How to make po the pokemon simulator

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do you want free for all mode

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  1. styler

    styler Pichu lover

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    so today i was in the mindset of how to make po superior over PS and maybe even the actual game (minus that u dont need to train) and what i think we should do to achieve this is make a free for all mode this is a mode wich the community have wanted for very long and making this shouldnt be too much coding i think and it would make po the pokemon simulator
     
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    sulcata stéphane curry best waifu Forum Moderator Server Administrator Forum Moderator Server Administrator

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    By "free for all mode" do you mean the Anything Goes tier or the Hackmons and Balanced Hackmons tiers that were added a while ago? Or is it something else? We've had random matches since the beginning via the ladder function if that's what you're referring to.
     
  3. styler

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    Nope the modes name is free for all it doesnt actually refer to something in the mode its has about the same restrictions as ou but its four players all vs each other
    Id guess the the points u get most be based on where u place like the variations could be ex +10 +5 -5 -10 or something
     
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    sulcata stéphane curry best waifu Forum Moderator Server Administrator Forum Moderator Server Administrator

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    so you mean doubles with two players controlling each side, which is currently an idea that's marked as not getting added in one of the stickied threads due to the amount of coding needed and lack of anyone both skilled and motivated enough :x
     
  5. styler

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    Well this would be played with 4 fields 1 for each one and the argument for it not being a thing in the first play with new gamemodes is that it would split the playerbase this wouldnt we would just Gain a huge amount of players
     
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    hes right lets do it
     
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    What I believe they are getting at is a four-way match such as Super Smash Bros. It would be just like a regular tour sign-up but the top two placers would advance in the tour while the others are finished and in the ladder the winning team would get the most points while the second place team would get half of that. Third place would lose the same amount 2nd gained and last would lose the same as the winner gains. I honestly don't know how this would work at all if even possible but it could be something to look into as it could bump strategy up or it could just be a brawl and whoever wins is just lucky. I hope I helped with the understanding of the subject.
     
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    What I got from it was a 4 player match in which any one player is able to target any of the other three. Either way it sounds like its in a similar situation to Doubles, it'd need coding and nobody is really willing to sink that much time into it. I doubt it'd get that many more players to be quite honest. What's more likely to get players is a working webclient and/or a consistent and contemporary presence on YouTube via unaffiliated "YouTubers", but that's sort of derailing the conversation.
     
  9. styler

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    Well the demand is quite high maybe not on po but on PS some would kill for a ffa mode and the coding is to add 2 new Fields not the best at coding but that shouldnt be to hard right?
    And corbinj explained the points Gain/lose lovely good
    And i dont demand it right away but i would be very happy if u started it the eifeltower wasnt build over a night as to say
     
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    I'm pretty sure the code only allows for two battlers at the moment. Coding aside, which is still a huge deal, I don't see it being a successful game mode. Players tend to like their battles to maintain some sort of organization, and 4 players just sort of sounds like a clusterfuck. Not to mention that on a ladder clans will most likely start targeting those outside their group to maintain an advantage on the ladder. While this could be a server rule, it'd be hard to enforce and incredibly difficult to identify.

    There's also the issue that we'd literally have to start making up game mechanics while figuring out how to fit all that information on the screen.
     
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    Well okay first about the clusterfuck thats the fun thing tbh and clans couldnt do that too much as the mm would ofc be random and fitting it on the screen shouldnt be too hard its basically to add two trainers more and for pokes just look at how the Vgc screen is Buildt that moves like heat wawe affect everyone except u
    So to sum up the clusterfuck is what u seek for not fitting look Vgc screen and for making new mechanics that u wont have to do but if no one cant then dont :(
     
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    This sort of sounds like Protect+EQ/Blizzard/Surf would become the dominant strategy since Fake Out would be less useful with 4 players. With so many Pokemon packing these moves, games will probably only last 15-20 turns at most? Probably would also be determined by speed ties once the most potent users are discovered.

    Heat Wave and Lava Plume probably logically shouldn't hit all Pokemon since they both don't hit all the opponent's Pokemon depending on their positioning, that's what I mean by us having to make up mechanics.

    I mean if someone codes it and somehow manages to not break the rest of PO that's great, but this idea is essentially in the same boat as 4-player teams, a few people might like it, probably won't get played a lot, doesn't have an in-game precedent, and requires a lot of effort. In the context of "auto-reject ideas", this is unfortunately identical to the aforementioned mode of playing.
     
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    Ok ur in charge but about the set with eqs and surf and such dont work cuz spread move and u can just convince someone in chat to dont attack u and such and for lava plume and so then make Em hit 2 of ur choosing but i see ur point and give up sad face tho :(
     
  14. Fuzzysqurl

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    I'll take "Things more difficult to do than actually coding this clusterfuck" for 100.

    "dont atk pls"
    "Why?"
    "bcuz"
    "Because why?"
    "pls sir"
    "Too bad."
     
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    Yes this could happen but mayb u will have to come with a good argument like that zygarde is gonna set up a coil if u dont attack it
     
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    hes right lets do it
     
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    Listen to him he knows his shit (i think)
     
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    All I see here is coder bias and tyranny for not giving us this mode sooner. Be ashamed of yourselves.
     
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    then it wasnt only me ty for pointing it out
     
  20. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Ok Your Majesty, but I have more important things to break code break, like clan support, 12 new tiers, and the iOS app.
     
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    I guess its closed then Btw hows the ios app going underway?
     
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    Ok I'm getting bored of this now.

    It's evident the sticky of the section has not been read, so here is the relevant part.

    Thread title:
    Ideas that will be rejected - READ BEFORE POSTING!

    edit: didn't notice thread was locked rip. at least there's a more official end i guess
     
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