[BW2] Cool Stuff to use in LU

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  1. KnightOwlAshley

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    Hidden Power grass is better on Simipour so it can hit Lanturn
     
  2. Roy Mustang

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    >I gave her an importable of my dw lu sand team
     
  3. AcePro

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    Kobra (Arbok) (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Coil
    - Venoshock
    - Gunk Shot
    - Earthquake


    Coil: Coil Increases Atk, Def, and Acc, so that makes Gunk shot easily useable and boosts anything else and my def incredibly.

    Venoshock Venoshock is for when my Coil isn't boosted high enuf so i just use veno to add an extra attack boost.

    Gunk Shockis incredible when using Coil since it has 70 accuracy. Plus the power boost means epic power.

    Earthquake is for those retarded steel types that like to switch in when im spreading the poison.


    this is my first thing on this thing so yea....
     
  4. Stofil

    Stofil Hello Miss Galaxy

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    Venoshock is special, you're not getting much mileage out of that, replace it with either sucker punch or rest.
     
  5. fidgety

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    ok this actually a really fun combo to use np zoro + ghost:
    Zoroaaku (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Illusion
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Nasty Plot
    - Night Burst
    - Flamethrower/taunt
    - Focus Blast/taunt


    rotom is an especially good partner if you have zoro right in front of the ghost on your team before sending it out in a situation where either is plausable they will likely respond to rotom or whatever ghost you use and have the unpleasant surprise of a +2 zoroark doing serious damage.
     
  6. User Name

    User Name Life is a maze

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    @AcePro
    I tried RestShed Skin Arbok in UU, where it didn't work so well. :P
    Perhaps it'll do better in LU. I'll have to try it.
     
  7. Stofil

    Stofil Hello Miss Galaxy

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    There's a lot of psychic-type Pokémon down in LU, I don't think Arbok will ever be able to get past Cresselia.
     
  8. User Name

    User Name Life is a maze

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    Max Special bulk Arbok, which I intend to run, takes 75.9% max from full Sp. Atk investment Cresselia.
    I'm also running Dragon Tail, so Calm Mind is not an option.
    SubCalm Mind may be problematic, though.
     
  9. fidgety

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    cress will more than likely be banned so i wouldn't pay it too much mind.

    also wow my last post was ignored in it's entirety.
     
  10. Aurist

    Aurist I do not jump for joy. I frolic in doubt.

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    personally i'd go for:

    Arbok @ Leftovers
    Trait: Shed Skin
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Coil
    - Rest
    - Gunk Shot
    - Earthquake

    it's like a crappier, poison-type Scrafty, or something. honestly i've tried running this set though and it's looking like it won't be viable til NU.
     
  11. Blue Harvest

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    Sitrus Berry Gluttony Belly Drum Linoone. If it sets up and they don't have a faster ghost or steel its pretty much GG. Its pretty bulky too with defensive EVs and Sitrus berry. Even if it can't sweep its a great revenge killer because NO ONE wants to give Linoone a free turn so they always stay in to attack (and get KOed by ES).

    Theres also Claw Sharpen LO Aerodactyl. If it gets a free turn you might as well give up because its going to kill everything.
     
  12. AcePro

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    Lol i figured that that set was better because of

    so i used rest and mixed with baton Ninjask Arbok is a great pokemon. But speed is required since i
    need some speed to outrun pokemon if i dont use ninjask. And 252spd attack RestShed has proven to be awesome. Especialy because of my team.

    and yes it was ignored fidgety
     
  13. White Chaos

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    Currently I'm using an effective double that helps me win alot of matches. I am new to this tier so I don't know alot stuff or threats so I've been using this. I'm looking forward to this pair and looking forward to this tier!

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    IntoTheAbyss (Gorebyss) (F) @ White Herb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Shell Smash
    - Boil Over
    - Ice Beam
    - Baton Pass

    Gorebyss is of course a Baton Passer.As obvious as this Gorebyss is, no one expects it. This allows me a (semi) free Shell Break. With the White Herb, it eliminates the Defense and Sp.Def drops that her partner needs.

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    Colbat (Kobaruon) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Justice Heart
    EVs: 244 HP / 144 Atk / 120 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Substitute
    - Close Combat
    - Stone Edge
    - Iron Head

    Colbian is an excellent Pokemon in LU, it has a awesome 128 Base Def. and 108 Speed. This is a Substitute + 3 Attack set and works excellent. Stone Edge is for Coverage and the mass amount of Flying Types. The other two are for STAB. The only Pokemon that is a 100% Coutner to this Pokemon is SubChargeBeam Rotom-W, but using this with Gorebyss, it takes out his Counter quite nicely.
     
  14. Stofil

    Stofil Hello Miss Galaxy

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    Hydro Pump or Surf is probably a lot better on baton pass gorebyss, plenty of things can take the +2 scald but will be hard pressed to survive a hydro pump from that special attack. Also from my experience Cobalion really needs either a life orb or swords dance to be able to actually take on anything, base 90 attack is not breaking a physical walls(or Nidoqueen) any time soon.

    EDIT: Forgot you could baton pass to Coba to begin with, life orb is probably still needed though.
     
  15. White Chaos

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    Right now, Cobalion is working just fine with Leftovers, mainly because I love to abuse Substitute. I havn't fought any walls like Cress or Dusk yet so maybe thats why I'm recking through everything. If Cobalion starts to fail me then I'll consider LO, I just don't like using LO on a Bulky Sweeper :/
     
  16. Float

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    Seaking (F) @ Petaya Berry
    Trait: Lightningrod
    EVs: 40 HP / 252 SAtk / 216 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Substitute
    - Agility

    I HAVE LEGIT SWEPT TEAMS WITH THIS MONSTER.
     
  17. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    A random Bulky water pokemon walls it. For example, Frillish. For more examples, Slowking. For more examples, Lanturn. Enough?
     
  18. Blue Harvest

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    It was you. YOU were the monster I fought with that nightmare Colbat. It took down three of my Pokemon on its own. But you let it fall to my water monkey (happoi? or something) and I was able to turn the game around last minute with Linoone. Unless it was someone else. It was the closest and most difficult LU match I've had yet.

    Sub +3 attack Colbat is lethal. You never Baton Passed to it, but its was still a monster. I wonder if Thunder Wave could go over one of those moves?




    Anyway, cool stuff to try:

    Dugtrio @ Life Orb
    Jolly
    obvious EVs

    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Sucker Punch
    Memento

    Play with team preview on. Dugtrio plays like an assassin early game as you would expect, but once all his primary targets have been eliminated Dugtrio can use Memento to allow free setup, or get your team out of a bind. Best of all Arena Trap prevents switching, so your hapless Memento target isn't going anywhere. Setup that Omastar or Celebi and laugh!
     
  19. Float

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    Swept with it late game aaaaaaaaa
     
  20. White Chaos

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    I was the one who fought you, that Linoone made me so angry, it made me wanna head-desk. Though my Dynamic duo is falling, because everyone knows about it. Mainly because I fight the same people over and over again so they know my strategy. Though in the beginning stages of my LU journey, no one expected the duo, which allowed my sweeps.

    I tryed that Dugtrio a while ago, it's a monster O.O
     
  21. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    Well generally if you let your wall die early game that means you're not very good or you team synergy is bad.
     
  22. KnightOwlAshley

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    Or because he haxed me and swept with it against me D;
     
  23. destinybond

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    That set looks pretty awesome. I played with something like that around the start of Gen 5(except it had shandera and evo stone lampent also)
     
  24. User Name

    User Name Life is a maze

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    @Groshi
    I think you're overestimating the general skill of Pokemon players. ;D
    Sure, most people are decent, but oftentimes decent is just not enough.
     
  25. abhicherath

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    well guys. LU is so fun. i myself have been WRECKING FACE with this rhyperior
    Rhyperior (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Solid Rock
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Rock Polish
    - Stone Edge
    - Megahorn
    - Earthquake

    this spells BROKEN to me, it 2HKOes the world and just.....facerapes

    Rhyperior (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Solid Rock
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Superpower
    - Stone Edge
    - Megahorn
    - Earthquake


    THIS.....it OHKOes the UNIVERSE AND is fuking bulky(in sandstorm its invincible,literally sad hippo went.)

    Rhyperior (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Solid Rock
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Stone Edge
    - Megahorn
    - Earthquake

    this one too. after one SD nothing takes a hit.literally.
     
  26. Stofil

    Stofil Hello Miss Galaxy

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    You have to tell me this magic trick of using Rhyperior in LU when he's UU, I'll take notes. EDIT: Seriously no attempt at mini-modding here but, what tier do you ACTUALLY play? Your posts seem so disconnected from the tier.
     
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  27. abhicherath

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    lol stofil it was DW LU. but now DW LU's magically vanished and i can't use him....sad. but it was kinda broken.again it was LU in DW.bleh.
    and that was kinda mean.
     
  28. flashbolt

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    Ironically. Rhyperior is now Wifi LU.
     
  29. The Real Elmo

    The Real Elmo Caterpie hungers...

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    well abhicherath, Rhyperior just fell down into Wifi LU, so you can still use him as a wreaking ball there ^_^
    EDIT: Ninja'd

    Really, I'm most worried about Sub-perior, especially as a BP recipient.
    Rhyperior (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Solid Rock
    EVs: 132 HP / 252 Atk / 24 Def / 100 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Substitute
    - Megahorn

    He can come in on a ton of mon's, sub up, and proceed to rape while sitting safely behind his sub. I'll have to run some calcs, but he should be able to leave some very nice holes in Wifi LU's defensive walls.
     
  30. Grasseh

    Grasseh I swear I'm not mafia!

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    Those are definitely my favourite two.

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    Cradily (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Suction Cups
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Curse
    - Sleep Talk
    - Rock Slide
    - Rest

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    Lileep (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Suction Cups
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Curse
    - Rock Slide
    - Sleep Talk
    - Rest

    Such good special walls and when cursed up, can sweep almost everything. Cradily has leftovers recovery and a better Attack but Lileep gets higher defences with the Eviolite. I'm gonna add images soon
     
  31. Chewster

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    I love to use this thing because its spongy and people usually get annoyed by it:

    Vileplume (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Chlorophyll
    EVs: 164 HP / 132 Def / 212 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Sleep Powder
    - Substitute
    - Leech Seed
    - Sludge Bomb


    This is basically a LU version of Venusaur, the only problem usually are Steels which aren't many around in LU else than Coba and Magnezone usually you just set them to sleep. If this in not a metagame changer poke lol atleast its fun to use and takes a shift from everyone else's post going from offense to a stallish set

    Hehe that is it :3
     
  32. pokemonnerd

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    Might as well give something I love using, and I have probably caused other people to start using it as well:


    Misdreavus (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 236 HP / 176 Def / 96 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Trick / Taunt
    - Heal Bell / Pain Split
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Shadow Ball

    It suffers from massive 4 move slot syndrome, but WoW and Shadow Ball are necessities. Trick can get your eviolite back or potentially steal it from another pokemon, while Taunt stops stall and slow boosters. Pain Split is obviously to increase longevity, but if you have wish support you can go for Heal Bell. All around a very nice mixed wall, being able to shrug off even super effective hits.
     
  33. Stofil

    Stofil Hello Miss Galaxy

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    More people really should use Medicham, it whittles down the opposition and breaks walls like no other. Be careful with your hi jump kicks though.

    Medicham @ Life Orb
    Trait: Pure Power
    EVs: 252 Atk/ 4 Def/252 Speed
    Adamant/Jolly Nature
    - Hi Jump Kick/ Brick Break
    - Zen Headbutt
    - Fake Out
    - Bullet Punch/ Ice Punch/ Thunder Punch

    Some slashes here and there depending on what the rest of your team doles out, with the proper prediction near nothing is safe from your onslaught. Pure Power boosted HJK is probably the mightiest hit to take in the tier, doing a number even on things that resist it while still retaining a viable 90% accuracy. Fake out lets you work as a makeshift lead capable of stopping some of the slower hazard users or lettings things like scolipede only get up one layer, bullet punch gives you a second chance but is probably not as useful overall thanks to being a steel-type move and having lesser priority.

    For reference I believe HJK does upwards of 50% damage to Tangela, who is one of the bulkiest things in the tier right now.
     
  34. CrashinBoomBang

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    I'd recommend everyone who hasn't done so yet to use an all choiced team in LU. It's a lot of fun, stall can't really wall it, and it's surprisingly effective in general.
     
  35. Luck>Skill

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    CB Medicham hits like a truck

    Medicham (F) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Pure Power
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Hi Jump Kick
    - Zen Headbutt
    - Bullet Punch
    - ThunderPunch

    Good luck walling him...Slowking takes like 70% from HJK, and it's a resist...everything that's not a ghost gets obliterated fairly easily by it.
     
  36. Gerard

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    Altaria is such an efficent bitch, she's awesome in this tier

    Altaria (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 Hp / 252 SpD / 4 Def
    Nature (+SpD, -SAtk)
    - Cotton Guard
    - Dragon Dance
    - Dragon Claw
    - Roost

    She can take hit after hit, with just two turns you're unkillable with physical attacks, then DD to be fasyer than your foe and roost the damage, if you're paralized or burned or intoxicated just swich, just make sure you killed quarsire and you're readdy to sweep, cobalion's iron head at +6 is a 3Hko, many other attacks don't reach that far, even if you actually bypass her defense she can take a crit (and roost because she would be faster, a neutral crit +2 attack form swasbuck is a 67% damage, tat tells you how good she is, and whit the lack of steels she can reign
     
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    I'm back, with some sets for a mon that just dropped down here, Charizard.

    Brokenzard
    [secret]Charizard (F) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Blaze
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)/ Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Air Slash
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Focus Blast

    Good ol' Brokenzard, he's back from gen 4 NU, and he is here to kick some asses. Fire Blast is the obvious STAB, and after Blaze things will have problems surviving it, even bulky waters. Air slash is a secondary STAB and it's reliable, giving a good 30% flinch rate, while HP grass is for dem Water types, that wants to wall you. Focus Blast is there because...dunno, you can replace it with Flamethrower for cleanup.[/secret]

    LO + Roost
    [secret]Charizard (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Blaze
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Air Slash
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Roost

    He's not Brokenzard but meh, it can work. This set is more versatile than the Broken one. Roost is to heal from LO recoil and to the possible 50% you lose when you switch into Stealth Rock. Good set, good coverage and nice damage output, but again, he's not brokenzard, so why bother using it? :X[/secret]

    Sunny Day Zard
    [secret]Charizard (F) @ Heat Rock/Life Orb
    Trait: Solar Power
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Air Slash
    - SolarBeam
    - Sunny Day

    Ok seriously, solar power in the sun basically gives a Choice Specs boost at the cost of 13% of your HPs every turn. Charizard has the speed to pull it off. Now think, you sunny day while they send their water thing, then you fire off a SolarBeam that's SE (240 power) from dat HUGE special attack stat. Modest for even more trolling, but you lose a good amount of speed that may be needed when facing opposing fast paced teams. Sunny Day for the boost. Heat Rock if you are using this in a themed sunny day team, otherwise Life Orb (he won't last for more than 3-4 turns anyway, in a best case scenario) to increase even more the damage output. I never tried it to be honest, but it seems pwnage, even though it's not Brokenzard. Oh, and it's not Brokenzard, did I mention it already? D:[/secret]
     
  38. pokemonnerd

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    I've fought Sunny Day Zard, and its problem is that it dies really, really fast due to LO+Solar Power. Combine that with the fact that you're still not OHKOing things without perfect prediction, and it's really just another glass cannon. It can definitely dent a team, But at most it's only taking down 1 pokemon when against a skilled player. Brokenzard's still as good as ever though, not to mention you have enough team support to actually use Roost+LO in LU.
     
  39. Stofil

    Stofil Hello Miss Galaxy

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    Devo tried this against me, that base 70 attack just doesn't work unless you bring this out late-game, set-up is far too easy.
     
  40. fidgety

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    brokenzard=/=broken just sayin.

    am i seriously going to be the first one to bring up bossperior here is a little number i've been testing:

    Leafeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Leaf Guard
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Baton Pass
    - Leaf Blade
    - Wish

    Rhyperior (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Solid Rock
    EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Rock Polish
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Megahorn

    i think everyone can see the point of this quagsire gligar and tangela (maybe a couple others) are the only ones stopping this and i don't see quag switching into leafeon and is 2hkod by a max adamant eq, this is such a dangerous combo if i get the +2 to bossperior v something that needs to switch mid game i'm going to sweep a good portion of the remaining team.

    Edit: tangela has about a 40% chance to be 1hko'd with rocks by megahorn, and gligar faces a clean 2hko by edge.