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  1. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    Last edit link (09/04/2014 21:10): http://pastebin.com/x0E2igjC

    Well, it is the beta version of the WB3, this is an old pc gamer, called Warlords Battlecry 3, and i don't put all races, but i need approval of the server user's, so the game is ready to start.

    Roles:
    Etherian Defenders

    Imperium (Imperium)
    Help Text: The Imperium are training elephants to /crush during the day to kill, your mages can cast a /spell on a sheep, making it in an elemental, but the result is random.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Spell: Convert. Can only be used on itself. Bypass protect/safeguard. Has a 0% chance of failing.
    Can convert to Fire Elemental [25.00%], Earth Elemental [25.00%], Water Elemental [25.00%] or Wind Elemental [25.00%] (Sheep).
    Standby Actions:
    Crush: Kill. User is not revealed.
    Vote counts as 1.

    Knight (Knight)
    Help Text: Sir, you are a Knight, his army has the fastest horses, allowing for cause more damage (vote), varies between +2 or +3, call your archon to /heal your target of the poison (only you will know the role of the target), and you can self /safeguard.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Safeguard: Shared with role.
    Heal: Detox.
    Vote counts randomly as 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2 or 3.

    Noble Elf (NobleElf)
    Help Text: The protectors of portal that brought the five Knights of the Underworld (some gods), you can protect everyone, including your enemies.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Protect: Shared with role.
    Vote counts as 1.

    Barbarian (Barbarian)
    Help Text: You're a barbarian, the most populated race on earth, your clan knows all Etheria, allowing to /hide during the day to reveal your target, you could also use /humanshield to other players.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Humanshield: Safeguard.
    Standby Actions:
    Hide: Expose. User is not revealed.
    Vote counts as 1.

    Sheep (Sheep)
    Help Text: You are a sheep, do not have special commands, vote to help win or wait someone to convert you.
    Abilities:
    Vote counts as 1.

    Fire Elemental (Fire Elemental)
    Help Text: The Mage of Imperium decided to cast a spell on you, and the results you turned into a Fire Elemental, and you can now / burn someone to burn him to death!
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Burn: Poison. (Kills after 1 days) Shared with role. Can be used 1 times per night.
    Vote counts as 1.

    Earth Elemental (Earth Elemental)
    Help Text: The Mage of Imperium decided to cast a spell on you, and the results did you become an Earth Elemental, you now have the vote -3 and self /protect.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Protect: Shared with role.
    Vote counts as -3.

    Water Elemental (Water Elemental)
    Help Text: The Mage of Imperium decided to cast a spell on you, and the results you turned into a Water Elemental, combine stealth and camouflage to /stalk someone.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Stalk:
    Vote counts as 1.

    Wind Elemental (Wind Elemental)
    Help Text: The Mage of Imperium decided to cast a spell on you, and the results you turned into a Wind Elemental, use sua força dos ventos para distrair digitando /wind.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Wind: Distract.
    Vote counts as 1.


    Monsters

    Ssrathi (Ssrathi)
    Help Text: You are a Ssrathi, these 'sssnakesss' have a prophet (responsible for releasing the five knights) that predicts the future, you can /inspect one target, can too /transform sheep to naga, for being a reptile, is immune to poison.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Inspect:
    Transform: Convert. Can only be used on itself. Has a 0% chance of failing.
    Can convert to Naga (Sheep).
    Can't be poisoned.
    Vote counts randomly as 1.
    Knows teammates.

    Minotaur (Minotaur)
    Help Text: You are a minotaur, the most violent race in the world, with your nightly skills, you can /kill without being distracted, because you will kill them too.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Kill: Shared with team.
    Kills anyone that distract this role (action is not canceled).
    Vote counts as 1.
    Knows teammates.

    Swarm (The Swarm)
    Help Text: You are the swarm, his troop exists only scorpion, but are immune to poison. You can also /poison too, and try to /evolve into Mega swarm to have a more deadly poison, your vote is 0.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Evolve: Convert. Can only be used on itself. Has a 50% chance of failing.
    Can convert to Mega Swarm (Swarm).
    Poison: Kills after 1 days. Shared with role. Can be used 1 times per night.
    Can't be poisoned.
    Vote counts as 0.
    Knows teammates.

    Mega Swarm (MegaSwarm)
    Help Text: You evolved into Mega swarm, now has his troop appearance of a Human scorpion, and your poison kills in 1 day, its action is shared with your partners and your vote now worth 1.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Poison: Kills after 1 days. Shared with role. Can be used 1 times per night.
    Can't be poisoned.
    Vote counts as 1.
    Knows teammates.

    Naga (Naga)
    Help Text: The Ssrathi came up to you and turned into Naga, the reptile woman, you can / sing (distract) one person every night and your vote varies between 1 and 2.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Sing: Distract.
    Can't be poisoned.
    Vote counts randomly as 1 or 2.
    Knows teammates.


    Devils

    Plague (Plague)
    Help Text: You are a Plague Lord, you can /poison other races, can also /safeguard your allies, and the new plague you can /doom the sheep, turning it into Hydras, you know your partners.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Poison: Kills after 1 days. Shared with role. Can be used 1 times per night.
    Safeguard:
    Doom: Convert. Can only be used on itself. Has a 0% chance of failing.
    Can convert to Hydra (Sheep).
    Can't be poisoned.
    Vote counts as 1.
    Knows teammates.

    Demon (Demon)
    Help Text: You're the Demon, this race was one of the first to exit the portal and invade Etheria, allowing to /kill during the day (with the chance to be revealed).
    Abilities:
    Standby Actions:
    Kill: 10% chance of revealing user.
    Has a 100% chance of evading kill.
    Vote counts as 1.
    Knows teammates.

    Hydra (Hydra)
    Help Text: You were doomed and became a Hydra, you will die in any attack, but you can /evolve to acquire a power randomly. All hydras have your vote in 2!
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Evolve: Convert. Can only be used on itself. Bypass protect/safeguard.
    Can convert to Fire Hydra [50.00%] or Frost Hydra [50.00%] (Any role).
    Vote counts as 2.

    Fire Hydra (Fire Hydra)
    Help Text: The evolution begins, your blood starts to boil, and in an instant you become a Fire Hydra, you can / kill overnight. However, you do not gotten used to your powers, then you need to wait one night to choose another victim. You continue with your 2 vote!
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Kill: Shared with team. Can be used every 1 nights.
    Vote counts as 2.
    Knows teammates.

    Frost Hydra (Frost Hydra)
    Help Text: The evolution begins, his blood begins to cool, and you instantly becomes a Frost Hydra, you can / frost (Distract) to freeze your target. You continued with his 2 vote!
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Frost: Distract.
    Vote counts as 2.
    Knows teammates.


    Florest Task

    Wood Elf (Wood Elf)
    Help Text: You are a Wood Elf, by train in the dense forests, you have the chance to dodge from death during the night, and against attacks with your +3 vote, you can /detox too.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Detox:
    Has a 30% chance of evading kill.
    Vote counts as 3.

    Fairy (Fairy)
    Help Text: You are a fairy, explorers of the dense forest, their expertise allows /transform sheep's into fairy dragon and /expose other players without being detected. Your vote varies between +1 and -1!
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Transform: Convert. Has a 0% chance of failing.
    Can convert to Fairy Dragon (Sheep).
    Standby Actions:
    Expose: User is not revealed.
    Vote counts randomly as -1 or 1.

    Fairy Dragon (Fairy Dragon)
    Help Text: The Fairy visited you, turning it into Fairy Dragon and you are now a part of the team of the Florest Task! You gained new powers, can /kill overnight.
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Kill: Shared with team.
    Vote counts as 1.

    Orc (Orc)
    Help Text: You're a Orc, Appearance of a monster, demon behavior, but his home is in the forest, you joins with Forest Task, you have the chance to Hax's Monster, Demon or Noble Elf, and /kill someone (every 2 days).
    Abilities:
    Night Actions:
    Kill: Shared with team. Can be used every 2 nights.
    Gets night hax on:
    Kill: Team/Action/Target (33.0%). Player/Team (10.0%).
    Doom: Team/Action/Target (33.0%). Player/Team (10.0%).
    Safeguard: Team/Action/Target (33.0%). Player/Team (10.0%).
    Transform: Team/Action/Target (33.0%). Player/Team (10.0%).
    Heal: Team/Action/Target (33.0%). Player/Team (10.0%).
    Inspect: Team/Action/Target (33.0%). Player/Team (10.0%).
    Poison: Team/Action/Target (33.0%). Player/Team (10.0%).
    Vote counts as 1.
    Knows teammates.


    Spawn:
    List 1 (8~40 players):
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Imperium (Imperium)
    Demon (Demon)
    Knight (Knight)
    Minotaur (Minotaur)
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Fairy (Fairy)
    Noble Elf (NobleElf)
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Plague (Plague)
    Wood Elf (Wood Elf)
    Ssrathi (Ssrathi)
    Barbarian (Barbarian)
    Swarm (The Swarm)
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Noble Elf (NobleElf)
    Orc (Orc)
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Minotaur (Minotaur)
    Plague (Plague)
    Imperium (Imperium)
    Fairy (Fairy)
    Ssrathi (Ssrathi)
    Noble Elf (NobleElf)
    Demon (Demon)
    Swarm (The Swarm)
    Barbarian (Barbarian)
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Knight (Knight)
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Plague (Plague)
    Wood Elf (Wood Elf)
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Knight (Knight)
    Swarm (The Swarm)
    Fairy (Fairy)
    Sheep (Sheep)
    Plague (Plague)
    Wood Elf (Wood Elf)
    Barbarian (Barbarian)


    Priority List (Can Comment):
    [0.1] Knight (Safeguard)
    [0.8] Minotaur (Kill)
    [0.9] Wind Elemental (Wind)
    [1] Frost Hydra (Frost)
    [1] Naga (Sing)
    [2] Plague (Safeguard)
    [2] Earth Elemental (Protect)
    [2] Imperium (Spell)
    [2] Hydra (Evolve)
    [3] Wood Elf (Detox)
    [3] Knight (Heal)
    [4] Ssrathi (Transform)
    [4] Plague (Doom)
    [4] Fairy (Transform)
    [5] Barbarian (Shield)
    [5] Noble Elf (Protect)
    [6] Orc (Kill)
    [11] Mega Swarm (Poison)
    [12] Fire Hydra (Kill)
    [12] Fairy Dragon (Kill)
    [20] Fire Elemental (Burn)
    [30] Ssrathi (Inspect)
    [31] Water Elemental (Stalk)
    [38] Swarm (Poison)
    [39] Swarm (Evolve)
    [40] Plague (Poison)
    Well, here have the sides too:
    Devils:

    Demon
    Fire Hydra
    Frost Hydra
    Hydra
    Plague

    Etherian Defenders (village):

    Barbarian
    Earth Elemental
    Fire Elemental
    Imperium
    Knight
    Noble Elf
    Sheep
    Water Elemental
    Wind Elemental

    Forest Task:

    Fairy
    Fairy Dragon
    Orc
    Wood Elf

    Monsters:

    Mega Swarm
    Minotaur
    Naga
    Ssrathi
    Swarm

    Well, to add more race, i can substitute the sheep's, to all have at least one action, maybe im finished now).
     
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  2. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Sorry pal i couldn't pm you back yesterday but your theme is still not acceptable as it is now, for the motives that i explained on message 2 minutes ago, plus you need to fix the grammar of your theme, i am saying for experience i have been unable to have an huge number of themes to be accepted because of grammar.
     
  3. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    I Edited the code and spawn, chage the link too, now i have finished.
     
  4. xDagger

    xDagger Piercing into your soul.

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    You should try and find someone to help you with the help texts, as the grammar is way off for Mafia standards.
     
  5. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    yes, i working now.

    Edit: I think the my work finished now.
     
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  6. Roild

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    Hi yentero. You still pursuing this theme? It's just been quiet, but not necessarily your fault.
     
  7. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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  8. Veteran Padgett

    Veteran Padgett TFT Main Developer Developer

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    I had trouble finding the link. You should just leave the full url rather than a 3 letter hyperlink.
     
  9. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    i got help to find the correct grammatical, and veteran case the first link don't work, try the last post, have a same link, now the Shazan find some errors from commands (i learned too), Link:http://pastebin.com/WM7iuvYn.

    But, i need to test the commands, and update the theme with the correct grammatics when ready
     
  10. Veteran Padgett

    Veteran Padgett TFT Main Developer Developer

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    I went through the code and tried to fix the messages:

    http://pastebin.com/32TBmZVv

    You should look through it though because I wasn't sure what all of the messages were supposed to be (what is an archon?), or you may just not like some of the changes.

    I also think you should change the Barbarian's command to /shield , because /humanshield is pretty long for a command.
     
  11. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    gain some time to discuss the strategy, hummm... you is right:http://pastebin.com/8vXb4raE

    archon = flying human (same as angel, but the game, he have this name)

    Edit: sorr padgett,(from below post), link updated
     
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  12. Veteran Padgett

    Veteran Padgett TFT Main Developer Developer

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    Make sure to change the Barbarian's help as well.
     
  13. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    It's a little strange that the exposing command for barbarian is /hide which seems a little the opposite.
    Anyway it would be better if all the roles that transforms the sheeps apart Fairy would have a fail chance or a recharge so to not damage too much the village taking away too much villagers from it.
     
  14. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    The Imperium, Ssrathi and Plague has added 1 day to recharge, the current link have the recharge commands, but fairy don't have recharge command, now to add fail chance need to see the strength of the role.

    And the Barbarian, i change the command name to follow: http://pastebin.com/R2cGj5Yv
     
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  15. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Ok i have corrected a little the grammar and added your changes. Anyway if you want that an actions needs some times to be used again you should write "recharge": 2 instead of "recharge": 1 otherwise they will be able to uses their action the next night, so i corrected that into a link that i pmmed you.
     
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  16. Roild

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    Please. Stop with the links in the post. Just update a SINGLE link with information. If someone else has stuff for you to use, paste it over that one link. The post can just explain a change, not have a new link. Keep the OP as one link so that it can be checked faster. At this time, I haven'ta clue what to review.
     
  17. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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  18. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    As roles they seems original and good enough for your type of teams and i already corrected part of your grammar errors.
    But before to give you a test i would like to see another QC to check if the grammar is ok now, because i am not exactly Shakespear for this things.
     
  19. Arid Dream

    Arid Dream Not New Member

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    Minotaur needs to know that it kills. Demon needs to know that it evades. There are several instances where a word is missing a letter such as

    ( Sheeps do not have special commands, but they are the ones who can be transformed. Minotaur kills distrators)!",

    There are other grammatical mistakes such as misplaced commas and such. There are many instances where improper verb tense is used such as "evade kills" (in the Demon's help message) which should be "evades kills"

    Roles wise, most of the roles are original and creative. Keep up the good work.
     
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  20. RudeStyle

    RudeStyle A year late x D

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    It Looks like you've put a lot of effort into this theme!

    It's original and imaginative that's for sure.
    You forgot a few letters on words here. ( I've added them in bold ) This is for Minotaur ( underlined one word as you don't need it )


    "info": "Can kill during the night (Knight resists your kill). Knows your partners. Kills distractors. Sided with Monsters.",

    I know it's only minor mistakes but it makes it look more professional!
     
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  21. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    Well, i fixed with your's comments, but Roild say, no more link post, make only one link, well, the link now can view in first post, the first link.
     
  22. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    Village is extremely tiny (for instance there are two village roles until Knight comes in, and the bodyguard only comes in at 13 so the Imperium can't claim, but at this point there are 7 mafia and 6 village roles which isn't good)

    Four sheep in a row at 14-17 makes things really repetitive, although needed for the nature of the theme. But then 4 mafia roles come in and then 4 village roles come in so it's unbalanced the way you put the roles in, not to mention mafia gains more converters while the second Imperium doesn't even come in until 36.

    Basically village is very underpowered and maybe the Forest side too since it only has two roles (converter and mayor) while the demon mafia can daykill and the monsters mafia have 3 roles, including a Kefka in the Minotaur.
     
  23. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    The initial players is 8, so i changed some position from spawn list, and added the ORC for Forest task, the Haxor for theme.
     
  24. Withoutatrace

    Withoutatrace im a filthy weeb

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    From your updated theme link, you still have a massive amount of issues with grammatical correctness.

    If you want, I can fix it up and see if you are okay with it, but as of right now that is the outstanding issue I can see.
    Then again, I'm on my phone so..yeah.
     
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  25. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    Im good only to codification, the translation im very bad (ver very bad XD) all help is welcome :)
     
  26. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Hi Yentero, I will also be reviewing your theme.
    In order to help you with grammatical mistakes, I am fixing the summary so it makes sense, grammatically.
    Summary:
    Welcome to Warlords Battlecry 3! In Etheria lands, all races are struggling to possess the world. The allies need to help each other to conquer the world!(Sheeps do not have special commands, but they can be transformed. Minotaur kills distractors)[/HIDE]

    Your "info" messages are confusing. You first say it to a general audience, which is directed to anyone, and then you say it like it's directed toward the specific role.
    The "info" message is directed to everyone and is different from "help". /roles brings up the info messages and it's not proper to say "your" in that section.

    Edited Minotaur "Info" Message:
    "info": "Can kill during the night (Knight is immune to this kill). Knows partners. Kills distractors. Sided with Monsters."[/HIDE]

    The spawn needs work. Both Imperium and Fairy can transform sheeps, and Imperium has the higher priority. That means, if a Sheep claims, Imperium will likely target and convert it to an Elemental with higher priority. Fairy can expose someone and if it exposes Minotaur, there is a very likely chance that Village will win. I think you should replace the Knight with a Sheep. Knight is not needed in such a small setup. This poses a much more balanced setup where both Fairy and Imperium can transform the Sheep with an equal chance.
     
  27. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    errrr... Imperium,Ssrathi, Plague and Fairy can convert sheep's, but only Fairy can used transform with no recharge.

    Edit: I found some mistake for my part, the Mega Swarm need to kill the same night intantly with your poison, hehe, i fixed, and edited with the Fiery correction.
     
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    I don't like the idea of Knight having either 2 or 3 votes, I think it should just be either 2 votes. Village is a bit small and I think the chances of village winning is below 50%...
     
  29. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    In this case, you need to wait some time, i got help with the grammatical error's for now.

    Edit:And You suggest to retire the 3 vote for Knight, in this case the chance for Village win is more low, but, i knew the race to put in the Village side
    Dwarf:
    Forge: Same as Genie day kill wish, he's know one Ally role ( i will decide)
    Counter Night Kills, but die instantly case poisoned
     
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  30. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    So did you have added the dwarf and the grammar fix, or is still work in progress?
     
  31. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    i waiting the grammatical before to Put the Dwarf.

    Edit: I updated the theme, the Dwarf don't have the /forge (wish day kill) yet, but i put the Counter night kill and intantly die from poison.
     
  32. Withoutatrace

    Withoutatrace im a filthy weeb

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    I'm still working on the grammar fix.
    I've developed some sort of infection that has been killing me for the past 4 days, so I'll get to it hopefully by Thursday.
     
  33. Yentero

    Yentero So na Voadora

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    Ok Withouatrace, now i working for Dwarf only.
    Edit: I Finished the forge command, phew, now i will wait the Withouatrace to change the Grammatics :)
    Link changed
     
  34. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Decline[1]
    This theme has been in review for more than 1 month. This shows how there has not been any progress. I have pointed out some issues that can come up when playing the theme but the main reason I have decided to decline your theme is because of the grammatical errors. I know Withoutatrace has been helping you but you can't depend on someone else to fix something for your theme. He has been having internet issues and he couldn't work on it. If there are grammatical errors, no one can fully understand your concepts and theme when playing. Your theme is supposed to come in review completed or almost completed. I also gave you options in ways you can communicate better but you decided not to take any of them. This is why I had to decline your theme.
     
  35. RudeStyle

    RudeStyle A year late x D

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    Decline[2]
    I have to agree with Fiery Espeon, this doesn't seem to be going anywhere. I like the idea of the theme it just doesn't look like it's progressing or will progress in the future. I mean there is still grammatical errors right now. =|
    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since English is not your mother tongue but various members of the qc have assisted you in this problem. So therefore I have to decline this theme.
     
  36. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Sorry but i have to join my partners there with a decline [3] as it is now we can't wait anymore pal.
    Sadly we have too many theme on review and we cannot leave a theme pending for so much time, otherwise we will be submerged by thousand of unfinished themes, that take time away for the new themes to review.
    This doesn't mean that you have to stop working on it, even because it looked interesting as concept. On my opinion you should fix your grammar problem and propose this theme again on review when you have done it.
     
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