[ORAS Ubers] Mega Salamence hyper offense.

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  1. G00GLE

    G00GLE G00GLE THE SEARCH ENGINE

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    Hello Guys its me @GRØÜDØÑÌTĒ and i am from @rainbow clan.This is my first RMT so please don't be too harsh on me.Be helpful to me.

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    Scolipede (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Protect
    - Pin Missile
    - Endeavor
    - Toxic Spikes

    Yeah The One of the best Hazard Setter is here to help our team.Can face Other Deoxys-S and the main thing is protect.I can kill them all by endeavor if attacks were to use.Mega Sableye Doesn't Matter for me.It will be a problem but still i can try to hazard.Thats all about this.

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    Primal Kyogre @ Blue Orb
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Origin Pulse
    - Ice Beam
    - Sleep Talk
    - Thunder

    Haha This guy is the best bulky SpAttacker i ever seen thats why it is on my team.Groudon seems better than this but if groudon is killed i don't need to worry.Sleep talk is to check Darkrai The Hypnosis god.The remaining attacks are useful if handled correctly.

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    Mega Salamence (M) @ Salamencite
    Trait: Intimidate (After used mega stone its ability becomes aeralite)
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Frustration
    - Earthquake
    - Roost

    Oh this guy ! the stallbreaker as well as a sweeper is here to make our team more powerful.It loves dancing in his dragon style and raises its Atk and speed.The frustration is there for bulky sweep as well as to deal Happiness Ditto.EQ Will done its work With his partner frustration.Roost Heals it well.

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    Ditto @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Imposter
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Hasty Nature
    - Transform
    - (No Move)
    - (No Move)
    - (No Move)

    OH Cmon this guy is the main one against Charging Hyper Offense Teams.Opponent Will be sweeped easily by this if they use a Charging Hyper Offense team.Bad Guys like Swords Dance Arceus,Geomancy Xerneas and Rock Polish Groudon sweeps my team well.I want to put a check to these things.With Choice scarf it can gain extra speed.

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    Xerneas @ Power Herb
    Trait: Fairy Aura
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Moonblast
    - Geomancy
    - Hidden Power [Ground]
    - Thunder

    Oh all knows about this i think.The Same Geo sweeper which 70% of PO uses it on ubers.I have Focus blast instead of HP-Ground before but the fool groudon and Aegislash sweeps it so i changed to HP-Ground but im still scared about ferrothorn.It can be killed by focus blast.I Hope still i can control it by something.

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    Arceus @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Extreme Speed
    - Shadow Claw
    - Swords Dance

    I love this extreme killer with its swords dance.Extreme speed can outspeed and can sweep.EQ does the same work to sweep.Shadow Claw is used here instead of stone edge to kill those giratina-O.I wanna sweep it because it is the most trolling thing for my team.

    THANK YOU. HOPE YOU GUYS WILL LIKE MY TEAM. DON'T FORGOT TO REPLAY AND SEND ME SOME TIPS TO IMPROVE THIS TEAM.
     
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  2. Edna

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    Er hi,
    Firstly I have to say that I'm not expert in HO Ubers in general but I still have some general knowledge so I'll try to give some tips:

    -Your only Groudon switchin is Salamence and in general the Twave Lava Plume SR set can deal you a lot of troubles, even to Kyogre who can get Twaved and thus crippled a lot. However if you want to deal better with Ferrothorn and Groudon ( and ultimately also have some hazard controll /it's a choice since it's HO/ ) I can advice you playing Giratina-O with Hidden Power Fire and Earth Power with possibly Substitute/Defog/Thunder Wave/Draco Meteor. This is purely a choice, you can run enough speed to speed creep Lugia, make it either Modest/Timid and rest in HP

    - Kyogre is cool but I think it's better if you should invest a little bit in HP and play Modest nature so you take more hits from non LO Thunder Darkrai with Sash ( Life Orb Thunder 2 hko's you) so I think it's better if you play Max HP max Spe atk modest instead
    +2 252 SpA Darkrai Thunder vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Primal Kyogre: 328-386 (81.1 - 95.5%)

    -If you set up with Xerneas and your opponent has Ditto, you are prone to lose the battle against it, and Moonblast deals nearly the same as HP ground on Groudon and Aegislash. My suggestion would be to play Substitute first, and to play either HP rock or HP fire depending on what causes you more problems: Ho-oh or Ferrothorn

    Xerneas @ Power Herb

    Trait: Fairy Aura

    EVs: 172 HP / 252 SAtk / 84 Spd


    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

    - Geomancy

    - Moonblast

    - Substitute

    - Hidden Power [Your Choice]


    Lastly, a nitpick, play relaxed nature 0 ivs on Ditto so if you have a dual Ditto vs Ditto you win

    I hope to have helped any little
     
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    Thank u Elize u helped me a lot and ill try it.Yes im going to try Modest nature Kyogre as u said.I think it is good.
     
  4. @IsaP

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    i would suggest you to ev split your xern, mine has as much speed as you need to outspeed mewtu, darkrai etc while sticky web after geomancy, which means 270 speed will do, rest on hp then
     
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    Thanks @IsaP I have a idea to use HP-Fire on Xerneas to kill ferrothorn as well as Aegislash.Groudon can be damaged by moonblast.
     
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    The team looks cool, i agree with what Elize said. You have made good progress, keep going!
     
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    G00GLE G00GLE THE SEARCH ENGINE

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    Thank You My Friend.Thanks for the support.I hope more members will like this team.
     
  8. Velvet Blood

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    May I suggest using deoxy-s over scolipede because magic bounce exists and deo-s can use skill swap to switch abilities and spread hazards over the field, and if not then use excadrill cause mold breaker.
     
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    Hmm actually Poke Expert is correct.Deo-S can Skill swap and hazard so i have a idea to change it.Ill think about it and thanks for giving me a great advice Poke Expert.
     
  10. Draciel

    Draciel ALLEZ! ALLEZ! ALLEZ!

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    Hi there, congratulations on your first RMT! I'm not a big fan of Ubers but I'll point out some flaws in the team:

    1) The Ditto spread your using isn't optimal, you should be using Relaxed nature with 248 HP/252 Def/8 SpDef with 0 speed IVs. 248 HP EVs are needed because HP is the only stat that isn't copied over when Ditto transforms; and 248 EVs give it Stealth Rock number so it can switch in 1 more time than it normally would be able to. Relaxed nature and 0 speed IVs means it can win vs. opposing Ditto in a 1v1 situation and 252 Def EVs allow it to prevail in Struggle war.

    2) Your Xerneas spread isn't good as well, you can use the spread Carl mentioned or an alternative spread with 200 def/56 speed (this allows it to tank MScizor Bullet punch and Arceus Espeed better). As for the fourth move, you can pick between Sub/HP Rock/Thunder/Focus blast: all are useful in specific situations so choose the one which your team would benefit the most from.

    3) Your team has absolutely no Ho-oH switchins, so I'd suggest getting a SR lead like Deo-S/Excadrill in place of Scolipede so that you can limit the number of times it can switch-in, or put pressure on the opposing team to defog/spin allowing you a free turn to setup.

    4) Some HP investment on Primal kyogre would be nice as Carl said, you can check Darkrai better that way.
     
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    Yes Draciel Thanks for the Advice.Yes i Added some HP to Kyogre and i love the ditto set that u said but HP-Rock On Xerneas seems bad.HP-Ground is bad too i think so im going to use HP-Fire to counter Ferro as well as aegislash.Groudon can be dealed by Xern Moonblast.Im going to take Scolipede out from my team and gonna put Deo-S as u guys said.It seems good.I can Counter Ho-Oh by this.Thank You Draciel
     
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    Guys this team is improved now as u guys Said

    Deoxys-S @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 128 HP / 128 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Skill Swap
    - Magic Coat
    - Taunt
    Salamence (M) @ Salamencite
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Frustration
    - Refresh
    - Roost
    Ditto @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Imposter
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
    Relaxed Nature
    - Transform
    - (No Move)
    - (No Move)
    - (No Move)
    Xerneas @ Power Herb
    Trait: Fairy Aura
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Moonblast
    - Geomancy
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Thunder
    Kyogre @ Blue Orb
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 72 HP / 180 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Origin Pulse
    - Ice Beam
    - Sleep Talk
    - Thunder
    Arceus @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Extreme Speed
    - Shadow Claw
    - Swords Dance
     
  13. Arthur Parks

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    Congrats on ur 1st RMT groudonite. Overall its a good team. Only thing I would suggest u to try for once rest on arceus supported by lum berry if it suits ur team.
     
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    Thanks arthur!!.IDK about it but ill try.Thanks for the bit advice.
     
  15. Lacus Clyne

    Lacus Clyne This might get unpleasant!

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    A rather interesting team. There are some things I wanna point out tho. First is that you aren't using SR. You can't break stall without rocks which I have proven you a lot of times in ladder. Next is P-Ogre. I don't really know why you are using it to be honest. I see sleep talk which means you basically want to check Darkrai but with Scolipede and Lum Arceus this is kinda questionable. Third thing is ditto. Why are you using ditto? Its not like you will lose against opposing HO teams so Ditto is also questionable. Last thing are the weird EV spreads. Things I would do in order to optimize the team.

    Also add an importable. It was a pain to transfer everything one by one.

    Set certain IVs on Scolipede down to zero. This will help u maximize the damage of endeavor.
    Change P-Ogre to a LO Taunt Mewtwo.
    Optimize the EVs on Mega Salamence to give it more damage output. Also changing Frustration to Double-Edge to get solid kills against stuff like Xerneas.
    Changing Ditto to a SpD Primal-Groudon with SR and D-Tail to outsmart opposing defogers.
    Optimize EVs on Xerneas. You don't need so much speed. Better invest it into the bulk. Also u need focus blast and I prefere HP Rock since it doesn't miss.
    Last thing is maybe changing Lum Berry from Arceus to LO. Lum is still cool tho so it really depends on you if you wanna do that. You can also make ur arceus bulky and adamant since u are using Lum.

    Scolipede @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Naive Nature
    IVs: 0 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpD
    - Toxic Spikes
    - Protect
    - Pin Missile
    - Endeavor

    Mewtwo @ Life Orb
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Taunt
    - Psystrike
    - Ice Beam
    - Focus Blast

    Salamence @ Salamencite
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 52 HP / 252 Atk / 204 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Double-Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Roost
    - Dragon Dance

    Groudon @ Red Orb
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 160 Atk / 248 SpD / 100 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Precipice Blades
    - Dragon Tail
    - Stone Edge

    Xerneas @ Power Herb
    Ability: Fairy Aura
    EVs: 180 HP / 28 Def / 252 SpA / 48 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Geomancy
    - Moonblast
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power [Rock]

    Arceus @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Multitype
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Extreme Speed
    - Shadow Claw
    - Earthquake

    Edit: Change Arceus to SD Arceus-Ghost to deal with spinners.
     
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