A complaint followed by 2 suggestions

Discussion in 'Simulator Suggestions' started by Lord Outrage, Jun 2, 2014.

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  1. Lord Outrage

    Lord Outrage Banned

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    IMPORTANT NOTICE:If you never laddered high or aim to ladder high better not read this it wont interest you and you wont even understand.

    I will be really brief and straight forward.Most of Players who ladders in LU(random example) think its a dead tier and the more you go up the ladder the more you get small variations(obviously).IF YOU GET HAXED IN A -30 +2 variation you will loose 30 points.It seems cool at first you think you're a good player you will get them back quick BUT 30 points takes at least 3 hours to get back on a RIP ladder like LU ladder.And since time is money its like throwing 3 hours of your precious time in the trash bin just because of extremely lucky opponent.

    FIRST SUGGESTION: I'm pretty sure every player who high ladder,is pissed off as hell when he get haxed(obviously everyone care about his time).Some of them decide to rage quit and punch the wall.Some of them just write 3 points and forfeit while saying bad game and some of them swear in battle.I just want auth to know that the reaction after the hax is relative to the personality of the player .So i demand auth to be more lenient if a high ladder player swear in a battle if he got haxed because he knows that luck just threw 3 hours of his time in the trash bin.

    SECOND SUGGESTION(REALLY GOOD ONE MUST READ): My suggestion is that PO let us as players to ladder and play games in different tiers at the same time.like playing a uu and a lu battle at the same time.since as stated before i get a battle in lu every 20 minutes so it would be less time wasting to play another battle in another tier at the same time.

    Thanks For Reading,
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  2. Yagura

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    To be honest I wish this is a serious thread and not a just a joke. Anyways, I will just directly say that both your suggestions make no sense, the first one is totally unfair and the second one is silly since it makes no sense playing a rated battle between two different tiers (Imagine Ubers vs NU)

    The solution I suggest is: USE A HIGH MAX RATING DIFFERENCE, with it you get battles with kind of equal variation (even though you won't be able to find battles easily). You can see it as an option when you click Find Battle and it's a pretty known option.
     
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    Well to counteract the getting mad at hax thing, it's part of the game. It's been here forever and probably wont leave (although GameFreak is catering more to competitive players than casual players) so you might as well get used to it now. You also can't demand auth do anything :P You also have the ability to rage elsewhere, such as a private channel like [TR] and avoid any possible consequences.

    And for suggestion 2, utilize the tab system. With different alts you can ladder whatever you want. I'm pretty sure the client can't handle 2 of the new battle windows though, so be careful.
     
  4. Lord Outrage

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    Yagura i may understand your view about the first but about the second not at all.i thought you read the notice i wrote.with no range it takes 20 minutes to find battle.how if i use a range seriously it will just take 2 years.
    And Celebi i know i can ladder with a different alt in another tier but where is the point.i want to ladder in my main account in 2 tiers which shouldn't be very difficult for you to make unless the client doesn't handle.
    Also about game freak yeah they dimished the hax a bit by converting the crit to 1.5 but its really not enough.better have a hax clause in a battle because i'm getting gay hax like 2 freezes same game.
     
  5. Crystal Moogle

    Crystal Moogle Ayaya~ Administrator Administrator

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    Is already possible.. You can load multiple teams at once and hitting find battle lets you choose separate teams for the tier. You do have to hit find battle again after finding a battle, but that's all.
     
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    Ah yeah i tried it and it worked! thank you very much!
     
  7. Ramiel

    Ramiel On our backs. In our hearts.

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    Yeah, I feel you. I used to think of laddering as everything myself, and raged whenever I got the hax. Almost 1700 then a -30? Because of my 5 percent Spacial Miss? ez. 7 Stone Misses in a row and get outstalled by a toxic Offensive Aerodactyl when I was a Defensive Rhyperior? Been there, done that.

    However, while I completely understand your feels, I have to say I disagree greatly with your suggestion.

    The whole point of the implementation of auth is to have a neutral judgement for all players unless my ideologies during the time I was a Moderator was completely off. Regardless of your affiliation, friends, or your personal preferences, you are meant to stay neutral and judge everyone equally. This means that your current circumstances can't always be an excuse in the face of equality, regardless of relative personality or not.

    Again, as people have posted above, you could always rage at your own channel. You lead a rather large clan for god's sake.
    Me and my buds like Fixed or Leon always gather together to complain about hax in our own private channel, and to console each other or just to have a laugh doing it. It's a game after all - it's meant to be pleasurable.

    And I really don't think just because you have a higher rating you should get more leniency.

    One: What really defines a 'higher rating'? It's not a subjective term. This means it's open to interpretations, and prone to making things more complex than necessary.

    Two: Should rich people get away with crimes more simply because they are rich?
    Many people would argue no. And assuming you aren't a total robotic figure, I'd say you'd say no as well.
    So then, should players more higher on the ladder get away with rulebreaking (such as rage, insulting) more simply because they have a higher ladder rank?

    You can see where I'm going with this, right?
    Being rich has nothing to do with receiving less punishment. Because they don't have any relation whatsoever.
    Same with a high ladder rank and the punishment you get from swearing/disrespecting your player in battle.
    You are rather asking for a full time discrimination here, which is never a good thing.

    A friendly advice from an ex-ladderfag that is myself: It decays and leaves someday. Don't fuss too much about it. Rather, share the random annoying hax of all kinds to your buds in your clan or whatever and laugh about how annoying it is. :)

    Good luck.
     
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    In regards to your first "suggestion", players should be able to control inappropriate behaviour, and it depends on the auth dealing with them: how would they know that they got haxed? And, as you said, reaction is based off of the player: auth have to treat everyone the same or there would be no point in them.

    In regards to your second suggestion, you can load 6 teams, and when in the find battle tab, tick all of them: now you're laddering for whatever tiers they are at the same time: eg. I load an ubers team, an OU an an NU team. Then I find battle, and I could battle someone in one of those 3 tiers as long as I had the teams loaded and ticked.
     
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