pass on to hoenn and challenge the battle frontier which unlike the original game's bf will be different and completely different from normal gym battles.(Add some team magma vs aqua here).This however is the limit,a 4 th region will really be awful...well if anyone can come up with a better story line,it will be kewl.
     
  30. unknown

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    yes it will be a good idea but i will all help you out the dream.

    i have enough experience with mapping and programming that i know it will be impossible to make a game with all regions in it. at first an engine that is able to run an pokemon game cant handle too much.look at hg/ss and black and white the games are on the limit of what the engine can handle.
    a game with all regions will be too big for a pokemon engine. and making another engine would be impossible as the ds cant handle a bigger engine than the engines we have now.the engines we have now can handle up to 65 mb.and only 1 pokemon game will be 64 mb. so then we need an engine that is able to handle with 320 mb. for a pokemon game that is impossible and it will be too complex for an ds to handle with. even with the pc psp wii ps3 ps2 etc. it will be impossible because the engine of a pokemon game will be too complex and it will be all bugged. i will subscribe a few bugs:
    the game will be no higher than 1.5 f/ps thats about 7-8 times so slow as an normal game. al automarised services like boats trains etc will not work correctly.only about 1-12 saves will be succesfull
    and only 1-8 loads will be succes full.a trainer card with badges can not be present because there will be 40 badges.and the last known bug the loading of interiors will fail 1-4 times.we know this because we made some tests and made a whole project. and with this i will say there will be NO pokemon game with all regions
     
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    We all know Nintendo won't make it, there are too many reasons why not. :P

    The question is, will it be fun to play?
     
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    @Unknow ever heard of rpgmakerxp? You can include as many regions as you can,it's just too tedious to make.
     
  33. The Cheese

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    They could make a game and force u to start with a pikachu that never evolves and as you go throughthe game you catch pokemon in whatever region ur in and train them (oh and your pikachu magically gets a light ball cuz it doesnt like evolving). After you finished the region your not allowed to take anything but your pikachu whose level gets nerfed somehow. when you fight the elite four in each region, your allowed to access all your pokemon though but the battle format will be lvl 50 all. that way the game wont be to easy i guess o_O
     
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    yes

    it should be like this (in my opnion):
    you should be able to choose a starter region, and from that choise you could get 5 different story lines, story line 1 for kanto etc. then you should play untill you beat the elite 4 and the champion, then it would be your choise which region is next, from that you will get a different story line like before, you will get to take your starter pokemon and leave the rest at the proffesor, but for gym matches and the elite 4 you could let them fly in, but only for that, this will go on for the 5 regions and then you will be able to use all your pokemon at any time.
     
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    Of course: Infinite Gameplay and exploration. That's what we old school players need.
     
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    My suggestion (or fanfic I guess) would probably be this:
    It would take place a few years after the latest game, and since all of the other evil groups were resolved by other trainers, this "evil group" will actually consist of multiple gym leaders throughout all of the regions I guess revolting or what-not, so you would have to explore each of the 6 regions, grabbing 2 badges per region due to the lack of legit gym leaders, thus needing 12 badges for the Elite 4. The Elite 4 and Champion would consist of the controllable players from the past games (since they WERE champions and all...), showing increased age due to the time difference (Red, Gold, etc.) The amount of experience gained from battling pokemon will be significantly reduced so you aren't exploring the last few regions with all level 100 pokemon.
    The large game would obviously be too big for both the DS and 3DS cartridges, so it would probably be for the Wii or Wii U with the familiar top-view perspective and will hopefully just contain single battles unlike the gamecube games.

    TL;DR version: Have only one villainous group, reduce total badges, reduce exp. gain, make past generation players the current elite 4 and champion, and release for console.
     
  38. PurpleNinja

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    I have another issue that I haven't seen pointed out yet: The timeline. Kanto and Hoenn occur at the same time, Johto and Sinnoh happen together, but Unova is a little after Johto. Meaning unless Gamefreak plans on having multiple save slots, then I don't see it working out.
     
  39. gravendoom75

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    why don't they make it a console game so that way it will have enough space. it would really be fun going to different regions with different Pokemon. i liked the 3 console games that they made. at the end of the game they could have like the ultimate elite four or something where you fight every champion or even better every trainer from the games like red and all the other characters from the games
     
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    I think this would be really cool, as I did with HG/SS.

    As mentioned above, this game should be a last outcry from Gamefreak, saying "Here, this is the last Pokemon games, it has older regions for the old players, while not being boring for the new ones, we included the newer ones". Also said above, that, it would follow 2 timelines *Keep in mind, this game has two game modes: 1 follows a timeline that is YEARS after the latest Gen. and the other would force you to follow the actual timeline that the generations happened.* As for the problem that you would only play it once, that's why they have multiple save slots. *Say 3-5? that way you can start with a wide variety of the starters etc.*

    As for the Overleveling stuff, I always hoped that you would be forced to start over with new Pokemon, I mean, It is a new Generation, right? Keeping the old Pokemon in the old Region. *I always found that the beginning of the game, although tedious, the most fun* After collecting all the badges, and defeating each regions E4, you to to a.....either Brand new region, or a "Battle Island" sort of place, that has trainers/4-5 "Gym" sort of things, and a Final E4 *Which could include Red,Gold, etc, or Just E4 with Lv.100's*, this Island also includes the Battle Frontier *Which brings back each facility* and allows you to access all of your Pokemon. After completing that, you have full access to each Gen *As you are limited to the region you are in, not being able to travel..*, and this also allows you all your Pokemon.

    There, Impossible? For now, Yes. But the future always brings us bigger and better things, so we can all hope, right?...right?