[HGSS] Salamence Uber? or OU? poll

Discussion in 'Past Gens Discussion' started by DragonAce2, May 26, 2010.

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Should Salamence be Uber? Yes/No

  1. YES!

    2 vote(s)
    18.2%
  2. NO!

    9 vote(s)
    81.8%
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  1. DragonAce2

    DragonAce2 Guest

    With latias just being voted Uber by Smogon, it looks as if Salamence is going to be next casualty of the 'suspect test'. So if you don't think Salamence should be outed or if you do think he should be outed, then here is your chance to have your say.
     
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  2. zeroality

    zeroality Artificial Insanity

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    I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread. If it starts to turn sour, it will be closed swiftly.
     
  3. Kioku

    Kioku Member

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    yeah no
     
  4. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    No. I say we stick to Smogon tiers to keep the majority happy.
     
  5. Professor Oak

    Professor Oak same Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep

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    I've been going around reading all of DragonAce2's posts, and he seems like he just wants to oppose Smogon tiers for the sake of opposing them. I'm fairly sure a few other people have noticed this as well.

    Answer the poll's question: Possibly.
     
  6. Darkon

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    No way.

    First, Salamence is flying, he losts 25% HP every time he comes in battle.
    Second, with 75% HP, any rock/ ice/ dragon attack, or various prioritys attacks, or combinations of life orb, sandstorm etc can kill he fast.

    I don't use Salamence, now we have too much Scizors and Lucarios that kill Salamence with their priority moves.

    And what hell Salamence will do in ubers? Rayquaza, Latios and Garchomp will be more used ever.
     
  7. Professor Oak

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    Okay, can I just say this one thing, because it's annoying me how many people don't understand this:
    A POKEMON'S ABILITY IN UBERS DOES NOT AFFECT WHETHER THE POKEMON IS UBER. ONLY THE POKEMON'S ABILITY IN OU CAN AFFECT THIS.

    Salamence is usually used alongside Rayquaza, because it is so similar. Many teams can't deal with Ray alone, so imagine a slightly faster (so Palkia can lose) yet slighty weaker version following up after Ray has weakened your team. That's how Salamence is used.
     
  8. Akusu

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    I doubt we have enough information to make this kind of determination, as one of his major checks has just been banned.

    I will say that I don't consider him Uber as he can be dealt with, but he is consistent enough that I wouldn't disagree if he was determined to be so.
     
  9. DragonAce2

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    lol I doubt that you have read "all" my posts otherwise you would find that I have stated that smogon do alot of good. I AM NOT ANTI-SMOGON, and I'l say it again, I think that they do alot of good for competitive battling and pokemon in general. HOWEVER, unlike most people (maybe yourself included), I don't simply conform to everything that they say, because they are not always right. And just because you only see my so called "anti smogon remarks" it doesn't give you the right to label me anti smogon, because I'm not. I think that you need to spend more time worrying about controlling the forums, than making damming remarks about it's members.
     
  10. Akusu

    Akusu Guest

    Poor grammar in that tirade aside, please note that there are always plenty of dissenting voices that participate in every single part of their tiering process, which is also under review constantly. Go participate in the discussions with Smogon to get some perspective on that. If you had made this post in the spirit of simply "let's find out what the P-O community thinks" you wouldn't be coming off as an ass and being called on it. Perception is all we have when we're online, and if you don't like it choose your words (and proof-reader, I recommend FireFox) better.
     
  11. DragonAce2

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    I do see what you mean and I will edit my opening post accordingly, as for grammar, I don't see what the problem is, given that the internet is full of shorthand and abbreviations, so I don't see your point there, sorry. In my opening post the perception that I wanted to give to voters was that they can have an impact on the decisions made here, not smogon. Smogon will make Salamence Uber whether we like it or not, and when I quizzed Coyotte on whether he would follow suit, he said that he would ask the community and staff if it was what they wanted before making a decision. So this poll was meant to gather information on the inevitable decision on Salamence, rather than what some think is a "gang up and oppose smogon bully fest".
     
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  12. Jules

    Jules i make you MANGRY

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    this thread makes me angry.
     
  13. DragonAce2

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    How so?
     
  14. zeroality

    zeroality Artificial Insanity

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    84.62% voted no, that's enough for an initial estimate. This thread is going down the path that I expected it to, all the way to crapfest city. Locked.
     
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