Pokemon Sun and Moon - Pre-release discussion (SPOILERS)

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  1. Spoovo The Pirate

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    Unless Ash-Greninja gets a significant improvement over the original - which I severely doubt - no sane competitive player will use it.

    Serves it right, tbh. Keep the game and the anime separate, imo.
     
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    I still think it's going to be useful for in-game use though. Noting that Protean Greninja is unlikely to be able to be obtained until January, when Pokemon Bank becomes usable with Gen 7 games, Ash-Greninja could be interesting to use before then.
     
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    Those of you downloading the demo. It's going to be around 400MB of data. As for SuMo digitally themselves? 3.2GB! DX
     
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    hi i dont know if anyone has already done this but a few days ago i had nothing to do so i decided to go through all japanese and english trailers again and calc the base hp stats for the new pokemon who had an hp value shown in them, so i guess i might as well post it here too

    http://pastebin.com/8ym37Rkw

    Note that some of them may be a little higher than the final value because I assumed they all had no evs in HP as they most likely did (even a few evs with imperfect ivs would make no huge difference anyway). Not all of these give us something new but there might be a few interesting ones to look at:

    - Rowlet has a pretty high hp stat for a starter (it was shown in a trailer at lv 5 so it is really unlikely to have had any EVs there), which means its final evo will probably have good hp as well;
    - other pokemon with decently high hp stats which either have or are likely to have an evolution are Stufful and Pyukumuku, and they both have quite interesting abilities which would work nicely with high hp stats;
    - Wishiwashi has a really low HP stat which doesn't change when it becomes School form, which doesn't really help it, but at least it's SpAtk and SpDef stats seem to be quite high (looks like they will be higher than 140 and 120 respectively, but this can't be too accurate due to the same reason explained below with Zygarde);
    - Alolan Raticate officially has more HP than regular Raticate, probably at the cost of some Speed, while Raichu, Vulpix, Ninetales and Exeggutor will either keep the same stat or receive a small change;
    - Solgaleo also has a really high hp stat and Lunala is likely to have the same like most cover legends in the past. It is possible, though not too likely, that the lv 50 Solgaleo shown in the video had some HP evs, which in the worst case scenario (252 evs and 31 ivs) would cause the base stat to drop down to a minimum of 105;
    - Perfect Zygarde has an absurdly high HP stat (double as 50% Zygarde's, while 10% Zygarde's is half of that), which means it will recover a good portion of HP while changing form; another interesting thing about Zygarde is that its 10% forme's atk and def stats appear to be similar, if not the same, as 50% Zygarde's ones according to the damage dealt to Metagross with Thousand Waves/Arrows and taken from Garchomp's Dragon Claw, though stats that aren't HP are much harder to calc due to more factors such as rolls, natures, ivs and evs applied to 2-3 stats to be taken into consideration.

    I also tried to calc Popplio's stats according to a gameplay that was shown some months ago, it probably won't be too helpful and 1 or 2 of these stats might be a little off since I didn't consider natures to have at least 4 accurate ranges out of 6, but I guess it can probably still give a vague idea of what its final evolution's stats will look like so I'll just leave it here.

    http://pastebin.com/rnpW7kN1
     
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    I've been following the early hands-on previews and opinions of Pokémon Sun and Moon, with a lot of information being confirmed or revealed in these reviews. I'm going to collate a bunch of this information in this post, so potential major story, gameplay and other spoilers may follow in this post. You have been warned.

    First thing is a simple confirmation of something we already knew - Pokémon Gyms are, indeed, gone. The Trials system does replace the Pokemon League system at least. This has been reported as giving them unique ways to handle each trial that isn't just "beat the leader, win the badge, repeat until Champion", and isn't apparently just about beating Pokémon either.

    There's reportedly a lot of emphasis on the story this time around, with most people assuming that the end of the actual storyline of Sun and Moon will be the end of the game, not the end of the Pokémon League / Trials. Apparently, the story seems to be a coming-of-age story more in line with traditional RPGs, instead of following the Pokémon formula again. Whether this is a good or bad thing is up to individual opinion.

    The way you move seems to be completely changed to do away with the classic grid-system movement from Gens 1-5, and more towards using the analogue stick for multi-directional movement, similar to the Roller Skates in X and Y. This has forced changes in how trainers are encountered, which are now based on distance and movement speed.

    As a result of the previous point, there has been reports of the game starting off quite slow, with one previewer saying that they had played for 2 hours, but still felt like they were in "tutorial" mode.

    There's also been worries that the difficulty might be easier than other games. The following couple of points contribute to the worries:
    • Your rival now picks the starter that is weak to your starter's attacks i.e. if you pick Litten, he picks Rowlet; if you pick Rowlet, he picks Popplio; if you pick Popplio, he picks Litten.
    • There's a more clear indication of whether you're close to being in the line of sight of a trainer who is willing to battle. It is being reported that the screen starts to have the top and bottom of the screen slowly have black bars like (similar to this) to clearly indicate that you're in the range of a trainer. It is already known that this visual effect fully happens when you do encounter a trainer, so it gradually gets to the point where they do encounter you. Considering the change in movement (if true), this is almost mandatory to have, so idk why they complain about it making the game easier.
    • Reportedly, the game remembers what types of moves are effective against various Pokémon if they have been used before against that Pokémon (or type, the report was unclear). This would help people to realise what moves are better for the new Pokémon and forms.
    • The Rotom Pokédex apparently helps to tell you where you need to go next in the game. The preview report that said this said that they often get lost in Pokémon games, so I imagine that they're actually a fucking idiot, but it might be more useful if the Gen 7 games require you to hop from island to island repeatedly.

    There are more new Pokémon and Alolan forms yet to be revealed. One preview mentioned that within the first 2 hours they had, they encountered 1 Pokémon they hadn't yet seen, as well as 1 new Alolan form that they were not allowed to discuss at the time of the article. I don't think anyone expected anything different from this, but it'd be nice to actually be surprised by unannounced forms and Pokémon. not that i'll get to because europe gets the game 5 FUCKING DAYS AFTER THE REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD

    The demo that was given to the previewers did not allow for any 3D usage at all. Will this carry on into the full game? I'd argue that it probably should, assuming that they can't fix the massive problems with lag in battles that they had with X and Y. Still, it'd be a notable exclusion from the game considering the system it is on, so I can't see it being removed from the game at all.

    Unfortunately, the preview seems to say that the Pokémon Snap-esque minigame only lets you take pictures of specific Pokémon in specific locations. Whether it will change up the Pokémon by timeframe or anything like that is still unknown, but if it follows the trend started by the preview copy, it might not be as fun as people initially thought.

    You can now see the moves' effect in-battle without changing screen, preventing you from losing time in in-game battles, and preventing you from having to check multiple screens over. This could be argued as making the game easier, but I don't think anyone should complain about this feature at all.

    Back to the Rotom Pokédex, apparently it mostly displays a mini-map for you when you are out and about, so that you have a faint idea of what is around you. I'm unsure exactly what this mini-map is like, but I would only guess that it is similar to the AreaNav feature from ORAS.

    Some of the info in the spoiler tags might already be known, but I've played it safe anyway.
     
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    Alolan Grimer has been confirmed, as Poison/Dark type.

    Err... yay?
     
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    STAB SUCKER PUNCH!
    Besides I am more hype for the unconfirmed Jangmo-o's evo, hopefully it happens. Dragon/Fighting typing is awesome.
     
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    ^ ok but a fairy wind is gonna ohko

    I was really hoping for a mud or lava grimer though :/
     
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    I think Poison / Dark might actually make Muk worse. Sure, it is only weak to Ground-types now, but it is now in direct competition with Drapion and Skuntank.

    Both Drapion and Skuntank are faster, Drapion has Toxic Spikes and Whirlwind utility, Draption and Skunktank both have decent Dark-type moves.

    Muk is slow as balls, its best Dark-type move is currently Thief or Payback, and it lacks a bunch of key utility moves to make its decent bulk work. Additionally, one of the key perks of Muk was being able to take on Fairy-types with relative ease thanks to its good bulk. Now, it no longer resists Fairy.

    On the flip side, Muk has the highest Attack stat of all three Dark/Poison type Pokémon, the highest bulk and it gets Gunk Shot, unlike the other two. Muk just needs to get some good Dark-type moves. Sucker Punch would be absolutely perfect, but it needs something else too.


    Jangmo-o's as-of-yet-unconfirmed evo being Dragon / Fighting is cool, due to unique typing. It is also cool because it helps to keep Steel-types in check. Unforunately, as already pointed out, Fairies utterly destroy it, so...


    Also Tackle is apparently down to 40 BP now. Ok.
     
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    Muk's niche is being more bulky than either of them and having access to a Curse set with a much better STAB to be throwing around. As long as they don't take away its bulk I'd go so far as saying it's a very marked improvement since it can combat psychic types now, which tend to be pretty powerful the lower you go in tiers. Sucker Punch would be nice but Payback is going to be hitting pretty hard since you're not aiming to outpace things with muk regardless.

    Most fighting types have EQ anyway, while even mega Audino runs Psychic sometimes.
     
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    Okay so Type:Null's evolution was just confirmed by corocoro leaks. It's name is Silvadi. Apparently Type:Null evolves when it meets a trainer it trusts & breaks out of its helmet for said trainer. It also says it has an item called Memory that lets it be one of the 18 types. The items are listed as Memory sticks. Also Jangmo'o's evolutions were revealed
     
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    IIRC 18 types at once would make it weak to Rock only. But I don't think that this will happen, most probably it's getting the ability to change to one type. Multi Attack sounds like a weaker Judgment imo.
     
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    It does say "one of 18", so it'll change to exactly one type. The question is whether it is one hold item with either 18 different effects or the ability to choose which type it is, or whether it is 18 different Memory items.

    But it is essentially Arceus, and that slightly disappoints me. That being said, a miniture version of Arceus that could be in OU? Interesting. The reason why it exists better be interesting.
     
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    Methinks it's gonna be some bullshit attempt to clone it or something. Wouldn't be the first time some antagonist team has tried to clone a pokemon.
     
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    It doesn't look very acreus-esque so if they did try to clone it they did a pretty terrible job. The idea of another artificial Pokemon seems like a good explanation though. If multi attack is a physical move that could be cool for a strong physical ghost move or something... (Pls gamefreak we need a better shadow claw)
     
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    New trailer and website update helps to answer some of the question from CoroCoro leaks...

    Silvally: Type-Null's evolution. It's ability is called RKS System... Arceus System... literally mini-Arceus. Its attack did look Physical though. "When Type: Null gains a partner it can trust, it deliberately destroys the restraining device it wears. Once released from that heavy mask, the Pokémon’s speed increases substantially." I think this implies that it might be a Happiness evolution. It also implies that Silvally's Speed will be pretty damn good. With that being said, I can very much see this being OU at the very least.

    Jangmo-o line: It goes Jangmo-o, Hakamo-o, Kommo-o. The 2nd and final forms are both Dragon / Fighting, as previously leaked. Kommo-o gets a unique move: "Clanging Scales is a move that only Kommo-o can learn. It scrapes the scales covering its body against one another, attacking with a great clamor. After using this move, Kommo-o’s Defense is lowered." Also, the official website says this of Kommo-o: "At the end of its harsh training, Hakamo-o evolves into this overwhelmingly powerful form." The mention of "overwhelming power" leads me to think that this line of Pokémon are the pseudo-legendary line.

    Cutiefly's evolution: is called Ribombee. It looks like it has a crap BST. That being said, the official website seems to imply that it might get Spore-like moves. If it does get Spore itself, that could be interesting.

    Bounsweet line: It goes Bounsweet, Steenee, Tsareena. Queenly Majesty is one of the abilities on Tsareena, which blocks priority moves. Not the best Pokémon to have that ability though, I reckon. It also gets a new move called Trop Kick that apparently drops the opponent's attack as well as damages... so a Physical Snarl? Still probably going to be a forgetting Grass-type if you ask me.

    Alolan Grimer and Muk: They are both confirmed to get Bite and Crunch, so that's a lot better. It no longer gets Stench, which the official website has some lore for: "The Grimer and Muk in the Alola region produce and store their toxins within their bodies. So, unlike the Grimer and Muk in other regions, you won’t detect any unpleasant aromas when you draw near one." It also loses Sticky Hold, which is a negative. It now gets Poison Touch (which was its hidden ability in its normal form) and Gluttony, two relatively useless ability. We can only hope their hidden ability makes up for them.

    Island Kahunas - we had already been told that Hala is the kahuna of the first island, Melemele Island, but we now know the name of the second kahuna: Olivia. She is the kahuna of Akala Island. She was stated to have nothing but Rock-types in the trailer, sending out a Nosepass.

    Trial Captains - we had already been told about Kiawe (the Fire-type captain with the Alolan Marowak), Sophocles (the Electric-type captain who looked overweight), Mallow (the Grass-type captain who apparently loves cooking?), and Lana (the Water-type captain who looks really young and had a spear in her hand). We now know of a 5th Captain: Ilima, who specialises in Normal-type Pokémon. Ilima looks a little androgynous, though I would speculate that they male by their appearance alone. The most important bit of info about this that there are only 4 natural islands on Alola, with 1 man-made one. So, there appears to either be multiple captains for each island, or the Aether Foundation's island seems to have its own trial. I'd assume the former.
     
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    Say hello to gen 7's oversexualised loli Pokémon, Steenee.

    I already feel sorry for it.

    EDIT: Anyone reckon that Queenly Majesty might be available to other 'queen' Pokémon? Like Nidoqueen or Vespiquen?
     
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    Spoovo, rule 34 is merciless enough. Don't give people who enforce it ideas to start early.
     
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    You gotta agree that Tsareena's pretty THICC!
     
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    okay but have any of you seen the almost certainly fake alolan jigglypuff going around. Actually hoping this one was real.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Kommo-o is a Dragon/Fighting type and he looks so bulky and physically offensive but his signature move seemed like it was special.
     
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    Maybe it'll hit hard on both sides like Salamence? *shrug*
     
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    Hyperspace Fury drops defense as well. Maybe it is along those lines, possibly breaking protect and stuff? Maybe just maybe. Also I'd rather it's physical with SD/BU and great coverage, as it seems to be a pseudo legend for sure.
     
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    fitzy brought this up in Indigo

    Parental Bond's second hit is now only 25% of the first hit, compared to 50% in Gen 6. This might not be a massive change, as Power-Up Punch and Seismic Toss may still produce the same kind of effects... but if they're nerfing it, could they change the mechanics with other moves as well? Definitely something to test when we have our hands on the game.
     
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    Yeah, that might just be nerfy enough to keep Mega-Kanga in OU this generation. Twill be interesting to say the least.

    I wonder if Arceus will get access to Type:Null's move? Would be great for SD sets.
     
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    God damn, Lilligant look what a trip to the Alola reagion does to you. You gain a middle evolution, and you look entirely different going as far as growing out your petals to full leafy things and losing your grass skirt thing you have going, and likely you have a better movepool because you took a vacation to Alola.

    I like our new unique typing of Fighting/Dragon on this Evo line, if it can get Mach Punch or Vacuum Wave, because it only looks like it's speed probably will fall in the mediocre range (base 60-80 probably), that'd be pretty nice to have against some Ice types if it falls in line to the lower tiers (likely UU is where I'm guessing it might go until we see some stats and movepools). Also, Dragons basically already die to most of the fairy moves in one hit, who really gives a fuck about 4x weakness to it now (MORE POWUH).

    Gaining the Dark type, I can see Muk getting some decent usage in the lower tiers this gen around. It was already useful in a handful of situations, but that Psychic weakness and how prevalent they usually are in strength in the lower tiers made it really difficult at times to use, or even consider. Now that it's immune to Psychic types, though you lose resistance to Bug, Fairy, and Fighting? Probably a bit of give and take, but as a way to stop Psychic types, I'd say worth it (those things are super annoying lower tiers). Though it'll still fight for a spot against Skuntank/Drapion as long as it can retain Fire Punch and Ice Punch in it's movepool, it'll at least have a certain niche against certain Ground and Steel types that can switch into the former two. Just it's gotta keep it's current bulk and offensive ability.

    Your rival is looking down on you this time Oak. Type advantage? Who needs that? I'm just gonna win with what I got, you're the scrub who needs the type advantage this time.
     
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    That's at least two things that are changing, so hopefully more will change. I would really like to see Knock Off get nerfed. XY made several mechanics changes when it came out too, so I would be surprised if these two things are the only mechanics changes.
     
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    Sivally: Oooh look at the hype it's not getting. That's what GF gets for being original XD
    The closest thing to Areceus in OU is Mew. The reason being wow/recovery combo, huge ass move pool, good speed, bulk to take neutral hits all day. I can't see Sivally having any of this. Multitype isn't a game breaking ability. It works because the weilder has ridiculous stats across the board.

    Kommo-o: I've wanted Dragon fighter for so long, it makes for a great offensive type. Not particularly happy with the design, it's more ugly than badass. Competitively speaking, if this guy really gets soundproof, that'll be bad news for Sylveon. Or if it gets bulletproof, it will be able to setup on Ferrothorn without giving a single fuck.

    Tsareena: See Rule 34. Also I doubt it will outspeed Talon, so Queen's majesty doesn't seem too majestic. It'll help against Mamo I guess.

    Alolan Muk: Muk & Grimer are some of my most favorite pokemons from Gen 1. However I don't really dig the new coloring, it seems completely out of place. Poison/Dark is okay typing, though losing fighting & fairy resistance will hurt a lot. Competitively speaking, it says fuk u to Gengar; so there's that.
     
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    Judging solely from the material they've already put out on Type: Null and Sivally, Silvally will have a significant amount of power from at least one side (likely Attack, due to Multi Attack appearing to be Physical in the trailer) and a good Speed stat also. Its defenses may very well be reduced by the helmet on its head being destroyed, but I can't see it having Deoxys-like defenses. I think Type: Null and Sivally are technically going to be legendary Pokémon also, as I don't recall them showing them being available in the wild, which would further my point of it being quite strong.

    I didn't think about Talonflame and Fletchinder for Tsareena. Now that I have, it'll at least be a welcome addition, as it will force those Pokémon to run an attack that isn't Flying-typed. Will-o-Wisp won't be enough to stop it, as it'll almost certainly get access to something like Synthesis. It's still going to suck overall, but it is a nice addition for that one specific scenario.
     
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    Doesn't Bruxish block priority with its Dazzling or whatever they called it? There's a Talonflame stop right there as long as it doesn't get completely ruined by burns.
     
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    but is it stopping regular priority moves & not gale wings?
     
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    I suppose it is something that would need testing to be sure, but I think any time the opponent tries to use a move with priority it just says something like, "Dragonite cannot use Extreme Speed."
     
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    Considering that Gale Wings moves all of its Flying-type moves up one priority bracket, I would assume both Dazzling and Queen's Majesty do the same thing - block it from doing damage. It would need to be tested, however.

    Bruxish was shown to not be hit by Quick Attack when used by Pikachu, but Pikachu still actively selected Quick Attack. It seems more like using a Water-type move on a Water Absorb Pokémon (at full health) or an Electric-type move on a Volt Absorb Pokémon (at full health) - it just nullifies the move completely.
     
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    THE SUN AND MOON DEMO VERSION IS OUT IN AUSTRALIA.

    I'll be updating this post with all the info I can find. Serebii has ongoing reports into the demo as well, and it may have information I don't notice, so check out http://www.serebii.net/. Smogon also has a topic on the matter too, and that can be found by clicking HERE.

    - The Greninja you use has Water Shuriken, Aerial Ace, Double Team and Night Slash. Smogon reports that it has EVs of: 128 Atk / 128 SAtk / 252 Spd. Reports also say it has 20/31/20/31/20/31 IVs. It also has a Neutral nature, Hardy. This is the same for all Greninjas, and you cannot reset for it in the demo. Whether this exact Ash-Greninja will be the one transferred or not is another story.

    - Water Shuriken is now Special.

    - "Elec." on Smogon calculated Ash-Greninja's base stats to be: 72/145/67/153/71/132. That's +50 Attack, +50 Special Attack, +10 Speed compared to normal Greninja. There are other claims as to its Base Stats, however.

    - "Fizz" on Smogon revealed that when you catch a Pokémon with a full party, you now can choose whether to send it to the PC, check its summary or swap out something in your party for it. Let's hope this carries over to the main game.

    - Serebii reports that Super Potions now heal 60 HP of damage.

    - You are 11 in Sun and Moon. People aged 11 can take on the trials, according to an NPC in the demo.

    - Alolan Dugtrio is seen in the demo. Here's a link to an image. There are also videos out there too.

    - Normal Machamp and Slowpoke are seen, so Alolan forms are unlikely.

    - If you get into a battle whilst riding Tauros, you end up keeping the rider outfit on during the battle. It's kinda cool.

    - Other Pokémon seen in Alola: Corsola.

    - The police station has a mascot doll of a Granbull in a police outfit with a Scary Face. It's kinda weird. This probably means that Granbull are likely in Alola, but no confirmation of this.

    - Your mother has a Meowth.

    - The demo has time-based events... of sorts. The demo tells you to come back for a few events at later dates by saying "come back in X days": 19th Oct, 23rd Oct, 30th Oct, 5th Nov and 11th Nov. Could reveal even more new things, or unlock new bonuses.

    - You need to press A to enter at least some buildings. This might be annoying for Pokémon fans, but brings it more in line with most traditional RPGs.

    - Pikipek in the wild have Pluck, Fury Attack, Growl, Supersonic.
    - Rockruff in the wild have Rock Throw, Odor Sleuth.
    - Yungoos in the wild have Leer, Bite, Mud-Slap, Sand Attack.
    - Pikachu in the wild have Electro Ball, Nuzzle, Play Nice, Quick Attack.
    - Jangmo-o in the wild have Leer, Tackle.
    - Hakamo-o in the wild have Tackle, Scary Face.
    - Totem Hakamo has Automotize and Headbutt. It boosts its Special Defense when the battle starts. It calls ally Rockruff.
    - The Pikachu given to you at Level 40 has 252 Speed Evs, is Naive, and has the moves Thunderbolt, Slam, Growl and Iron Tail.

    POKEMON surrounded itself with its Z-power!
    POKEMON unleashes its full force Z-move!

    POKEMON surrounds itself with psychic terrain!

    The effects of Throat Chop prevent POKEMON from using certain moves!

    Aurora Veil made your team stronger against physical and special moves!
    Your team's Aurora Veil wore off!

     
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  35. Annoying Orange

    Annoying Orange sweet creature Social Media Rep Social Media Rep

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    Dominique-XLR I'm a simple man. I see boobs, I like.

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    It has smegma on it's head now. Oh god why...

    Was that a pussey joke?

    This is really getting out of hand.
     
  38. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    So I tried to pair up revealed characters with Ultra Beasts.

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    i like the razor looking things on that one ub pokemon's wrists to match its lookalikes emo personality

    also some of the early art leaks are now confirmed, so we can gather the rest from confirmed leaks from the leaker.
     
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    Joyverse Back for a blast!

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    Spoiler1 from demo: Battle Bond boosts Water Shuriken and it's special now. That's great! Imma use it on Accelgor now! :3
    Also this Throat Chop, it's a move that stops the opp from using sound moves. It sounds pretty savage, throat chops kill irl tbh.
     
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