Any why do you think this exactly? And what do you think of everyone else? You seem to have done a great job of hiding from all suspicion and swooping in to take someone t L-1 so you can avoid having to hammer. If you are town... Why have you been so inactive? Why have you ignored all question addressed to you? Why have you been so reluctant to post any real content and help scumhunt? Taking HellobyeXD off L-1 for the time being. I will be on periodically until the deadline and I am willing to hammer. unvote
do you see how easily and quickly the hellobye wagon grew? that's because duster is on it, and arid dream is probably his scum partner. notmafia, vote duster now. i'm 100% sure of this read
I was just thinking this Duster why did your constant votehopping settle on Arid? Your reason was to vote someone more active which he really wasn't, then as soon as the opportunity for an L-1 on MJ presented itself you sprang up. Seems like you wanted to use voting Arid as a defense later should he be lynched. Early in the phase there was confusion about who AJ's death would benefit, if you and Arid were scum if would serve a dual purpose of taking away Arid's voter and for you to say "why would I kill him he agreed with me?". Plus it would keep your options open to bus Arid to play in to your d1 strategy. Immediately come in, and take the attention off arid and on to something likely to distract village, the lack of a vote was conspicuous, a townie would have liked to vote to apply more pressure. Furthermore you continuously said Marquis accusation was baseless... Which he clearly did, he called you out on your constant RVS and the fact that you claimed you were fishing for reactions when you didn't wait for any sort of response. Then your story changes vote duster
I settled on arid because he was lurking while not making posts others were posting and being active, while arid just made one post, so I thought that was a good target And about the baseless thing I said the second vote was baseless, as I already responded to the first case, I.e. Seb votes me d1 and I respond to his accusations Seb votes me d2 without any new reason I ask him to clarify his new reasons
He doesn't need a new reason if he still suspects because of the same thing. It's not like you airtight debunked his accusation. Implying your 2nd and 3rd votes weren't serious and therefore not fishing for a reaction. Which one is it? Also why did you not vote for me or Marquis, we are very pressed for time as town and instead of choosing to ramp up the pressure on your scum team suspicion you waited for an easier lynch opportunity to present itself. I don't accept "I was not confident enough for a vote" or "You wouldn't have been lynched so there was no point". Why did you not apply more pressure to me or Marquis?
because he thinks i'm too hard of a lynch target and me calling you town made you unreachable as well granted i'm probably dying tonight now but as long as i can nail the scumteam today it works
I wanted for marquis to at least respond to my defense I said earlier: my suspicions weren't enough to warrant a vote. for one, I wanted to see how you guys would respond to my fos looking back now, i admit it would've been more useful to vote to vote, but I still wasn't sire so I went with my gut and waited to vote
at that point you weren't a lynch target. the day had just started and I let the town know about my thoughts
hNot buying it. I was waiting for someone to take Duster to L-1 to hammer because I didn't want him to have the ammunition of "you followed marquis' vote obv scumteam". But when Arid voted for hello I had to take my vote off him and decided I may as well move my vote to duster. Metal, Pyanda, one of you please hammer. We can't afford a no lynch at this point.
It wasn't about creating a lynch target it was about applying pressure. Also by "day had just started" you meant you had just become active we were still very much pressed for time at that point.
ugh these deadlines are so strict BUT let's get serious vote Duster Seriously, I'm following Marquis here. His wagons grow incredibly fast, and it's really getting me suspicious. There was also a beatiful OMGUS right in there, and after reading the conversation I feel Marquis is strong-town here. Most of the rest is already said.
Lynch or lose. If duster is town and a townie dies tonight then we'll be at 3v2 on d3, meaning we have to lynch correctly or lose (excluding the possibility of town PRs preventing a kill)
Votecount 2.3 Players In Game: - Arid Dream (0)- - Pyanda (0)- - MetalGross (0)- - Marquis (0)- - HelloByeXD (2)- Duster, Arid Dream L-2 - NotMafia (0)- - Duster (4)- Marquis, HellobyexD, NotMafia, MetalGross HAMMMMMMMER - Not Voting (1)-Pyanda 7 in 4 to hammer Deadline: NOW --- - Duster (4)- Marquis, HellobyexD, NotMafia, MetalGross HAMMMMMMMER Duster was lynched D2 they were Spoiler Vanilla Townie --- Night 2 Begins now Deadline: In 2 Days
Day 3 Start MetalGross was killed during the night They were: Vanilla Townie Votecount 3.1 Players In Game: - Arid Dream (0)- - Pyanda (0)- - Marquis (0)- - HelloByeXD (0)- - NotMafia (0)- - Not Voting (5)- Arid Dream, Pyanda, Marquis, HellobyexD, NotMafia 5 in 3 to hammer Game in LyLo (Lynch or loose) Deadline: 5 Days from this post 8th Feb
actually makes sense, scum probably thought i would be protected before I can do anything, if anyone has any results they should claim bbl
I think scum didn't want to kill me or Marquis so they can play the scumteam angle in Lylo. I'm risking scum being able to hammer here but I'm almost certain of this vote Arid Dream Respond please. As far I'm concerned Marquis is town (but I want to see your thoughts on duster being town) and scumteam is Arid with HellobyeXD/Pyanda. If Pyanda and HelloBYeXD are the scum then Treecko and Denzi I hate you
voting already wtff i'm still not sure what to think of duster being town you're still strong town to me so it's 2 of a/h/p but they've all played practically the same. i'll look at correlations later if you're actually mafia i have no clue who your partner would be between h/p so i'm just going to bite down now and assume you're town even if voting so quickly in lylo is scummy af
Assuming Arid is Scum and Pyanda or Hellobye is partner, just highlighting some posts. Pyanda defending Arid This was in regards to me saying no one really benefited from aj's death and it seemed to be an Arid Frame A hellobyexd lynch would have looked very possible at this point, not sure what to make of this comment This took Hellobyexd to L-1, maybe for Pyanda to hammer, if he flipped town then a duster lynch could be very probable the following day. I am thinking Arid/Pyanda scumteam right now
Hellobyexd subbed in for Denzi. This was in RVS so it could be completely meaningless but it didn't hurt to post. Also, I see you Pyanda
Great, came home today and the first news I recieved was my internet being down...what a great time to not have internet during lynch or loss! Personal matters aside, I see I am being suspected, time to defend myself! But not now though, I have work to do. I'll do my defending tomorrow, when I have spare time (and hopefully internet). P.s. Metal died? I thought NM would die to be honest, NM is active and seemed more like a threat to mafia...
Actually, I have time for one post. Excluding the possiblity of me and Hello as mafia? What about you and Marquis? Speaking of which: Hello, does that theory work in reverse? You did not present a reason with that vote. Arid countered it by saying he doesn't think it is a frame, I gave my perspective and a possible theory that suggested it wasn't a frame. The next 2 are not directed at me, and I am sure Arid knows how to defend himself... But since I am such a nice human being, I shall defend him some more in the risk of me looking bad again in NM's eyes. It's a fact? Take a look at this: I noticed that you are the one who took Duster to L-1, I could argue that you put Duster on L-1 maybe for Arid to hammer. (However, this is a very weak argument as you seem very sure in your recent posts that Arid is mafia. I shall expand on this point tomorrow when I have more time.) Arid should defend himself if he wants to. I sort of done our defending vaguely, but I really would like to see his reaction to this.
Pyanda why exactly is NotMafia supposed to keep open the possibility of him being scum? I don't even understand how you could ask that unless you're trying much too obviously to bait a scumslip.
This is quite an interesting argument. However, I'm surprised Duster wasn't mafia since he was so inactive until the moment he was getting voted. NotMafia, try not to push a vote so early because it really makes you look like scum whether you are or aren't. Of course I'm aware that Duster being townie accusing me makes me look like scum but I explained myself for being townie. It is odd how Arid Dream is not that active in the posts so my thoughts are that there is a good chance he is scum. This is just a guess on behalf of my instincts. NotMafia and Pyanda are arguing and this time, I'm very certain that one of them isn't townie. Marquis's rand was not the best so it's difficult to find someone you can trust. We still have plenty of time so we don't have to rush yet.
OK. To explain my absence, I was focuses on a Mafia game that is now over. Anyways, the probability is that either NotMafia or Marquis is scum with either Panda/HellobyexD. I doubt both mafia would have to sub out. I know this is shit reasoning, but that is what I believe. Also, shouldn't jailer claim at lylo?
Can you explain this in more detail please, I don't think I understand what this means. Good point, I just did it to show I am not bias towards one person, I don't want to leave anyone out. You said the same thing about Duster and Marquis, since Duster turned out to be town, does that mean Marquis is mafia?
aj and duster said they could see me and marquis as the scumteam. If scum kept both of us alive for lylo, they could try and convince the 5th player we were the scumteam
Pyanda, it was a thought that I was just certain about. Marquis COULD be mafia. Not every single one of my opinions are going to be true. NotMafia, if you consider both you and Marquis to be accused townies, that leaves one other townie between me, Pyanda, and Arid Dream. It's a good chance you can get mafia out. However, there are the chances both of you are mafia since you haven't thought of accusing each other yet but backing each other up. As of now, I have pretty such suspected everyone as potential mafia so it might or might not indicate that I have no partners I am helping. Pyanda seems to be taking a wide point of view but have you ever considered that Arid Dream might be scum? The pairings I have right now are Pyanda+Arid Dream and NotMafia+Marquis.