[BW2 OU] Enter the Dome Fossil

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  1. Luck>Skill

    Luck>Skill Well-Known Member

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    So...I haven't posted a team on here in a long, long time, but I feel like this is the right moment to share my overall best, and 2nd favourite BW OU team I ever created, this team has seen use in SPL and POWC (used by everyone's favourite user @-Wonder), and with XY out, I don't think BW will get much play at all (being probably the most hated gen by a lot of people)

    I created this team around mid October I believe, and I've been using it ever since, I haven't laddered a lot with it (because I never ladder) but it has seen some tournament play as said already, it's a sand balanced team which sports a very uncommon sight in OU: Kabutops, which has a lot of uses tbh, I had already experimented with Kabutops in OU, but the previous team wasn't as satisfying as this (the lineup was Hippowdon, Gengar, Dragonite, Ferrothorn, Latias, Kabutops), not reflecting my playstyle at all and having a lot of holes I couldn't cover without altering the team at all

    So here it is, my best BW OU team:

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    Hippowdon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 248 HP / 192 Def / 68 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Whirlwind
    - Stealth Rock
    - Slack Off

    Whoever knows me as a battler knows how much I love sand in BW, and how much I love Hippowdon in both DPPt and BW, the reason being its enormous bulk while still having very few things that could set up on it or come in for free, Whirlwind is a great move on this team, phazing out annoying pokes while they come in trying to switch in for free such as Latios or Celebi, I have tried attacking moves over Whirlwind both here and on other teams, but they simply never cut it for me, Ice Fang is nice but not only it misses, it fails to KO Garchomp and Dragonite (and EQ + Skarmory's presence are enough for the former, while the latter has to lock into Outrage to give me free spikes or get phase'd out while it DDs), also Ice Fang misses. this team isn't particularly Gengar weak either so I don't feel the need to run Crunch (also this set beats SubDisable gar and doesn't mind WoWGar as much as Crunch / Ice Fang / Rock Slide Hippo), and being this a Physically Defensive Hippowdon, I wouldn't use it to try and 1v1 a +1 Volcarona so no point in Rock Slide / Stone Edge (also they miss a lot)

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    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Spikes
    - Whirlwind
    - Brave Bird
    - Roost

    Hippowdon + Skarmory is a great combination, although usually I run the inverse defensive spectrum on them (SDef Hippo + PhysDef Skarm) but on this team Skarmory is my only steel type so I needed it to take on Draco Meteors and such (Amoonguss can't really switch into Specs / Orbed Meteors as well as I wished), instant recovery + Spikes as well as a normal resistance are what I was looking for, it compliments Hippowdon and Amoonguss very well, ignoring Ground mons, resisting Dragon and luring in Fire moves for my 3 offensive Pokemon to take advantage of, overall a great Pokemon

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    Kabutops (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Aqua Jet
    - Rapid Spin
    - Stone Edge
    - Low Kick

    Here it is, the member this team originated from. Now I'll explain how the team developed around Kabutops: Kabutops obviously loves Sandstorm, the extra Special Defense means it could switch into an Ice Beam / Hydro Pump or hell, even tank a Thunderbolt from something weak such as Porygon2, taking low damage from Jellicent's attacks and even Gengar's Shadow Ball in a pitch. The double STAB combination is troublesome for sun teams (and Cresselia doesn't really like taking on Kabutops when I have Hippowdon / Latias back), Low Kick rounds off the coverage, hitting Ferrothorn and Heatran hard, since my water STAB is Aqua Jet which power doesn't cut it often. Jolly to outspeed Dragonite and Breloom and maybe fire off Aqua Jet on a weakened Breloom or Stone Edge Dragonite before it EQs / Spowers / Outrages me...Stone Edge 2HKOs Jellicent, Gengar can't come in on much and Aqua Jet does A LOT to it. All in all, a very good spinner, it can also switch in on Heatran's Fire Blasts easily and start doing damage, not much can actually beat it if they are switching in, the best they can hope for is a Stone Edge miss

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    Amoonguss (F) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 200 HP / 40 Def / 252 SDef / 16 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Spore
    - Foul Play
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Giga Drain

    I absolutely LOVE Amoonguss in BW, Spore is a great tool to play 5v6, offering free switches to the other members of my team to start wrecking havoc, not much to say to be honest, the only non-standard thing of this set is Foul Play which allows me to avoid Kyurem-B from having free switchins on Amoongus as well as avoiding Dragonite setting up DDs once I reveal Sludge Bomb, it also does decent damage to Latis

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    Keldeo @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Hydro Pump
    - Secret Sword
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    A fast scarfer is a necessity in a metagame like BW where speedy stuff runs around all the time, Keldeo helps me against Volcarona and Dragons, esp ScarfMence and +1 Dragonite (against which Hippowdon isn't enough). Not much to say about Scarf Keldeo honestly

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    Latias (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Calm Mind
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Recover

    SubCM Latias is a great pokemon in current BW OU, it sets up on what is lured by Keldeo / Kabutops and is a great Pokemon overall, helping me fighting Starmie and luring in Ttar for Keldeo / Hippo / Skarm for free hazards / powerful hits, again, not much to say here, it's the standard set

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    Hippowdon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 248 HP / 192 Def / 68 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Whirlwind
    - Stealth Rock
    - Slack Off

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Spikes
    - Whirlwind
    - Brave Bird
    - Roost

    Kabutops (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Aqua Jet
    - Rapid Spin
    - Stone Edge
    - Low Kick

    Amoonguss (F) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 200 HP / 40 Def / 252 SDef / 16 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Spore
    - Foul Play
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Giga Drain

    Keldeo @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Hydro Pump
    - Secret Sword
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Latias (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Calm Mind
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Recover
     
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  2. Celebi.

    Celebi. Active Member

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    I actually really like this team. I can't find any glaring holes in it ;-; nice team building. Did you mean to say that Kabutops could take a Shadow Ball in a pinch?

    I also love the fact that his is a BW2 team instead of the cancerous XY OU (my least favorite gen/tier). Also, outside of Latias, how would you handle offensive Celebi? Also Tornadus seems like a bit of a problem. In or outside of rain. Focus Blast can 2hko Skarm. Heat Wave also beats it. Hurricane hits the rest of the team pretty hard.
     
  3. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    lol you can see you were really into doing this when describing hippo, then got bored as fuck by it when you reached keldeo

    honestly this team is really solid, but personally i would use some other move sets. a couple of examples being toxic over surf on keldeo to make jellicent and opposing subcm lati's not nearly as big dicks, hp fire on amoonguss so ferro and ferro don't go stacking hazards or in the case of the former, spin away yours. maybe icy wind on keldeo too so you can at least slow down a gyarados for kabutops to finish it off (talking about gyarados it really does look like a massive threat, maybe use some more def on amoonguss?). clear smog over sludge bomb still discourages setting up if you go with hp fire and ensures the rare bu breloom doesn't go to town on your team either if latias gets trapped.

    but yeah very nice team. it's really tough to not fall into the same patterns when using sand balance, but this team works like a charm and is still very creative so props!
     
  4. Luck>Skill

    Luck>Skill Well-Known Member

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    @Celebi. LO Focus Blast barely 2HKOs (if Rocks aren't up) so 2 max rolls would be needed, and we all know how unreliable Focus Blast is, Hippowdon can take any move once, Kabutops can switch in on anything in sand and outspeeds in rain, and I have aqua jet anyway, also having sand up with this team is incredibly easily vs rain between Amoonguss (since Politoed is rain offence's favourite sleep fodder) and nobody uses Heat Wave Tornadus...and if they do well, they'd need specs / orb to do damage and revenge killing it would be easily, I am pretty sure Latias can also recover once or twice on it and kill it off after residual damage, if specs it's very easy to play around

    Yes, offensive Celebi is a threat but it'd need to have HP Fire to beat Skarmory, and I have Latias anyway, obviously if Latias is dead Celebi is hard to deal with, although I believe that Skarm and Amoong can take a hit and then I can revenge with Keldeo, I can also fake belt HP Bug with Keldeo if needs be / I think I can manage to bluff it

    @ZoroDark it's more like I ran out of things to say, Hippowdon deserves a long paragraph (so did Kabutops) but I didn't feel like adding unnecessary infos on the rest

    Sludge Bomb 2HKOs max HP max SPdef Breloom (terrible spread for BulkyLoom) anyway so I don't think t's needed, also, I have Skarmory for Breloom, Toxic on Keldeo is actually an interesting suggestion and well, I'd like to say "I'm going to try it" but as you can tell from the introduction, this team isn't going to be used by me anymore most likely

    Icy Wind is too weak on Scarf Keldeo in my opinion, I understand slowing Gyarados is big but Skarm + Amoonguss + Kabutops can handle Gyarados just fine, also if I run Clear Smog + HP Fire on Amoonguss Gyarados will have a free substitute on it, which could do more harm than good

    Ferrothorn / Forretress can just be spored most of the times (they are also most teams' favourite sleep absorbers outside of sleep talkers), Kabutops has never failed a spin for me if I actually wanted it to spin so I don't think I need so desperately to prevent them from placing down hazards

    tl;dr I'd actually try Toxic on Keldeo if I were to use this team again, but the rest is a no for me, still, thanks for the rates though!
     
  5. -Wonder

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    this team is harder than the italian stallion's dick
    What is your favourite team? the adventure club? #PORCODDIOPLS
     
  6. Cameltoed

    Cameltoed Excadrill gira

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    I really enjoy this team, and as ZoroDark said, I find Ferrothorn a bit annoying for your team (especially if sent to Keldeo locked on water/ice move), so HP Fire Amoonguss can help in some way, although I love Foul Play Amoonguss... Toxic on Keldeo for Jellicent should be a smart option!

    You can try also HP Fire on Latias but this would mean gain a huge weakness vs TTars and toxic stallmons which u can use as fodder with Sub

    well done
     
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    ferrothorn is totally ppstalled by sub latias. (when latias is already active obv)
     
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