[NOC] Fire and Ice Mafia - Fire Mafia Win (Pyanda and RudeStyle in HD)

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  1. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    oh for fuck's sake.

    i hate how i have 3 scum-reads, and yet everyone wants to get the guy i don't read as scum. and yet at least one of those guys are scum.

    qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm
     
  2. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    hubris hubris hubris
     
  3. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    Everyone ignored my question because they thought it was stupid...
    Seriously, what do you see in Mike?

    I see that you know how to type out a Qwerty keyboard.
     
  4. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    feg, you're being wrong again
     
  5. NotMafia

    NotMafia Miltank: Destroyer of Souls

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    Votecount 5.2 - LYLO

    Players in Game:
    - -Mike- (1)- Marquis (L-2)
    - Fegelein (0)-
    - Marquis (0)-
    - Pyanda (0)-
    - RudeStyle in HD (0)-
    - Not Voting (4)- -Mike-, Fegelein, Pyanda, RudeStyle in HD


    The following users have not posted in the last 24 hours and risk being prodded

    RudeStyle in HD

    The following users have been prodded and must post in the next 48 hours or be replaced

    -Mike-

    Day 5 ends WED APR 9TH 20:00 GMT/15:00 EST
     
  6. RudeStyle

    RudeStyle A year late x D

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    Ok here.

    Pyanda who do you think is the most likely to be mafia right now?

    Mike pls post i want to see your take on things ( even though i think you are scum )

    so far~~
    Fegelein: villy
    pyanda : Null or scum
    Marquis: Null or scum
    Mike: scum.
     
  7. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    if you think mike is scum, vote for him! :o
     
  8. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    That's scummy as fuck, just saying.
     
  9. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    if you think i'm scummy as fuck, vote for me! :o
     
  10. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    hint: no filter. i don't really have a reason to say anything other than what's on my mind, and that's a mike lynch
     
  11. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    also scum respond best to scummy requests! take into account the fact that i'm trying to get him to bus his partner sooner than later, before the game stagnates/dies (see: SOHV lylo)
     
  12. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    2) -Mike-* : <------ I really do not see how Mike can be town. I am not going to vote right now because I do not want a repeat of Metal's lynch. Mike please at least attempt to defend yourself as a wagon is being formed on you.
    3) FegeleinMeowMix sux : Null. The major scum hunting since you have joined made me think you are town, but I feel like you are defending Mike with no reason that I can see. I can easily see a Mike and Fege scum team but Marquis seem to think that both mafias aimed at you night 2.
    4) Marquis : Town. I have thoughts on this. Partly because Fege is not my strongest town read anymore.
    7) Pyanda : N/A.
    9) RudeStyle in HD : Null. I doubt the possibility of Rude and Mike scum team, Fege had a point on this. At the same time, I can't discard it either because the possibility is there.
     
  13. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    Pyanda:
    • what alternatively explains no kill on Night 2?
    • who is more likely Mike's partner between your null reads?
    RudeStyle:
    • what is your stance on bussing?
    • explain this post in its entirety:
      why did you vote mike right away? I was right about Finch; what are you implying? How does the lower line even support the upper line at all?
    • why is Feg town to you?
    • why is Mike scum to you? (I don't want any more of your sheeping bullshit)
    • name the scumteam right now. two names.
    Mike:
    • why are you so quiet?
    • give me your strongest townread, and a reason for it not influenced by other peoples' reads
    Fegelein:
    • explain how Night 2 unfolded as it did. do you agree with my proposal?
    • why why why is Mike town? if your answer has anything to do with him being new then think of a better answer and say that instead
     
  14. RudeStyle

    RudeStyle A year late x D

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  15. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    @Seb: Unless the Mafia suck ass, I'm pretty sure they targeted the same target. I've got a feeling it was someone that recently died with the death of MetalGross though. Metal exhibited no real reads on anyone. It COULD be me, but I'm not sure. Your reasons don't seem outright wrong though.

    Mike isn't scum because his tone is easily the most natural out of everyone in the game and he has been showing clear signs of TRYING to help out without looking like tryhard scum. Also, apart from a few minor blunders (which everyone here has done MUCH worse), he's done nothing inherently scummy. Mike is an easy mislynch, and I think it would be unwise to vote him.

    I'm pretty sure he's Town. Question is, who's the other Town?
     
  16. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Also, Mike never hid behind me, he voiced his opinions quite well during the Hopkirk debate.
     
  17. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Also, think about it this way.

    3 people want Mike lynched. At least one of those people are scum. Scum wouldn't want to sabotage their chances at this part in the game. That's why I think Mike is innocent.
     
  18. Pyanda

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    There is no alternative explanation. However, I think there is an alternative target. With Finch's push for your lynch day 4 with little reason even after my attempt at explaining why there shouldn't be a lynch, I suspected Finch to be scum trying to lynch a confirmed town. Then with Finch's flip, I thought fire saw what Finch was trying to do, therefore they killed Finch. I asked how did Zoro's partner die, which was a failed attempt to fish for reactions.

    Fege.

    Why does this sentence sound like you know Mike is scum who is trying not to look like scum?

    No they wouldn't. Which is why I think you are more likely to be Mike's partner.
     
  19. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    Not unless the scum are panicked and think the only way they can escape from this alive is if they bus. And not sure about how much server mafia you've played lately, but as I said, I think it's very likely RudeStyle is bussing Mike when taking into account that recent server trend.

    There's a difference between "optimal" scum play and actual scum play. We've recently had this discussion in another forum game here (Nomination), so I don't want to go into it any more than I have to, but basically it's this: just because scum shouldn't do it doesn't mean they aren't. The reasons may be out of inexperience, fear, etc., but in this scenario:

    Scum knows their partner is Mike.

    Scum is worried, afraid, paranoid at this point.

    Scum won't try to defend him because they don't want to look bad and they're not brave enough to try reverse psychology tactics.

    Scum decide to bus as soon as they can.

    Scum may likely have been bussing in previous days as well.

    RudeStyle or I am scum.

    I'm town as fuck.

    RudeStyle is Mike's scumpartner.
     
  20. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    Er.

    Rethinking my Feg read.
     
  21. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    So you start your post going against my argument, only to come to the same conclusion as my argument?

    OK, I've got a nasty feeling you may be scum.
     
  22. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    How exactly did I come to the same conclusion as your argument? The only similarity is that we agree someone who wants to lynch Mike is scum. The difference is that my theory concludes that only one of them is scum, bussing Mike, rather than a scumteam aiming to get Mike mislynched.

    Add to that the facts that there has been no quickhammer and that Mike/Pyanda/RudeStyle/you have all been browsing the thread at the same time, and Mike is practically confirmed scum at this point.
     
  23. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    Also pointing out here that I would have entirely rescinded my townread on you if not for the fact that I've actually read Great Expectations, and already know that you do have a nasty habit of presenting insane misrepresentations of arguments as town.
     
  24. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Your logic still suggests that 2 people on the Mike wagon are scum.

    But I'm watching WM30 atm.
     
  25. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    Hello, everyone!

    Deadline is in two days!

    Mike has been active yet neglected to post because he's flustered scum!

    Please lynch Mike before our glorious moderator has to bother replacing him!

    Fegelein stop being so obtuse!

    Thank you!

    Goodbye!
     
  26. RudeStyle

    RudeStyle A year late x D

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    >_> gonna b busy revising for the next few days so vote mike

    ok bye bye.
     
  27. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    We are clearly not going to get anything more out of this day anyway since Mike is not posting at all.
    Let's not waste anymore time.

    Vote -Mike-
     
  28. NotMafia

    NotMafia Miltank: Destroyer of Souls

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    HAMMER

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    - Mike - was lynched, he was

    Vanilla Townie

    Fegelein and Marquis the Vanilla Townies were endgamed

    Pyanda and RudeStyle in HD the Fire Mafia Goons survived and won​
     
  29. Yagura

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    WHAT
    THE
    FUCK
     
  30. RudeStyle

    RudeStyle A year late x D

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  31. NotMafia

    NotMafia Miltank: Destroyer of Souls

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    meeps Well-Known Member

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    i win

    also lol at anyone who thought marquis was scum at any point in this game
     
  33. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    are you kidding me

    why not at least fakehammer sooner
     
  34. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Double kill was on Marquis, not on Fege.
    Zoro and I getting picked off successively sucked.
    grats fire mafia
     
  35. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    i didn't want to say it btw but my main reason for the pyanda townread was because i thought he'd have had made very... different kill choices
     
  36. NotMafia

    NotMafia Miltank: Destroyer of Souls

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    On the old forums this game would have ended a couple of days earlier, harder to co-ordinate quickhammers now, also game avoidance is bad, I'll definitely make my prodding and replacing rules harsher next time

    I'll probably be hosting another Open Set-up pretty soon so if anyone has any suggestions or requests I'm open to them
     
  37. RudeStyle

    RudeStyle A year late x D

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    Good job at hosting by the way :) The game went smoothly.
     
  38. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    I did not discuss any quickhammer tactics with Rude so I wasn't even sure if Rude knows what it means.
    Also, I really don't want to mess up and have Marquis unvote before me or Rude can hammer.
    But yeah, the game would have ended a few days ago, sorry for the drag.
     
  39. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    I freaking had the scum down. I freaking KNEW Mike was Town.

    I'm kind of pissed off more than anything that nobody agreed with me, but GG I guess.
     
  40. Yagura

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    Yeah, NotMafia you were a wonderful host thanks so much for the game! Congraulation to the Fire Mafia, didn't see it coming at all!