[ORAS Ubers] It's me again ! My official Ubers team arrives ! ^^

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  1. ThomasRutherford

    ThomasRutherford Just call me Lily ! ^^

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    So here it is. My other Ubers team (I think it is slightly better than the other one, I'll let you think it through)


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    Ben And Nuts (Ferrothorn) (M) @ Focus Sash

    Trait: Iron Barbs

    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk

    Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)

    - Gyro Ball

    - Power Whip

    - Stealth Rock

    - Leech Seed

    Here he is again. My rocky Sword Dancer Ferrothorn. But unlike the OU one, he has the Power Whip move (a tier upper, more power I guess). For those who haven't read my OU team, I'll re-do my descrpition :
    "Ferro is the obvious Rocker on this team, always in the first position. And then, well... Let's face it. People usually don't expect this one to have Sword Dance. It is difficult to use, though, that I know, only do when I'm sure Ferro will survive two attacks. The Sassy nature is here too to make his Sdef almos equel to his Def, and make the Gyro Ball stronger. I hesitated between Seed Bomb and Power Whip, but I chose precision over power. That's my choice. Ferro is here especially for the rocks, after all."
    (Copy and paste, for lazy people :D)


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    Grygo (Groudon) @ Red Orb

    Shiny: Yes

    Trait: Drought

    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

    - Fire Punch

    - Smack Down

    - Rock Polish

    - Precipice Blades

    Same here, let me copy (xD) :
    "My main main counter of the dreadful Xerneas. If Rock Polish passes, Saruko can wipe out a good number of opponent Pokemon. Smack Down is a risked bet, but it can affect Dragon-Flying-type Pokemon (resisiting both Fire and Ground-type moves), and put them to Precipices Blades' mercy. Fire Punch is a basic stabbed move."


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    Daud (Mewtwo) @ Mewtwonite Y

    Trait: Pressure

    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd

    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)

    - Future Sight

    - Calm Mind

    - Flamethrower

    - Focus Blast

    Here's the new one. A pretty brutal Special attacker, and well... The Insomnia bonus is there to counter them Darkrai (I've done it before ^^). Like my Mewtwo on my other Ubers team, I have a little doubt about the Future Sight, but... I like this move. I can't help it.


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    Mononoké (Xerneas) @ Power Herb

    Trait: Fairy Aura

    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd

    IVs: 30 SAtk / 30 SDef

    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)

    - Geomancy

    - Moonblast

    - Hidden Power [Ground]

    - Aromatherapy

    Ah, the dreadful Xerneas finally arrived in my team. The classic combo Geomancy + Power Herb + Moonblast is a... blast (kill me please), and the Earth HP is there to counter the fairy's weaknesses, that is to say steel, fire and poison. Mono is also a therapist, which is a consequent bonus in my opinion. Damn those burns and poisons ! :o


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    Atmosnake (Rayquaza) @ Persim Berry

    Shiny: Yes

    Trait: Air Lock

    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

    - Iron Head

    - Dragon Dance

    - Outrage

    - Dragon Ascent

    Slightly different from Natsu, my other Ubers Rayquaza. Iron Head, coupled with Dragon Dance, can take out a lot of fairies (except a dreadful Xerneas with Geomancy, of course), and Dragon Ascent and Outrage are his classical stabbed moves. Outrage is backed up with the berry, which reduces handicap a little.


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    God in Fire (Arceus-Fire) @ Flame Plate

    Shiny: Yes

    Trait: Multitype

    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd

    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)

    - Energy Ball

    - Judgment

    - Calm Mind

    - Defog

    The unexpected defogger of my team. Arceus Fire is not played a lot, because rather risky, but with the Calm Mind, and his two offensive moves, he becomes pretty good to play with. I hesitate to change his Plate, and I'll let this one until I have a better idea ^^

    So, what do you think ? ;)
    (P.S. : Rayquaza, Arceus, Mewtwo and Xerneas have a referenced name. Do you know them ? Or will you bother finding them ? ^^)

    Fitzy Edit: This thread brought up drama, is old and has no importable so locking.
     
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  2. Messire-M/TestingTeam

    Messire-M/TestingTeam Good at Pokemon...It's a joke, of course.

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    Hi, not a bad team but I'm sure it could be much better.

    I really don't see the point of Ferro Sword Dance when every of it's check/counter outspeed, Gyroball OHKO Diancie/Xerneas without SD and he has 0 def/spd investment. I highly recommend you make the common bulky set with Gyroball - Spikes/Stealth Rock - Leech Seed - Protect/Power Whip who is alot better.

    After a DD, if Ferro is down, M-Salamence just rekt this team(A frustration or return at +1 will ohko your Xern, no doubt). It can set-up on either Mewtwo who doesn't carry Ice Beam or Thunder or Arceus-Fire who can just do nothing against it. For this, I suggest you switch Arceus Fire with a Arceus Rock Bird Antidote set Judgment/Ice Beam or Toxic/Defog/Recover and this set will also help you dealing with Ho-Oh, your only counter to it being Groudon which is surely OHKO'ed by a Choice Banded earthquake seeing he has 0 def investment.

    And for Rayquaza, maybe change Outrage to Dragon Claw/Extreme Speed cause this is set-up fodder for Xerneas.

    Hope I helped you, have a good day.
     
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  3. Lacus Clyne

    Lacus Clyne This might get unpleasant!

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  4. ThomasRutherford

    ThomasRutherford Just call me Lily ! ^^

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    Actually, my team works, thank you very much. I don't always win, of course, but who does, anyway ?
    I prefer to make my own choices, even the bad ones, so I won't check any of your suggestions either.
    I want to get better, not to change.
     
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    ren >:O ech

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    That doesn't make sense.
     
  6. NananaBatman

    NananaBatman Well-Known Member

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    Why on earth did you post a RMT if you are not open to criticism. If you can't accept that your build is god-awful (which it is), then why bother showing it to people? User Lacus Clyne was trying to help you here, but then you drop some bullshit like "I want to get better, not to change". Maybe you should follow the links provided so you can see what an actual team looks like. Preferring to make bad choices makes no sense in a competitive environment ; you want to have a good team, not a team that you "like". Also, seeing as you haven't posted anything to confirm your team's success, I find it hard to believe that it works at all (and no, getting to 1100 on the ladder is not a testament to how good a team is).

    Quit wasting people's time by posting shitty teams if you aren't open to suggestions.
     
  7. ThomasRutherford

    ThomasRutherford Just call me Lily ! ^^

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    When I said 'I want to get better not to change', maybe it wasn't a good choice of words, indeed x)
    What I meant is I am opened to suggestions, of course. Like on my other Ubers team or my Ou, when I was told to change some things on my Pokemon. But there, saying 'team don't work, change it all' seemed to be a little rude to me.
    I can understand what Lacus said, but I didn't get the advice well, it's my bad.

    But you are right, batman. I shouldn't post teams. That's why I will stop posting.
     
  8. gengar17

    gengar17 someone turn this nothing into gengar

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    @ThomasRutherford you need to understand that all of us started on a low level at some point, and we've all at one point made shitty teams and all, you just happened to be the kind that post teams early. The problem isn't your team or you, or how you play. You're just a newer player and what you failed to realize is that when you posted the team, you caught the attention of players who are used to high level teams "only", so it's only natural that at their level, "worse" teams seem like a mess. What you shouldn't do is stop posting, what you should do is take some time and visit every suggestion you've been given and try to know why this person who has tons of experience told you that your team is "bad", this is a Pokemon simulator, there's nothing "serious" that is truly going on here and we eventually all want to have fun in the end of the day.
    My advice to you is not completely delete your team, but to simply visit some threads either here or smogon, or different sites, that will guide you to the more "standard" sets that u might find that they take away the fun, but in the end of the day, they are standard because they work best. So when you familiarize yourself and use the standard sets, you will notice how much better they are, then you can move on to truly "having more fun" and "doing things your way", not by inventing weird sets, but by making weird sets that are viable.
    For example: u can say u like future sight as the ONLY stab move on mewtwo, but in the end of the day, no matter how much you play, psystrike will be 100% better at all times, and all u need to do is just copy paste the mewtwo set from the appropriate place, and build from there.

    I hope you don't stop building teams, posting teams or posting in general, never forget that we are here to have fun, and you shouldn't be so frustrated about these things (tbh this is both addressing what u reported and what's in this thread)
     
  9. TraceofLife

    TraceofLife Lucky Strike

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    This, I second this suggestion, everyone have a potential to be good, IMO lurk more and post the best RMT you could make someday! GL with everything man.
     
  10. Zoroark

    Zoroark Stay Firm Forum Moderator Server Moderator Forum Moderator Server Moderator

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    I can't fire away a meaningful opinion about this team cause I don't have much knowledge about ubers.
    But let me give you a piece of advice. Try to read/accept opinions that you think will be constructive for your future teams, those that are only meant to destroy it won't do anything at all but crippling your morale, so ignore them.

    No one starts making OP teams nor stuff like that, we all learn step by step, searching for more information, trying new sets/teams and stuff, and even adding your own touch of originality can create very good teams after you learn more. From what I can see, your team looks kind of unique, yet apparently doesn't look as useful as some other teams I've seen. But just keep trying and don't give up on posting your creations.

    Hope this can cheer you up, unfortunately it's the least I can do for you.
     
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  11. Edna

    Edna Chasing the Dragon Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    My only concern is that you don't need to be rude toward a user if he is less experienced than you in a tier. Posting RMT is basically a way of making a team better more than show off. Instead of being like 'go to smogon to learn how2play xdxd' you should at least try giving sets, explain their utility and how they work, in my opinion.

    I can understand where he wanted to go, he wanted to build teams that have the surprise factor, which is not completely bad and Future Sight Mewtwo is an example. There are a tons of sets that are competitively less viable than other, but imagine if that Mewtwo was coupled with a Fairy Type like Xerneas that scares out Dark mon( which is the case in his team), it's a free set up. Then again, I am unsure if he really sees Future Sight that way, but you just can't say it's '100% of the time' better without explaining why.

    What makes RMT fun to read is the creativity of people, you can't just destroy this just because you dislike it, however I agree the user should be open to criticism so he get more experienced in the tier and maybe develop more fun sets!
     
  12. Joyverse

    Joyverse Back for a blast!

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    Yup seriously speaking, every RMT needs a compulsory importable or else it'll get locked down by fitzy sama.

    And yup @Elize Lutus , every player doing a RMT is not possibly like you, not every person can run stuff like Specs Chomp in OU and live to laugh another day. Yes, we all have faced this common problem one time or the other in that we all were newbies and fucked with stuff like this and that. But we eventually grasped the basics and built a solid foundation upon which we are able to stay a purist or go creative in our sets and make sure we got ahead of the pack. Try not to say to that all teams with surprising sets are meant to be teams with surprise factors as more often than not it is just a newbie mistake that most newbies do. (I ran CM+BU Infernape cuz I wanted a 'mixed' sweeper once so I can relate, most probably we all can!) As that might actually make the person you are implying to think he/she is actually having a great set whereas it may not be.

    And, @ThomasRutherford , I kinda always tried to help you here and there and I again see you do the same mistakes again n again, sigh... What gengar17 said was true in that you should never ever stop posting, we all learn from our mistakes and sooner or later if you stay dedicated to your cause you'll improve. The RMT Section isn't the only place in the forums. Go ahead, check the competitive discussion forums, reading up random posts from here and there will help you grasp how competitive really works or check the analyses forums, the analyses are old and rusty but that'll help you get a rough idea of how the competitive sphere works. Plus it is, at the end of the day, a game, a game where your mistakes won't cost your life. And it is not your teambuilding, mind you, your attitude will drag your plow through the field. Learn to take criticisms correctly more often than not, criticisms are extremely constructive. Learn to click the links when someone shares it especially given the fact that they took the time to share it on YOUR RMT. This is a community and you can't ever one man through the sphere. What if I told you that I also wanted to quit posting in PO just because of some people who criticized a few of my posts before (Strangely enough, few of them have posted here and they are all my acquaintances here) I wouldn't have really even posted a fig after I faced criticizing from some guys on my first RMT, but I stayed strong and look I posted my third RMT recently. Given up has to be the worst thing to do especially when you realize that it is all fun and games and you just gave up in a 'game'. Let this long post be a reminder to you that no one in PO (especially the seniors) would certainly want a newbie to not improve. There is a reason all these have them shiny badge on their person because of their contributions.

    Too Long;Didn't Read. JUST, just remember this fact: Noobs are people who will never improve ever cause they don't know when to start taking in criticism and go their own noobish ways and stay a retarded player with the only goal to annoy, don't end being one. Newbies or Newbs, (that is what you are) are somehow new to the certain spheres of a certain game, and one day they'll become good (if not great) players, they know when to take whose advice and bolster their gaming capabilities. Be one.

    Sigh, Now the actual rate because there are miles to go before I sleep because I have promises to keep.

    Unless you are doing shit stuff like Trick Room Offense with not so offensive mons in ubers, offensive ferro is never good. The idea of an offensive team (Which your team is...) Is to exert pressure (no not the ability! :v) that is, the whole idea is to force your opponent to stumble and switch and fuck up while you overwhelm them with sheer power, Ferro here will just block your force exerting pressure.

    My idea is to possibly use a suicide lead in place of Ferro like,

    Garchomp @ Focus Sash / White Herb
    Ability: Rough Skin
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earthquake
    - Dragon Claw
    - Fire Fang / Fire Blast

    Quick rail banter time, send chomp, if sash, use sr, then use best move versus oppo, deal some damage and die. If white herb, dw about taunt, use SR, do some damage and die. Or... you can also use..

    Deoxys-Speed @ Rocky Helmet / Focus Sash / Mental Herb
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Taunt
    - Stealth Rock
    - Skill Swap
    - Magic Coat

    Copied from smogon cuz lotta stuff,
    248 HP EVs with 244 Defense EVs let Deoxys-S avoid being limited to a single layer of hazards by a Choice Band Ho-Oh's Sacred Fire that burns as well as prevent Deoxys-S from being OHKOed by most physical attacks. 16 Speed EVs and a Timid nature make Deoxys-S faster than maximum Speed Deoxys-A and Mega Aerodactyl. A Rocky Helmet punishes moves that make contact, most notably priority moves and Rapid Spin. In regards to Rapid Spin, this also breaks a Focus Sash held by Cloyster or Excadrill as well as Sturdy on Forretress. A Focus Sash ensures Deoxys-S survives any single attack so that it can be guaranteed a layer of Spikes, most notably powerful special attacks. A Mental Herb saves Deoxys-S once from being Taunted or from accidentally Taunting itself, but to ensure that you beat opposing Deoxys-S, Magic Coat is needed as well. Maximum Speed can be used to gain some edge when facing opposing Deoxys-S, and it is desired if not running Magic Coat.

    Next up is, oh Groudon again? SO MANY GROUDONS GAWD WHY?! ;_;
    Yeah jokes aside, Jolly groudon won't counter geoxern ever. If you intend to use RP then try using Dragon Claw/ Blades / Stone Edge (srsly smack down ain't half as good as edge) or maybe Swords Dance
    Fire Punch is pretty much not at all needed as Precimiss does way more and is not absorbed by Primal Whale. Dragon Claw is for the Giratinas and Lati@s which are fucktom common. Edge if you really feel annoyed by the tower duo which can be replaced by SD cuz needs more powa.
    I also suggest going adamant with 108 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spe, this way you outspeed Deoxys-S at +2 and have relatively decent bulk to actually geoxern and KO it.

    WHY ARE YOU STILL USING FUTURE SIGHT?!?!?!?
    MMYs shouldn't really switch into darkrai, that is 75% of the times plain suicide. I suggest an all out attacking set with Psystrike/Aura Sphere/Flame or Fire Blast/Ice Beam, Fire hits Ferro, Psystrike does what Future sight does and more in one turn, aura sphere actually hits stuff like Dialga, Mega Aggron, Ferrothorn, Heatran, Lucario, Arceus-Rock and few others unlike Focus Blast but go ahead with Focus if you are confident enough.

    The Best GeoXern spread I played was modest 180 HP / 252 SpA / 76 Spe, After Geomancy you again outspeed deoxys s cause benchmarks matter and HP cuz bulk is a thing needed in Ubers. I would more or less feel comfy if you can change to other moves and nix aroma but okay that's your preference.

    Just use Lum Berry on Ray Ray, yu dun wanna get paralyzed or burned either way, nix iron head cause dragon ascent will still hit xern harder for either equake or espeed. EQuake hits keys and heatran and few others already mentioned, espeed cuz we still prio even at +2 e.e

    Fire Arceus as defogger? NO! NO! ;_; Using a rocks+spikes weak arceus forme for defog is downright insanity, I would suggest Arceus Ground or Rock as you end getting rekt by MegaMence or Groudon P lol.

    You can try this...
    Arceus-Rock @ Stone Plate
    Ability: Multitype
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Defog
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Recover
    - Judgment

    or try finding out a good arc ground set cuz idk.

    I WASTED 2 HOURS ON THIS THREAD!!! BE GRATEFUL AND PLS IMPROVE!!!

    Yours Affectionately,
    Joyverse, your hero.
     
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  13. Light Yagami (Anime Guy)

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    Hello ThomasRutherford,
    What a remarkable team you have, I like it. From the looks of things, it seems you have an hyper offensive, which is great as Hyper Offensive teams are renown for maintain both pressure and momentum, very clever!

    I read what you stated before about winning and losing, and you're right; sometimes you lose, and sometimes you win. This is often the case when using hyper offensive teams i.e. it's a 50/50.

    That said, I personally believe there are a few steps which your team can make to easily advance unto the next level.
    Note: To widen your knowledge on Hyper Offensive play styles, you might want to read a few articles on building Hyper Offensive teams.
    Here's an OU article that does just that, sure it isn't UBER, but you'll be able to get a feel for Hyper Offensive teams and how they work.

    Here's the guide (have fun):
    http://goo.gl/4j7bip

    Now then, without any further ado, let's get started!
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    Skarmory @ Custap Berry
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Spikes
    - Brave Bird
    - Taunt

    Skarmory > Ferrorthorn
    Since your hazard setter is a steel type, I suggest using Ferrothorn as it's better suited on Hyper Offense. It's Superior speed (when compared to Ferro) and use of Stealth Rock in combination with Spikes will be helpful in securing rapid victories. Also unlike Ferrothorn, Skarmory has access to Study, an ability which works very similarity to Focus Sash. If you think that's impressive, you'll be pleased to know that it also has access to Taunt, which allows you to shut down the opponents Hazard-Setting Pokemon. Brave Bird is useful for causing damage and hopefully fainting in time before the foe uses defog.

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    Groudon @ Red Orb
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 96 SpD / 56 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Rock Polish
    - Precipice Blades
    - Dragon Claw
    - Fire Punch

    Adamant Nature > Jolly Nature and Dragon Claw > Smack Down
    A change in an adamant nature will allow you to hit incredibly hard. Since you'll be using Rock Polish, I really don't see the need for a Jolly Nature or a high amount of EV's invested into your speed stat. Rock Polish instantly rockets your speed stat sky-high. From here, it's better to just invest in your defences. Next I recommend the use of Dragon Claw over Smack down; as Dragon Claw allows you hit many Dragon types for super effective damage. Which invaluable of course. With this spread, your Groudon becomes a threat that's capable of sweeping through teams with minimal effort :)

    TIP: Give an offense-boosting nature to the pokemon that have a speed boosting move e.g. Rayquaza, Xerneas etc.

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    Mewtwo @ Life Orb
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Psystrike
    - Focus Blast
    - Ice Beam / Shadow Ball
    - Calm Mind

    Ice Beam/Shadow Ball > Fire blast and Psystrike > Future Sight
    Mewtwo Y is a personal favourite. Not only does it look great but it also both power and speed to make it a colossal threat.
    I suggested the moves Ice Beam or Shadow Ball over Fire Blast, because you already have a bulky Fire type Pokemon that destroys all steel types and isn't afraid of paralysis i.e. Primal Groudon. As for the choice of Psystrike over Future Sight, well with all intents and purposes, Psystrike is the superior option as it attacks instantly. It also gives your Mewtwo an option to get past Sp. Defensive Pokemon. It's a great moves with zero drawbacks, go for it :)

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    Rayquaza @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Air Lock
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Dragon Ascent
    - Earthquake
    - Extreme Speed

    EarthQuake > Iron Head and Extreme Speed > Outrage
    Since you already have a speed boosting move, all you really need is more power (grrr), and that's where an adamant Nature comes in. You previous set for Rayquaza isn't half bad, but it does leave it walled by steel types. Earthquake allows you to hit steel types incredibly hard whilst having great coverage with the flying type move, Dragon Ascent. Iron Head isn't very important because a +1 Dragon Ascent will be destroying many fairy type Pokemon (lol). Outrage is only useful for KOing other dragon types and being locked into it can be detrimental to your teams success. It only takes 1 mistake for an opponent to gain the upper hand in back (but I'm sure you already know that ^^). I recommend Extreme Speed because priority attacks are too important to miss out on. Dragon Ascent will also be reducing your defences, so a smart opponent might try to use priority moves to KO Rayquaza. Extreme Speed allows you to always hit hard and faster then your opponent can, plus it has the bonus for being faster than Sucker Punch, so Sucker Punch always fails (lol).

    Those are the main recommendations I wish to tell you about, hope this helps and have a great day :)

    PS: Don't mind Lacus Clyne, with all due respect to him/her, some people have poor communication skills and fail to understand the boundaries between being useful and being plainly rude. All forums are like this at times so try to keep your cool and do not get upset. I also believe your annoyance at him/her may have disrupted your wording, hence you previously came across as a little adamant. We live and learn my friend, best of luck and have a great day :)
     
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  14. cries in vain

    cries in vain not a prayer unsung

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    is that a joke?custap hazards skarm in ubers?
    mmy sprite w/ lo?he needs a darkrai check
    also solid mega ray sprite
    lacus clyne was actually right u can't rly make this better w/o extensive restructuring
    also fam did u slowly walk up and call out a user 4 a 3 month old post
     
  15. Light Yagami (Anime Guy)

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    I've always assumed the reply button had a purpose... it's kinda hard to tell who you're talking to.
    In any case, I didn't know Lacus Clyne's reply was 3-4 months old. This thread was at the top of the list on the competitive battling category. So I assumed it was a new thread (which is usually the norm in most forums). Pokemon Online forum has a similar make-up to that of Smogons forum. I didn't know the threads weren't in any particular order.

    Anyways, my previous advice about people learning to develop "proper" communication skills still stands, and you're currently in the lacking department i.e. your text has a rude and needlessly aggressive tone to it.

    All I did was give an individual some advice. If you feel strongly against my opinions, then why don't you offer your own suggestions (without shutting down other peoples, it's common curtsey).

    PS: I replied to a 3-4 month post, big deal. For all you know that user was taking a 3-4 break from Pokemon Online. I've done something similar with Smogon (in preparation for exams etc). In any case, what's the harm in replying to a post that's only a few months old? I believe I know your type and I refuse to turn this minor scene into an award winning drama.

    Well I guess that's it, so goodbye and I wish you the very best in life.
     
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