Co-op battles

Discussion in 'Simulator Suggestions' started by The Twilight Storm, Apr 27, 2010.

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  1. The Twilight Storm

    The Twilight Storm New Member

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    2v2

    Didn't really think about this until now, but Player/Player VS Player/Player and Player (2 pokemon) VS Player (2 pokemon) would be cool. :D Please?
     
  2. zeroality

    zeroality Artificial Insanity

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    This was mentioned in the ToDo List thread (well, it was about 2v2 - not player/player vs player/player).

    You can do 2 Pokemon vs 2 Pokemon already though. PO does not require a full team of 6 Pokemon to battle.
     
  3. King.Arthur

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    Dual dobble battle

    well my idea is to create a battle Dobble 2x2, or two players against two players in one window, to give a better example, type

    Me and Steve VS DN and Coyotte
     
  4. Lutra

    Lutra All Gen Battler/Scripter

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    Just out of interest, if this were to implemented, how would it even work? Would you just start a 2vs2 match and be able to invite someone to take control of one side of your pokemon? Or would there be some kind of mode where you are able to join in groups of 2 as challengers/challengee for 2vs2? Like you request someone to join - they have the option whether to accept or not. Then you can challenge other pairs with the partner accepting and both of them have to accept the challenge in order for you all to enter battle. Seems quite a complex task.
     
  5. Kioku

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    4 player tag 2 vs. 2 matches would be interesting. The only problem I can think of would be if your partner decides to intentionally lose. If people have to join up as a team, it'd make sense. Though I have to say, I don't think this would be a very high priority.
     
  6. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Well-Known Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    Don't worry on how to implement this, I think if I decide to do this I'll find a way. Thing is, i'm not really wanting to do that right now and kinda busy.
     
  7. Akusu

    Akusu Guest

    This is something to me that should wait until doubles matures a bit. There's definitely at least a few UI issues and still plenty of logic problems that are being reported.

    There's really not a whole lot that would complicate going from doubles to team doubles client-wise, but things like turn order, the fact that eliminating one players team prematurely leaves them with only one pokemon for the rest of the match and the possible complications involved in the queuing are significant enough.
     
  8. Knots the Notorious

    Knots the Notorious aka Gary Oak from HC

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    If 2v2 doubles was implemented, I think people would probably have to team up to do ladder games. The devs would have to implement a party system, which I think would be pretty neat. This party system would carry over into challenges. Likely the party would be shown as one name in the list of active players, and the party leader would be in charge of sending out challenges or starting a search on the ladder.

    As this sim gets more and more popular, I think the devs should start looking into playlists like we see in online console games like Halo, Gears of War, and Call of Duty, much like how we already have tiers separated. I may make a separate thread about this, as it seems to be the smartest way to set up the "find battles" situation, which I know has been changing a lot because we haven't hit that sweet spot yet. I'd also like to see the ability to search all "playlists" and the ability to select a team tailored for each playlist (which fixes the current difficulties people are having finding matches that aren't singles OU.)

    As for how it would "work", every player would have a team of six pokemon. Each team would be shown the other side's pokemon like in Stadium/Battle Revolution, and then each player would pick three of their pokes to use. The first pokemon they pick would be their lead, and then the other two would be their benched pokes. We'd need two chat boxes on the interface to let players work out their strategies. I see no problem with 2v1 also working this way.
     
  9. Randfeon

    Randfeon New Member

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    Probably something like how they worked on RSbot - You choose your partner and your two opponents at the same time, and the challenge is issued to everyone you chose.
    If this were to be implemented, the best way would probably be having an extra window to choose who would play with you or something like that. Maybe a "Challenge to a 4-players double battle" option on the left click menu.

    I have no idea of how the ladder would work on this kind of battle, though.
     
  10. SacredFire

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    2-on-2 Multi-Battles!

    This is a feature that many people would enjoy, especially those who've made good friends on Pokemon Online or showed it to a friend who then got into it.

    Multi-battles! Three Pokemon each for four people, two to a team, battlin' with your bud or a random person!

    The way it would work is, you could challenge someone to a Multi-battle, and if you did you'd have to find a battling partner, either by inviting someone or using a 'Find Partner' button which automatically invites someone in the same way that the Find Battle feature works.

    You would choose three Pokemon out of your loaded team, and your partner would do the same, and then things would proceed as a Multi-Battle just as in the DS games.

    If you included this I would NOT stop playing. It'd be so epic, and I know that many people on the Beta server agree with me.
     
  11. Professor Oak

    Professor Oak same Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep

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    This has been suggested far far far far far far far far far far far far FAR too many times.

    Suggesting it again will not make it appear any faster.

    Topic locked.
     
  12. Jedgi

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    Co-Op Doubles

    How about implementing Co-Op doubles so 4 people can battle at once? It would be a fun idea. Kind of like the HG/SS 2v2, each player has 3 pokemon.
     
  13. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon is an espeon.

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    Possible, but not at all a priority and not too simple. Suggested and discussed at least once a week since PO became popular, so closing as a duplicate suggestion.
     
  14. Drumguy92

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    Tag Team Doubles!

    Hey guys! i have a great idea! what about tag team doubles!
    By tag team doubles i mean that you and a random player of PO battle together against 2 other foe's. this is a great idea also for tournaments!
    well hope you accept this idea!
     
  15. meztips

    meztips The name is Bond.

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    There's a tournament idea thread for this. This isn't even in the right forum.
     
  16. Akusu

    Akusu Guest

    This has been mentioned before and the logistics are such that it isn't in the cards any time soon.
     
  17. Drumguy92

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    damn -.-' but this is not the suggestion thingy? sorry for wasting your time :(
     
  18. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Well-Known Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    It's just suggested around once per week, or more often.

    Locked.
     
  19. 5P33D5

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    Team Double battles perhaps...?

    I was wondering if it would be possible to have Team double battles where its 2 people vs. 2 other people.

    Its only a suggestion and I don't know if its possible or how practical it would be..
     
  20. Crystal Moogle

    Crystal Moogle Ayaya~ Administrator Administrator

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    This has been suggest thousands of times before
     
  21. 5P33D5

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    oh sorry... haven't been paying attention >_> maybe I should just stick to the Scripts only >_>
     
  22. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon is an espeon.

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    Duplicate suggestion, locked.
     
  23. trumon

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    Hi everybody this is my first post here.
    My suggestion is to (if possible) add a coop battle mode, like in diamond and pearl in which 2 couples of trainers battle in teams in a double battle...maybe 5th gen also added the same idea but with triple battles idk...
    but anyway, it would be an interesting interactive mode to play cause this would encourage trainer-trainer synergy rather than pokemon-pokemon in a team.
     
  24. Weavile

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    This has been suggested a few times and it just isn't possible
     
  25. Crystal Moogle

    Crystal Moogle Ayaya~ Administrator Administrator

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    Way too many times...
    Locking
     
  26. Mattstah

    Mattstah Emotional Sickness

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    Tag Battles

    I dunno if this is possible, or if it's been suggested.

    So I suggest that in a two-on-two battle, we actually do two people vs. two people. We can even have a pair of Gym Leaders for Doubles.

    Just a suggestion.
     
  27. destinybond

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    like this?
    or this?

    this has been suggested many times before, please check the past threads before you post one
     
  28. Tachyon

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    Couples & Trios battle tiers suggestion

    a little idea that I think would really give the game a new flavor is a"Couples" tier and a "Trios" tier.
    In "Couples tier" (unlike in double battles), will be 4 human players (will be referred from now as 4 trainers),
    each having only 1 pokemon out at any given time.
    with 2 pokemon on each side (like in double battles).

    The game mechanics will be just like in double battles,
    but only the pokemon's individual trainer could commands a move or a switch.
    A pokemon would only be switchable with another pokemon of the same trainer.
    (not sure if to allow 2 pokemon of the same trainer out, when it's partner's entire party in fainted)

    Same principal with "Trio" battles.
    (lol, 6 trainers in 1 battle)

    Rank points will be shared equally (like EXP points ^^).

    Might want to limit the general number of pokemon participators (at the entire battle) from each trainer's party.
    (just imagine a 36 mons battle...)
     
  29. PhoenixClaw

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    Regarding the limitations of Pokemon participators, I'd say 3 per trainer for Doubles and 2 per trainer for Triples.

    So you're essentially asking for a Tag Battle, similar to how DPPt had you pair up with other trainers at certain parts? That'd be kinda cool.

    You could even have an awesome 'Waiting for Battle Partner' message come up as you wait for a buddy. ^_^
     
  30. Mystra

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    I think it was suggested before.
     
  31. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon is an espeon.

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    yes, at least 5 times before.
     
  32. RoobuShinporah

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    Double Battles.

    Double battles with four person? I think it's great.
     
  33. Lamperi

    Lamperi I see what you did there

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  34. Blitzamirin

    Blitzamirin Waluigi! Number one!

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    Tier or Tournament: Mix Battle

    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mix_Battle

    "Mix Battle" is a battle mode found in Gen IV. This mode consisted of each (you and your opponent) to pick 3 Pokemon from your team. However, there was a catch: You had to take one Poke from your opponent and your opponent had to take one from you.

    Questions trying to be answered:
    -Can you hinder your opponent's team by removing Pokemon X as a potential hindrance/counter to a team member or your team?
    -Can you take advantage of the Pokemon you obtained in question?
    -Can you adapt without a possibly potential teammate?
    -Can tactful and smart decisions in deciding team members decide the outcome of the match?
    +All of these questions are also applied to the opponent's perspective.

    Mix Battle can be played exactly as it was intended, or undergo modification (such as 6 team members, and 2 "swaps").

    I would like to hear comments and feedback about this.

    Thank you for your time.
     
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  35. Hobbes2

    Hobbes2 Aren't I dead or something

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    6 team members, 2 swaps sounds better than 3 for 1.

    a few problems may arise with this tier / tour

    1) People could use noob pokemon like magikarp and give those to your opponent.
    2) You say you want to trade your swampert for their Gallade, but they say they want to trade their Gallade for your Infernape. What do?
    3) is this possible to script?

    Yeah, good idea, but if anything, this is probably best for a tour.
     
  36. Blitzamirin

    Blitzamirin Waluigi! Number one!

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    I think I screwed up myself.

    Here are the general rules, taken from Bulbapedia (I'm terrible at explaining):
    What I meant was:
    1. Player A and B get 3 Pokemon from their own party.
    2. Player A takes a Pokemon from Player B, and vice versa.

    There are no trades, iirc:
    [video=youtube;qeO8OxQXqNM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeO8OxQXqNM[/video]

    In the battle above, (although not the best quality), player A gets Electivire from Player B, and Player B gets Charizard from Player A.

    I hope it's more clear now. ._.
     
  37. PichiTheShinyPichu

    PichiTheShinyPichu I'm not amused

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    While I love the idea of bring Mix Battles back, I can really only see this possible as a tournament.
     
  38. ASH_CHAMPION

    ASH_CHAMPION A very useless person~

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    How exactly do you plan on implementing this?
     
  39. Lamperi

    Lamperi I see what you did there

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    This is on simulator suggestions forum. Maybe he is proposing to add this kind of battle mode into Pokemon Online?
     
  40. Blitzamirin

    Blitzamirin Waluigi! Number one!

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    Well, that is what I'm proposing.

    I was going to put a poll wether it was better as a tier or a tournament, but I screwed up (so I don't know how).
     
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