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Discussion in 'Review' started by Micaiah, Jul 8, 2014.

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  1. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Guys remember that a theme needs only 4 reviews. It would be good to concentrate to the other themes now.
     
  2. Whereabouts Unknown

    Whereabouts Unknown Absolutely Stunning Forum Moderator Channel Leader Forum Moderator Channel Leader

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    "If a theme fails to achieve the required number of points for approval but earns at least 60 points, the theme will be granted a testing period of 2 weeks. After the testing period is over, new reviews will be made for the theme."

    62/100

    Test incoming. Let's all get on the server and test it sometime!
     
  3. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Didn't this theme already get a test before? Maybe it would be better to wait for a few modification before giving a new one, since otherwise there's no reason to expect different results.
     
  4. Whereabouts Unknown

    Whereabouts Unknown Absolutely Stunning Forum Moderator Channel Leader Forum Moderator Channel Leader

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    Yes, that's a good point. Personally, as a Reviewer, I want to test to get a feel for the theme, since I don't remember too much of the experience of playing it from several months ago. But if the other Reviewers object (and it seems they generally do have a feel for the theme) I could be convinced it doesn't need one. It would also help if the theme creators were active in this discussion.
     
  5. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    I understand you dislike this theme.
    Stop trying to sway the reviews in a certain direction.
     
  6. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    that's not the point, the point is QC is still giving subpar reviews (in his eyes) because we're not adequately justifying scores based on the evaluations we give them. although I disagree with the extent he's picking at our reviews it's a valid concern

    imo I'd rather not retest this since it had quite an extensive testing period last time iirc
     
  7. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    No need to nitpick at every single detail that he doesn't agree with in a review though, this isn't even his theme. I would love to see this come from the theme author though.
     
  8. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Yes, I hate the theme so much that I even pointed that one of the reviews added up less points than it actually gave. I'm so focused into burning this theme that I even complained about a 25/25 rating one of my own themes got.

    Please, my focus for a while (and by this, I mean way before this thread was even created) has been improving the quality of the QC System. This new criteria system was created based on my suggestion, so I'm going around pointing how this new system can be better used. Just pay attention and you will see I'm not even talking about the theme anymore, but about how some parts of the reviews are not matching with their scores (AKA I'm not demanding scores reduced, but asking for detailed feedback on the rates given). I also didn't say the theme shouldn't be re-tested, I said it shouldn't be before changes are made, since on the current state it didn't achieve enough to get approved.

    You know, my goal is to see better feedback from the reviewers. Good feedback can only make a theme better.
     
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    Pangaea resto en peaco

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    He's only trying to make the theme better. By improving reviews and giving suggestions for the reviews, he's helping the QC system improve, thus improving the theme itself. I'm not sure where you got the idea that he "dislikes" this theme, but I'm sure he doesn't.

    Also, why can only the theme author give feedback on your reviews? Ricekirby is a very experienced mafia player and mafia theme maker, and he's been around for a while so if he's going to offer advice, then I would take it. It's ok for him to give feedback, he doesn't necessarily have to be the theme author in order to do so.
     
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    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Thanks Rice. i felt awkward giving such a low score but rip its too late .
     
  11. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    Where did I say only the theme author can give feedback? I appreciate @IceKirby 's feedback but everything he has said about the reviews seems to be trying to lessen the points we give for a criteria. Nothing about trying to bring any of them up. And if there is nothing on that side, say so, so that people don't start to think you want the reviews swayed a certain way.
    And never did I say I don't like his going over the reviews, I actually do but felt the need to point this out.
     
  12. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    It is so hard to understand that I want to see arguments and score matching? Reducing the points is not the only way to do it, it's possible to simply point the positives that led to those scores.
    Someone saying "X is bad, Y is weird, Z doesn't work, but here's a 4/5" is clearly contradictory, but if it was "X, Y and Z are weird, but A is good, B is interesting and C is awesome, so 4/5" then it would make a lot more sense.
     
  13. Pangaea

    Pangaea resto en peaco

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    I don't see how he's trying to lessen the points, all he's doing is asking reviewers to back up their reviews with more examples as to why they gave a specific grade. Like he said, it doesn't make sense if someone says "X, Y, and Z don't really make sense and the theme is confusing, but I'll give you a 23/25" He wants reviewers to back up their reviews with more examples. If you're going to give out a 4/5, you should provide reasoning for why you're giving that specific score. That's all he's saying, he's not telling anyone to lower their review scores.
     
  14. Withoutatrace

    Withoutatrace im a filthy weeb

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    Hi.

    I'm generally tired of this constant bickering over stupid, minuscule shit in this /one/ thread.
    It's only really this thread, too, so you can assume where I'm going with this.
    I had suggested it before, but everything calmed down, yet now it's starting shit. I'll be talking to specific people in the next few days, and evaluate QC and see where things need to be changed, but otherwise, this theme is declined, and will not be on server, and thus being locked.

    PM me if you have questions.
     
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