Design of the app

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  1. Sgt. Padawan

    Sgt. Padawan New Member

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    This is my contribution, my vision of how it could be the application, I am finishing other windows, but now you can get a sense with this image.



    Sorry for bad English, I speak a little and I used the Google tool.
     

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    Elements BOOMER SOONER Forum Moderator Server Staff Forum Moderator Server Staff

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    Personally, I love how the team builder is currently. This one looks very cluttered to me.
     
  3. Sgt. Padawan

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    In the model I made, you will access the editor team individually by selecting the pokemon. And within this new area could set up your pokemon individually.

    I will finish the individual still images of the area tonight.
     
  4. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Well-Known Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    I personnally love that design. Though people may not like the dark tones, I love it!
     
  5. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    Very nice!
     
  6. destinybond

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    i also like the dark colors. This could be melded with the current one to make a very appealing look
     
  7. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Well-Known Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    Tough choice... after comparing the 2 i like the current one a lot too.
     
  8. Sgt. Padawan

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    Thank you, I like dark colors. Applications so always grab my attention.

    I will now finalize the entry screens and the screen of choice for Pokemon, hope you like the result.
     
  9. Darkon

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    I prefer the actual. If you wanna dark, use dark colors in the actually team builder ._.

    But for me, the best team builder is the first of all, that remember netbattle xd
     
  10. Quacks

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    I like the current one more due to more efficient layout overall (in this one I'd be forced to close a window/go back after editing a poke then open another one, while in current one everything it's one click per poke), but I'm sure bunch of people would disagree with me.

    Is implementing both, with a way to select either, a possibility?
     
  11. Sgt. Padawan

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    Indeed Curanderos in the version of layout I'm doing, there is the option to change pokemon on the inner screen, much like the old NetBattle.
     
  12. Darkness

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    Nice...!! I like what you did with it.
     
  13. Sgt. Padawan

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    Ready.

    Finalized the layout of the area of modification of Pokemon. As you can see, all that POBS currently has, was preserved.

    In my theory, would be simpler to select the pokemon, click on his picture, would open a pop-up and then you could choose your new poke.

    Hope you enjoy.

    I'll make a pack of modification of the current game, changing only the funds and leaving him with that guy in dark, will not change the order of any button, after all, I do layout, scheduling leave for who knows. =]

    Edit: I made a version in green and one blue, all clear, for those who did not like it dark.
     

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  14. Darkness

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    Better than before. I will love to see it in action.
     
  15. Erebos

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    I really want to try it out. It just looks awesome. I would love to try it out.

    I also see Slots on top. maybe you could make it so that the poke's Image appears on the slot tab? that would also be very cool for future thought.
     
  16. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    Great Design. How do you select the pokemon?
     
  17. coyotte508

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    By clicking on the pokémon image.

    Learn to read!
     
  18. Sgt. Padawan

    Sgt. Padawan New Member

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    in my view, to choose a pokemon, you click the image to open pokemon in the slot.
     
  19. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    That doesn't explain how it's selected from all possible pokemon.
     
  20. Sgt. Padawan

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    Lutra, this is a concept art, a design is not finalized, would miss many other windows. But the idea is to follow the same style.
     
  21. coyotte508

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    It opens a popup. Then I could do a list will all pokémon icons or w/e
     
  22. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    Is there not enough room for a drop down list to select pokemon? It looks like there's enough room. Then you wouldn't need any other external windows to just build a team from scratch?
     
  23. Sgt. Padawan

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    It is a personal matter of opinion so I do not like drop-down list, select a pokedex think it would be better.
     
  24. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Well-Known Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    Or.... a pop-up drop down list. That's also possible. And I agree with Padawan, because it you push everything to put a drop down list then it'll be cramped and hard to add other things. I like padawan's idea as it is.
     
  25. Kioku

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    I like the current one better. You can see what pokemon is holding which item pretty instantly, so it's hard to forget and leave stuff out. It has a smoother feel to it.
     
  26. Professor Oak

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    The positive thing about this is that it makes the current "advanced" tab redundant. Most people will say that setting IVs, gender, ability etc aren't "advanced" options anyway. I also like the looks of the actual Pokemon page of the team builder, especially the watery green one.
    The negative: I don't like the first page of the team builder. It seems far too cluttered. The individual Pokemon builder seems to cluttered also. I prefer the way we currently have it, with the team listed at the top of the Pokemon you're currently editing. You seem to have forgotten a "Load Team" button as well.

    Overall, I prefer the current one.

    (P.S. I know it's just a design, but I can't help but shout about Sharpedo learning Aqua Tail millions of times...)
     
  27. E-Barto

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    The green font in the blue version is quite unreadable.
    I have to agree, I personally like the old version more. Maybe it's the simple design.
    But the "Advanced Options" window is obsolete, and should be standard in the ol' version, too.

    Just an idea:
    Could you make a more simple design where the frame has the same color in all versions and just a few parts get changed?
     
  28. Radiance

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    what i like about this design is a much more compact layout. the issue i have with the current team builder is that everything is all over the place - item, nature, hidden power, ability etc. aren't near eachother and small text doesnt help, so it's hard to skim over your team to see if you missed everything or made mistakes which i find really useful on shoddy as all the pokemon's details are in one small place.

    design-wise though i like the look of the current team builder better.
     
  29. Akusu

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    There's a bunch of good with some bad in here.

    Good:
    - Gets rid of the advanced tab.
    - No gradient! Life is much easier for those planning on skinning it.
    - Instead of the trainer card you have, it would be nice if that design was incorporated into the launcher and/or the server window so you know what you're playing with.

    Bad but fixable (oversights):
    - There's some general alignment issues but I'll give the benefit of the doubt that they would be fixed in the final version
    - Probably can ditch the triple zeros at the end in favor of one or none.
    - The erase button is probably unnecessary and dangerous where it is.
    - The way you select the species of your pokemon is... confusing. Something as simple as a small, gray/transparent triangle overlay would give a visual cue that it's a drop-down menu.
    - I don't like the space around the Item drop-down.

    Bad:
    - Multicolored buttons are a distraction (if any button is a different color in a group it should be the most commonly clicked one, and only 1)
    - I prefer the moves chosen where they are in the current team builder.
    - I like the fact that I can see my team at a glance in the current version.

    The more I look at it the more I want to rearrange it =/. That's mainly because I don't think it's necessary to separate out the move slots like that. I think what would be more useful in the real estate of the screen is a box that fills up with the currently illegal moves that go with the ones you've already picked. That would help sometimes if I think I have a brilliant idea but it turns out to be illegal.

    The other thing that would be a good suggestion (imo) would be adding a deposit box that you can simply drag your pokemon into and it puts it into the first available slot. You could still go to the current view to sort them if you feel like it, or to withdraw something you've saved. This would go with the suggestion that has already been made to retain the current builders pokemon with pictures and items in the slots so that you can see what you're building.

    Perhaps you could put the item picture actually on or closer to the picture of the pokemon. That would allow you more freedom with where you put the item dropdown.

    Overall I think it's a good start and it's nice to see the effort put in.
     
  30. Sgt. Padawan

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    v0.3

    Hello!

    Following some of the suggestions forwarded until now made a new art. I followed much of what already existed, but some changes were really crucial.

    1 The top flap, where it is shown the slots now have a miniature pokemon stored in that space.

    2 The area corresponding to the move set was re-adapted to a version very similar to the current game client. I agree with @ Akusu the Move Set was much better.

    3 The administrative buttons were changed, including some, renamed and added other buttons "move to box" and for each slot.

    4 The item was moved up the image of the selected Poke, occupies less space and is more similar to DS and GBA games.

    Finally, I resolved some issues of alignment and color unreadable.

    Hope you enjoy.

    Sgt Padawan, Happy Towel Day!
     

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  31. Akusu

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    Much, much better Sgt.

    Just a few more nitpicks:
    - I'm not sure if the move to slot buttons are necessary, as the current version allows you to drag/drop them. Still, I don't see anything that's missing that would claim that space.
    - Green font still bugs me.
    - Really would still like to be able to see the item that each pokemon has at a glance too.

    Overall a major improvement, good job!
     
  32. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon is an espeon.

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    I like a few parts (everything on the normal tab, especially Ability/HP type), but other than that I really prefer the current one. Personally, I'd prefer to just have the current teambuilder tweaked slightly, (shrink EV sliders a bit, move as much as possible off the advanced tab, shrink the Pokemon selector box, remove wasted space on the "category" section of moves, reorganize a little).

    lets see.. I'm thinking something along the lines of these:

    http://i.imagehost.org/download/0613/teambuilder1
    Not found a place for ability yet, but more tidy.

    http://i.imagehost.org/download/0042/teambuilder2
    Everything in.

    Edit: Newest version is quite a lot better but... I still think an update of the existing one is better than a rewrite. Suggestions:

    - Would make sense to have IVs next to EVs imo (like my ones), saves listing all the stats twice.
    -Foms is not a word. And the alternate forms button could go somewhere less between Hidden Power and the Hidden Power spreads.
    -Not sure if erase slot and erase all slots are good to have at all, you can just do file->new team or select missingno to erase things, and it could lead to a lot of bad misclicks..
    -Actually, thinking about it, why are you adding more buttons anyway? All of the bottom left ones seem to have little use.
    -Where are the buttons to go to dex and box?
     
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  33. Sgt. Padawan

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    I did not understand what you mean by this item:

    "Really would still like to be Able to see the item That Has each pokemon at a glance too."
     
  34. Akusu

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    Where you added the pokemon image on each slot, it should have the pokemons item there too. See current version for an idea of what I mean.

    Definitely agreed, which is why I characterized it as dangerous in my first response.
     
  35. Professor Oak

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    Oak is nitpicking again:
    You've got the Load Team button... but you've lost your Save Team button. Surely "Save Pokemon" and "Move to Box" are the same thing?
    Alternate... Foms?
    It still looks very cramped... in fact, it looks more cramped than your old version.
    It's DPP, it should be called IVs not DVs.
    It still hasn't got an item preview like the current team builder.
    The type images (Dark/Water on Sharpedo) don't look very good, imo.
    The IV number should be just 31, not 031.
    That green on the dark background... No.
    EVs should be 0 not 000 when set to 0.
    From the looks of those "Move to slot #" boxes, you can't just drop and drag like you can in the current team builder. This sucks, and removing these boxes and implementing the feature would free up a tiny bit of space.
    The word "Settings" seems to be a bit... useless.
    If happiness is underneath the nature and item, surely it should drop the colon? The items above it don't have it, and it looks out of place with it.
    The text on the "Alternate Fo(r)m(e?)s" button looks too heavy.
    Also, give me a green one, like you did for the previous one.

    Positive things:
    Those stupidly huge buttons on the old one have gone.
    The bars showing the selected moves are under the list of moves, which I feel is a better position than in your old version.
    You're actually having a go at trying to improve the team builder, so good on you.

    I ran out of things to nitpick at, so the next line is the end of my post.
    I still prefer the current PO team builder.
     
  36. Sgt. Padawan

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    Ending this tonight all screens, with the views of all got to do something really better. Hope you all enjoy. I'm already anticipating selection screens pokemon, battle screen and main entry screen. work is great, but is also very pleasant.

    From what I saw until now the program is almost all contributory. I hope one day my suggestions will be considered. My only idea is to turn our game into something better for everyone.

    I hate "Shoddy Battle." I miss the good times of NetBattle, I hope that we, together, fun to return to battle simulators.

    Goodbye!
     
  37. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Well-Known Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    Yes, thanks a lot!

    If we improve the current Teambuilder I'm sure it'll be thanks to your suggestions and the discussions that followed. I'm waiting for those screens :p
     
  38. Jules

    Jules i make you MANGRY

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    nooooooooooooooooooo nonononono

    requiring more windows than needed = netbattle.

    i do say i absolutely love how you have everything placed onto one window, eliminating the advanced tab (as it's not needed). but there are some qualities from the current team builder that give a lot of appeal (the pokemon tabs, no pop-ups).

    mix and match the qualities and i say you have a winner.
     
  39. Sgt. Padawan

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    With just finish the battle window, I bring my new contributions.

    This time I heard what everyone said and tried to push myself to the fullest.

    Remember that tried to maintain compatibility with everything that exists, since the functions of dragging and dropping things even more didactic system.

    Hope you all enjoy the work,


    Best regards,

    Sgt Padawan

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  40. Jules

    Jules i make you MANGRY

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    holy shit!

    aside from the way you pick the pokemon, i love everything.

    i still think there should be no popup windows... ;\
     
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