New Zygarde forms announced

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  1. Ortheore

    Ortheore One beautiful monster

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    Latest CoroCoro leaks are out and things are pretty interesting

    To the surprise of exactly no-one Zygarde is getting new forms! However the way these forms are being introduced is very interesting.

    It seems that Zygarde will consist of Core and multiple Cell forms merging together to give other complete forms. The Zygarde we all know and (don't) love it turns out is a form identified as being 50% (Zygarde 50% forme). A 10% form was announced, it looks like a dog and is said to have high speed. Lastly, a gigantic figure known as Zygarde perfect was announced. This form retains the Dragon/Ground typing and is apparently triggered when 50% Zygarde is unable to defeat an opponent. Its power is said to exceed that of Xern/Yveltal, and with Xern already causing controversy, this is sure gonna be interesting.

    Also Ash Greninja is apparently a thing but who gives a shit lol

    Source: http://www.serebii.net/pokemon/xyzforms.shtml

    Core
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    Cell
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    10%
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    Perfect
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    So what are your reactions to this?

    My first thought is that there are more Zygarde forms on the way. If I'm following this correctly then the more cells you merge with, the higher % the form. It wouldn't make sense to only have 10% and 50%, that would be silly, so I think there's still more to come.

    As for Zyg-P's statline and overall power, that I think is gonna be interesting, especially when coupled with the possibility that it only activates in-battle. If there is some condition required for mid-battle form shift I can envisage it being banned from OU because power, but useless in ubers because difficult. That said, we don't know what its power level will be like. Could we see some kind of stat line on par with MMetagross/MMence? If so, when coupled with DD and Coil I could easily seeing Zygarde being ridiculous. That said, this is all conjecture, but it's fun to speculate so w/e.

    Edit: Also don't forget that Zyg will likely be gaining access to those two signature moves that were discovered in X and Y. I don't remember their details, I'm gonna look em up

    Edit 2: Thousand Arrows (Ground 90bp 100%acc 10PP) Hits pokemon in the air and knocks them to the ground
    Thousand Waves (Ground 90bp 100%acc 10PP) Any Pokemon hit by this move can no longer flee battle
     
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  2. Nightfall Alicorn

    Nightfall Alicorn Left Pokémon Online, most likely not coming back.

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    That actually looks cool. :o Looking at the perfect form image, I'm going to guess it is weightless. I don't get the idea of cell and core since they look near the same though.
     
  3. Zoroark

    Zoroark Stay Firm Forum Moderator Server Moderator Forum Moderator Server Moderator

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    Obviously Zygarde Perfect Forme is the distant brother of Cell Perfect Forme.
     
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  4. Edna

    Edna Chasing the Dragon Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Another mon that will end up ubers with a shitty type
     
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  5. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    The fact that Xerneas kills both Yveltal and Zygarde, means there is literal no balance in the trio. That said, maybe Zygarde-P will have something that helps it overcome Xerneas.
     
  6. Casparov

    Casparov This is supposed to be a Medal!

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    Well Zygarde has Aura Break so it reverses the effects of Dark Aura and Fairy Aura. Meaning Xerneas and Yveltal will do less damage to it. So maybe Zygarde-P will be immune to Xerneas fairy and yveltal's dark attacks or something, same with P-Groundon and P-Kyogre. It will be interesting to see how it will turn out.
     
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    MAZINGA ZYGARDE
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    ah, Perfect Zygarde looks amazing

    Its been a while since I saw a pokemon and actually thought it was legendary. I hope Perfect Zygarde becomes as good as Primal Groudon or Mega Rayquaza, or better. About this whole 50% thing, I'm taking a guess once Zygarde regular (50%) is at like 1% health it transforms automatically, and possibly have an item to support it and maybe even restore its health. Im guessing Perfect Zygarde's ability is something like immune to super effective moves, so basically Wonder Guard, or is immune to all attacks besides something like another Zygarde.

    lol, but maybe its Mega Greninja, or some weird Zygarde powered Greninja
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    oh yeah, I hope Perfect Zygarde isnt some DLC, and if it is, it better be worldwide and not Japan exclusive. If it isnt DLC, does that mean a new pokemon game??
     
  9. Edna

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    The anime is now XY & Z. I guess Pokémon Z is going to be a thing
     
  10. Raducan

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    not a fan of this shit tbh

    I don't particularly like it when the forms deviate too much from the original 'mon. We'll see what this brings competitively though, hopefully something cool.
     
  11. sulcata

    sulcata stéphane curry best waifu Forum Moderator Server Administrator Forum Moderator Server Administrator

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    The final form seems cool. The rest seem like they'll be absolute shit statwise based on appearance. It seems like the other forms are only there to support an overly convoluted plotline.
     
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  12. Haze Victory

    Haze Victory Dem slumps..~

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    Yet another broken mon, yet another mid battle shift, yet another time Pokemon realized how shitty it was and took the Digimon approach.
    In all honesty, I hope this doesn't turn out to become another PDon with it's Mary Sue brokenness, with literally nothing going against it that didn't before, and I absolutely don't want to see this be any more broken than Mega Rayquaza (MRay was an April fool's joke, lol.)
    As for the design, it looks pretty cool, though if this turns out to be another Pdon, then rip Ubers.

    Anyway, was searching around for stats and came across this site with some cool info - http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/72489282
    It doesn't give out the stats, but may be interesting to some.
     
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  13. Edna

    Edna Chasing the Dragon Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    To be honest it looks more like Obelisk ( is this correct?)from yugioh, the blue god. Am i the only one to feel that? :v
     
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  14. Haze Victory

    Haze Victory Dem slumps..~

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    Now that you mention it, let's make a list of Yugioh creatures Pokemon copied XD?

    Anyway, am theorymoning Zygarde 10% is going to be another Mega Absol.
     
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    reminds me of 10%
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    Joyverse Back for a blast!

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    Yeah , let's!!!!

    But coming to doge zygarde.
    New broken AF DD sweeper?

    Lemme enter Norse mode and kinda try to clear out some things. Zygarde 10%/50%/100% all seem to represent Loki's offspring.
    10%- The Wolf, Fenrir. Might end with prankster IMO?
    50%- The Earth Serpent, Jormungandr.
    Well he formed a triad with the other two members of the Tree of Life. That would be the Astral Deer that apparently cannot be hunted (Xerneas) and the Blind Eagle who made it's nest atop the tree (Yveltal)
    100% - Probably... Hel. Loki's daughter who had superhuman strength.
    P.S I can't speel ert serpants :x
     
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  17. [OG]Swanna Lady

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    I hope Pokémon Z is a lot fuller than X + Y. They were just lackluster and felt........ empty.
     
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    I am totally against this
     
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    Joyverse Back for a blast!

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    Care to explain why my friend?
     
  20. Haze Victory

    Haze Victory Dem slumps..~

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    There needs no explaining. Pokemon doesn't need to be yet another 'transformation' game where we have this s#!t ton of dumb megas/ primals overpowering every meta.
     
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    -"There needs no explaining"
    - Explains why
     
  22. pokemonnerd

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    Pokemon is already a transformation game, a large percent of them literally transform into stronger forms as the game goes on. Not liking it because different legendary formes are being introduced is asinine and mildly hypocritical of liking the basic idea of the game.
     
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  23. Psychic Daryl

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    (Saw this in YouTube) Zygarde's Formes correspond to the forms of Cell from Dragon Ball Z. The theory is Zygarde-Core absorbs Zygarde-Cells until it reaches 50% Forme, similarly to how Cell absorbs life forms to get stronger. However, notice you see no Zygarde-Cells in Kalos. Remember how Cell could not reach Perfect Form until he absorbed Androids 17 and 18? Cell could have absorbed all life but probably could not have reached Perfect Form until he absorbed the Androids. Notice how Complete Zygarde has Xerneas and Yveltal wings. So when reaching 50% Forme, Zygarde probably has all the Zygarde-Cells in existence and the other half of the cells needed to reach Complete Forme are probably Xerneas and Yveltal.

    Does this make sense? I think it makes sense. Do you guys think it makes sense? I have no idea.