Vote

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  1. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    PO Trainer Name:
    Viraj / Virus
    Hey People... This is my theme named "Vote"... It is an Non-Peak theme...
    I have already completed the theme and I need suggestions as well as comments...

    This is the link to my Code...

    http://pastebin.com/g1yfW2Va

    Next Comes Explanation of the theme...

    Vote

    100 years ago, Village had defeated Mafia with their votecount. So long Village has been peacefully living. But who knew the Mafia would return 100 years later to make a sudden attack on the Village. Villagers were confident that they will against the Mafia this time too as Mafia's identity was revealed. But soon they realized that their votecount were not 1 and they were anywhere between -3 to +3 because they ate the poisonous berry which was mixed in their food by Mafia. Mafia were making this poisonous berry for 100 years only to take revenge on the Village who defeated them earlier. Having no other choice they decided to ask help from Village Elder who can find out votecount of villagers with his experience in medical field. But Village Elder had memory issues and now he takes whole 24 hours to remember the votecount of 1 person. The battle has just begun. Will Village Elder help Village to defeat Mafia on time or will Mafia take their 100 years old revenge successfully ?

    These are my roles...

    Roles

    Villager - Has any vote between -3 to 3... Knows Mafia... Sided with Village...

    Village Elder - Can inspect one Villager per night to find his votecount upto 3 times... Available in 7 players and above... Knows Mafia... Sided with Village...

    Mafia - Kills 1 person during the night shared with the team ( Except for first night )... Has a second shared kill in night with 50% success chance in players 8 and above ( Except for first night )... Has vote of 0.9... Sided with Mafia...

    Here comes up Spawn list... The number in bracket determines the votes of a Villager...

    Spawn List
    List 1(3~3 players):
    1. █ Villager (Villager(+1))
    2. █ Villager (Villager(-1))
    3. █ Mafia (Mafia1)

    List 2(4~4 players):
    1. █ Villager (Villager(+1))
    2. █ Villager (Villager(0))
    3. █ Villager (Villager(-1))
    4. █ Mafia (Mafia1)

    List 3(5~5 players):
    1. █ Pack Village1: 1. Villager (Villager(+1)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+2)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+2)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [25.00%]
    2. █ Pack Village1: 1. Villager (Villager(+1)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [25.00%]
    3. █ Pack Village1: 1. Villager (Villager(-1)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(0)) [25.00%]
    4. █ Pack Village1: 1. Villager (Villager(-1)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-2)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [25.00%]
    5. █ Mafia (Mafia1)

    List 4(6~6 players):
    1. █ Pack Village2: 1. Villager (Villager(+2)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+3)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+3)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+2)) [25.00%]
    2. █ Pack Village2: 1. Villager (Villager(+1)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [25.00%]
    3. █ Pack Village2: 1. Villager (Villager(-1)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(0)) [25.00%]
    4. █ Pack Village2: 1. Villager (Villager(-2)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-2)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-3)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-3)) [25.00%]
    5. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    6. █ Mafia (Mafia1)

    List 5(7~7 players):
    1. █ Pack Village2: 1. Villager (Villager(+2)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+3)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+3)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+2)) [25.00%]
    2. █ Pack Village2: 1. Villager (Villager(+1)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [25.00%]
    3. █ Pack Village2: 1. Villager (Villager(-1)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(0)) [25.00%]
    4. █ Pack Village2: 1. Villager (Villager(-2)) [25.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-2)) [25.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-3)) [25.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-3)) [25.00%]
    5. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    6. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    7. █ Mafia (Mafia1)

    List 6(8~8 players):
    1. █ Pack Village3: 1. Villager (Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+3)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+3)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+3))[12.50%]
    2. █ Pack Village3: 1. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%]
    3. █ Pack Village3: 1. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%]
    4. █ Pack Village3: 1. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%]
    5. █ Pack Village3: 1. Villager (Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-3)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-3)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-3))[12.50%]
    6. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    7. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    8. █ Mafia (Mafia2)

    List 7(9~9 players):
    1. █ Pack Village4: 1. Villager (Villager(+3)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+3)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+3)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+2))[12.50%]
    2. █ Pack Village4: 1. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+2)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+2))[12.50%]
    3. █ Pack Village4: 1. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+1)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(0)) [12.50%]
    4. █ Pack Village4: 1. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-1)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-2))[12.50%]
    5. █ Pack Village4: 1. Villager (Villager(-3)) [12.50%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-3)) [12.50%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-3)) [12.50%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-2)) [12.50%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-2))[12.50%]
    6. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    7. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    8. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    9. █ Mafia (Mafia2)

    List 8(10~10 players):
    1. █ Pack Village5: 1. Villager (Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+2))[10.00%]
    2. █ Pack Village5: 1. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+1))[10.00%]
    3. █ Pack Village5: 1. Villager (Villager(0)) [9.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(0)) [9.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [9.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+1))[10.00%]
    4. █ Pack Village5: 1. Villager (Villager(0)) [9.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(0)) [9.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(0)) [9.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+1))[10.00%]
    5. █ Pack Village5: 1. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-2))[10.00%]
    6. █ Pack Village5: 1. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-3))[10.00%]
    7. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    8. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    9. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    10. █ Mafia (Mafia2)

    List 9(11~11 players):
    1. █ Pack Village6: 1. Villager (Villager(+3)) [4.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+3)) [4.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+3)) [4.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+3)) [4.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+3)) [4.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+3)) [4.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+3)) [5.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+3)) [5.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+3)) [5.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+3)) [5.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+3))[5.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(+3)) [5.00%] | 13. Villager (Villager(+3)) [5.00%] | 14. Villager(Villager(+3)) [5.00%] | 15. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 16. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 17. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 18. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 19. Villager (Villager(+2))[4.00%] | 20. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 21. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 22. Villager(Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 23. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%]
    2. █ Pack Village6: 1. Villager (Villager(+3)) [4.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+2)) [5.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+2)) [5.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+2)) [5.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+2)) [5.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+2))[5.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 13. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 14. Villager(Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 15. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 16. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 17. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 18. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 19. Villager (Villager(+2))[4.00%] | 20. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 21. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 22. Villager(Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 23. Villager (Villager(+1)) [4.00%]
    3. █ Pack Village6: 1. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 6. Villager(Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+1))[5.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 13. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 14. Villager(Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 15. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 16. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 17. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 18. Villager (Villager(+2)) [4.00%] | 19. Villager (Villager(+2))[4.00%] | 20. Villager (Villager(+1)) [4.00%] | 21. Villager (Villager(+1)) [4.00%] | 22. Villager(Villager(+1)) [4.00%] | 23. Villager (Villager(+1)) [4.00%]
    4. █ Pack Village6: 1. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(0)) [5.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(0)) [5.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-1)) [5.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(0)) [5.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-1)) [5.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 13. Villager (Villager(+1)) [5.00%] | 14. Villager (Villager(+1))[5.00%] | 15. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 16. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 17. Villager(Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 18. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 19. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 20. Villager (Villager(+1)) [4.00%] | 21. Villager (Villager(+1)) [4.00%] | 22. Villager (Villager(+1))[4.00%] | 23. Villager (Villager(+1)) [4.00%]
    5. █ Pack Village6: 1. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(0)) [5.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-1)) [5.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-1)) [5.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-2)) [5.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-1))[5.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(0)) [5.00%] | 13. Villager (Villager(-1)) [5.00%] | 14. Villager(Villager(-2)) [5.00%] | 15. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 16. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 17. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 18. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 19. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 20. Villager (Villager(0)) [4.00%] | 21. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 22. Villager (Villager(-2))[4.00%] | 23. Villager (Villager(+1)) [4.00%]
    6. █ Pack Village6: 1. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-1)) [4.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-3)) [5.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-2)) [5.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-1)) [5.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-2)) [5.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-2))[5.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(-3)) [5.00%] | 13. Villager (Villager(-2)) [5.00%] | 14. Villager(Villager(-2)) [5.00%] | 15. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 16. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 17. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 18. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 19. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 20. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 21. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 22. Villager (Villager(-2))[4.00%] | 23. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%]
    7. █ Pack Village6: 1. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-3)) [5.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-3)) [5.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-3)) [5.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-2)) [5.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-2))[5.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(-3)) [5.00%] | 13. Villager (Villager(-3)) [5.00%] | 14. Villager(Villager(-2)) [5.00%] | 15. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 16. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 17. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 18. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 19. Villager (Villager(-2)) [4.00%] | 20. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 21. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%] | 22. Villager (Villager(-2))[4.00%] | 23. Villager (Villager(-3)) [4.00%]
    8. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    9. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    10. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    11. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    List 10(12~12 players):
    1. █ Pack Village7: 1. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+3)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+2))[9.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%]
    2. █ Pack Village7: 1. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+3)) [8.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+2)) [8.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+2)) [8.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+2)) [8.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+2)) [8.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+2))[9.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%]
    3. █ Pack Village7: 1. Villager (Villager(+1)) [8.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(+1)) [8.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(+1)) [8.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(+1)) [8.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(+2)) [8.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(+2)) [8.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(+2)) [8.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(+2)) [8.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+2))[9.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(+2)) [9.00%]
    4. █ Pack Village7: 1. Villager (Villager(0)) [8.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(0)) [8.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-1)) [8.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-1)) [8.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(0)) [8.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(0)) [8.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-1)) [8.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-1)) [8.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(+1))[9.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(+1)) [9.00%]
    5. █ Pack Village7: 1. Villager (Villager(-1)) [8.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-1)) [8.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-1)) [8.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-1)) [8.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-1)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-1))[9.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%]
    6. █ Pack Village7: 1. Villager (Villager(-3)) [8.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-3)) [8.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-3))[9.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(-2)) [9.00%]
    7. █ Pack Village7: 1. Villager (Villager(-3)) [8.00%] | 2. Villager (Villager(-3)) [8.00%] | 3. Villager(Villager(-3)) [8.00%] | 4. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 5. Villager (Villager(-3)) [8.00%] | 6. Villager (Villager(-3)) [8.00%] | 7. Villager (Villager(-3)) [8.00%] | 8. Villager (Villager(-2)) [8.00%] | 9. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 10. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%] | 11. Villager (Villager(-3))[9.00%] | 12. Villager (Villager(-3)) [9.00%]
    8. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    9. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    10. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    11. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    12. █ Mafia (Mafia2)

    This list is tough to understand so I would explain it in short in following spolier...

    List 1(3~3 players):
    1. █ Villager (Villager(+1))
    2. █ Villager (Villager(-1))
    3. █ Mafia (Mafia1)

    List 2(4~4 players):
    1. █ Villager (Villager(+1))
    2. █ Villager (Villager(0))
    3. █ Villager (Villager(-1))
    4. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    List 3(5~5 players):

    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 2 and -2 respectively...

    List 4(6~6 players):
    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    6. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 3 and -3 respectively...

    List 5(7~7 players):
    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    6. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    7. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 3 and -3 respectively...

    List 6(8~8 players):
    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. Villager
    6. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    7. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    8. █ Mafia (Mafia2)

    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 3 and -3 respectively...

    List 7(9~9 players):
    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. Villager
    6. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    7. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    8. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    9. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 4 and -4 respectively...

    List 8(10~10 players):
    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. Villager
    6. Villager
    7. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    8. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    9. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    10. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 5 and -5 respectively...

    List 9(11~11 players):
    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. Villager
    6. Villager
    7. Villager
    8. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    9. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    10. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    11. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 6 and -6 respectively...

    List 10(12~12 players):
    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. Villager
    6. Villager
    7. Villager
    8. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    9. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    10. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    11. █ Mafia (Mafia2)
    12. █ Mafia (Mafia2)

    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 7 and -7 respectively...


    Here comes the Priority List

    Priority

    [1] Mafia (Kill)
    [2] Mafia (Kill)
    [3] Mafia (Kill2)

    [4] Village Elder (Inspect)

    Ok... Last thing to all...

    This is my first Mafia theme so please apologize on any mistakes made by me... Please comment on the theme whether it would be good or bad... I will keep making changes and will surely keep you all updated with it...

    Thank You...
     
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  2. ThunderStruck0011

    ThunderStruck0011 ;)

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    To me, I say the theme is okay, I would put in other roles though but, other than that I think the theme is good :)
    (I suggest you put in a protector and a kill for the village that may work idk much about themes but I hope this helps)
     
  3. beforedawn

    beforedawn Active Member

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    This looks good to me. Since it's non-peak, I don't think other roles are necessary because it is not intended to be diverse.
     
  4. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    I think it is a solid theme, but you should test it first, as it may be to villagesided/mafiasided.
     
  5. Riah

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    This looks like a fun game, but IMO i does seem a little village sided, if a few villagers do not vote in suspicion for having a -vote. Maybe more mafia should be added, especially if there are 4+ players.
     
  6. BBlade

    BBlade Hi.

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    I think this is a solid and fun theme. :D It seems like it may be a little village sided, but you're potential change of giving mafia the ability to kill n1 seems to be able to resolve that.
     
  7. Julio-56

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    i think this will be a good non-peak theme. but we will need a test to be sure
     
  8. waehofen

    waehofen Peace, love, & understanding

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    I like the basic idea of town having to figure out their vote numbers, and actually this is quite well-balanced from what I can tell, but since you asked for my opinion I gotta be honest.

    As it stands I would not suggest taking out the inspect mechanic. In fact I can't help but think having a fail-chance on it at all is problematic; on average about 8.3 inspects have to be made (by townies who don't die that night) to get an even chance that one will be successful. The 3-, 4-, and 5p games tend not to feature those at all. Unless a successful inspect happens, which is random chance in itself, the course of the game is left to optimal play and random chance—since the townies don't know their own vote numbers, there's no way for the mafia to get reads on their behavior until successful inspects start coming in. I suppose the town can work around their prediction of whom the mafia will kill to pick inspect targets but with optimal play that would likely have a small impact anyway.

    IMO you're between a rock and a hard place unless some non-vanilla roles are added. Theoretically there should be some way to muck around with a couple town roles and use startup reveal so the town is able to identify some (but probably not all) of its valuable pieces, and the mafia can try to read their tells based on that knowledge. But I have no idea what that'd be in practice. Making the games larger and diversifying roles somewhat, or allowing mafia to gain additional information through night actions, might work.

    tl;dr I think the character of Mafia as a game is lost unless there's a guarantee that some roles know more than others (although in some closed, "bastard" setups you can make it so they only think they do lol). Whether it's the basic knowledge of who the mafia is or the awareness that some roles are PRs, that substitutes reading and prediction for luck.
     
  9. PichiTheShinyPichu

    PichiTheShinyPichu I'm not amused

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    This theme seems alright, if not a little luck-based. I would run a test just to see if it's too village/mafia sided. List 5 could replace a 0 vote villager with mafia in one test to make sure there aren't too many meatshields.
     
  10. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    Well I read all comments...
    Here are few things I found...

    People find this theme a lot Villagesided...
    The game is Vote but people do not get to know their votes only due to 8% chance of success...

    So here are few things that ran across my mind in order to treat these problems...
    I need people to comment on these things...

    1) I must add a new role in Village which can inspect any villager to find their votecount... This inspect can only be used maximum 3 times and once during each night... Mafia or any other Villager do not know about this role... I will also take away inspects from all Villagers... This role will have 0 vote... Along with this role, Mafia will be able to kill from night 1... This role as well as Night 1 kill of mafia will be only possible in 5+ players game... However along with this change I will also take away inspect of Villagers in smaller games as well...

    2) Mafia must be given a 100% shared inspect for balancing... This idea is suggested by obey to kyubey and by my side I really don't like this idea... However I do want to see peoples reaction on this...

    3) Mafia must be given another shared kill... This kill has 50% chance of having successful... This is mainly added for balancing...

    4) I remove away the inspects of Villager but in place of that when Villager dies, his vote will also be revealed...

    5) All the votes of Villagers when added in any lists gets down to a total of 0... I will change this total to -1 in 5+ player games... Example in List 6, the votes of villagers are +3,+1,+1,-1,-1,-3... This will be changed to +3,+1,+1,-1,-2,-3... Adding these gets to a total of -1 which makes it to a little more balance...

    6) Increase Mafia's Vote from 0.7 to 1.1 in 5+ player games for balancing...

    So I need some comments and suggestions of what should be done... You can also comment on merging of 2 or more ideas from these or merging with any other idea...
    If many people feel that any idea must be added very strongly, I will change it... At the moment I am not changing anything in the theme...
    Any new ideas are always welcome...

    Since I feel there is lot of time for Mafia QC to revive, we can successfully complete this theme without any problems in it...

    Thank You...
     
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  11. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    I think you have a good concept here,


    Haven't inspected it much, but from a glance, imo list 5 should have a villager 0 changed to mafia, and at list 8 same thing.

    Also, instead of having weird decimal votes, maybe the mafia get a voteshield instead?

    And maybe starting at 2 mafia, they get another shared kill (as mentioned earler)

    Another suggestion would be that mafia don't know eachother, dont kill their kills broadcasted, and could possibly kill eachother? that may make it too village sided though.

    Edit: ooooooh oor maybe the villagers don't know their votes?
     
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  12. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    Roild gave me a great new change in the map of the theme... Village don't know Mafia... Village has 2 inspectors ( at the moment only talking about large games )... 1 inspector inspects votes of person ( Here Mafia may be give vote of 1 )... Another inspector inspects the sides of person...

    He also gave me new ways for Inspection by inspectors... So if my theme gets inspectors... Following might also be used...

    Inspector who inspects few nights to collect info ( he himself doesn't get to know it ) and reveals it when he dies...
    Inspector who inspects few nights to collect info ( he himself doesn't get to know it ) and one fine night doesn't inspect and uses his second command which reveals all info he collected together in day...

    I didn't like the idea of Villagers not knowing Mafia because that's the most unique feature of the game ( Sorry Roild but this is the truth about what I feel )... However I liked the things he said about Inspectors and may use it if Inspector is used in the theme...

    For the moment, I need to ask people... Do you need the idea what Roild said or my idea will work ?

    My Idea :-
    Villagers knows Mafia...
    Villagers has random votes...
    Inspector to inspect votes... ( maybe )

    Roild's Idea :-
    Villagers doesn't know Mafia...
    Villagers has random votes...
    Inspector to inspect votes...
    Inspector to inspect roles...

    Just tell which Idea is better...

    Thank You...
     
  13. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Sorry i Know i promised to send this sooner.
    Anyway here my thoughts:
    1) your mafia players spawns too late, i suggest that the mafia roles should be always around 1/3rd of the players joining the game, which means that there should be an extra mafia players when the game reaches 6, 9 and 12 players.

    2) By my experience with my theme "trust" i can tell you that with only 1 kill which cannot even been used during the first night your theme risks to be too slow when there are 8-9 or more players, which means that your second kill idea could be useful but I think you are abusing of the failChance feature between that and the inspection of the villagers, this is why i suggest you instead to give a second kill with 2 nights of recharges to mafia players for 8-9 players or bigger games.
    Otherwise make it spawn a solitary evil role with faster kill and some special ability like distract but unaware who are the members of the other mafia teams as 9th player.

    3)If you want an alternative method to discover the vote power then /inspect, maybe you could use the "onlist": "role name", feature to make it show on the ±Current Roles: list how much alive villagers have a positive vote power and how much villagers have a negative one.
    For exemple if there are alive 1 villager with +1 vote power, 1 villager with +2 vote power, 1 villager with -2 and 1 mafia player, the current roles list will be displayed like this:
    ±Current Roles: Positive Villager, Positive Villager, Negative Villager, Mafia .
    This way the villagers can uses Logic to know if they have negative or positive vote powers but with some difficulty to know how much high is this vote power.

    4) I don't think that a villager with 0 vote power is a good thing unless you will not give him some sort of special power like that new inspectors ideas that you and Roild were talking about. Otherwise instead of 0 vote power role make it spawn a villager which vote power changes every night between " 1, 0 and -1 " this way you will add an extra variable for this theme, you can do it giving him an array vote power like this "vote": [1, 0, 1], .

    5) I don't think that mafia vote power should be higher then 1. Giving them 1.1 vote power seems excessive, if you really want to boost the mafia team give to them a mafia leader with that 1.1 vote power or give them some extra special ability on bigger games.

    6) For me the village is less overpowered then what the other reviewers are saying, because if all the positive voters are dead then the mafia cannot lose.

    7) Mafia should have a winIfDeadRoles condition like Kuja on Final Fantasy, this way if all the positive villagers are dead, then the mafia automatically wins.

    8)This is more something to spice up a little the theme then a real suggestion but, It could be interesting if you would use the spawn pack feature for the bigger games with different villagers to spawn but with the same starting total vote power.
    For exemple 8 players games could randomly spawn between this classic setup:
    List 6 (8~8 players):
    1. Villager (Villager(+3))
    2. Villager (Villager(+1))
    3. Villager (Villager(+1))
    4. Villager (Villager(-1))
    5. Villager (Villager(-1))
    6. Villager (Villager(-3))
    7. Mafia (Mafia)
    8. Mafia (Mafia)
    and this alternative one:
    List 6 (8~8 players):
    1. Villager (Villager(+2))
    2. Villager (Villager(+1))
    3. Villager (Villager(+1))
    4. Villager (Villager(+1))
    5. Villager (Villager(-2))
    6. Villager (Villager(-3))
    7. Mafia (Mafia)
    8. Mafia (Mafia)
    the total number of vote powers are redistributed in a different way, but the total number of positive vote powers and negative vote powers is always +5 and -5 on both setups.

    Sorry for the long post.
     
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  14. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    OK I made a lots of changes...

    That changes has been done...
    At 3 players, 1 mafia...
    At 6 players, 2 mafia...
    At 9 players, 3 mafia...
    At 12 players, 4 mafia...

    Ok done...

    From night 2, Mafia gets 2 kills... 2nd kill have 50% chance of success... This is added from 8 player games and more...

    Well I thought of doing it... But I found lot of errors...
    Just assume Mafia kills a Negative voter in N2, All people will vote Mafia as they know the total votes will always be greater than 0...
    So I guess giving a Inspector would be better than this...

    Yes I added an Inspector...
    I was thinking of just removing away Villager with 0 vote...
    But when I read spawn pack feature, a villager with 0 vote must be required...

    Yea... You are right...
    I increased mafias vote from 0.7 to 0.9...
    This really doesnt matter in any game except 12 player game...
    In 12 player game where there are 4 mafias...
    If vote of mafia is 0.7, Total vote of mafias are 2.8 (i.e. more than 2 and less than 3)...
    If vote of mafia is 0.9, Total vote of mafias are 3.6 (i.e. more than 3 and less than 4)...

    Looks like I had forgot to add it...Done

    This is an awesome feature... I made changes in this theme and added all possible combinations in this...


    The major changes I made are as follows...

    1) Took away all inspects of all villagers...
    2) Added Village Elder where he can inspect any Villager to find his votes up to 3 times... (from 7 player games and above...)
    3) Mafia can have kill 2 from night 2 which has 50% chance of success... (from 8 player games and above...)
    4) Added Spawn feature which will make different combinations of votes of villager but their total vote will be equal to 0...

    I will be making changes in first post as soon as possible...
     
  15. Roild

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    I like that the net votes is equal to 0. May be useful if net vote is 1. 1 being a higher chance to be able to get at least 1 vote if all the positive voters die. Or most. Some testing could see what's good. I mean as long as there's at least 1-2 positive voters alive after some kills (and a possible accidental vote) then it's functional.
     
  16. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Probably the starting net votes value should be related by how much mafia roles spawns during that game, something like:
    "one mafia -> net votes = 0 , two mafias -> net votes = 1"
    But I am unsure how should increase this starting net votes value, probably better keep it static like it is now until there are some tests to analyze.
     
  17. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Well i guess i will be the first to post the review for this theme.
    Review N°1:

    Creativity-
    Well on flavor and lore level it is a typical villagers against mafia story, all the roles are called or village or mafia apart the "village elder" which could be considered the only not vanilla role of the group, the messages are pretty classic, simple and easy to understand the only novelty is the use of the triple points ... which is useful to read easily the messages but it's not exactly a Creativity thing.
    I can understand that a non-peak theme doesn't have much space for flavour sometimes, so I think that as creativity this theme deserve
    Score: 3/5


    Cohesion-
    Because of the classic names the players can undestand easily who is sided with who, after all every village sided role has villager or village inside their name.
    The messages are short and easily understandable.
    The only problem is the Help message of "mafia1" role, where it says that it has 0.7 vote power meanwhile the role is coded to have 0.9.
    Because of this i cannot give you the max cohesion score but when you will correct that error i will change this vote.
    Score: 4/5

    Craftsmanship (Balance, Tactics)-
    When the game start in any game size the spawning mafia roles are more or less one third of the players, which on my opinion is pretty balanced.
    The advantages are the classic one for mafia, they can kill but their total vote power is inferior to the village, meanwhile the villagers as advantage have greater vote power and they even know who is mafia, which is counterbalanced by the fact that the villagers don't know if they have a negative or positive vote power.
    The villagers' vote power can be discovered in two ways: or experimenting with the vote phase or thanks to the ability of the "village elder".
    Because of the knowledge about who is mafia: the mind games are very limited and the knowledge of their own teammates could lead into a silent chat probably but at the same time raising the teamwork and tactic value of the game.
    There are still some thing that i unsure about balance but most of it looks good.
    Score: 4/5

    Course (Learning Curve, Flow)-
    The roles types can be considered 4, villager with unknown vote power, village sided vote inspector, small game mafia with only 1 kill, big game mafia with 2 shared kill. The player will have no big difficulty to learn the roles.
    The pace could be a little slow sometimes because not always someone will be voted out and the first night mafia cannot kill. This could be a problem during the bigger games, but on big games mafia gets a second kill to balance it, so it should be ok.
    The only possible problem is that the vote phase works in a different way from the other themes which could be a little confusing(which could be a big disadvantage for the village), but i cannot say how much confusing for now until it get tested.
    Score: 3/5

    Concept-
    This game is fun for the same motive why dethy is fun. A theme where the main objective is not only to vote out the bad guy but even to find out who has which power.
    This is obviously a theme where people need to cooperate, if they start voting all together the village risk only to make things worse.
    My only doubt is if there are good strategies to choose who should vote, because if it is mainly based on luck it could become a little annoying.
    Score: 4/5
    Total: 18/25
    There are some points i wanted to give a greater score but, i had some doubts i couldn't ignore, if this theme will reach the test phase and solve my doubts i will be happy to raise the scores.
     
  18. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    Fair Point...
    I made some changes for it...

    The main Summary is completely new...

    The Villagers were peacefully staying in the Village... The Villagers were so kind that each Villager would surely know other Villager... Then suddenly one fine night Mafia attacked the village... As every Villager knew other Villager they also know who the Mafia are... As the Villager know who Mafia are, their job is to vote out Mafia during day time... Since Mafia are revealed at the start, it was very easy for Village to win... But their came a twist... Villagers didn't knew how much their votecount were... Villager had any votecount between -3 to 3... Now comes the question... Will Villagers successfully vote out Mafia or will Mafia take control of the Village ? Best Of Luck...VirajVora...

    Next one are roles... Bold ones are added ones...

    You are a normal citizen of Village... Since you know whole Village, you also know who the Mafia are... But you cant vote them as easily as it seems... Because... You can have any votecount between -3 to +3... You have to vote safely in order to remove Mafia...

    You are a mafia that came to rule over the village... But an issue occured... Since Villagers knew other villagers, your identity was revealed... Luckily Villagers dont know thier votecounts and you have equal chance of winning... You can kill every night except the first shared with your team by using /kill (name)... You have a vote of 0.9...

    You are the most respected village elder... You are so experienced that only you in whole village knows the voteounts of all people... Unfortunately due to your memory problems, you cant remember votecounts of more than 3 Villagers... You can inspect any other Villager to find their votecount using /inspect (name)... You can inspect only upto 3 times... Your vote is 0...",


    Since I am weak in giving flavor/creativity, I hope I haven't overdone it and also not did it in a wrong way... If I did made a mistake, please tell me and I will change it...


    Looks like I forgot to change it's vote... Changed it now...

    This is the place where I feel is the balance issue... Do you feel balance is wrong at same point ?

    List 5(7~7 players):
    1. Villager
    2. Villager
    3. Villager
    4. Villager
    5. █ Village Elder (Village Elder)
    6. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    7. █ Mafia (Mafia1)
    Here the the total votes of all positive Villagers and total votes of all negative villagers is 3 and -3 respectively...

    Here Village seems too strong to me...
    If you feel the same I will change it... Waiting for a reply...


    Well this is not a major issue according to me... Any player who have played this game few times might be aware of the issue... But if the issue still stays I will add a /tips where I will mention Villagers to think before voting in a detailed manner... Personally I neither think this is a major issue nor I think tips is needed for this theme... Telling Villagers to think before voting is a common sense thing and should not be a major issue is what I feel...


    There are small strategies here...
    The Village Elder must Pm all Villagers Asap or at least the one whom he is inspecting... Then pass on to all Villagers about the votes who has and who is Village Elder via Pm... (Don't worry about how to pass info via pm so quickly... Elder can choose any random villager who will not be inspected as a medium to pass information...)
    If Elder gets a +3 voter, he must quickly inform all other villagers to not vote anyone via some random villager... Then only +3 vote villager must vote Mafia to guarantee one Mafia down... However, after this Mafia will surely kill this Villager...
    If a single Villager is following Mafia's vote, that Villager will most probably be an inspected villager who has negative votes... So don't kill that Villager as you win when all positive villagers die...
    Mafia must remember that their main weapon is not voting but kills... Sometimes Villager don't remember who is Mafia and give you some information to you via pm so try for it...

    Well these are the only small Strategies which I know... They can't completely be called as Strategies but that's all I have... So basically this is a luck game...

    Most of your doubts will be solved only after Test, so nothing can be done of it...
    Happy for getting such nice points on the first theme I made :]

    Gonna update OP in a while from now...
     
  19. Fiery Espeon

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    Please remove all the periods/ellipses. They are not necessary. It's really distracting. Especially, since they are in the code, its taking away from the theme itself, including all role msgs and the summary. It's easy take them out too. Just find ".." and replace. I will review the theme shortly.
     
  20. VirajVora

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    Did remove them too from code...
     
  21. Fiery Espeon

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    Here is your review, @VirajVora now stop asking me.
    Creativity-
    I feel as most non peak themes are very creative in how they work, function. However, a lot are just glorified vanilla. I think you've managed to not make it plain and yet keep it simple, but still a new theme, not a complete rip off. I have to agree with Shazan here in that, I think its pretty decent on creativity levels, and I feel like none of the help/info msgs are really excellent, but average. Your win msgs/help msgs can show more creativity, and I think that is one of the better places where you can show this.
    Score: 3/5
    Cohesion-

    I think your summary for your theme needs to be better. I know English might not be your native language, but your grammar and sentence structure is confusing to say the least. I suggest you seek help from a native English speaker to fix this. An example of this is the repetition of the word Villager so many times, that it was a pain to read. The same goes for your help msgs, they need to be grammatically correct. You have the gist of everything, but you need to fix up the details.
    Score: 3/5

    Craftsmanship (Balance, Tactics)-
    I agree with Obey, on this, that it is balanced, the different ways you have made it so. I have to agree on the fact about the Village Elder and the majority of votes of the village, balancing the fact that Mafia can kill, which balances the lower vote Mafia has, which is balanced by the negative/positive votes of the villagers. I have a suggestion: What if the Village Elder did not know the Mafia? This makes the theme into a much more complex theme, while still being comprehensible. The Mafia have a chance of tricking the Village Elder with votes every phase. This can always be counterbalanced by giving the Village Elder the same votes Mafia has. An idea to think about. Anyway, good job.
    Score: 4/5

    Course (Learning Curve, Flow)-
    If a beginner did play this, and if all the explanations were grammatically correct, then its not a very difficult theme to understand, which is rather crucial to a non peak theme. However, you must explain it more thoroughly. I would include a Tips section, and a much more detailed, yet short summary. Don't beat around the bush. The voting system is complicated, and it would be great to players, if you could thoroughly explained to them in the help msg. However, once you've played the theme, you will eventually understand the mechanics.
    Score: 3/5

    Concept-
    I think the strategies that will be used for this theme will be fun. It's a good nonpeak idea, with a fairly uncommon mechanic. I do think other role names could have been used, while still keeping it general, and still remaining the title of this theme "Vote". However, this is a very small nitpick. The voting strategies, the killing strategies and the different feinting strategies will be unique or common to this theme, and yet it is still non peak, which is a typical non peak theme that almost everyone enjoys playing.
    Score: 4/5
    Total: 17/25
    Grand Total: 35/50
     
  22. VirajVora

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    Liar, I haven't asked you to review after December...

    Yes I know but I am weak in creativity... It will be good if you helped me in this... If not, I might do it after 11th March because of my exams...

    I think you are wrong in this part... Summary is also a part of Creativity I guess... Anyways same reply as above... Help me or I got to wait till March 11...

    If Village Elder doesn't know Mafia,any Villager can declare openly during Night 1 that Mafia are X and Y... If you wanna counter with "Mafia can also declare that players A and B are mafia", Elder will still get to know about real Mafia as number of villagers declaring will be atleast double than Mafia's fake declares...

    Ok will add tips after 11th March...

    Thank you... Wondering where I lost my 1 mark...

    Not bad I guess... Or is it bad ?
    Anyways, can I know who are other 2 QC's of my theme ?
    Will harass them if they don't reply soon... Lol I was just kidding...
     
  23. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    @EljayQuiz and @Cheezeburgar are the other two in charge for this theme.
     
  24. Whereabouts Unknown

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    Let's move this along...

    Creativity-

    This is a very unique theme. In some ways that works for it, while in some ways it may hinder gameplay. However, there is a nice balance in pioneering and sticking to the basics, as this theme doesn't go overboard with complicated mechanics while still introducing a fundamentally new concept. It remains to be seen in practice, but I think it's conceptually strong.

    Some of the text isn't ideal. Overall, the theme could benefit by improved flavoring. This is where you can let your creativity loose. Why does no one know their vote power? Mass amnesia? Conspirators? Aliens??? It's not obligatory, but some sort of flavoring could definitely improve the theme.

    Score: 4/5

    Cohesion-


    I'm seconding most of what Fiery Espeon said. The text could use improvement, and some of the help messages are difficult to read because of fragments or passive voice. This wouldn't take too much to fix, and I would be willing to raise my score if it is resolved.

    Score: 2/5

    Craftsmanship (Balance, Tactics)-

    It's really hard to say how balanced this theme is. In theory it should break about 50/50, but in practice, I think it will it favor Mafia slightly. It looks like you have devised plenty of checks and balances between the roles, so I'm not going to nitpick unless something seems really off, and it doesn't.

    3p is more or less a 50/50, as long as the Villagers don't vote the same person. 4p is also pretty luck based, since the Mafia can end up 1v1 against the +1 Vote Villager and auto-lose. Which reminds me, you should add every role with 1 Vote or more to VCLR.

    5p+ are intriguing because it becomes a game of mathematical probability, which is fantastic. The Village Elder helps make it a logic battle.

    If anything, I think the Mafia might become underpowered in larger games, simply because they can be voted off with considerable accuracy and lose if they end up 1v1 against anyone with a positive Vote. On the other hand, it is also very easy for Mafia to determine who has the positive Vote and kill them, leaving the Village without any way of eliminating Mafia. It would be fun to model this game to see how statistically balanced it is, but I think a test would be more effective.

    Score: 4/5

    Course (Learning Curve, Flow)-

    I'm seconding Fiery Espeon again. This theme has a complicated premise, but if you can explain that coherently then the learning curve will be appealing to new players as well. Again I'm concerned with the way that Mafia can be overwhelmed by any positive Votes. I think it would not be terrible to simplify the theme by giving the Mafia a Vote of 1. At the very least this would keep the math simple, but I think it would also help with concerns in the balance in later games addressed above.

    Score: 3/5

    Concept-

    A theme where you already know the Mafia on startup is certainly a creative design. Most Mafia themes are built on the premise of determining who your allies are, but in this case, it is a battle of logistics to figure out who can eliminate Mafia. While there are some aspects that need fine-tuning, I think the concept is fresh and original, and I would like to see it reach its maximum potential.

    Score: 5/5
    Total: 18/25
    Cumulative: 53/75


    @EljayQuiz and @Cheezeburgar
     
  25. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    Thanks a lot for that...



    I did some changes in Creativity and I hope this is good... Added it at the last...



    Most of the things are based on test... We just can't tell whether its one-sided or not... I just didn't understood one thing... What is VCLR ?



    I added a tips section for starters... Giving 1 vote to Mafia is also fine but just changing it so that Math stays simple is bad thing I think... I gave 0.9 vote to Mafia just for balancing purpose... I'll change it if balance is an issue... Tips included at last of the post...

    Just loved reading this comment of yours... Thank you so much...



    Ok so the creativity and tips are as follows...

    Summary - 100 years ago, Village had defeated Mafia with their votecount. So long Village has been peacefully living. But who knew the Mafia would return 100 years later to make a sudden attack on the village. Villagers were confident that they will against the Mafia this time too as Mafia's identity was revealed. But soon they realized that their votecount were not 1 and they were anywhere between -3 to +3 because they ate the poisonous berry which was mixed in their food by Mafia. Mafia were making this poisonous berry for 100 years only to take revenge on the Village who defeated them earlier. Having no other choice they decided to ask help from Village Elder who can find out votecount of villagers with his experience in medical field. But Village Elder had memory issues and now he takes whole 24 hours to remember the votecount of 1 person. The battle has just begun. Will Village Elder help Village to defeat Mafia on time or will Mafia take their 100 years old revenge successfully ? Best Of Luck... NEW PLAYERS PLEASE READ /TIPS SECTION... VirajVora...


    Villager - You are a normal citizen of Village. You have to defeat the revealed Mafia with the help of your vote. However you ate a poisonous berry made by Mafia. So you can have any votecount between -3 to +3. You have to vote safely in order to remove Mafia.

    Village Elder - You are the most respected village elder. Village lost their votecount because of eating poisonous berry made by Mafia. Only you in whole village can tell the votecounts of all people with your experience in Medical field. Unfortunately due to your memory problems, you need 24 hours to remember votecount of each person. You can inspect any Villager to find their votecount using /inspect (name). You can inspect only upto 3 times. Your vote is 0.

    Mafia - You are a Mafia that came to take revenge on people of 100 years ago. However, your identity was revealed in front of all villager. Luckily Villagers don't know their votecounts as you mixed their food with a poisonous berry you were making from 100 years. You can kill every night except the first shared with your team by using /kill (name). You have a vote of 0.9.

    Tips:

    "DO NOT RECKLESSLY VOTE MAFIA!!!",
    "NEW PLAYERS": "In this theme, Village knows who is Mafia from the start, but they don't know how much is their votecount. So dont recklessly vote mafia like you do in all other games. Best way to keep balance is half of the player votes Mafia and half of the player wont."
    "Villager": "If Village Elder tells you have negative votecount, always vote with Mafia to save your own teammates. If Village Elder dies soon, the best way to keep going is half of the players vote for 1st mafia and other half players vote 2nd mafia."
    "Village Elder": "Don't claim your role at all. Pm the votecount of a player on the spot. Always vote with mafia before your inspects are done to avoid getting killed. After your inspects are done, vote against mafia so you might take the kill of your teammate on yourself and save him. DO NOT INSPECT MAFIA."
    "Mafia": " If your teammate gets voted out, try killing people who voted him. Don't waste kills on people who vote with you as they might have negative votes. If few people voted you and you didn't get vote out, it has high chance that the person with positive vote didn't vote. YOU WIN WHEN ALL VILLAGERS WITH POSITIVE VOTECOUNT DIE."

    Hope the creativity is good now... I am bad at it...
     
  26. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    VCLR = Village Can't Lose Roles
     
  27. Whereabouts Unknown

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    Yes. Village should not be allowed to lose as long as they can defeat Mafia during the Vote phase, so there should be a VLCR section with all positive Voters. Similarly, Mafia should have WinIfDeadRoles for all positive Voters, since they cannot be removed at all once there are only 0 or negative Voters.
     
  28. VirajVora

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    Ok I added VCLR... WinIfDeadRoles were already in there... Fixed a small JSON Lint error which was there and everything's fine...
     
  29. Fate Testarossa

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    Creativity
    This theme is definitely unique in the aspect of how it flips the way mafia is played. Rather than using PRs to figure out who the mafia are, the village must figure out how to successfully vote the mafia off. It's a change that can alter how the game is played, but the theme is still simple enough for newer players to understand. I'm not too keen on the flavor however, even though there isn't that much you have to work with. Regardless, I'm sure you can make something happen.
    Score: 4/5

    Cohesion

    Basically repeating the same thing from previous reviews, the summary is a bit sloppy and difficult to read. However, it should be a quick and easy fix. The role messages are pretty simple to read if you ask me, and not confusing in any way.
    Score: 3/5

    Craftsmanship

    Mafia will definitely need and appreciate the chance to have a second kill, especially since they can't kill the first night and the Village Elder can help point the village in the right direction. 7 player setups might favor the village since this is the smallest size where they gain the Village Elder but the mafia doesn't gain the second kill chance. 11 player setups might also favor the village. Then again, for games of 8 and up, the chance for the second kill can help nullify any advantages the village may possess. It all can come down to how much information the Village Elder can gather, and simple reasoning from the village. All in all, still a good job balancing. Since this theme revolves around voting, there isn't that much room for mind games (but I can think of a few). Regardless, still a nice job giving each side small advantages that can be utilized without making one side excessively stronger than the other.
    Score: 4/5

    Course

    This theme is relatively simple to learn. The same can be said for playing, as long as players are not reckless in their voting. The tips you added will be quite useful, especially for newer players that may not grasp the concept of this theme as quickly as other players. The pace of the game can vary, especially as the game gets larger. Not only can the mafia not kill the first night, there is no guarantee that the village will vote the first day either. Depending on the information gathered, they might not even vote the second day (or risk tying), although that doesn't seem very likely. While some games might seem slow, they could also end rather quickly, as the mafia have a chance to kill a second person each night. Again, there's no guarantee that the mafia will hit 2 VCLR every night, but it is still a possibility.
    Score: 4/5

    Concept

    What makes this theme fun to play is how it will be played. A few strategies are introduced as village needs to coordinate votes and use the information the Village Elder has to make proper lynches without making it obvious to the mafia who has what vote or who the Village Elder is. It can become a bit luck based if village can't properly coordinate votes, which takes away from the strategy provided by the uniqueness of the theme. A few tweaks could be made, but overall, quite a solid theme.
    Score: 4/5

    Total: 19/25

    Grand Total: 72/100
     
  30. Whereabouts Unknown

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    Enabled for testing. Please add "nonPeak": true, to the theme.

    (16:01:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:01:14) ±Game: Miki Sayaka started a voting for next game's theme! You have 20 seconds to vote with /vote or /votetheme!
    (16:01:14) ±Game: Choose from these themes: Default, Vote, Elements, PotC, Cosa, SSBB !
    (16:01:14) ***************************************************************************************

    (16:01:14) ±Game: Miki Sayaka voted for Vote!
    (16:01:19) Honey Senpai: Hey demigods! Let's kick out the God of gods/goddesses!
    (16:01:19) Miki Sayaka: ./vote vote
    (16:01:20) ±Game: Karp Karpity voted for Vote!
    (16:01:20) ±Game: RiceKirby voted for Vote!
    (16:01:24) ±Game: IronStorm voted for Vote!
    (16:01:29) ±Game: Diablos Nacho voted for SSBB!
    (16:01:29) RiceKirby: ./vote²
    (16:01:30) ±Game: LuffyThePichu voted for Vote!
    (16:01:32) ±Game: Honey Senpai voted for Vote!

    (16:01:34) ±Game: Theme Vote won with 6 votes!
    (16:01:34) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!

    (16:01:34) ±Game: 100 years ago, Village had defeated Mafia with their votecount. So long Village has been peacefully living. But who knew the Mafia would return 100 years later to make a sudden attack on the village. Villagers were confident that they will against the Mafia this time too as Mafia's identity was revealed. But soon they realized that their votecount were not 1 and they were anywhere between -3 to +3 because they ate the poisonous berry which was mixed in their food by Mafia. Mafia were making this poisonous berry for 100 years only to take revenge on the Village who defeated them earlier. Having no other choice they decided to ask help from Village Elder who can find out votecount of villagers with his experience in medical field. But Village Elder had memory issues and now he takes whole 24 hours to remember the votecount of 1 person. The battle has just begun. Will Village Elder help Village to defeat Mafia on time or will Mafia take their 100 years old revenge successfully ? Best Of Luck... NEW PLAYERS PLEASE READ /TIPS SECTION... VirajVora...
    (16:01:34) ±Game: Miki Sayaka, Karp Karpity, RiceKirby, IronStorm, LuffyThePichu, Honey Senpai joined the game!
    (16:01:37) ±Game: bugzinator joined the game!
    (16:01:38) Miki Sayaka: let's see if all the positive voters get murdered
    (16:01:41) RiceKirby: Wow that summary
    (16:01:43) ±Game: LuffyThePichu unjoined the game!

    (16:01:44) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (16:01:46) LuffyThePichu left the channel.
    (16:01:51) ±Game: Diablos Nacho joined the game!
    (16:01:52) Miki Sayaka: that's even bigger than EV's
    (16:01:58) ±Game: Ascarotte joined the game!
    (16:02:02) Miki Sayaka: probably Outbreak's too
    (16:02:02) Cerbrus changed names and is now known as Village Elder.
    (16:02:06) ±Dratini: eevee22 was mysteriously kicked by Atli! [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (16:02:06) ±Game: You already joined!
    (16:02:08) ±Game: Village Elder joined the game!
    (16:02:09) RiceKirby: Summary doesn't say almost anything useful
    (16:02:14) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:02:14) Times Up! :
    (16:02:14) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (16:02:14) ±Game: You are a Village Elder!
    (16:02:14) ±Game: You are the most respected village elder. Village lost their votecount because of eating poisonous berry made by Mafia. Only you in whole village can tell the votecounts of all people with your experience in Medical field. Unfortunately due to your memory problems, you need 24 hours to remember votecount of each person. You can inspect any Villager to find their votecount using /inspect (name). You can inspect only upto 3 times. Your vote is 0.
    (16:02:14) ±Game: The Mafia is Honey Senpai, Diablos Nacho, Village Elder!
    (16:02:14) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Mafia, Village Elder, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:02:14) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, Miki Sayaka, RiceKirby, Village Elder, bugzinator.
    (16:02:14) ±Current Team: Village Elder, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:02:14) ±Time: Night 1
    (16:02:14) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (16:02:14) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:02:19) RiceKirby: Wow the border
    (16:02:21) Karp Karpity: that border
    (16:02:24) Miki Sayaka: gg Honey Senpai
    (16:02:28) Honey Senpai: ?
    (16:02:29) Miki Sayaka: Village Elder bus pls
    (16:02:31) Ascarotte: o.k
    (16:02:33) ±Game: You have chosen to inspect Ascarotte!
    (16:02:43) Karp Karpity: a normalm border would do better
    (16:02:44) Karp Karpity: imo
    (16:02:45) 91 joined the channel.
    (16:02:49) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:02:49) Times Up! :
    (16:02:49) ±Game: You can inspect 2 more times.
    (16:02:49) ±Info: Ascarotte is the Villager with +2 votecount!!
    (16:02:49) No one died! :
    (16:02:49) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:02:49) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Mafia, Village Elder, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:02:49) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, Miki Sayaka, RiceKirby, Village Elder, bugzinator.
    (16:02:49) ±Current Team: Village Elder, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:02:49) ±Time: Day 1 (Standby)
    (16:02:49) You have 25 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (16:02:49) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:02:53) Karp Karpity: normal*
    (16:02:56) RedJoker25 joined the channel.
    (16:03:03) Miki Sayaka: alright
    (16:03:09) RiceKirby: Damn people that play with borders without testing :x
    (16:03:11) Miki Sayaka: let's try Honey first
    (16:03:14) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:03:14) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Mafia, Village Elder, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:03:14) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, Miki Sayaka, RiceKirby, Village Elder, bugzinator.
    (16:03:14) ±Current Team: Village Elder, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:03:14) ±Time: Day 1 (Voting)
    (16:03:14) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
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    (16:03:24) bugzinator: why does this theme looks kinda weird
    (16:03:26) ±Game: Ascarotte votes Honey Senpai.
    (16:03:27) ±Game: Miki Sayaka votes Honey Senpai.
    (16:03:29) ±Game: Village Elder votes Ascarotte.
    (16:03:29) Miki Sayaka: err
    (16:03:30) ±Game: Karp Karpity votes IronStorm.
    (16:03:30) Miki Sayaka: no one else
    (16:03:31) ±Game: IronStorm votes Diablos Nacho.
    (16:03:32) Miki Sayaka: vote for now
    (16:03:34) ±Game: Diablos Nacho votes Ascarotte.
    (16:03:35) Miki Sayaka: o_k
    (16:03:35) ±Game: Honey Senpai votes Ascarotte.
    (16:03:38) ±Game: bugzinator votes Honey Senpai.
    (16:03:39) RiceKirby: Wow don't /roles
    (16:03:42) ±Game: RiceKirby votes Honey Senpai.
    (16:03:42) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:03:42) Times Up! :
    (16:03:42) ±Game: Ascarotte (Villager) was killed during the day.
    (16:03:42) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:03:42) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Mafia, Village Elder, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:03:42) ±Current Players: Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, Miki Sayaka, RiceKirby, Village Elder, bugzinator.
    (16:03:42) ±Current Team: Village Elder, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:03:42) ±Time: Night 2
    (16:03:42) Make your moves, you only have 25 seconds! :
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    (16:03:50) Water joined the channel.
    (16:03:53) bugzinator: many dots
    (16:03:55) Miki Sayaka: aaand gg
    (16:03:59) RiceKirby: The /roles could be better organized
    (16:04:01) ±Game: You have chosen to inspect bugzinator!
    (16:04:07) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:04:07) Times Up! :
    (16:04:07) ±Game: You died.
    (16:04:07) ±Kill: Miki Sayaka (Village Elder) was killed in the night by Mafia.
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    (16:04:07) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:04:07) ±Current Players: Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, RiceKirby, Village Elder, bugzinator.
    (16:04:07) ±Time: Day 2 (Standby)
    (16:04:07) You have 25 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
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    (16:04:07) Miki Sayaka: [Dead] also this is impossibly imbalanced
    (16:04:11) Karp Karpity: fuk
    (16:04:12) Miki Sayaka: [Dead] village can't win
    (16:04:19) Karp Karpity: so we have to vote?
    (16:04:21) Pesadelo left the channel.
    (16:04:23) Village Elder: there goes your votecounts
    (16:04:24) Karp Karpity: is that correct?
    (16:04:32) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:04:32) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:04:32) ±Current Players: Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, RiceKirby, Village Elder, bugzinator.
    (16:04:32) ±Time: Day 2 (Voting)
    (16:04:32) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
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    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Mafia
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Can kill 1 people with /kill night 2. Has Vote of 0.9. Sided with Mafia..
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 3-7 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Mafia
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Can kill 2 people with /kill and /kill2 where kill2 has 50% chance of success from night 2. Has Vote of 0.9. Sided with Mafia.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 8-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Village Elder
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Can inspect a villager to find his votecount upto 3 times. Has Vote of 0. Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 7-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Has Vote between -3 to 3. Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 4-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Has Vote between -3 to 3.Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 1-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Has Vote between -3 to 3.Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 5-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Has Vote between -3 to 3.Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 6-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Has Vote between -3 to 3.Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 2-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Has Vote between -3 to 3.Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 5-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Has Vote between -3 to 3. Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: 6-12 Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager with +1 votecount
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager with +2 votecount
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager with +3 votecount
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager with -1 votecount
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager with -2 votecount
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager with -3 votecount
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:33) ±Role: Villager with 0 votecount
    (16:04:33) ±Ability: Sided with Village.
    (16:04:33) ±Players: Players
    (16:04:33) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (16:04:38) ±Game: Honey Senpai votes IronStorm.
    (16:04:39) IronStorm: Pretty much
    (16:04:39) ±Game: Karp Karpity votes IronStorm.
    (16:04:40) ±Game: Village Elder votes IronStorm.
    (16:04:43) ±Game: Diablos Nacho votes IronStorm.
    (16:04:45) IronStorm: Oh come on
    (16:04:46) RiceKirby: What are you guys doing?
    (16:04:47) ±Game: IronStorm votes Honey Senpai.
    (16:04:50) Honey Senpai: hi
    (16:04:52) Miki Sayaka: [Dead] rofl
    (16:04:52) ±Game: bugzinator votes Honey Senpai.
    (16:04:52) IronStorm: Karp, I'm not mafia
    (16:04:58) Village Elder: can be -
    (16:04:59) Village Elder: vote
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    (16:05:02) Times Up! :
    (16:05:02) ±Game: Honey Senpai (Mafia) was killed during the day.
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    (16:05:02) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:05:02) ±Current Players: Diablos Nacho, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, RiceKirby, Village Elder, bugzinator.
    (16:05:02) ±Time: Night 3
    (16:05:02) Make your moves, you only have 25 seconds! :
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    (16:05:03) bugzinator: yeah
    (16:05:05) bugzinator: woop
    (16:05:05) Ascarotte: [Dead] it worked
    (16:05:05) Honey Senpai: [Dead] rufe
    (16:05:06) RiceKirby: Oh look
    (16:05:10) Miki Sayaka: [Dead] bugz is exposed positive voter
    (16:05:12) Miki Sayaka: [Dead] game over
    (16:05:12) bugzinator: the power of random
    (16:05:13) IronStorm: True
    (16:05:14) bugzinator: numbers
    (16:05:19) Honey Senpai: [Dead] Dumn
    (16:05:24) Karp Karpity: did my - help?
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    (16:05:27) Times Up! :
    (16:05:27) ±Kill: IronStorm (Villager) was killed in the night by Mafia.
    (16:05:27) ±Game: The Mafia ( Diablos Nacho and Village Elder ) have successfully took control of the Village.
    (16:05:27) ±Game: The Village (bugzinator, RiceKirby and Karp Karpity) lose!
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    (16:05:27) ±Murkrow: Murkrow enabled non-peak themes (C14, Dethy, Ghosts, Oracle, RPS, Vengeful, dog, Vote).
    (16:05:28) Miki Sayaka: yeah
    (16:05:32) Miki Sayaka: balance is
    (16:05:32) Karp Karpity: wow
    (16:05:34) Miki Sayaka: problem
    (16:05:38) Karp Karpity: why end?
    (16:05:41) RiceKirby: No, /roles is the problem
    (16:05:43) RiceKirby: And summary
    (16:05:44) Village Elder: r.i.p others didn't have enough relevant vote
    (16:05:45) Miki Sayaka: no more positive votes
    (16:05:48) IronStorm: I was the last + vote
    (16:05:53) Miki Sayaka: only 2 positive voters and 3 mafias
    (16:05:53) Karp Karpity: ah
    (16:06:02) bugzinator: i was
    (16:06:04) Miki Sayaka: even if you lynched the first 2
    (16:06:07) bugzinator: either +3 or -3
    (16:06:09) Miki Sayaka: the last 1 is immortal
    (16:06:09) bugzinator: q
    (16:06:16) Miki Sayaka: as long as you kill whoever lynched

    Also:
    (15:55:45) ±Murkrow: Minor Errors found in the theme: -Attribute "VillageCantLoseRoles" for "Your theme" should be written as "villageCantLoseRoles". Yeah, weird capitalization.

    Edit:
    (16:13:07) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:13:07) ±Game: Araragi Karen started a game with theme Vote!
    (16:13:07) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
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    (16:13:07) ±Game: 100 years ago, Village had defeated Mafia with their votecount. So long Village has been peacefully living. But who knew the Mafia would return 100 years later to make a sudden attack on the village. Villagers were confident that they will against the Mafia this time too as Mafia's identity was revealed. But soon they realized that their votecount were not 1 and they were anywhere between -3 to +3 because they ate the poisonous berry which was mixed in their food by Mafia. Mafia were making this poisonous berry for 100 years only to take revenge on the Village who defeated them earlier. Having no other choice they decided to ask help from Village Elder who can find out votecount of villagers with his experience in medical field. But Village Elder had memory issues and now he takes whole 24 hours to remember the votecount of 1 person. The battle has just begun. Will Village Elder help Village to defeat Mafia on time or will Mafia take their 100 years old revenge successfully ? Best Of Luck... NEW PLAYERS PLEASE READ /TIPS SECTION... VirajVora...
    (16:13:07) ±Game: Araragi Karen joined the game!
    (16:13:09) ±Game: Araragi Karen unjoined the game!
    (16:13:10) ±Game: RiceKirby joined the game!
    (16:13:11) ±Game: Honey Senpai joined the game!
    (16:13:11) ±Game: Diablos Nacho joined the game!
    (16:13:16) ±Game: Miki Sayaka joined the game!
    (16:13:23) Araragi Karen left the channel.
    (16:13:28) Miki Sayaka: .
    (16:13:32) Limstella changed names and is now known as Village Elder.
    (16:13:32) RiceKirby: Man, that summary
    (16:13:33) ±Game: Village Elder joined the game!

    (16:13:37) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (16:13:37) riko: if only we had dora..
    (16:13:42) Honey Senpai: ^
    (16:13:43) Miki Sayaka: rip
    (16:13:51) ±Game: Samaritan joined the game!
    (16:13:59) RiceKirby: I remember the time the sMAs wanted to forbid actual summaries because people made them too long
    (16:14:02) Miki Sayaka: blame oppression
    (16:14:07) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:14:07) Times Up! :
    (16:14:07) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (16:14:07) ±Game: You are a Villager!
    (16:14:07) ±Game: You are a normal citizen of Village. You have to defeat the revealed Mafia with the help of your vote. However you ate a poisonous berry made by Mafia. So you can have any votecount between -3 to +3. You have to vote safely in order to remove Mafia.
    (16:14:07) ±Game: The Mafia is Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai!
    (16:14:07) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:14:07) ±Current Players: Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, Miki Sayaka, RiceKirby, Samaritan, Village Elder.
    (16:14:07) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:14:07) ±Time: Night 1
    (16:14:07) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
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    (16:14:17) Miki Sayaka: Cool I have a positive vote
    (16:14:18) RiceKirby: Honey Senpai, why do I keep getting reveal on you?
    (16:14:29) Honey Senpai: idk
    (16:14:37) Samaritan: pir
    (16:14:37) Honey Senpai: maybe you're broken
    (16:14:41) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:14:41) Times Up! :
    (16:14:41) No one died! :
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    (16:14:41) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:14:41) ±Current Players: Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, Miki Sayaka, RiceKirby, Samaritan, Village Elder.
    (16:14:42) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:14:42) ±Time: Day 1 (Standby)
    (16:14:42) You have 25 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
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    (16:14:47) RiceKirby: PL got a mafia
    (16:14:59) Miki Sayaka: Elder PM pls
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    (16:15:06) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:15:06) ±Current Players: Diablos Nacho, Honey Senpai, Miki Sayaka, RiceKirby, Samaritan, Village Elder.
    (16:15:06) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:15:06) ±Time: Day 1 (Voting)
    (16:15:06) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
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    (16:15:08) ±Game: Honey Senpai votes RiceKirby.
    (16:15:12) ±Game: RiceKirby votes Honey Senpai.
    (16:15:13) RiceKirby: pls
    (16:15:17) ±Game: Diablos Nacho votes RiceKirby.
    (16:15:23) ±Game: Village Elder votes Diablos Nacho.
    (16:15:29) ±Game: Miki Sayaka votes RiceKirby.
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    (16:15:37) Times Up! :
    (16:15:37) ±Game: Diablos Nacho (Mafia) was killed during the day.
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    (16:15:37) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:15:37) ±Current Players: Honey Senpai, Miki Sayaka, RiceKirby, Samaritan, Village Elder.
    (16:15:37) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:15:37) ±Time: Night 2
    (16:15:37) Make your moves, you only have 25 seconds! :
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    (16:15:42) RiceKirby: Oh cool
    (16:15:56) Miki Sayaka: .
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    (16:16:02) Times Up! :
    (16:16:02) ±Kill: RiceKirby (Villager) was killed in the night by Mafia.
    (16:16:02) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (16:16:02) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:16:02) ±Current Players: Honey Senpai, Miki Sayaka, Samaritan, Village Elder.
    (16:16:02) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:16:02) ±Time: Day 2 (Standby)
    (16:16:02) You have 25 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
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    (16:16:08) Samaritan: '-'
    (16:16:23) Miki Sayaka: why not kill VE
    (16:16:26) Miki Sayaka: who has + voe
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    (16:16:26) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (16:16:26) ±Current Players: Honey Senpai, Miki Sayaka, Samaritan, Village Elder.
    (16:16:26) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager
    (16:16:26) ±Time: Day 2 (Voting)
    (16:16:26) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
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    (16:16:28) ±Game: Village Elder votes Honey Senpai.
    (16:16:38) ±Game: Honey Senpai votes Miki Sayaka.
    (16:16:39) Miki Sayaka: no one else voe
    (16:16:44) Miki Sayaka: they can't win 1v1
    (16:16:52) Miki Sayaka: not that VE has votes
    (16:16:54) Village Elder: miki revealed yourself - vote rite ?
    (16:16:55) Samaritan: e.e
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    (16:16:57) Times Up! :
    (16:16:57) ±Game: Honey Senpai (Mafia) was killed during the day.
    (16:16:57) ±Game: The Villagers ( Village Elder, Miki Sayaka and Samaritan ) with their voting powers have saved their Village.
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    (16:17:05) Karp Karpity: yay
    (16:17:05) Village Elder: lol

    (16:17:05) *** ::: ::: Log for Vote-themed mafia game ::: ::: ***
    (16:17:05) Players: Village Elder (Villager), Diablos Nacho (Mafia), Miki Sayaka (Villager), Samaritan (Villager), Honey Senpai (Mafia), RiceKirby (Villager)
    (16:17:05) *** NIGHT PHASE 1 ***
    (16:17:05) Diablos Nacho used: /kill Miki Sayaka
    (16:17:05) *** STANDBY PHASE 1 ***
    (16:17:05) *** VOTING PHASE 1 ***
    (16:17:05) Honey Senpai used: /vote RiceKirby
    (16:17:05) RiceKirby used: /vote Honey Senpai
    (16:17:05) Diablos Nacho used: /vote RiceKirby
    (16:17:05) Village Elder used: /vote Diablos Nacho
    (16:17:05) Miki Sayaka used: /vote RiceKirby
    (16:17:05) Lynched: Diablos Nacho (Mafia)
    (16:17:05) *** NIGHT PHASE 2 ***
    (16:17:05) Honey Senpai used: /kill RiceKirby
    (16:17:05) *** STANDBY PHASE 2 ***
    (16:17:05) *** VOTING PHASE 2 ***
    (16:17:05) Village Elder used: /vote Honey Senpai
    (16:17:05) Honey Senpai used: /vote Miki Sayaka
    (16:17:05) Lynched: Honey Senpai (Mafia)
    (16:17:05) *** GAME END ***
    (16:17:05) Winners: Village (Village Elder, Miki Sayaka and Samaritan)

    (16:17:10) Diablos Nacho: lol
    (16:17:13) Miki Sayaka: (16:17:05) Players: Village Elder (Villager), Diablos Nacho (Mafia), Miki Sayaka (Villager), Samaritan (Villager), Honey Senpai (Mafia), RiceKirby (Villager)
    (16:17:13) Miki Sayaka: gdi
    (16:17:20) RiceKirby: Those spaces in the parenthesis are bothering me :x
    (16:17:21) Miki Sayaka: can't look up votes
    (16:17:36) riko: The summary is so painful to read
    (16:17:38) Samaritan: gj
     
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  31. Withoutatrace

    Withoutatrace im a filthy weeb

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    Is there anyway you can trim down the Summary of the theme when it starts? cba to remember what that is called, and cba to read all of that shit.

    tldr - it's a bit long for the purpose of it, so if you can shorten it, great.
     
  32. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    "a bit long" is an understatement. The summary is exaggerately long, and most of it is pure lore. For a theme with such an unique concept like this one, you should focus on having the summary explain quickly the main points of the theme (mafia known by all and the plus/minus zero vote total things). Try moving some of the lore to the roles and other game messages (like lynch message, death message, etc), and make the summary around 1/3 or 1/4 of its current length.

    Also, trimming the /roles is highly recommended. You only need 4 of those roles appearing there, for all others add a "hide": true.
    And the border too. That didn't work too well, it would be better to remove the customized border for now and try testing it before adding a new, but the main tip there is to add a *** at the beginning so it will have the pink color, or a : at the end so it will have a green color.
     
  33. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    Minor Changes made and add to theme + Updated Theme...

    1) Changed Summary and made it smaller... (Creativity is most difficult task in the world...)
    2) Changed the Summary of all roles accordingly and made it few words lesser...
    3) Added *** before border to make it pink colored... (Will be changed if issues stays...)
    4) Added "hide": "true", in all dummy and repeated roles...


    Major Changes want to make but will wait for permission from QCs...

    Well I just seen the logs and found a thing which I didn't think of earlier through which will any player wont play this game...
    First of all, because of Spawn Feature, there are all possible combinations which will be added in the theme... Meaning at 5 players, the possible combinations will be Villagers will votecount {+1,+1,-1,-1};{+2,0,-1,-1};{+1,+1,0,-2};{+2,0,0,-2}... Now here any possible combination is possible... So in short Players at start won't know what possible role would they be... Even when Players die, they won't know what actually was their role... So any Villager playing the game would not know what their role was at the start as well after end... They just decide to vote or not to vote and the game ends... Any player would not like to play a game where they don't know their real role even after game ends...

    There is Dethy where people don't know the role from start till end but there is a way through which they can find out and that way is pretty easy to figure out... But in Vote, there is nothing a player can do except for hoping Village Elder does the stuff for him...

    So I thought of doing the following stuff...

    In the current roles, I will add Villager(+1), Villager(+2),Villager(-1) and so on... Along with that the player that died will also know what role actually was he...

    Side Effects - By this players and mafia can find out the remaining roles votecount... Both can do some strategy's for it and strategy's will be almost same for both side... So this thing wont change the balance of the game...


    Another stuff I want to change but I don't know how to do it :[

    Just like Mafia cannot target their teammates for killing, similarly I want a command through which Village Elder can't inspect Mafia as well as self... Village Elder inspecting Mafia is useless and if newbies do this thing, it's just a waste of inspect... I tried finding it on How to Make Mafia Themes but didn't find it...
     
  34. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Can't you simply use "target": "OnlyTeammate", as target mode for Elder instead then "target": "AnyButSelf", ?
     
  35. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    Alright did this for now and updated the theme...
     
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    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    IMO, do that. Even if it can benefit mafia too, it will help Village a lot more, and it will also make the game flow better. Doing exactly the same as Dethy could work too (numbers only revealed at N1, then hidden after that).
    Also, I suggest avoiding Villagers with 0 votes (or at least having very few of those). Reason is that Villagers with negative vote still can help the vote, but those with 0 are absolutely unable to help their team at all, which can be quite frustrating and help mafia too much.
     
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    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    Ok some shit happened due to VCLR...

    (00:23:23) ***************************************************************************************
    (00:23:23) ±Game: VirajVora started a voting for next game's theme! You have 20 seconds to vote with /vote or /votetheme!
    (00:23:23) ±Game: Choose from these themes: Default, Vote, Trainers, MP, AC, Oracle !
    (00:23:23) ***************************************************************************************

    (00:23:23) ±Game: VirajVora voted for Vote!
    (00:23:26) Ascarotte: silly
    (00:23:29) Leonez: Zzz
    (00:23:36) Limstella: Leonez missed game night
    (00:23:40) Leonez: I KNOW

    (00:23:42) ±Game: Theme Vote won with 1 votes!
    (00:23:42) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!

    (00:23:42) ±Game: One day Villagers found that their votecount has been changed by Mafia players with some technology. They found who the Mafia were but their votecount was anywhere between -3 to +3. So Villagers went to Villager Elder who knows how to find the true votecount of players. However Village Elder had some memory issues and takes 24 hours to find their votecount. Will Village Elder help Village to defeat Mafia on time or will Mafia take control over the Village ? Best Of Luck... NEW PLAYERS PLEASE READ /TIPS SECTION... VirajVora...
    (00:23:42) ±Game: VirajVora joined the game!
    (00:23:42) Leonez: DONT REMIND ME
    (00:23:47) ±Game: Jethalal joined the game!
    (00:23:51) Limstella changed names and is now known as Village Elder.

    (00:23:51) Leonez: I WANNA KILL SOMEONE

    (00:23:52) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (00:23:52) ±Game: Village Elder joined the game!
    (00:23:56) VirajVora: Lol
    (00:23:56) ±Game: Leonez joined the game!
    (00:24:00) *** Village Elder reminds Leonez that he missed game night
    (00:24:07) Village Elder: jk
    (00:24:09) Jethalal: game night time is always odd for me :c
    (00:24:11) Village Elder: didn't
    (00:24:16) VirajVora: Leonez did u miss game night ?
    (00:24:22) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:24:22) Times Up! :
    (00:24:22) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (00:24:22) ±Game: You are a Villager!
    (00:24:22) ±Game: You are a normal citizen of Village. You have to defeat the revealed Mafia with the help of your vote. However your votecount was altered by Mafia. So you can have any votecount between -3 to +3. You have to vote safely in order to remove Mafia.
    (00:24:22) ±Game: The Mafia is Jethalal!
    (00:24:22) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (00:24:22) ±Current Players: Jethalal, Leonez, Village Elder, VirajVora.
    (00:24:22) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager
    (00:24:22) ±Time: Night 1
    (00:24:22) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (00:24:22) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:24:23) Village Elder: '
    (00:24:26) Leonez: ,
    (00:23:30) VirajVora: Someone has +1,0,-1 vote
    (00:23:38) Leonez: i don't
    (00:23:40) Leonez: get this
    (00:23:41) Leonez: wtf
    (00:23:41) VirajVora: 2 player vote mafia N1 is best...
    (00:23:47) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:23:47) Times Up! :
    (00:23:47) No one died! :
    (00:23:47) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:23:47) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (00:23:47) ±Current Players: Jethalal, Leonez, Village Elder, VirajVora.
    (00:23:47) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager
    (00:23:47) ±Time: Day 1 (Standby)
    (00:23:47) You have 25 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (00:23:47) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:23:47) VirajVora: Leonez... /tips
    (00:24:03) Village Elder: you sure you don't want to lynch it ?
    (00:24:12) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:24:12) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager.
    (00:24:12) ±Current Players: Jethalal, Leonez, Village Elder, VirajVora.
    (00:24:12) ±Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager
    (00:24:12) ±Time: Day 1 (Voting)
    (00:24:12) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (00:24:12) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:24:14) VirajVora: Only 2 villagers must vote Jethala... Not all 3...
    (00:24:17) Challenge Cup battle between VirajVora and Explorer MrNebowang started.

    (00:24:28) VirajVora: Village vote,
    (00:24:32) ±Game: VirajVora votes Jethalal.
    (00:24:37) VirajVora: vote vote vote
    (00:24:40) ±Game: Jethalal votes VirajVora.
    (00:24:42) ±Game: Leonez votes Jethalal.
    (00:24:44) VirajVora: syop
    (00:24:46) VirajVora: stop
    (00:24:49) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:24:49) Times Up! :
    (00:24:49) ±Game: VirajVora (Villager) was killed during the day.
    (00:24:49) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:24:49) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager.
    (00:24:49) ±Current Players: Jethalal, Leonez, Village Elder.
    (00:24:49) ±Time: Night 2
    (00:24:49) Make your moves, you only have 25 seconds! :
    (00:24:49) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:24:49) VirajVora: [Dead] dont vote
    (00:25:14) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:25:14) Times Up! :
    (00:25:14) ±Kill: Leonez (Villager) was killed in the night by Mafia.
    (00:25:14) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:25:14) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager.
    (00:25:14) ±Current Players: Jethalal, Village Elder.
    (00:25:14) ±Time: Day 2 (Standby)
    (00:25:14) You have 25 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (00:25:14) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:25:31) Village Elder: good one
    (00:25:33) VirajVora: [Dead] Village wins..
    (00:25:39) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:25:39) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager.
    (00:25:39) ±Current Players: Jethalal, Village Elder.
    (00:25:39) ±Time: Day 2 (Voting)
    (00:25:39) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (00:25:39) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:25:42) ±Game: Village Elder votes Jethalal.
    (00:25:57) ±Game: Jethalal votes Village Elder.
    (00:25:57) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:25:57) Times Up! :
    (00:25:57) ±Game: Jethalal (Mafia) was killed during the day.
    (00:25:57) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:25:57) ±Current Roles: Villager.
    (00:25:57) ±Current Players: Village Elder.
    (00:25:57) ±Time: Night 3
    (00:25:57) Make your moves, you only have 25 seconds! :
    (00:25:57) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:26:07) *** Village Elder yawns
    (00:26:13) VirajVora: [Dead] wtf ?
    (00:26:16) Jethalal: [Dead] wut is left now?

    (00:26:22) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:26:22) Times Up! :
    (00:26:22) No one died! :
    (00:26:22) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:26:22) ±Current Roles: Villager.
    (00:26:22) ±Current Players: Village Elder.
    (00:26:22) ±Time: Day 3 (Standby)
    (00:26:22) You have 25 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (00:26:22) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:26:28) Jethalal: [Dead] lol
    (00:26:32) *** Village Elder yawns around
    (00:26:43) Village Elder: well look on
    (00:26:45) Village Elder: the bright side
    (00:26:47) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:26:47) ±Current Roles: Villager.
    (00:26:47) ±Current Players: Village Elder.
    (00:26:47) ±Time: Day 3 (Voting)
    (00:26:47) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (00:26:47) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:26:49) Village Elder: mafia channel is
    (00:26:51) Village Elder: forever active now
    (00:26:52) Village Elder: !
    (00:26:59) Jethalal: [Dead] lmao
    (00:27:17) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:27:17) Times Up! :
    (00:27:17) No one was voted off!:
    (00:27:17) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:27:17) ±Current Roles: Villager.
    (00:27:17) ±Current Players: Village Elder.
    (00:27:17) ±Time: Night 4
    (00:27:17) Make your moves, you only have 25 seconds! :
    (00:27:17) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:27:42) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:27:42) Times Up! :
    (00:27:42) No one died! :
    (00:27:42) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:27:42) ±Current Roles: Villager.
    (00:27:42) ±Current Players: Village Elder.
    (00:27:42) ±Time: Day 4 (Standby)
    (00:27:42) You have 25 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (00:27:42) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:28:07) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:28:07) ±Current Roles: Villager.
    (00:28:07) ±Current Players: Village Elder.
    (00:28:07) ±Time: Day 4 (Voting)
    (00:28:07) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (00:28:07) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:28:10) Cheeseburger: oh
    (00:28:14) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
    (00:28:14) ±Game: Cheeseburger has stopped the game!
    (00:28:14) *** ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...



    So If Village wins with ONLY POSITIVE VILLAGERS ALIVE (VCLR), then game wont end... Confused about how to fix it... Need help from someone on how to do it ?
     
  38. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    It's because you don't have an actual village side.
    Code (text):
    1.  
    2. "sides": [
    3.         {
    4.             "side": "Village",
    5.             "translation": "Village",
    6.             "winmsg": "The Villagers ( ~Players~ ) with their voting powers have saved their Village."
    7.         },
    The "side": "Village" should be "side": "village" (lower case V). Otherwise, the side will be considered a mafia team (you will have to change that on all village roles too).
     
  39. VirajVora

    VirajVora VirajVora...

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    Ok then, I made this small change and updated it...

    I am still waiting for more people and QC's to reply for the major change I mentioned earlier...
     
  40. Whereabouts Unknown

    Whereabouts Unknown Absolutely Stunning Forum Moderator Channel Leader Forum Moderator Channel Leader

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    Yes, giving the vote counts the first Night would be a good addition I think. Look at the code of Dethy for how to do this.

    A couple other comments: playing Mafia has almost no intrigue, because the strategy is extremely straightforward. The only decisions to make are to vote or kill whoever has the positive Vote, who usually reveals themselves pretty clearly. It could be interesting to give them hidden Votes like village, or at least varied Votes that only the Mafia knows.

    Another idea I had was to give everyone a +100 voteshield. This would allow 0 Vote or even negative Vote roles to win against Mafia, making it more difficult for Mafia to figure out who is positive.

    For instance, if you had Villager (-2) Village (-1) vs Mafia (0.9), Village won't have lost if they can figure out which of them has -2. Mafia votes Villager (-2), Villager (-2) selfvotes, Villager (-1) votes Mafia. Villager (-2) ends up with 100+0.9-2 votecount = 98.9, Mafia (0.9) ends up with 100-1 votecount = 99 votecount. 99>98.9, so Mafia is lynched and Village wins.

    Enabling 0s or negatives to lynch Mafia would help the flow of the game I think. 100 seems arbitrary, so it can be explained by "you can be lynched even if your vote count was negative." It's an idea at least.

    Also I didn't know non-village roles could even be in VCLR. I feel like working that into a theme now.