Megauser's abilities

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  1. Harry

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    Far be it from me to want to up the position that I currently claim, of Megauser, but I would appreciate it if we, as Megausers, could view battles with No Spectators clause activated, or, more specifically, in tournaments, if the other power is too much. I suggest this because the other night I had a tournament running, and someone complained that their opponent was timestalling, with no specs on, and there was no time runout clause enabled. This put me in an awkward position, because when I asked the opponent denied it.. and I couldn't go into the battle myself to go see, and so I had to call for a someone else to go check. I feel like as users specifically designed to run tournaments, we should have power enough to run tournaments on our own. So if not able to bypass No Spectator clause, then the ability to see all battles in tournaments, regardless of No Spectator clause, would be greatly appreciated. I promise we will not abuse it if we are in the tournament, or for that matter, doing so would risk loss of our Megauser spot.
     
  2. Erebos

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    This is not the first time this has come up. I think coyotte had said that it's not that he doesn't want to do it, but rather can't do it. I'm not too sure if this is still how it is, but Megausers used to be scripted instead of coded, and that had some effect upon this. Anyway, coyotte or Crystal should be able to tell you about it now.
     
  3. Harry

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    Man, everything I suggest is either
    1. Retarded
    2. Already been done
    3. In the wrong area
    4. Causes at least 2 people to hate me

    (#4 is incentive tours)
     
  4. Blastcore

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    Why? Aren't you happy with Moderator, Administrator & Server Administrator?

    It's possible to do, but it's useless. It could be done by scripting.
     
  5. Harry

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    I just think it's prudent due to us being the tournament runners, that we should be able to handle anything that could happen in a tour, that's all!
     
  6. evilblob

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    I'm agreeing with Harry. The Megausers should be able to do their one and only (I think) job, to run a tournament. They shouldn't need the help of other people to do this. Help should be there if they want it (which it is) but it shouldn't be necessary.
     
  7. Blastcore

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    If a server doesn't have Tournament Scripts? Megausers would be useless.
     
  8. Harry

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    I'm not saying it's a common occurrence or anything by any means. Just something I noticed :)
     
  9. Wander

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    Actualy, without Tournaments, Megausers wouldn't exist
    That post had a minor offensive use of "useless" in it :x
     
  10. Galblade

    Galblade FAT PRINCESS

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    I did mention this back when I was MU, Erebos explained the reply I received too. There was even a little testing done with the auth and I think coyo did say it wasn't possible or something.
     
  11. Crystal Moogle

    Crystal Moogle Ayaya~ Administrator Administrator

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    Latios is looking at this wrong. Megausers don't have to be coded, a way to bypass the No Specs clause could be coded. Maybe like the sys.startBattle that was suggested by ete, maybe a sys.watchBattle that a megauser can use to bypass the no specs. Obviously they could only use it for battles that are in the tour (But all this would be scripted not coded). This way it doesn't mean every server has to have a tour script or use megausers, and is just an extra function they wouldn't use like a few of them that exist now :3
     
  12. Wander

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    So what you're saying is that it IS possible?
     
  13. Crystal Moogle

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    I dunno, I don't code for PO.
     
  14. Harry

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    Coyo said something right before he left last night about it having to do with megausers, while having some kind of power, are still auth = 0. So yeah, it's whatever tho it's really not a big deal. I also don't get why Vicutini got in on this :3
     
  15. Groudon Ramsay

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    We could just make it so that MUs are Auth 1, but with the same powers (+ watch battle, of course). This, of course would mean every Auth on top of them would get bumped one level, but their powers would remain the same so its not like they would actually get bumped. Not quite sure if I'm making sense.
     
  16. Harry

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    I get what you mean Koko. My suggestion was Megausers for .5 auth xD
     
  17. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon is an espeon.

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    Auth 1 has kick powers inbuilt, I think?
     
  18. Professor Oak

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    I think what koko is trying to say is make MUs a new auth level, at auth level 1. Then mods would be auth level 2, admins auth level 3, and owners auth level 4.

    However, this wouldn't work (talking to koko now). Because, as has been mentioned several times, MEGAUSERS ARE SCRIPT BASED. They would not exist if the script did not make them exist. They'd simply be other users. Implementing megausers into the PO code would be useless also with the tournaments also being script based. Now, unless coyo wants to add tournaments to every server by adding it to the PO code itself, this is impossible to do.

    I did have a thought last night, however, but I was too tired to post it. Could there be an addition to the script that checks who is a megauser when a person watches a battle (but only when a tournament is underway), and then checks to see if it is a tournament battle they are trying to watch? If it is a megauser and it is a tournament battle, could they be increased to auth level 1 (mod) before watching the battle, then let them into the battle, then deauth them immediately afterward (back to auth level 0 - user)?
    I'm not sure if this would be possible, hence why I'm asking. If it is, it might be a decent solution (so long as it doesn't pop up with messages saying "x was changed to auth level y" every 3 seconds...).
     
  19. Blastcore

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    If we don't make a sys.watchBattle()? They still wouldn't be wouldn't exist. How you said, not every server will have something that needs for example Megausers.

    It is possible, but we will not make it, or atleast of what we know and what Coyo said.
     
  20. IFM

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    I have noticed a situation like this come up once since I was MU'd. I think this would really help in those odd circumstance that it would occur, but if its not possible then it is not possible.
     
  21. Crystal Moogle

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    MAYBE being the keyword. I never said it was going to be made, I was giving an example of how it could be. But as I said, I'm not sure if it would work like that. If it was possible like that though, then Megausers wouldn't be needed in every server, and only one function they don't have to use at all.
     
  22. Wander

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    The title was very intersting, I was convinced Megausers could fly now :x
    Anyway, sice I don't have anything further to give to this topic, looks like my last post here ^^
     
  23. Prinny

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    I think something like this should be held to Moderators and Admins. Since, I believe at least, Time Stalling is against the rules and that's not what megausers exist for, Moderators and Admins are to be left to this.

    Or we could remove the No Timeout clause at all, which means Time Stalling would only go so far.
     
  24. mibuchiha

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    I support this. Tbh idk why the no timeout thing is even there. ~_~
     
  25. Harry

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    Second ^
     
  26. Wander

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    Ok, I lied about not posting again

    I third the idea, unless you want time stalling trolls, don't have it at all :x
     
  27. Jules

    Jules i make you MANGRY

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    megausers is not coded into the simulator, it is scripted in via the server.
    this is why your suggestion cannot work.
     
  28. coyotte508

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    Exactly. It can only be solved if a script function is made in order to allow some people to watch a battle, or a function to make someone watch a battle. But it doesn't exist yet.
     
  29. Crystal Moogle

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    And that's why I ask for it :3
    Actually I'll post it in the script thread thingy
     
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