[Skeleton] Wynaut

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  1. Pangaea

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    Wynaut
    Stats:
    95 | 23 | 48 | 23 | 48 | 23
    Total: 260
    Pros:

    + Has some considerable bulk with a nice HP stat.
    + Very bulky when holding the Eviolite.
    + Shadow Tag allows him to switch into Choice Banded/Specs Pokemon and defeat them.
    + Ability compliments his extremely limited movepool allowing him to do some serious damage to opposing teams.
    + Despite having very low Attacking and Speed stats, this does not matter as his two main moves only work when they go last and he does not have to rely on his Attack or Special Attack for damage.
    + Only has three main weaknesses, which are Dark, Ghost and Bug, all of which do not appreciate a Counter or Mirror Coat to the face.
    + Enough bulk to barely survive a strong hit and then strike back with immense power.
    + Can take advantage of his low speed to Encore any stallers/walls.

    Cons:

    - Can not do any direct damage as his only damaging moves rely on the opponents attacks.
    - Very weak to status moves, especially toxic stall.
    - Although Eviolite boosts Wynaut's defense, his stats are still very low and mediocre.
    - Only has one possible strategy which can be seen from a mile away. An extremely limited movepool and the inability to learn any TMs contributes to this.
    - If trapped in battle or taunted, could easily be setup on.
    - No reliable recovery means that Burn/Poison is ensured to slowly but surely take Wynaut out.
    - Although he has Safeguard, Wynaut is too slow that usually the opponent will be able to do some sort of status infliction before Safeguard goes up.

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    Wynaut (M) @ Berry Juice
    Trait: Shadow tag
    EVs: 164 HP / 132 Def / 212 SpD
    IVs: 0 Attack
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Counter
    - Mirror Coat
    - Encore
    - Tickle / Safeguard / Destiny Bond

    Details:
    - Pretty much the only known Wynaut set. Extremely limited movepool contributes to this as he can only learn seven moves while leveling up.
    - His EV spread allows him to take just enough damage to stay alive, but also allowing him to hit back with lots of power. Zero IVs in Attack reduces the power from Foul Play.
    - Encore is a great move on Wynaut as well. Because he is very slow, he can easily Encore any stallers or walls and trap them into a move.
    - Tickle lowers the Attack and Defense of a Pokemon by one stage, which could be helpful at times.

    - Safeguard protects his team from status while at the same time protecting Wynaut from Toxic Stall.
    - Bold nature is preferred as it gives him the extra bulk and reduces Foul Play damage.
    - Berry Juice is pretty obvious, it gives him some reliable recovery.

    - Destiny Bond allows him to bring his opponent down with him.
    - Shadow Tag is to ensure that the opponent cannot be switched out and to trap Banded or Specs Pokemon, allowing Wynaut to defeat them.

    Other Options:
    - Not too many other options as his movepool is very limited, however a few of his moves can provide some coverage for Wynaut and his team.
    - Only two other moves not mentioned are Splash and Charm. Splash is worthless as it does nothing. Charm could replace Tickle for the added Attack drop while losing the Defense drop.
    - Eviolite could be used in place of Berry Juice to give him some better defenses, allowing him to deal with more Pokemon.
    - Added Speed in the EV spread can allow Wynaut to outspeed walls and lock them into attack.
    - Max Speed + Sticky Web support can help Wynaut outspeed a number of Pokemon in the tier, making Encore and Destiny Bond a bit more efficient.
    - A spread of 236 HP / 212 Def / 52 SDef while holding the Eviolite can allow Wynaut to even live a LO Knock Off from Pawniard.
    Checks and Counters:
    - Not too many checks and counters to Wynaut since nothing can really be switched in or out.
    - Special Attacking Dark types and Physical Ghosts are immune to Wynauts only way of dealing damage.
    - After knocking out an opponent, something such as Pawniard can come in and KO Wynaut.
    - Choice locked Pokemon can bluff specs (by either running Berry Juice or Lum Berry) and while Wynaut attempts to use a reflecting move they can boost up and KO Wynaut the next turn.
    - Taunt forces Wynaut into using only Counter or Mirror Coat, giving the opponent a chance to setup. Some examples of this include Misdreavus, Cottonee, and Purloin.
    - Pokemon that use moves or items that allow them to switch out (ex. Volt Switch, U-turn, Shed Shell) can avoid capture and escape from Wynaut's Shadow Tag.
    - Status conditions such as Burn and Poison slowly take out Wynaut, the worst being Toxic Stall as the Poison gets worse over time and will defeat Wynaut faster than Burn would normally do.
    - Ghost types in general as they can't be trapped and hit for super-effective damage.
    Final Review:
    - Nice HP stat and bulk from Eviolite allows him to take attacks while being able to hit back with Counter or Mirror Coat.
    - Counter and Mirror Coat allow him to deal large damage to opponents, especially Banded and Choiced Specs users.
    - Great ability helps him do the damage that he does, despite having a limited movepool.
    - Due to his extremely limited movepool, opponents can see his strategy from a mile away, often allowing them to work around Wynaut if they're careful.
    - Lacks reliable recovery which results in his major weakness to status moves.
    - No real counter as his ability prevents switching in or out, yet Pokemon that carry Volt Switch, U-turn or Shell Bell can escape his trap and switch into something better suited to deal with Wynaut.
    - Destiny Bond, Tickle, Charm and Safeguard add a little bit more coverage for him and for his team.
    - Best counter to Wynaut would be Taunting Scraggys. Taunt forces Wynaut into using only Counter or Mirror Coat, giving Scraggy the opportunity to setup with Bulk Up or Dragon Dance.
    - Overall, Wynaut is a pretty strong Pokemon in the LC tier. His high HP stat, bulky defenses and his great ability allows him to utilize his very limited movepool. Wynaut is a great check to Banded and Choiced Specs users, making Wynaut a large threat in the LC tier.


    (So, this is my first analysis. I apologize if I missed anything or forgot to add anything or made a mistake. If I did, please make sure to let me know. Please give your most honest opinion when reviewing this. Thanks!)


     
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  2. Yagura

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    I'll just say for now that Berry Juice is better than Eviolite since it gives Wynaut recovery which means it'd deal with more Pokémon that way and mention Eviolite in OO. Also, remove Oran Berry since it's outclassed by Berry Juice.

    I'd say more if I haven't been busy with those exams, I'll read the analyse more carefully in Tuesday and say whatever I notice then probably give my approve since there isn't much to say about Wynaut.
     
  3. Pangaea

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    Thanks! I took your suggestion about Berry Juice and added it in.
     
  4. Yagura

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    I said Berry Juice is better than Eviolite that means you should add it to the main set and put Eviolite in OO instead :x
     
  5. Pangaea

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    Oops sorry, fixed.
     
  6. satyaki roy

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    I know wynaut is slow....but with max speed and sticky web encore and d bond is more effective....I tried it
     
  7. Pangaea

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    His main points are Counter and Mirror Coat which do lots of damage, the set you're suggesting is most likely a stall set with Encoring your opponents into moves and then bringing them down with you with Destiny Bond. Encore is mainly used for walls, who normally won't do any direct damage meaning Destiny Bond won't work, and there's no point in Encoring Choice Banded/Specs Pokemon since they're already trapped into a move. Plus, Counter and Mirror Coat can counter more Pokemon better than Encore and Destiny Bond with max speed. Think about it.
     
  8. satyaki roy

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    Yes but as counter and mirror coat anyway hit last; trapping with encore can help counter/mirror coat being used smoothly...i.e a staryu can always use recover to heal itself so encore can stop that. Also; at low HP; it can successfully use d bond with some good speed
     
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  9. Pangaea

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    Counter and Mirror Coat are supposed to move last. Wynauts main points are Counter and Mirror Coat and it wouldn't make sense to make a set that only works once when this set can be used numerous times during a battle. Also, Destiny Bond and Encore were mentioned.
     
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    U don't understand what I'm trying to convey...it works for me that's all I'll say
     
  11. Pangaea

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    I do understand what you're trying to say. The set you're suggesting may work but the set I posted is more efficient and does more.
     
  12. satyaki roy

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    What you don't get is both work together...counter and mirror are less priority moves so a fast wyanaut can run it
     
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    Let's solve this and not make this thread a PC++ fiesta shall we? Please add that set that Satyaki Roy suggested in OO, don't make it a set as you said it's outclassed by the current one and it's the only really effective one in the metagame.
     
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    Well I don't agree...but I'll settle for it.
    You can't say its ineffective without trying it; I say; give it a shot.
     
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    I didn't say it isn't effective at all, I said the other set is better.
     
  16. satyaki roy

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    Well; that's just an opinion.
    Also; it depends with your team which suits better. Like; if you don't have spinarak and web you can't out speed many with wynaut even with max speed. I don't mind where ever you put the set; put in OO but I wanted to make people aware of that set...fast wynaut.
     
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    I added the set he suggested to OO.
     
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    Eunoia I think I'm Big Meech...

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    in the OO section when you bring up eviolite, you can say that an alternate spread of 236 HP / 212 Def / 52 SDef allows wynaut to have a very high chance of surviving an Admant LO Pawniard's knock off at full health :@
     
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    Added, thanks!
     
  21. Chlorine Trifluoride

    Chlorine Trifluoride You were saying?

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    remove the mention of oran berry in CC and replace it with berry juice~
    Scraggy doesn't run taunt like ever BUT misdreavus, cottonee and purloin do
    Ghost types in general should be mentioned in CC since they can't be trapped and hit it for SE damage

    other wise nothing to say~
     
  22. Pangaea

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    Thanks, added that in!