Kalos

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  1. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    I have updated the theme with the flavor changes. Nothing related to gameplay was changed. If more people want a change, or more reasons are provided, I might be inclined to do so.
     
  2. Black Mage

    Black Mage ~Pro Mafia Player~

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    Ok, So Like I've been busy teh Past Couple Days, I will be checking it every so often now

    1. Not Locking the Thread
    2. Before I let anyone play this theme anymore, I'm going to fix all errors, feel free to notify me on any
    3. I'm going to code up a new Mafia side
     
  3. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    Make sure you update the code in the first post or else it gets confusing.
     
  4. Black Mage

    Black Mage ~Pro Mafia Player~

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    Two New Mafias have joined, However I need Feedback

    (The Mewtwo)
    Mewtwo: 2nd fastest kill, after Xerneas, Ignores distractors, can convert to X or Y Mega Mewtwo
    Mewtwo X: 2nd and 3rd Fastest Kill, one Piercing, the other not, Ignores distractors, can use /Bulk to protect(on self), has 4 votes
    Mewtwo Y: 2nd fastest kill, after Xerneas, has a Daykill (non reveal), Ignores distractors, can use /Calm to safeguard(on self), has -3 votes

    (Fossils)
    Tyrunt: can kill (Before Megas[shared]) one person during the night, can use /ddance to kill another person every 3 nights, can /evolve to Tyrantrum on the 3rd night
    Amaura: can kill (Before Megas[shared]) one person during the night, can use /freeze(distract), /protect and /safeguard (anyone including self)once each, can /evolve to Aurorus on the 3rd night
    Tyrantrum: can kill (Before Megas[shared]) one person during the night, can use /ddance to kill another person every other night, is a night-bomb
    Aurorus: can kill (Before Megas[shared]) one person during the night, can use /freeze(distract), /protect and /safeguard (anyone including self) twice each, is a day-bomb
     
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  5. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    I'm happy my Fossils suggestion got added! I like the changes, I'll get around to looking at the flow of the game with these changes and get back to you Black Mage but on paper, the theme seems pretty balanced now.

    Try to delay Mega Mewtwo until after either Yveltal or Xerneas dies though, it'd probably be better.
     
  6. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Not that I'm [anywhere remotely close to] fond of the Fossil mafia changes due to the fact that they're just extra killers with more kills and more actions, I like the Mewtwo idea. Just make each Mewtwo specialize in one phase: Mega Mewtwo Y during the standby, Mega Mewtwo X during the night. Have Mega Mewtwo X evade nightkills and Mega Mewtwo Y evade daykills so that way it's a lot more fair just in case they go Y and actually trigger some relevant decision making besides "ooooohhh this guy daykills that sounds better"
     
  7. Roild

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    Eh. Theme looks pretty wonky. It did start strong, but seems to be hitting rut after rut. Not sure what is needed from me right now. The constant changes make me hesitant to review something that isn't complete.
     
  8. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Would you mind going more into detail about how the theme is 'pretty wonky'?
     
  9. Roild

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    Silly. Interesting. Whatever, don't mind my adjectives. Switching mafias is weird. Especially when both or more could be used. Greninja's Spikes seems silly, but interesting. Kind of the reverse of what I'd expect. Other than that, I don't know when to review.
     
  10. Black Mage

    Black Mage ~Pro Mafia Player~

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    Not My fault you're not fond of the Fossil Mafia, You needed an extra Mafia, and Fossil mafia was one of the few ideas that came to mind, plus it's lame to have Village vs Main mafia vs Small mafia (needs more mafia)

    I'm not making them evade, That would make them a bit OP And I DID make them specialize in different aspects, Mewtwo X excels at nightkills, can protect himself, and has better offensive votes, meanwhile Mewtwo Y can do a non revealing daykill, along with his normal nightkill that the original mewtwo retained, safeguard which prevents poison/inspect and has defensive votes to protect them self. They both have different styles of play, which can inspire to change to one or the other.
     
  11. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Alright, whenever you're done just PM the code and I'll update it.
     
  12. Roild

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    I don't like the direction the theme is heading. Decline [2]. Between the new author's attitude, me being on the fence beforehand, and how subpar the theme is atm (I think there are transitions going on, but I'll just review to how it is now.) I feel it better to decline over wait.
     
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  13. Black Mage

    Black Mage ~Pro Mafia Player~

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    @ Matt, I Changed Link already, So ATM, I can update it

    @ Roild, Feel Free to Decline it atm, I'm not done with the changes, and I hope with after my Changes, you will be willing to Change your decision
     
  14. Withoutatrace

    Withoutatrace im a filthy weeb

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    I'll give you a bit to make some changes to fix whatever you think needs to be, but at this point I don't really even know where to start in the idea of fixing it. As Roild said, it did start strong but at this point, there have been issue after issue that you can't seem to recover from and it's essentially hurting the overall theme.

    I would start from the basics of the theme again, for when it first went into review and go from there; Then again, I have the patience to do so, instead of trying to fix little after little, at this point, and then it just become shit after so many changes that don't work together.

    Like I said, I'll give you some time; do realize though that it if it doesn't improve, it will be a Decline from me as well.
     
  15. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    BM, I think it would be a good idea to take it off for a while, and figure out what exactly /needs/ changing. We can work on this at a later time, and it should be sufficient enough for the server.

    Although, its your call.

    To all those who arent Black Mage, could I please get some suggestions, and justify why they're needed?
     
  16. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    I can talk to Black Mage later today cause I have a really awesome idea to revamp the theme and make it more enjoyable while also going through the storyline of X and Y. I just don't want it to be public yet.
     
  17. Black Mage

    Black Mage ~Pro Mafia Player~

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    I will be very busy this week, and I am going away for 3 weeks, so I will try to finish my scripting, and you guys can do what ever you want with it for those 3 weeks for testing or bleh.
     
  18. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Look man, I know you're trying to help out and all, but if Black Mage needs help, he'll ask for it. He's got a life, too, and sometimes things just don't go the way they're planned. [/Philosophy]

    I think I'll be making the theme more centered on Gen 6 Mechanics (like Knock Off boost), Abilities, Genders and such, but have some elements like Animals (HP, attacks and such, with damage calculated with super effectiveness).

    It's going to take a lot of work, but I'll see if I can get it done within a couple months.
     
  19. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    And I understand that but you and I both know that this theme is sinking fast. Instead of making things more complex, maybe the theme needs to go more simplistic as my idea, which Black Mage knows about, accomplished.
     
  20. Black Mage

    Black Mage ~Pro Mafia Player~

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    Like I said before Joey, My Idea isn't Finished at all, It's sinking BECAUSE My idea isn't finished yet, we need to finish my idea and test it before we try other things
     
  21. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Alright, here if you need me then and I'll look at the changes you made after that.
     
  22. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    I'm done with making things simple. Simplicity is the reason why we enforce higher level thinking. Simplicity is the reason we have so many people choking and making bad plays and I'll admit I'm one of those people. Sometimes it's hard to formulate a good response in the given thirty seconds (by default at least) but what happens when we get too much time? We tend to overthink, especially from what I've been seeing.

    I want to veer from simplicity, yet make it something that wouldn't be too hard to conceptualize in our minds. And thus, I came up with Kalos.
     
  23. Withoutatrace

    Withoutatrace im a filthy weeb

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    This is essentially dead.
    I understand being busy, but outside of the side changes, it is essentially the -same- theme. I've given a week, aand with the reasons as last time, accompanied with the reasons Roild listed in his Decline, I shall Decline [3].

    It has potential, just not the dedication by the author as of now.
     
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