It is now time for the ultimate showdown between the over-powered male and dense idiot. There is one undecided contest that both these types claim to hold: best harem lead. Can the idiot's lovable denseness overcome the sheer badassery of the OP guy? Or will the girls finally rise up and say they've had enough? Only time will tell in the FIRST EVER HAREM MAFIA! Sign Ups It is now day 3. 72 hour days, 48 hour nights. Vote count will be taken once every 24 hours unless requested. Do not quote role pms. Each faction wins when all opposing threats are eliminated. Players will be prodded at 24 hours inactivity, removed at 48. No editing posts. No dead talking. No outside contact of any kind for any faction. DO NOT POST IF YOU ARE NOT IN THIS GAME! Player list: Whereabouts Unknown Michu [Lynched Day 2: OP Lead] - OP Harem Cheezeburgar Nitrogen [Lynched Day 1: Kamidere] - Town Dreams [White Flag Night 3: Yandere] - OP Harem ajhockeystar [Lynched Day 2: Tsundere2] - Town Pyanda Marley Rose Latimaster Fiery Espeon
vote Whereabouts Unknown I know where you are. Also might as well carry on with the tradition of voting new people first :P
Oh, does putting on a cute face help you cope with the stupidity of your logic? I see. It's quite impolite to impose the deficiencies of your personal fragility onto others, but it's not like I'm going to vote you for a petty reason like that. Unfortunately for you however, I can't stand cute faces. Vote ajhockeystar
Syllogism: Marley Rose did not provide any reasoning for her vote. Mafia do not provide any reasoning for their votes. Therefore, Marley Rose is mafia vote marley rose
Oh it seems we have another new player. Just for that... unvote vote Marley Rose Now that that's done, unvote vote Whereabouts Unknown Dat omgus.
Naturally, we have a solidarity. It's hard to miss. The evidence is right on this page. Contrary to your point, it's those who accuse blindly with sophistry that are more likely to be scum. Unvote Don't feel bad, it's just that there's more important people to vote. Vote Michu
I have come to like you over your past three posts, Whereabouts Unknown. Your style of humour, well... Humours me.
Hmph! N-not like I care. I'm still not voting you! That's why... Anyway! Latimaster, are you going to vote someone anytime soon or?
OMAUS. Go rand someone else you baka. Oh wow that actually makes sense. I feel like a door has opened in front of my eyes and I feel like I could see the world in a whole new way... Hmm, I might be mistaken but I think that is something Town would say. P.S. The host didn't state it but I think the standard NOC rule is no post editing. @Rioku please clarify. Unvote Whereabouts Unknown Vote Fiery Espeon Going for that guaranteed Day 1 lynch.
Apologies. It seems I am in error. I will clarify that at the time of the message above, due to a rare slip of the tongue, I misspoke and unintentionally omitted "not". It can be reverted if necessary. What? Don't get the wrong idea, I'm definitely not voting you!
Strawman. That is not an accurate representation of my argument. Instead of arguing the merits of my syllogism, you make up a clearly disprovable syllogism (ie the conclusion does not follow) that is not related to my initial statement. Please explain to me in a fashion that directly discusses my argument. What about my syllogism do you consider to be fallacious, OR what part of my argument do you disagree with and argue against?
That's funny. When you make a comparison, it's grounds for an inquisition. When I make a comparison, it's a misrepresentation. Indeed, very funny. I didn't know you had a sense of humor in you. Very well, allow me to explain why you are mafia, senpai. First: you single out one person out of five previous voters and draw attention to the fact that they are an outlier. Unlike the other four, who invented their own hollow excuse to vote someone, this player did not embellish their vote with validation. Certainly there would be a problem if there was only one person who did not have logical reasoning for their vote. However, you simply point to the fact that they did not provide any reasoning for their vote, while at that point, no one had logical reasoning for a vote. If @Marley Rose intended to mislead us, they could very easily have said "chuu chuu" and voted me, or "eww kawaii" and voted ajhockeystar. Why draw attention to this insignificant omission? I'll tell you why. Because you are manipulator of hearts that conspires to turn us against each other and take us one by one as your own. Divide and conquer is a textbook mafia tactic. You won't be taking my friends so easily. Second: The premise of your argument is loaded in such a way that you cannot be mafia. "Mafia do not provide any reasoning for their votes." By placing this assumption inside your argument, you can try to protect yourself from suspicion without drawing any attention to yourself. As mafia, this is exactly the safest move you can make while still driving a wedge between us. Hmph. What a gross move. No... I should say grotesque. The merits of your syllogism are only to remove yourself from suspicion. The comparison says nothing about the character of Marley Rose. So, that's how it is. Unless you can prove to me that you have no ill intent, I will oppose you with my every ounce of strength!
Yea it is because you used an example to misrepresent my argument, I didn't try to "represent" anyone's argument in any way. soz sure logical argument = embellishment? lol. yes any =/= logical. no reasoning is impossible to read, reasoning that is weird is readable sure because im stimulating discussion ok lol is it really haha n1 is it really? sure. doubtful, it's not a very strong argument. ya think? hmph. lol lmao yes are u sure The correct answer was: The premise is incorrect via a counterexample since people who have voted w/o reasoning have not always been mafia. You could've argued that too.
Bad Dreams. I didn't even think I needed to add that, w/e. No posting if you are not in this game. If you want to sub, pm me. No dead talking either.
Vote Count 1.0: Whereabouts Unknown (1): ajhockeystar, Pyanda Michu (1): Whereabouts Unknown Cheezeburgar (0): Nitrogen (1): Latimaster TraceofLife (0): ajhockeystar (1): Whereabouts Unknown, Marley Rose Pyanda (1): Cheezeburgar Marley Rose (1): Michu, ajhockeystar Latimaster (0): Fiery Espeon (1): Pyanda 5 to lynch. Deadline in roughly 48 hours: 12:00PM 11/25/2014 CST. @Fiery Espeon has been prodded. @TraceofLife that's fine. I think I can get Dreams or NotMafia to cover for you.
Oh, how embarrassing, you're making a scene. What will people think if they see us maintaining an intense conversation for half of the first page? Kimochiwarui D: Backing down into a contradiction after lecturing others on the merits of logic. Such are the actions of two kinds of people: hypocrites and dunces. Naturally, no one wants to admit they're a dunce. I have no qualms about removing you. If you are a hypocrite, you are our enemy. If you are a dunce, you are trying to be our ally. However, I have no need for an ally that introduces logic which provides no useful information and serves only to protect themselves. Also, I have no desire to allow a hypocrite who is our enemy to continue to live. It's a win-win from my perspective.
Hm? I have never taken this matter trivially. This is a matter of war. Do understand, I wish to convey myself as much as I convey my thoughts. That's why I'm not holding back. I would like to know more about you, @Latimaster. Is there someone you want to protect? If there is, you should take this matter just as seriously as I do. But alas, I can't make any conjectures about your identity until I understand your motives.
Hi village, literally only about two people are having a "discussion". But it's a good one though, so let's get to it. Lol I seriously can't take the argument seriously after this part. Sounds like a line out of some cliche anime/movie or something. Hi Dreams! Aww poor Trace. I do think your original post makes sense but WU's comments and your counters kind of made it into a joke for me. So, WU's comments seem like a nervous Town which is understandable. While the cats and dogs comparison was kind of funny it did look like a misrepresentation of your reason. This made me think WU didn't like the idea of textbook Mafia but later on they made a post I quoted at the top of this post which used the argument that you might be using textbook Mafia tactics, a bit of a stretch to be honest and the attempts to attack seem passionate. But still, I don't think WU is scummy at the moment. If anything, I would think that you are more likely to be scum than WU so far. Not too much to say about it, just the way it played out. You are very welcome. Is that the Mafia's perspective?! @Fiery Espeon I voted you and everything please OMGUS me or something yeah? I'll OMGUS you back if you do. Unvote Vote Marley Rose :)
Why vote Marley? The person who led that vote and suspected them has said "The premise is incorrect." They seem like the type that's quiet on the outside, but there's no reason to accuse of them of being mafia so far. Yes, eliminating Mafia is the Mafia's top objective. Why not vote me instead? Let's make it simple. You can trust that my reasoning is in the interests of the town (in which case, I am town), or you can assume I am trying to manipulate you (and am mafia). Whichever you choose is ultimately up to you. But may I remind you that Michu's accusation holds no water, especially because they contradicted themselves. Allow me to make another 'misrepresentation'. "Pyanda, you began the first sentence in your post with a consonant. Mafia begin the first sentence in their posts with consonants. Therefore, you are mafia." Obviously, there as there is no logical correlation. There are counterexamples of the fact that two nebulously comparable things are identical, or as Michu would prefer, there have been counterexamples of mafia who began their sentences with vowels. This argument is fundamentally flawed. Why use such 'logic'? If you intend to help the village, presenting your logical arguments in reasonable terms is expected. We know Michu has not. Why willingly present fallacies? Can you trust someone who contradicts themselves under pressure over the course of two posts? I'll let you draw your own conclusions. Personally, I would at the very least advise against following a vote based on anti-logic. H-How would I know! It's not like I watch those kind of things!
if you think my "logic" (which was wrong on purpose) provides no information you are naive or plain stupid or bad at mafia. one of the three clearly you seem to recognize this since you consider me mafia as a result (lol) the information doesn't fucking protect myself because we've already said why it's wrong. holy shit no you are wrong. "i am village because i am village" isn't a legitimate argument either. my "accusation" was under a random vote that was meant to provoke and stimulate discussion. if you think i'm mafia because of that you are stupid Assuming here that i actually care about arguing this you did not try to refute the premise of the statement - instead you decided to cry out "BLAH BLAH BLAH LOGICAL FALLACY BLAH BLAH BLAH" if my argument was "fundamentally flawed" you could've clearly pointed out how so (which, as i've said would be relatively easy) to stimulate discussion first, it's not a fallacy. i can make that argument if i really believed that (which i don't). the whole fucking point was to move the day out of random voting, since if you've noticed we've done jack shit and we have no time left p. sure you are an idiot but at least you mean well ???
Vote Fiery Espeon fiery espeon has said nothing all game and considering > half the game can't be bothered to talk we might as well off an inactive
perhaps the post 2 above is a bit harsh so apologies for that it's just frustrating for me when we can't move on from this sort of shit considering the lack of time. we don't have two weeks to jerk off here