[ORAS Ubers] The surprise from Planet Neptune

Discussion in 'Rate My Team' started by La.Neptune, Apr 25, 2015.

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What do you think is the most borken poke in ubers atm?

  1. Primal Groudon

    61.1%
  2. Mega Salamence

    16.7%
  3. Darkrai

    11.1%
  4. Arceus

    22.2%
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  1. La.Neptune

    La.Neptune Active Member

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    So hey guys i am here to share my ORAS Ubers team with you all and improve it.I peaked #2,1599 points with this team and then lost the matches because of hax and all.So i want to improve it and then maybe peak the Ubers with it.[P.S.-Sorry for my weird title,i always like Neptune :smile: XD]You can very well see in my team that i didn't used normal sets for some of my Pokemons[thats why many called me La.Noobtune :tongue:]but it really works if you predict and try to guess opponent's sets.Anyway here is my team:-

    Teambuilding process
    I wanted to build my team like a general type of teambuilding-physical defensive YvelGod and specially defensive PriDon.

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    Now i thought i needed another special defensive mon so i added Aegi.

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    I was one physical defensive mon support and peoples were just spamming RockCeus and GroundCeus and i needed Ho-oh Protection too so i added a bit unusual WaterCeus with Defog and WoW.

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    Now my WaterCeus couldn't touch Primal Groudons so i added Primal Kyogre.

    yveltal.gif groudon-primal.gif aegislash.gif arceus-water.gif kyogre-primal.gif

    It didn't helped much as my Waterceus generally died to PriDons so i added one MegaMence with defog to ease off the pressure from WaterCeus.

    yveltal.gif groudon-primal.gif aegislash.gif arceus-water.gif kyogre-primal.gif salamence-mega.gif

    Now Extremekiller was countered a lot more with MegaMence and WaterCeus so i took a huge risk and gave a Choice Specs to Yveltal.Primal Kyogre was also not helping much so i added a Scarf Darkrai.

    yveltal.gif aegislash.gif groudon-primal.gif arceus-water.gif darkrai.gif salamence-mega.gif

    So this is my final team.

    So now onto more details.

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    Darkrai @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Bad Dreams
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Dark Void
    - Trick
    - Dark Pulse
    - Sludge Bomb/Ice Beam

    Darkrai with scarf is not so common in ORAS and people generally want to sleep this thing with opposig Darkrai but gets sleeping their darkrai instead[not counting dark void miss hax].When i see some Stalling Pokes like chansey or lugia or klefki i just trick and make them totally dead.Dark pulse for a bit of flinch hax[joking lol its for STAB] and for last move i generally swtch time to time as sludge bomb kills fairies and Ice Beam kills Yveltal and some birds although it doesn't do enough damage without a Life Orb boost.I run a timid nature because i generally want to trick its item away so to always keep max speed.

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    Yveltal @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Dark Aura
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
    - Dark Pulse
    - Oblivion Wing/Hurricane
    - Sucker Punch
    - U-turn/Foul Play

    This is my real surprise.People think its a normal Yveltal Defensive thing so they bring their Pri-Dons or Yveltals but generally get 2HKO'D by its moves.Dark Pulse hits like a truck and 2HKO's even those annoying klefki's.Hurricane if you want some hax and Foul Play if you want extra protecting against Extremekillers.Sucker Punch to have some priority and U-Turn for scouting when you cant risk it against a Xerneas.Rash nature so that its defense doesn't get lowered and it can survive Extremespeeds.

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    Groudon @ Red Orb
    Trait: Drought
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Thunder Wave
    - Lava Plume
    - Precipice Blades

    The generaly Sp.Defensive PriDon.Not much to explain.Stealth rocks for hazards,Lava Plume to burn hax.Precimiss Blades are a lot powerful than Earthquakes and Thunder Wave to cripple foes as this thing got very low speed.

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    Salamence (F) @ Salamencite
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 248 HP / 180 Def / 80 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Refresh
    - Roost
    - Defog
    - Body Slam

    A highly unusual set.People generally think this is D-dancing thing and bring Yveltal and all but end up complaining about Para Hax.Refresh so that it doesnt gets para by PriDons,Defog to clear entry hazards and roost for some help.Actually it tanks Extremekillers and PriDon and it is a very nice surprise bomb[atleast in my team].For the EV's i dont know much as i took it from a smogon DPP salamence set but it kinda works.

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    Aegislash (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Stance Change
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
    IVs: 0 Spd
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Toxic
    - Shadow Ball
    - King's Shield
    - Gyro Ball

    Another Specially Defensive thing.Basic Aegi set for killing GeoXern and to spread some toxic stuff.0 speed to power up gyro ball.And shadow ball for some STAB.

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    Arceus-Water @ Splash Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Spd
    IVs: 0 Atk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Judgment
    - Earth Power
    - Recover
    - Will-O-Wisp

    After i gave defog to MegaMence this enabled a move to clear from this WaterCeus so i added Earth Power to kill PriDons thinking that they can wall this set.Ev's for physical bulk and WoW to cripple them even more.

    THREATLIST

    Extremekiller-Its a nice threat to this team as i don't have a proper check to it.But most run Espeed StoneEdge and Equake so a good prediction consisting of Aegi,megaMence and waterceus can kill it but i need to spread some Status first to it.Otherwise it generally gets 2HKO'd by yveltal Dark Pulse.

    Ho-oh-Not a threat anymore because i added WaterCeus which 2HKO's it but still its annoying.

    Thanks my frnds for helping me with this team and please rate it XD.

    Importable..
    Yveltal @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Dark Aura
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
    - Dark Pulse
    - Oblivion Wing
    - Sucker Punch
    - U-turn

    Aegislash (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Stance Change
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
    IVs: 0 Spd
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Toxic
    - Shadow Ball
    - King's Shield
    - Gyro Ball

    Salamence (F) @ Salamencite
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 248 HP / 180 Def / 80 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Refresh
    - Roost
    - Defog
    - Body Slam

    Darkrai @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Bad Dreams
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Dark Void
    - Trick
    - Dark Pulse
    - Sludge Bomb

    Groudon @ Red Orb
    Trait: Drought
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Thunder Wave
    - Lava Plume
    - Precipice Blades

    Arceus-Water @ Splash Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Spd
    IVs: 0 Atk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Judgment
    - Earth Power
    - Recover
    - Will-O-Wisp
     
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  2. Sam Holmes

    Sam Holmes Sword Of The Morning

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    Quite better. But I'd prefer double edge/return of megamence build. Body slam ain't that great.
     
  3. Ramiel

    Ramiel On our backs. In our hearts.

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    Primal Kyogre will literally rip through this team especially when paired up with a Mega Gengar, as Primal Don seems to be your only check. And if there's one thing Pdon is good at, it's getting worn down with its lack of recovery.

    To remedy this, try using a Specially Defensive Ferrothorn instead of Aegislash. Honestly, I have no idea what it's doing on your team, as it's a P Ogre bait and Pdon normally takes care of GeoXern. This way, you can keep PDon safe for opposing Xerneas, while keeping Ferro alive for Primal Kyogre.

    Ferro shares the same Ho-oh weakness with Aegi, but with Leech Seed, it becomes much easier to wall it using WaterCeus as it gives partial recovery. How many times were you dismayed after Ho-oh came on Aegi while you toxic'd, Burnt your Waterceus as you swapped out, and recovered whatever damage it took via Regenerator? Leech Seed helps a lot with such as it keeps Waterceus much more healthy.

    Also, the spikes support it provides are pivotal for your team, as your team focuses on Balance - meaning you'll be forcing out mons much more often than say, Offense. It's also notable that Ferro beats most defoggers in the tier. And unlike Aegislash which means you only 4hko opposing Klefki while getting para'd and 3 spikes on your field, you suck its life dry with Seed + Gyro while getting your hazards up as well.

    Lastly, it deals with Extremekiller a lot better, as it's not weak to EQ and has plenty of Def. It will at least dent it via Gyro+Seed before dying.

    Another contender is a Latias. It 2hkos Ho-oh with Psyshock so they can't mindlessly swap in, and let you still have a more reliable answer to Primal Ogre. You'll be a bit weak to opposing Lati's though. However, you do have 2 formidable dark types that check them nicely, so it's still a good choice. Better than Aegislash in any case. It also nullifies your immense weakness to Double Dance Pdon, which is another thing that wrecks your team.

    Using Latias with Defog means you can use Mence as a sweeper - which is one thing you could use for the team.

    Also, I don't get what you mean by Specs Yveltal 2hkoing Klefki :v

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Dark Aura Yveltal Dark Pulse vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Klefki: 114-135 (35.9 - 42.5%) -- 95.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


    Some other nitpickings:
    1. No need to have Sucker on Yveltal. Choiced Sucker is a horrid choice for any mon, even something as good as YGod. Try using Knock Off instead. It makes Klefki a lot less annoying, nerfs down Ho-oh by a lot by getting rid of their LO/Band, as well as RestTalk Xerneas. It's also a generally spammable move as well. Sleep Talk is a contender for the last slot too, for contingency if the opposing player chooses to not lead with Drai or your Void misses.

    2. 184 speed on Yvel. You don't need more than that as it outpaces base neutral base 90s. Put rest into Def.

    3. Ice Beam>Earth Power on Waterceus. Otherwise your entire team gets steamrolled by Refresh DD Roost Return Mence. If you take up my Latias suggestion, Groudon becomes a lot easier to beat anyways.

    Another note: Pdon lacks 4 EVs.

    Hope I helped. Good luck n_n
     
  4. [OG]Swanna Lady

    [OG]Swanna Lady New Member

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    After using this team for a while I think the best pokemon you have for sweeping is probably Yveltal.

    Also, Aegislash is pretty much useless on this team. It does nothing and can't rack up significant damage without any attack EV's. I'd say that Latias is by far the best pokemon to use instead except it does make the team a bit weak to Kyurem-W if Pdon is down.

    And Aegislash is missing 4 EVs
     
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