I'm really leaning toward Hellobye being scum just for his big thing yesterday about one of Duster and me being scum. But I can't really place his partner if he were scum, and I'd rather get it together now than later.
OK. It seems that I should claim. I am the jailer. I am suspecting Marquis as scum do only to the fact that NotMafia was jailed and the probability that both mafias were inactive is unlikely. However, this is not a valid reason to vote him. Also, to confirm that I am jailer, I was on Duster the night before he was lynched, hence I didn't vote him.
your claim is confusing and you should feel confused claim by each action each night also, does anyone want to claim bulletproof now?
I am a mere vanilla townie, If Arid is telling the truth I'm having trouble finding who out of Marquis, Pyanda and Hello could be partners. I think we're in set up 1 atm, I will be wary of any one shot fakeclaims.
I'm getting really more unsure that you're town now. It's just as likely that there's a bulletproof and your word choice suggests you know for sure what setup this is, which only scum do And thinking about it, it would be really easy to keep me alive with the "scum want to frame us" logic, since then I would very likely think you were town and you'd get my vote that way I'm a vanilla townie btw Hellobye or pyanda claim in your next post, order doesn't matter some you both look the same to me atm anyway
I can see a notmafia and hellobye team, but I really hope someone counterclaims jk because then it'd make today so much easier to narrow down
I was thinking that there isn't as you were my only town read and the fact that you hadn't claimed bulletproof led me to believe we didn't have one
If I were scum, I'd have killed you to 'clean' myself and I'd have claimed one shot after Arid claimed Jailkeeper. Then all I'd have to do is get Arid to vote for one of the two town players and my partner and I could hammer. I'm curious to see what Pyanda and Hello claim. I can't help but still have suspicions of Arid.
can we not wifom the kills like that pls it only looks worse and i really really really want to have at least one non-role related townread going into this
Votecount 3.2 Players In Game: - Arid Dream (0)- - Pyanda (0)- - Marquis (0)- - HelloByeXD (0)- - NotMafia (0)- - Not Voting (5)- Arid Dream, Pyanda, Marquis, HellobyexD, NotMafia 5 in 3 to hammer Game in LyLo (Lynch or loose) Deadline: 3 Days from this post 8th Feb
Right, that makes sense. You said it was a thought that you were just certain about, and yet you say your opinions might not be true, isn't that a contradiction? Also, I don't understand, it is a fact based conclusion or an opinionated assumption? Yes. This is for Arid. You automatically assumed that there is a jailkeeper, you asked for the jailkeeper to claim. Later you self claimed as jailkeeper, to cover up the mistake? You hardly defended yourself when you are close to getting lynched day 1. Yet doesn't provide a good confirmation of yourself being the jailkeeper. Still can not confirm that you are the jailkeeper. I agree with Marquis above. But not below. You also made an assumption, and contradicted your future self. Asking me and Hello to claim, and contradict your future self yet again. If I understand this correctly, you do not want someone's claim to interfere with your reads? I don't understand which aspects you mean when you say me and Hello look the same. I am not going to claim at the moment, unless I misunderstood what Marquis meant. You had always had suspicions of Arid, any reasons?
There is nothing contradictory in Marquis' posts. Refer to the OP again and then if you still have any question I will answer them. There is no benefit to town by you withholding your role, if your role contradicts Arid's then just say so. There is a possibility that Arid is roleblocker and was seeing if anyone would claim jailkeeper, if that's what you were hinting at, but this seems unnecesarily risky for scum at lylo. Until you and Hello claim this game is stalled and if you continue to withhold your claim I can only assume you are scum. Until you hellobye claim this game is stalled
I'll explain why I think there is a contradictory in Marquis' posts tomorrow. Fine, I claim Vanilla Townie.
no Marquis, I'm not bulletproof. I am a vanilla townie. You can lean towards me but as you can see there's practically nobody to be my partner.
Good, if my guess is correct Marquis is one shot and was setting a trap. And no I am not saying this because I am mafia roleblocker etc..
I wanted to see if anyone would jump the gun and be too eager, especially since Hellobye and Pyanda were newer players. In hindsight it probably wouldn't have worked since Arid claimed JK, Mafia knew there's a BP and wouldn't want to be counterclaimed if they faked BP. Also the fact that Pyanda didn't seem to know the possible mafia and town setups suggest he's new town rather than new scum, but... that would mean NM is scum. I'm fairly sure Hellobye is part of the mafia team either way, but I want to read Day 1 again before potentially throwing the game. bbl
I personally believe there is no bullet proof and that we are using the set up with 1 jailer and two mafia goons
My dilemma is that I do not think that Marquis is scum, but I can't see a Pyanda/Hellobye team. The fact that Treecko and Denzi did literally nothing isn't helpful. Looking for Pyanda and Hello interactions.
this also means Arid's results are even less accurate since there's an RB around but I think RB would more likely be on me with how vocal I/Roy was trying to be
the thing is Pyanda and Hellobye were both subbed in midway through the night iirc (will reread, idr) so they both had enough time to kill there was something nagging me about NM yesterday too so I'll try to find it
Marquis, you can't even deduce my partner if I was mafia which I'm not. NotMafia is considerably a clean townie and Arid Dream claims jailkeeper. That leaves my potential partners to be you and Pyanda. Since you obviously aren't my partner for openly accusing me, Pyanda is my only possible partner. But if I say I'm townie, then the scum team is Marquis and Pyanda. Besides, I followed the Duster lynch because Marquis who is very credible as a scumreader began it. You can't blame me for his being townie because you started the rand. Either way, it seems that Pyanda overlaps with the two potential scum teams and we can get Pyanda instead of choking between the decision of me or Marquis. Now, will Marquis be defending Pyanda because they are probable scum partners?
That post though, it makes a lot of sense if NM knowing a Mafia RB was in the setup, incorrectly guessed there that there was Cop+Doctor instead of JK+BP @Hellobye the possibilities are you/NM, you/Pyanda, NM/Pyanda. Still not sure if NM voting early today was to see if I would follow him for someone to hammer Arid, or if he was just eager town which I think town would be more cautious about knowing it was LYLO. Leaning toward NM/Pyanda and NM/Hello, the latter though.
Pyanda was subbed in n1 and hello was subbed in d2. Remember Pyanda was dismissing the possibility of aj's death being an Arid frame early d2 because you looked very likely to be killed, I know you said no wifom but this is the only argument I really have. If I were scum your death would benefit me as outlined earlier, why would I 1) incriminate myself as roleblocker 2) help prevent my best kill. The Arid vote was a very misguided attempt as pressuring him as he was so suspicious and if I cause us to lose the game because I will be very embarrassed
Actually I will post what I think of possible partnerships tomorrow. It's 1 am in my timezone and I am too tired to do this at my best right now.
I'm on my phone at worm so I can't make a proper post right now. I've been re-reading the thread looking for partnership tells but I haven't turned anything up. Hellobye behaved scummily yesterday; the bandwagoning and the attempt to narrow us down to two lynch options. Plus I don't like his buddying on me earlier as I've made a few pretty significant slip ups. Post 180# by Pyanda still looks very suspicious to me. Right now I'm thinking hello is the safest lynch A question for Pyanda and Hello. Should Arid claim who he plans to go on tonight and why?
One last thing. Mr. Dream. As the only truly clean person, I'd be curious to see your reads. Your posts about us being in set up 1 seem to imply you suspect Marquis. I've been looking at his and Roy's posts and I am struggling to find anything scummy. Any comments would be helpful right now.
Well, as Luanda and HellobyexD have posted very similar, they both seem equally scummy to me. Also, since HellobyexD hasn't even attempted to claim or talk today, he is probably the best lynch. I don't like how he tried to partner Marquis either. Also, Pyanda defending me was quite odd, but I will leave that to next day. No one else vote until Hellobye responds. Vote HellobyexD
You know what, whatever. Any combination of scum includes him IMO. Too scummy to not lynch today. Nobody hammer without hearing from him. He's scum anyway so no need to worry about quick hammer vote Hellobye
Also arid if I was scum why would I need to fake claim bp? I was being read as town anyway which was what Roy and I intended to draw night kills. Claiming bp as scum just brings me extra scrutiny
For the life of me I cannot see Marquis as scum. So I'm almost certain scum is pyanda and hellobye. But I was sure about Duster, MJ and Arid too. Pyanda I can see you there so anything you'd like to contribute?