Hello, it's me Archerknight. :D Here I have presented you all with a NU ADV Speed Tier thread, for those keen NU ADV players, and the wanting-to-do NU ADV players! Natures that increase speed: Timid, Jolly, Hasty, Naive Need to explain 2 things: [0 Speed] These brackets indicate that EVERYTHING in the bracket has the same speed EV's. If Speed is NOT mentioned, then please assume it is full speed EV's Now to present: [secret] 552 - +2 Jolly Hitmonchan 502 - +2 Adamant Hitmonchan 483 - +1 Jolly Raticate 460 - +2 0 Speed Modest Luvdisc 439 - +1 Adamant Raticate 436 - +2 Timid Bellossom 418 - +1 Adamant Vigoroth 405 - [+1 160 Speed Timid Illumise / Timid Volbeat] 398 - +2 Modest Bellossom 392 - +2 Modest Tropius 380 - +2 72 Speed Mild / Lonely Seaking 375 - +1 208 Speed Jolly Mightyena 373 - +1 Adamant / Naughty Kingler 362 - +2 164 Speed Modest Huntail 342 - +2 60 Speed Modest Tangela 331 - +1 Jolly Pupitar 322 - Jolly Raticate / +2 220 Speed Timid Sunflora 317 - Timid Minun / Timid Haunter / Timid Plusle 309 - +1 0 Speed Careful Ledian / Jolly Murkrow / Jolly Pidgeot 306 - Jolly Venomoth 302 - +2 220 Speed Modest Sunflora 300 - +1 Adamant Pupitar 297 - 176 Speed Timid Minun / 208 Speed Jolly Pidgeot 295 - Jolly Aipom 293 - Adamant Raticate 289 - Modest Minun / Modest Haunter / Timid Plusle 284 - Jolly Hitmonchan / Naive / Hasty Glalie 281 - Adamant Pidgeot 279 - Adamant Venomoth / Adamant Vigoroth 273 - Jolly Beedrill 270 - [160 Speed Timid Illumise / Timid / Jolly Volbeat]208 Speed Adamant Pidgeot / 216 Speed Adamant Vigoroth 262 - Timid Butterfree / Timid / Jolly Noctowl 251 - Timid / Jolly Beautifly / Timid / Jolly Dustox / Adamant Hitmonchan 250 - 208 Speed Jolly Mightyena 249 - Adamant / Naughty Kingler 245 - 238 Speed Naughty / Rash Delibird 240 - Jolly Farfetch'd / Timid Masquerain / Timid / Jolly Spinda 239 - Adamant Noctowl 229 - Adamant / Modest Dustox / Jolly Cacturne / 252 Modest Roselia 223 - 228 Speed Timid Cacturne 221 - Jolly Pupitar 219 - Adamant Farfetch'd / Modest Masquerain 214 - Timid / Jolly Unown 206 - [0 Speed Modest Illumise / Careful / Calm Ledian / Adamant Volbeat] 203 - Naughty Huntail 201 - 140 Speed Naughty / Lonely / Modest Seviper / Adamant Pupitar 200 - 56 Speed Adamant / Naughty Kingler 199 - 108 Speed Adamant Seaking 195 - Adamant Unown 176 - [0 Speed Modest Castform / Bold / Impish Delcatty / Calm Dewgong / Calm Noctowl] 167 - 4 Speed Calm Roselia 166 - [0 Speed Modest Chimecho / Careful Dustox / Bold Pelliper / Calm Flareon] 156 - [0 Speed Modest / Bold / Quiet Wailord / Modest / Adamant Whiscash] 149 - 0 Speed Brave Flareon 146 - [0 Speed Adamant Crawdaunt / Impish Relicanth / Modest / Quiet Swalot] 140 - [0 Speed Bold Huntail / 0 Speed Brave Wailord / Relaxed Whiscash] 138 - 0 Speed Adamant Tropius 137 - 4 Speed Modest / Adamant Bellossom 136 - [0 Speed Calm Bellossom / Impish Mawile] 132 - 0 Speed Ditto 131 - [0 Speed Quiet Cacturne / Sassy Swalot 136 - 0 Speed Impish / Modest Wigglytuff 122 - [0 Speed Sassy Bellossom / Brave Piloswine] 118 - 88 Speed Careful / Adamant Lickitung 116 - [0 Speed Impish Ariados / Adamant / Careful Kecleon / Calm Togetic] 106 - 0 Speed Modest Corsola 104 - 0 Speed Sassy Togetic 102 - 24 Speed Adamant / Modest Parasect 097 - 4 Speed Adamant Parasect 096 - [0 Speed Adamant Lickitung / Modest / Bold Magcargo / Bold Nosepass / Adamant Sudowoodo / Calm Sunflora] 086 - [0 Speed Brave Magcargo / Relaxed Nosepass] 058 - 0 Speed Brave Lickitung (0 Spe IV's) 056 - 0 Speed Adamant Trapinch [/secret] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This has taken me a long time, so please play NU ADV, and use this to help you! Good Luck. Also, if you find any mistakes or suggestions, please feel free to post them here.
When you say, like, +2 Timid Bellossom, that assumes its got a +2 speed boost, correct? If so, I think it would be better off if you only said +1/+2 for the pokemon who get moves that boost their speed. We can all pass speed with Ariados/Beedrill/Aipom/Ledian, but if we assume that we are, why not just make +6 speed tiers, after all? Speed tiers aren't really useful for me (too complicated for my pea-sized brain :P), but I can appreciate the work that went into making this. Thanks archer!
Juggler, the ones I have put +1/+2 are the ones you are going to see in the NU adv tier, such as Salac Mightyena or Salac Raticate. +2 Normally means Swift Swim is active or Chylorophyll
Ah yes, sorry. I will add that. I went down a list of all NU pokémon. I must have missed it by accident
If A +1 raticate outspeeds a +2 luvdisc with 0 speed, you may want to add 48 speed +2 Luvdisc (or whatever the bare minimum is for raticate to outspeed +2luvdisc), so people know what to use when playing this metagames
Well, they can see the speed for luvdisc, and adjust the speed on their Raticate. Yes I could put it, but I think it is better for them to work that out.