[NOC] NORMAL Mafia ◉ MAROON Thread ◉ [NOC] ◉ Game Over ◉ Finchinator and Raducan Win!

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  1. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    You are acting like you've won when we both know you're scum.
     
  2. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    You are acting like you are town*
    not like you've won
     
  3. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    I suspected and hinted at you being scum a tiny bit yesterday, because of your playing, I assumed luca. was the better target for scum. You 'failed' to pick up on Dreams role when you picked up on my play? I somehow don't believe that. You are a much better player than the rest of us new players. You used the experience you had to give advice at the beginning of the game which put you in a great position for mafia. Also, if I were scum, why would I go after the best player in the town who was already suspicious of another weaker player in the town?

    I'll be honest. Right now I'm scared of being lynched. I know I can't win an argument against you, so the village has pretty much lost.
     
  4. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Getting a read on Dreams is like predicting what people will use who have a 900 ranking on the ladder (See: SD Skarmory) - that's why I didn't pick up on his role. If you were scum, you'd go after me because you'd know that if you can turn the town against me you'd win. So, not only did you 180, but now you're going after me! Double-Scum!!!

    No, I won ^_^
     
  5. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Exactly. I'll let Milost deliver the verdict. I won't go down saying I gave up.
     
  6. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    You did play this well though. I gotta admit, you had me fooled for the majority of the game. You were a little nicer to people than you were in Vanilla, I should have noticed, but I just assumed that you were being nice out of courtesy to new players. I think we can craft your scum meta from this. I will flip town, the game rests with Milost.
     
  7. Marina

    Marina The Marshtomp has seen it all before.

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    Jeez guys, all this discussion while I'm taking a nap.
    I'm going to say one thing though, Rioku, if Finch was "nicer to people" than he was in Vanilla, how rude was he to people there exactly?
    I could plausibly see either one of you as the scum, but I'm leaning toward Finch slightly because he really did somehow escape suspicion entirely throughout the entire game. Though, he is right on how he didn't do some things that would have helped him were he the scum.
    I really do have no idea who to vote.
     
  8. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Finch can you answer my question? Why would I go after the strongest player in the town when said player is already suspicious of a weaker town player if I was scum? That makes absolutely no logical sense. You are dodging the question because you are scum and you can't answer it. I will not let town fall if I can stop it.
     
  9. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Tbh I expected you to straight up vote me or give me a 24 hour limit like Finch does. Thanks for the time. I will get at least some kind of argument of substance against Finch going.
     
  10. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Hi
    Sorry
    Responding now
     
  11. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    I was nice to everyone in Vanilla, bar Laurel. Laurel and I hate each other with a burning passion. Laurel was my scum read and he cursed me off, I just kept digging deep into my read and eventually he flipped scum.
     
  12. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    You would go after me then because you had more inexperienced players to form a wagon with. Now, I am here and you can't stop me.
     
  13. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    The players getting out means one thing, but the order you get the out is significant.

    You, mafia, are screwed as I am still alive and Milost, who has surprisingly proven to be hard as a Rock, is still alive, too.

    But , if you eroded away at the experienced players, like AJ kill night one, you could easily manipulate the weaker villagers and win. However, you didn't take that course of action - although it is logical and you cannot deny that as an answer to your question
     
  14. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    24 hour limit is because I have an aggressive town meta, see vanilla or earlier this game
     
  15. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Hi Milost.

    I am town, ok?
     
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    Marina The Marshtomp has seen it all before.

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    What's that supposed to mean?
     
  17. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    You don't listen to the poplar opinion; instead, you form your own
     
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    Marina The Marshtomp has seen it all before.

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    Oh, I see.
     
  19. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    I.e: You weren't on Luca wagon when he got hammered. You weren't in Raducan wagon when he got hammer.
     
  20. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Finch... I miss-played yesterday... Do you think I am in any position to pull off something like that? I am a bad mafia player look at vanilla, look at lucid dreamers.

    If you use my play yesterday as an example that is absurd. That play would create a win scenario for town as long as the inspector lived. At the time no one knew who the inspector was, so there was a good chance he would live to claim on the last day. To be honest I put way to much trust into you for that play.

    My scenario for you is this: You killed off the experienced players early so you could easier control the noob town. I was kept alive either for a) your counting on my miss-play as my record would suggest I would do eventually, or b) I was following every one of your actions early on and you didn't see me as a threat + my claim on having a worthless passive power made me the same as a vanilla townie to you.

    Your scenario that you gave me could also be applied to you.

    I know you think I 180d, and you're right I did, however, if someone you thought was town suddenly gave a scum read as huge as having the inspector call you out as scum, would you not do the same? I narrowed the scum down to you and luca. yesterday. Dreams was practically claiming he was inspector by saying Milost was town and that he couldn't say why. You fear hammered luca. before Dreams could claim because you didn't know what Dreams would say.
     
  21. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    You sound like Laurel in Vanilla. What did he end up as?

    So you are trying to cover your tracks while contradicting your previous actions, ok.

    If I was mafia, you would have been my second kill. That simple. You can't possibly try putting these words in my mouth and making these stretch assumptions to justify the unjustifiable. I am not scum

    First off, you never stated a strog scum-read in me yesterday. Secondly, you were on Luca. the whole time after Dreams wagon ended. Want to know why? Because I started the wagons and you just kept following me and the popular vote. One of us is a town leader, the other one of us is scum who tried fitting in with town by going with the flow. The latter of the two is you and we both know it. Finally, Dreams never said to wait and I gave the necessary time to everyone - when I lynched, it was already overdue time to hammer.
     
  22. Finchinator

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    Stop making things up and exaggerating upon yesterday, you will dig yourself a deeper whole.

    In addition, if you have this game-breaking read and you claimed to not say it to save your own ass when the village had slim chance of winning if you didn't say anything, you were just killing yourself in the end. There is no way a towny would be doing the lines of action you say you are doing. You have to be scum.
     
  23. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Finch if you were in my position yesterday, and I was in yours, would you have called me scum? No.
    Look at how I played when I got rand votes in Vanilla. Look at how I played in Lucid Dreamers. Those are my current scum and town meta's. Take your pick.
    Town will probably lose since I can't win against you.
     
  24. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    If we switched roles and I had a scum read on you yesterday, I would have most certainly called it out. If I don't, I just push the issue until I have less people on my side, if I am not night-killed, and you have a greater shot at winning.

    You acknowledged that you misplayed, and that was part of said misplay. You are mafia
     
  25. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    PS: Saying you can't win against me won't provoke any sympathy, nor suspicion against me, at this point.
     
  26. Marina

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    Er, isn't using something from a different game a pretty bad idea? I don't know how you're taking it, Finch, but I think Rioku using his playing in a different game as a defense is pretty flimsy.
     
  27. Finchinator

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    Using your/others attitudes from certain games to show how they act when they are in a certain position / role is employed by people as loose evidence to prove a point.

    In Rioku's case, he is using it about himself (which is iffy), he is emphasizing upon it too much (which is suspicious), and he isn't able to back it up or prove anyone else guilty (as we are both town) which leads is to the conclusion that Rioku is MAFIA
     
  28. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Screw it I'm done Finch you win. Milost please hammer. Mafia wins gg.
     
  29. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    GG

    Milost, we won! Wooo
    Just hammer and ez
     
  30. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Milost hammer and get it over with. I flip Smeargle, mafia wins another NOC.
     
  31. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Smeargle used Transform into non-normal type.
    Then you flip
     
  32. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Seriously Finch. Your gloating is annoying. I know if Milost hammer's me town loses, but there is no feasible way for me to convince Milost that as every argument I come up with will be torn apart by you. Milost hammer, I know Finch will convince you, so save time and do it now.
     
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    um wow
    I was going over Dreams' posts to see if he had anything useful for us
    But I don't think so.
    I prettified my notes though, so maybe you guys could check if I missed something?

    He didn't assume F/R at all, but this could simply mean that they were mentor/tutor people and therefore didn't bother inspecting.

    Additionally, due to this, he probably inspected me that night because everyone who was alive voted Raducan I think, so the only other active poster was me. And no point in inspecting someone who isn't posting.

    That post makes it quite likely that I was his first inspect.

    I'm just going to make a list of these.

    To be honest, we should have either taken this as "I AM INSPECTOR". What other role would need to check his PMs?

    Dreams definitely did not inspect luca or Rioku that last night. If we assume that his first inspect was me, which I think I have enough evidence to show that, then either Finch or Kyu was his inspect this round.

    That one is telling me that he probably did indeed inspect Kyu that night, because he's showing a bit of doubt in his "Finch is town."
    Or he could have inspected aj, but that's unlikely as 1. he suspected aj day 2 and 2. he didn't even notice that aj died.

    This probably shows that neither Finch nor Rioku was inspected, since he was following both of you. I could be wrong though.
     
  34. Marina

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    in short
    there is no help from the inspector.
     
  35. Finchinator

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    Didn't mean to gloat, but if you get hammered, town wins
     
  36. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    I don't think he inspected either of us, but even if he inspected me it wouldn't matter as he would not have gotten a result. My passive power makes me immune to all actions taken against me during the night phase bar kills.
     
  37. Finchinator

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    Agreed.
    dreams is still new, he has a lot of potential, but has to hone it in through playing more
     
  38. Finchinator

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    MASSIVE POWER IS THE POWER TO KILL PEOPLE
    YOU ARE MAFIA
     
  39. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    It's after midnight I have a calculus test tomorrow. I expect someone to be hammered when I wake up.
     
  40. Marina

    Marina The Marshtomp has seen it all before.

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    Well then, that was a pointless use of my time.
    The choice of who to lynch falls to me, then.
    I'm honestly contemplating a coin flip.