Pokemon Black/White

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  1. DaPizzaMan

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    Pokemon Black & Pokemon White

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    Information: Nintendo brings to us Pokemon Black & Pokemon White, or better known as the Fifth Generation of Pokemon. For this Generation of Pokemon, you can expect to see 3D taking over the world. Such as 3D cities, bridges, and other things (Check out the Pre-Release Pictures area). Pokemon Black and Pokemon White will both include the previous Pokemon from the past Generations. However, Nintendo will be adding a good amount of new Pokemon as well.
    Pokemon Black and Pokemon White appear to sport the best 3D art thus far in the core series. The perspective seems to be from a lower point of view, so all the buildings in town appear to be taller. Even the rocks in the caves are higher, and the now-combined Pokémon Center and Store appear bigger than before. One would imagine details like taller trees and structures, and higher ledges would give more of a personal feeling to the game, as though you were traversing the lands yourself. If Japanese message boards are to be believed, leaked scans from CoroCoro magazine containing Pokemon Black and Pokemon White screens are now out in the wild. Last year, we found out that GameFreak was hiring 3D modelers, and the most general assumption was that this was for some sort of drastic graphical change to the next Pokémon game. The battles seem to be more of the same format, with two 2D sprites facing off against each other. However, there are shadows, and there doesn’t seem to be a box for battle text on the same screen as the Pokemon.
    Release Dates:
    These games are due for release in Japan in the Autumn of 2010.
    These games are due for release in America in the ???(Approximately Spring)of 2011.
    These games are due for release in Europe in the ???(Approximately Spring-Summer) of 2011.​

    Pre-Release Pictures:
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    More to be added...

    Fifth Generation Pokemon:
    Zorua
    Zoroark
    More to be added...

    Music: With thanks to Colonel, once again, we have a possibility of some of the music.
    [video=youtube;cyrJvZyegM0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrJvZyegM0[/video]
     
  2. Kioku

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    5th generation Pokemon back sprites seem to showcase a fullbody view versus the previous back-and-up method. I can only assume this is why the battle text has been moved to the bottom screen: in order to have more space.
     
  3. DaPizzaMan

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    That is right. Now, the backsprites, according to that picture, are full backsprites. But, also from the picture, you can see there is no battle text. I don't understand what you are saying. :S
     
  4. KazoWAR

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    It is going to be a pain to be able to record these battles.
     
  5. DaPizzaMan

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    What makes you say that? It's not like the camera has to be a specific size.
     
  6. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    I won't be buying it anyway. Looks like they concentrated more on the graphics than anything else.

    The games with 'normal' graphics were the best ones.
     
  7. Jules

    Jules i make you MANGRY

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  8. DaPizzaMan

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    Don't judge a book by it's cover, or in this case, don't judge a game by it's Pre-Release Pictures. You have yet to see what they do with the rest of this game. Although so far Graphics have been a major change, there is still plenty of time for them to make this one of their best.
     
  9. TEA_DEMON

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    Looking forward to this tbh, OU is boring as hell and the only way it won't be is for it to become a clusterfuck of everything. It'll be fun for a few months maybe, but then it'll be 4drag2mag everywhere again.
     
  10. Quacks

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    For first couple of months, yeah. Later on some emulators might appear, and if those will be able to emulate BW, problem will be solved. That's assuming new fancy battle uploading system will be kept in BW, so we can only hope Nintendo won't remove that.
     
  11. zeroality

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    If this is going to be on the DS then there are already emulators for it. I played Diamond, Platinum and HeartGold on no$gba. But yeah, who knows if BW will run on them as it looks quite graphics insensitive.
     
  12. Quacks

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    Yeah, my bad, it's indeed going to be realeased on DS, there's no "if". The amount of info about 3DS leaking made me believe BW was going to be released on it some time ago, and I'm still stuck in that mindset occasionally.

    Desmume's horizontal screen layout will probably come in handy, and since recording can be sped up, you won't be needing high-end pc to record those either. For casual play there's always no$.
     
  13. Kioku

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    The DS has two screens. The screenshot is only of the top screen. Odds are that the battle text will occur along with the battle console on the bottom screen ( which is touch sensitive ). It would make sense with the trend.

    On another topic, one thing I wish would return from HG/SS is the pokemon following. It was a pretty spiffy addition. Being able to co-op over Wi-Fi the Battle Frontier in HG/SS was cool, too.

    Since this is also occuring on the DS, I can only assume it won't be too much more advanced. It looks like a similar leap from RBY to GSC. It's also safe to say Pal Parking from 4th generation games would be out of the question, unless if they include an accessory to read the information from 2 cards at once. Some sort of Time capsule trade deal would be kind of lame, though.
     
  14. Eternal

    Eternal こんにちは。

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    Yea, I agree. It's not the same old classic style anymore. But, as DaPizzaMan stated, we should judge it by its pre-release pictures. So I'm hoping to see what new features Gamefreak has in store for us.
     
  15. Quacks

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    I'm still rooting for 4 player 2v2's.
     
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    That would be nice. But 4 players 6v6's would be much more epic, heh.
     
  17. Simply Angle

    Simply Angle Stop Watching ME!

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    Just from hearing the theme that was provided B/W will support some awesome music, better than D/P/P. imo
     
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    Reshiram and Zekrom - B/W mascots revealed

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    http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/
    http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_Legendaries_revealed

    I like how Reshiram reminds me of Lugia and Zekrom of Mewtwo. Zekrom sort of has a turbine instead of tail, and it looks little like a shellder bit Slowbro's tail and the whole thing evolved, but it's still - imo - far better than gen 4 legendary pokemon.

    Your thoughts?
     
  19. Akusu

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    Anyone else think that the legendaries look weirder and weirder the further on in the generations we go?

    This is the first time I've looked at the legendary pair and seen it as such a mishmesh. I don't see any strong theme or anything. Just looks like they let a Gundam designer go wild. Palkia and Dialga are the same way.... very meh, what the hell is that supposed to be? Arceus is at least well-designed.

    If I had to pick though, Zekrom looks interesting, as it looks more thought-through than the other.

    This is why I don't play Ubers.
     
  20. E-Barto

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    Is this Pokémon?
    Are you sure? :O
    Those are the weirdest legendaries ever...
     
  21. Elements

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    Yes, it is Pokemon. And I think it is kind of confusing that the Black Legendary is in the White version and the white legendary is in the Black version. Oh well. I think the black one looks the coolest.
     
  22. Lutra

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    I'm gonna guess that Reshiram is pure flying type and Zekrom is a pure steel type. I guess they could be some dual type like flying/psychic & steel/dark though.
     
  23. Darkness

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    Pokemon is totally losing its track. There used to be this charm on Pokemon which I can't see anymore. Think of the old generation legendary Pokemon, such as Zapdos, Articuno, Moltres, Mew, Mewtwo, Lugia, Celebi, and etc. They were amazing. No matter from what way you look at them, they are just good. But the new Pokemon by all means is ugly! And they remind me of Digimon and Yu-gi-oh. Pathetic.
     
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    Reshiram looks like a non-Steel typed Skarmory, and for that reason I'm thinking it's Steel/Flying.

    Zekrom, to paraphrase Kioku, looks like a poor Mac product. I'm plugging for Steel/Dark.

    So, what are we going for here? Matter/anti-matter? Life/Death?

    The only thing that I like about this fifth generation thus far is FIRE PIG.
     
  25. E-Barto

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    I think we already have anti-matter (Giratina). Also, I agree with Steel/Dark, the other one could be Dragon?
     
  26. Lutra

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    Ok now that they are revealed part dragon, I'm guessing Dragon/Flying & Dragon/Steel.
     
  27. Kioku

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    They're clearly based on Taoism and the concept of yin/yang. Creation/destruction, Nature/Technology, White/Black. Opposites. Isshuu seems to have thriving metropolises and little towns with abandoned factories.

    I've also seen pointed out -

    Reshiram - Re - Shir ( Shiro = white ) - RAM
    Zekrom - Ze - Kro ( Kuero = black ) - ROM

    Aside from the colors, RAM and ROM are also contrasts. Random access memory and Read-only memory.
     
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    I'm disappointed that they're both Dragon types AGAIN =/
    The train of disappointments has just started moving again.
     
  29. nmilkosky

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    Hopefully they'll be dragon/dark and psychic, but probably not. :\
     
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    It would be awesome if they were Normal and Ghost, or Light and Dark (new type coming).
    Basically all but Dragon v.v
     
  31. coyotte508

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    I love those legendaries, makes me think of FF...
     
  32. Bluff

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    It'd be sorta hard to see them if it was the right way around, I guess.

    OT: I actually like the look of these, I may start using ubers :D
    I just hope they have a unique typing... another Dragon/Ground would be boring.
     
  33. Steve

    Steve Active Member Administrator Server Owner Administrator Server Owner

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    I completely agree. First and second gen pokemon were the best, third was alright, then it went downhill from there.
     
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    I heard a rumor that is Zekrom a Dragon / Electric type.
    The presenter of Pokemon Sunday has posted on her blog that loves Electrics Pokemons and would like to have a Zekrom ... minutes later she removed the post ..
    Just a rumor...
     
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    Eh, I don't think they look too great. Seem to complicated, like last gen.

    First gen? A freakin' alien dude and an adorable smaller alien dude, BIRDS OF FIRE ICE AND ELECTRICITY. Simple.

    What the hell are those even supposed to be? Bosses for some bad jRPG?
     
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    Different region, different culture, different pokémons...
     
  37. B. Rizzo

    B. Rizzo A relic of the past, given new life.

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    These two don't do it for me to be honest, I don't even see how there could be more legendary pokemon based on Space/Spirituality, because regardless there can never be a pokemon more powerful than Arceus, he's supposed to be the God of Pokemon. So lets see the 1st gen had Original/Clone(Mew and Mewtwo), 2nd had Time/Forest Spirit(Celebi), Fire(Ho-Oh)/Water(Lugia). 3rd had Atmosphere(Rayquaza), Land/Sea(Self-explanitory). 4th had knowledge, emotion, and willpower(legendary trio), Space and Time(Dialga and Palkia)(again) Gravity(Giratina), a dream demon(darkrai), a moon spirit(Cress), somekind of water sprite and its offspring(manaphy/phione), some kind of super happy grass mouse thing and its winged transformation. (Shaymin/Shaymin-S), an electric ghost who can possess can take the form of appliances.(Rotom), a magma demon(Heatran), and one big super useless white golem(Regigigas) and God(Arceus). So now we have two legendaries who are supposed to be complete opposites of each other in every way possible, thats redundant because mostly every legendary after Gen 1 has been tailored to be that way regardless. So instead of waiting for Nintendo's next handheld to come out, they're going to release another generation on now obsolete hardware only to have it completely overshadowed by one of the most anticipated remakes of all time. So all in all, I'm not going to say that its gonna complete fail, but i'm not holding my breath.
     
  38. Bluff

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    Logically, all that is true but you're taking it too literally. Each Legendary has its own theme, true, but it's there mainly to assosiate with their backstories, typing, attacks, etc. Neither Reshiram nor Zecrom need a theme to make them unique in the mythos. Perhaps they're somehow related to other legendaries? Perhaps they're a unique anomynous force that alters the world of Pokemon in an non - specific way?
    ...... Okay, maybe, I'm starting to take it too literally. The point is, they don't need a gimmick to make them special.
    I see a lot of potential in these.
     
  39. E-Barto

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    Giratina isn't gravity, it's anti-matter.

    There is no need for them to be 'better' than Arceus. They can just be legendaries, there's nothing wrong with that!
     
  40. Kioku

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    Giratina isn't gravity or anti-matter. That's just silly. In fact, the games ( Diamond/Pearl ) reference it living between the worlds of living and dead.

    Platinum, on the other hand has it reside in some alternate universe ( Distortion )