[ORAS] ORAS UU Speed Tiers

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  1. Just Do It

    Just Do It No one cares

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    [​IMG]ORAS UU Speed Tiers [​IMG]



    Here are the updated Speed Tiers for ORAS UU! This should be very helpful for team-building.
    If you notice that something is missing, please feel free to post about it so we can keep the list up-to-date.

    & thanks for your old guide @Insane Soul


    StatPokemon[​IMG]Base StatEVs/NatureVariable
    >600     
    618Mega Sharpedo[​IMG]105252++2 (Speed Boost)
    500-599     
    590Kingdra[​IMG]85252++2 (Swift Swim)
    578Sharpedo[​IMG]95252+2 (Speed Boost)
    568Kabutops[​IMG]80252++2 (Swift Swim)
    558Porygon-Z[​IMG]90252+2 (Agility)
    541Raikou[​IMG]115252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    538Kingdra[​IMG]85252+2 (Swift Swim)
    534Slurpuff[​IMG]72252++2 (Unburden)
    524Ludicolo, Cloyster, Mega Swampert[​IMG]
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    70252++2 (Swift Swim, Shell Smash)
    518Kabutops[​IMG]80252+2 (Swift Swim)
    508Mienshao[​IMG]105252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    400-499     
    492Victini, Salamence, Celebi, Flygon, Shaymin[​IMG]
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    100252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    486Slurpuff[​IMG]72252+2 (Unburden)
    486Hydreigon[​IMG]98252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    483Haxorus[​IMG]97252++1 (Dragon Dance)
    478Ludicolo, Cloyster, Mega Swampert[​IMG]
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    70252+2 (Swift Swim, Shell Smash)
    475Darmanitan[​IMG]95252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    466Krookodile[​IMG]92252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    463Mega Sharpedo[​IMG]105252+1 (Speed Boost)
    459Porygon-Z, Venomoth[​IMG]
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    90252++1 (Choice Scarf, Quiver Dance)
    448Victini, Salamence, Celebi, Flygon, Shaymin[​IMG]
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    100252+1 (Choice Scarf)
    447Rotom-H, Rotom-C[​IMG]
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    86252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    442Nidoking, Heracross[​IMG]
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    85252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    442Hydreigon[​IMG]98252+1 (Choice Scarf)
    439Haxorus[​IMG]97252+1 (Dragon Dance)
    438Empoleon[​IMG]60252+2 (Agility)
    438Mega Aerodactyl[​IMG]150252++0
    433Darmanitan[​IMG]95252+1 (Choice Scarf)
    427Mega Beedrill, Mega Sceptile[​IMG]
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    145252++0
    426Chandelure[​IMG]80252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    424Krookodile[​IMG]92252+1 (Choice Scarf)
    420Feraligatr[​IMG]78252++1 (Dragon Dance)
    406Rotom-H, Rotom-C[​IMG]
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    86252+1 (Choice Scarf)
    403Nidoking, Heracross[​IMG]
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    85252+1 (Choice Scarf)
    300-399     
    399Mega Aerodactyl[​IMG] 150252+0
    398Aggron, Mega Aggron[​IMG]
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    50252+2 (Rock Polish)
    394Crobat, Aerodactyl[​IMG]
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    130252++0
    393Magneton[​IMG] 70252++1 (Choice Scarf)
    392Rhyperior[​IMG] 40252++2 (Rock Polish)
    389Mega Beedrill, Mega Sceptile[​IMG]
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    145252+0
    388Chandelure[​IMG] 80252+1 (Choice Scarf)
    383Noivern[​IMG] 123252++0
    375Mega Pidgeot[​IMG] 121252++0
    372Dugtrio, Alakazam[​IMG]
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    120252++0
    361Raikou, Azelf, Mega Absol, Mega Houndoom[​IMG]
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    115252++0
    359Crobat[​IMG] 130252+0
    358Magneton[​IMG] 70252+1 (Choice Scarf)
    354Scrafty[​IMG] 58252++1 (Dragon Dance)
    348Durant[​IMG] 109252++0
    346Galvantula, Infernape, Cobalion[​IMG]
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    108252++0
    345Noivern[​IMG] 123252+0
    339Mienshao, Mega Sharpedo[​IMG]
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    105252++0
    339Alakazam[​IMG] 120252+0
    328Victini, Salamence, Celebi, Flygon, Shaymin, Ninetales, Mega Glalie[​IMG]
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    100252++0
    324Hydreigon[​IMG] 98252++0
    322Haxorus[​IMG] 97252++0
    317Darmanitan, Arcanine, Kyurem, Houndoom[​IMG]
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    95252++0
    313Krookodile[​IMG] 92252++0
    309Mega Sharpedo[​IMG] 105252+0
    306Lucario, Roserade, Meloetta, Porygon-Z, Venomoth[​IMG]
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    90252++0
    200-299     
    299Victini, Celebi, Entei[​IMG]
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    100252+0
    296Crobat[​IMG] 130 +0
    295Hydreigon[​IMG] 98252+0
    295Toxicroak, Kingdra, Nidoking, Suicune, Heracross[​IMG]
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    85252++0
    293Haxorus[​IMG] 97252+0
    289Darmanitan, Arcanine, Sharpedo[​IMG]
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    95252+0
    284Chandelure[​IMG]80252++0
    283Krookodile[​IMG] 92252+0
    280Feraligatr[​IMG]
    78252++0
    279Lucario, Porygon-Z[​IMG]
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    90252+0
    273Absol, Smeargle[​IMG]
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    75252++0
    271Rotom-H, Rotom-C[​IMG]
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    86252+0
    269Toxicroak, Kingdra, Nidoking, Suicune, Heracross[​IMG]
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    85252+0
    265Honchkrow, Tyrantrum[​IMG] [​IMG]71252++0
    262Ludicolo, Cloyster, Mega Swampert, Politoed, Magneton[​IMG]
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    70252++0
    259Chandelure[​IMG]80252+0
    255Feraligatr, Mega Blastoise[​IMG]
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    78252+0
    249Absol[​IMG] 75252+0
    241Honchkrow, Tyrantrum[​IMG][​IMG] 71252+0
    239Ludicolo, Cloyster, Mega Swampert, Politoed, Magneton[​IMG]
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    70252+0
    236Jirachi, Celebi[​IMG]
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    100 +0
    236Scrafty[​IMG] 58252++0
    229Arcanine[​IMG]95 +0
    219Empoleon[​IMG] 60252+0
    208Rotom-H[​IMG] 86 +0
    206Suicune[​IMG] 85 +0
    100-199     
    199Aggron, Mawile[​IMG]
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    50252+0
    196Rhyperior[​IMG] 40252++0
    192Mega Blastoise[​IMG] 78 +0
    188Nidoqueen[​IMG] 76 +0
    186Florges, Klefki, Mega Banette[​IMG]
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    75 +0
    166Vaporeon, Alomomola, Umbreon[​IMG]
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    65 +0
    164Chesnaught[​IMG] 64 +0
    156Empoleon, Porygon2, Swampert, Jellicent, Abomasnow[​IMG]
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    60 +0
    152Scrafty[​IMG] 58 +0
    146Blissey, Machamp, Ampharos[​IMG]
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    55 +0
    136Donphan, Aggron, Mawile, Mega Audino[​IMG]
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    50 +0
    130Hippowdon[​IMG] 47 +0
    126Mega Ampharos[​IMG] 45 +0
    116Forretress, Rhyperior, Camerupt[​IMG]
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    40 +0
    112Porygon2[​IMG] 60 -0 (0 IVs)
    106Doublade, Quagsire, Spiritomb[​IMG]
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    35 +0
    102Bronzong[​IMG] 33 +0
    <99     
    96Snorlax, Cofagrigus, Steelix, Slowking, Mega Abomasnow, Mega Steelix[​IMG]
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    30 +0
    76Forretress, Rhyperior[​IMG]
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    40 -0 (0 IVs)
    76Escavalier, Mega Camerupt[​IMG]
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    20 +0
    67Doublade[​IMG] 35 -0 (0 IVs)
    63Bronzong[​IMG] 33 -0 (0 IVs)
    58Cofagrigus, Steelix, Slowking, Mega Abomasnow, Mega Steelix[​IMG]
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    30 -0 (o IVs)
     
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  2. snaga

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    This looks really good, it is missing mamoswine tho.

    and pelliper
     
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    Mamoswine added.
     
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  4. gengar17

    gengar17 someone turn this nothing into gengar

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    good job :) maybe add salac chesnaught ?
     
  5. Just Do It

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    Removed:
    Togekiss, Mamoswine, Crawdaunt, Weavile & Starmie duo to their bans/usage.
     
  6. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Noticed a couple minor problems on a quick read through;

    Jolly Salamence, Victini etc hit 328 Speed, not 329. 0 Speed Rotom-H hits 208, and it's Florges, not Florgess. Yay typos?
     
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    Fixed it.
     
  8. Froggy

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    This is impressive! I was thrilled when the original list was compilled back in xy gen, but now it looks way more official. Good work!

    Small clean up thing i noticed, 136 Mega Audino is missing its picture, which isnt even that important I will look more indetail into things as I get back into playing more.

    Keep up the good work!
     
  9. Draciel

    Draciel ALLEZ! ALLEZ! ALLEZ!

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    Updated this because @NananaBatman requested, let me know if i missed anything!
     
  10. Yes.

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    This is looking very nice. Whimsicott and Tornadus (both regular, and +2 because of Tailwind support), Tyrantrum +2 or +1 maybe? I don't like Dragon Dance sets tbh (is ok to consider, though), Rock Polish is really cool to use overall. Heliolisk, Metagross, Mandibuzz and Zoroark should be added there too.
     
  11. confide

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    yo why is there no shedinja !_!
     
  12. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    ^Likely because Shedinja's all but inviable in NU, forget UU. Speed tiers are generally for relevant pokemon in the tier, not ones that see less than 0.5% usage.
     
  13. confide

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    i never knew something that walls 1/3 of the tier is irrelevant but ok :(
     
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    It might wall a large amount of the tier, yes, but the difficulty of simply getting it onto the battlefield is what makes it so irrelevant. Between Stealth Rock, Spikes, randomly being statused, and unexpected damage from the likes of the Rocky Helmet, it's too high maintenance to be considered viable.
     
  15. confide

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    i forgot hazard removal doesnt exist xD
    and shedinja usually runs protect to scout for status moves
    but idk man im just a new member my opinion doesnt matter :/
     
  16. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter; opinions are always appreciated. I'm saying Shedinja's basically inviable. In exchange for immunity to several types, you need to keep hazards off the field, remove any chance of it getting statused, bring it in against something that literally cannot touch it - difficult with Knock Off everywhere - and the payout for such a high risk is really not worth it.

    Much as I love Sheddy, I doubt he's worth listing on a Speed tiers thing anywhere outside of NU.