Sesame Street

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  1. Roild

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    https://raw.github.com/Roild/Derka/master/True SS

    Theme is too large to fit on pastebin, so it won't fit here!

    Alright, let's get to business.

    Now Sesame Street seems like a childish topic, but this is after the events of the show. Years passed, people grew up and had to get actual jobs. Big Bird became a politician, Cookie Monster has become a respected businessman, Ernie became a Private Detective, Elmo is trying to take over for him and Dorothy, his fish, Count and Grouch have become town pariahs, and more members are here to represent Sesame Street.

    Theme is staying nonPeak for a new thing I managed to do - Town Watcher! With Bert and Ernie as Stalker and Watcher and two mafias ignoring stalk and watch, I have recreated Twin Traps as well because of this! Oscar the Grouch will be an interesting touch as Grouch can only distract at first until Count dies.

    Big Bird is the Village Mayor who gains votes depending on the number of village members alive. This means that if there are no villagers alive, he has no one to be a mayor of and will subsequently... not be! Cookie Monster doesn't get lynched without a fight, devouring the first person to vote him.

    The code will be relatively wild to anyone who doesn't understand it, so feel free to ask me how something works.

    Accepts - Windblown, Mewtwohidden, Magnamon
    Declines - Solace
    Tests - Wind, Mewtwo, Solace, Marquis
    Waiting on - Marquis


    Roles!
    Rosita - Basic Villager with one vote.

    Zoe - Basic Villager with one vote.

    Ernie - Stalker with one vote. sided with Village.

    Bert - Watcher(!) with one vote. Sided with Village.

    Abby - 2-shot PL with one vote. Sided with Village.

    Cookie Monster - Kills whoever votes it first when voted out. Sided with Village.

    Big Bird - Mayor. Number of votes depend of number of village members. Sided with Village.

    Grover - Has 1x daykill with one vote. Sided with Village.

    Count - Fastest killer in the game. Converts grouch if he dies. Sided with Outcasts.

    Grouch1 - can distract. powers up if count dies. Sided with Outcasts.
    Grouch2 - Slowest kill. immunity to distract. Sided with Outcasts.


    Elmo - killer who ignores stalk. Sided with Elmo's World!

    Dorothy - killer who ignores watch. Sided with Elmo's World.


    Spawn! Minimum of 4 players, 12 max.
    Elmo or Dorothy, - They ignore one of the others' actions, but can easily incriminate others if done right.
    Ernie or Bert, - Stalker or Watcher. Can do something or nothing.
    "rosita",
    "zoe" - two villies.

    Games of 4 are quick. Not the real core of this theme, but is functional by mafia standards.

    {"elmo": 0.1, "dorothy": 0.1},
    "count",
    "bert",
    "ernie",
    "abby1"
    ],

    Count keeps balance here at 5p. abby can mess with bert and ernie, claims won't happen because of this -- since there's no bodyguard. And the final mafia will ignore one or the other.
    Abby has 2 shots to distract, which is most likely enough --- although possibility to backfire!

    6-8
    Count
    "elmo",
    "dorothy",
    "bert",
    "ernie",
    "abby1",
    "cookie",
    {"zoe": 0.1, "rosita": 0.1} - either is fine. same thing in the end.
    This is the first time both elmo and dorothy spawn, showing the best of twin traps -- with a vote bomb twist! (followed by a villager. :3)

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    "count",
    "elmo",
    "dorothy",
    "bert",
    "ernie",
    "cookie",
    "abby1",
    {"zoe": 0.1, "rosita": 0.1},
    "grouch1",
    "big bird5"

    Now Big Bird spawns and both grouch and count takes the field.


    After this, Grover spawns and Big Bird has to force the spawn to go up with him or else he wouldn't get all of his proper votes. :D


    Priorities! 7 night actions in total.
    1 - Oscar THE Grouch v1's distract
    2 - Abby's distract
    3 - The Count's kill
    4 - Elmo/Dorothy (same prio/action)
    5 - Oscar THE Grouch v2's kill
    6 - Ernie's Stalk
    7 - Bert's Watch


    Sides:
    Village:Cookie Monster, Big Bird, Bert, Ernie, Grover, Rosita, Abby, Zoe
    Mafia Side 1:Elmo and Dorothy - Elmo's World
    Mafia Side 2: Count + Grouch - Outcasts
     
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  2. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    You Roild. Only you, Roild. Only you would go through all that work to make a Town Watcher. :x

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    2. "lynchmsg": "±Jerry Nelson: 'Dear ~Player~, you have been found guilty of being  ~Role~, and you are now sentenced to death by Electric Chair!'",
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    This, though. Why not just replace it with the role being forgotten or something? The sentenced to death (which is quite literally what a lynch is) concept is sort of overrated. In fact the words 'killed' and 'dead' are so overrated, repetition is okay sometimes but this theme has an excuse to use something other than death for a killmsg and a lynchmsg. Hell, throw them in the trash. Say that they are now considered rubbish. Something to deviate away from anything relating to murder. (okay, maybe not anything, but the concept as I said is so overrated it's not even worth using anymore)

    Also, for those who are wondering what a Watcher is, click here.

    Would also be convenient to describe to them what the converts are there for, cuz I for one am confused on how the converts work. I'm not going to skim through the code especially since it's late morning and my vision is getting a little blurry, but I'll take a look at the code tomorrow and see what I can get from it.
     
  3. Roild

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    TOWN WATCHER. I wanted it dark. I can do so while incorporating something other than death for lynch maybe! Trash is weak.


    Uh. Don't worry about the converts, let me worry about blank. But really, it's for reveals. Already tested and verified.
     
  4. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    its*

    His name is Oscar the Grouch...
     
  5. Roild

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    I meant Oscar the Grouch, not Oscar and Grouch. Sure I'll change that. My bad. And okay at its.
     
  6. Windblown

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    TOWN WATCHER.

    I'll be the first to Test [1]/Approve [1]. I've seen the mafiascum setup played in RTM games and it seems to work out well, plus the interesting toys you've given village helps games stay fresh and fun while also forcing village to play somewhat cautiously (village votebomb, variable vote mayor, two-shot PL). Watcher is of course a very interesting role I want to see put forth.

    Lack of BG is also fun because it strays away from games that are 'find the BG'. You have a bunch of PRs that can claim and possibly link village while alive but the mafias can easily dispose of them (provided they don't get hit by Abby, of course).
     
  7. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Just because it worked for RTM doesn't really mean it can work for Mafia. While it's just my two cents, some themes that were in review sort of attest to it. Though, this seems like it belongs on the server. The flavor, though. It does bring something up to the table more than just a broad concept (Oracle has Oracle, Soldier, General, Genie, Geeny, now that we're comparing themes) but still, Sesame Street? :x

    Not that flavor is more important to the overall theme than gameplay or balance is.

    Lack of BG is also something new to the table. All in all, it sort of gives bad guys a sense of purpose in order to balance the village. It prevents a source of information like the town watcher or the pl from claiming.

    Elmo/Dorothy seems like a very good idea and can sometimes force games into Vanilla (granted some PRs are dead :x0

    For 6-8p spawn, I suggest putting Cookie Monster at 8, because votebombs can go both ways -- it could end up backfiring for village, and village doesn't have a surefire and reliant process on eliminating scum. (twin traps as you've referenced).

    Although, what do you think about making Ernie and Bert lovers get role reveal on each other?
     
  8. Roild

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    Ya, I changed stuff from the actual Twin Trap setup. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Twin_Trap <- actual setup.

    That setup is 7v2, only one mafia controls the kill and can be watched/stalked. This one is different because of how mafia scripts work and I also changed things to allow for variable games (with grouch and count). Lack of BG is a weakness, but also strategically removed.

    Cookie monster is supposed to hurt village at 6, while also scaring some mafias. Village is very strong, he's more of a liability really.

    Village is strong enough. No lover/mason. >_>
     
  9. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    Approve [2]/Test [2]

    Very nice concept indeed. I like how the village has a harder time connecting, but arguably needs connecting more than in most themes. (Bert and Ernie need to be together to fully clean any player, and also Big Bird and Grover need to be connected to the rest of the village to kill/lynch safely or risk losing an important town role and lose a vote/the only daykill charge.)

    One thing I saw though that might be off, not sure to be honest. "..... He stands on all the fallen puppets on (of>on maybe) Sesame Street and triumphs."
    also this "The Outcasts have destroyed all the dolls in sight (and Dorothy). Only followers of the outcasts are now allowed on the street. The Streets are now filled with trash and everything is methodically numbered." Maybe you should capitalize the underlined "o" because it is used as a Proper Noun in this sentence. I'm not sure about that either but I might be right.

    I'll look forward to playing this on server if it gets tested/approved.
     
  10. Solace

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    Pronouns.

    In Bert's help: "Nothing upset you more than having to stay up all night".
    upsets*

    In Abby's info: "Can distract once per night, up to twice per game.. Sided with 123 Sesame Street. ",
    Remove the repeated period.

    In Oscar's distract message: "distractmsg": "You found yourself surrounded by thrash that was placed by the Grouch wanting to get rid of the smell, you decided to cleanse yourself off the smell.",
    of*

    Skull > Skill in Grover's DK message. Already pointed out. Here's my reminder!

    ---

    Anywho, the mechanics look fine in theory. There's plenty of new stuff to offer and the flavor is nice (frying people in an electric chair though?). I'm not going to jump on the approval bandwagon until we know the 9001 lines of code work as intended so here's my Test[3].
     
  11. Roild

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    Mechanics verified on my server with special mafia scripts. If uploaded, keep disabled until the server's mafia scripts change to allow curse to be before poisons. Otherwise, like I mentioned, the theme will not function properly (lack of death reveals).
     
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    You can upload when ready.
     
  13. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Just to be sure, who's coding that feature? I still didn't see a commit with that feature.
     
  14. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    Trash, too, if I'm not mistaken
     
  15. Magnamon

    Magnamon Radiance of Miracles

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    Themes that aim to be non-peak often either have issues with balancing or they lack that specialty that makes them unique and fun to play. I can't help but feel that the kill and lynch messages are a bit wordy, but that's aside from the fact. This theme looks quite promising imo. Though the coding looks horrendous and superfluous, the idea of a town watcher is quite intriguing. I look forward to seeing it in action on the server during testing and hopefully as an approved theme.
     
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  16. Roild

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    All of those things fixed. I'll see how to change the lynch.
     
  17. Solace

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    I was told not to disable the theme so I'm assuming everything is ready to go. If not, blame Fuzzy. :D

    Anywho, here's a log.

    (02:02:55) ±Game: Now Sesame Street seems like a childish topic, but this is after the events of the show. Years passed, people grew up and had to get actual jobs. Big Bird became a politician, Cookie Monster has become a respected businessman, Ernie became a Private Detective, Elmo is trying to take over for him and Dorothy, his fish, Count and Grouch have become town pariahs, and more members are here to represent Sesame Street. If you find any problems, PM one of the theme authors, Roild or Meloetta / Marill / etc. Lynchmsg may change, not sure yet.
    (02:02:55) ±Game: A Cute Corsola, Marill joined the game!
    (02:02:58) ±Game: Karp Karpity joined the game!
    (02:02:59) Solace: I'm always trying to be an obv something
    (02:02:59) ±Game: Pichi joined the game!
    (02:03:02) Solace: usually Metapod
    (02:03:04) ZoroDark joined the channel.

    (02:03:05) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (02:03:09) ±CommandBot: The command join\ doesn't exist
    (02:03:12) ±Game: Solace joined the game!
    (02:03:13) kelfi: corsola is cute
    (02:03:14) A Cute Corsola: Corsola is very cute
    (02:03:15) Solace: Metapod here.
    (02:03:18) Solace: METAPOD
    (02:03:19) A Cute Corsola: kelfi <3
    (02:03:20) Rosina: Corsola is cuter than every pkmn
    (02:03:20) ZoroDark left the channel.
    (02:03:21) Marill: what is a corosola
    (02:03:21) Marill: ??
    (02:03:27) ±Game: Anyone joined the game!
    (02:03:29) Marill: is it edible
    (02:03:31) A Cute Corsola: it's something better than marill
    (02:03:32) Rosina: Solace i love your color
    (02:03:32) ZoroDark joined the channel.
    (02:03:34) A Cute Corsola: not really
    (02:03:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:03:36) Times Up! :
    (02:03:36) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (02:03:36) ±Game: You are a Ernie!
    (02:03:36) ±Game: You are the Insomnic being, Ernie. You've since used your sleep deprivation to get a job as a Private Detective, working at night to see what people do. Because of this, you spend your time observing others. Some people have filed charges to keep you away, but you still find ways to watch what they do at night with /stalk.
    (02:03:36) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie.
    (02:03:36) ±Current Players: A Cute Corsola, Anyone, Karp Karpity, Marill, Pichi, Solace.
    (02:03:36) ±Current Team: Abby, Bert, Ernie
    (02:03:36) ±Time: Night 1
    (02:03:36) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (02:03:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:03:40) A Cute Corsola: but you can eat it and explode
    (02:03:41) Solace: Is it bigger than a breadbox?
    (02:03:41) A Cute Corsola: <3
    (02:03:42) ZoroDark left the channel.
    (02:03:43) Solace: and ty, Rosina.
    (02:03:53) ±Game: You have chosen to stalk Marill!
    (02:03:53) ZoroDark joined the channel.
    (02:03:58) A Cute Corsola: ok so twin traps
    (02:04:04) Marill: I should stop being lazy
    (02:04:05) A Cute Corsola: is fun
    (02:04:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:04:05) Times Up! :
    (02:04:05) ±Game: Your target (Marill) visited A Cute Corsola this night!
    (02:04:05) ±Game: Your target (Marill) has been converted and is now a Puppet!
    (02:04:05) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of A Cute Corsola {Dorothy} scattered across Sesame Street.
    (02:04:05) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Pichi {Bert} scattered across Sesame Street.
    (02:04:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:04:05) ±Current Roles: Abby, Count, Elmo, Ernie.
    (02:04:05) ±Current Players: Anyone, Karp Karpity, Marill, Solace.
    (02:04:06) ±Current Team: Abby, Ernie
    (02:04:06) ±Time: Day 1
    (02:04:06) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (02:04:06) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:04:11) Marill: and make it caps
    (02:04:16) Karp Karpity: mixed night
    (02:04:24) Anyone: hmm
    (02:04:25) Solace: Marill visted A Cute Corsola.
    (02:04:30) Solace: or
    (02:04:32) Solace: yes
    (02:04:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:04:35) ±Current Roles: Abby, Count, Elmo, Ernie.
    (02:04:35) ±Current Players: Anyone, Karp Karpity, Marill, Solace.
    (02:04:35) ±Current Team: Abby, Ernie
    (02:04:35) ±Time: Day 1
    (02:04:35) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (02:04:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:04:39) Marill: I pled
    (02:04:50) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (02:04:50) ±Role: Abby
    (02:04:50) ±Ability: Can distract once per night, up to twice per game. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (02:04:50) ±Players: Players
    (02:04:50) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (02:04:50) ±Role: Abby
    (02:04:50) ±Ability: Can distract once per night, up to twice per game. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (02:04:50) ±Players: 5-12 Players
    (02:04:50) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    (02:04:59) Solace: so
    (02:05:03) Solace: hm
    (02:05:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:05:05) Times Up! :
    (02:05:05) No one was voted off! :
    (02:05:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:05:05) ±Current Roles: Abby, Count, Elmo, Ernie.
    (02:05:05) ±Current Players: Anyone, Karp Karpity, Marill, Solace.
    (02:05:05) ±Current Team: Abby, Ernie
    (02:05:05) ±Time: Night 2
    (02:05:05) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (02:05:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:05:12) ±Game: You have chosen to stalk Karp Karpity!
    (02:05:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:05:35) Times Up! :
    (02:05:35) ±Game: Your target (Karp Karpity) visited Anyone this night!
    (02:05:35) ±Game: 1 death, 2 deaths, 3 deaths. Who will be the next?' You found yourself slowly falling to the ground, dead, as the Count leaves with your number.
    (02:05:35) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Solace {Ernie} scattered across Sesame Street.

    (02:05:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:05:35) ±Current Roles: Abby, Count, Elmo.
    (02:05:35) ±Current Players: Anyone, Karp Karpity, Marill.
    (02:05:35) ±Time: Day 2
    (02:05:35) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (02:05:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:05:49) Karp Karpity: dear
    (02:05:52) Anyone: seems like i turn intoa pumpkin
    (02:06:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:06:05) ±Current Roles: Abby, Count, Elmo.
    (02:06:05) ±Current Players: Anyone, Karp Karpity, Marill.
    (02:06:05) ±Time: Day 2
    (02:06:05) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (02:06:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:06:07) Marill: you were pled?
    (02:06:08) Marill: it's a tie
    (02:06:09) Marill: :o
    (02:06:16) Marill: unless we vote out abby
    (02:06:19) ±Game: Marill voted for Karp Karpity!
    (02:06:22) Karp Karpity: no
    (02:06:24) ±Game: Karp Karpity voted for Marill!
    (02:06:25) ±Game: Anyone voted for Marill!
    (02:06:26) ***************************************************************************************
    (02:06:26) Times Up! :
    (02:06:26) ±Jerry Nelson: 'Dear Marill, you have been found guilty of being Count, and you are now sentenced to death by Electric Chair!'
    (02:06:26) ±Game: Elmo's world is the only good world. The hard fought battle has ended. He stands on all the fallen puppets on Sesame Street and triumphs. A winner has emerged and Elmo's rule will last forever for Sesame Street is long gone and what remains of it is now renamed to 'Elmo Street' for him and his fish, Dorothy, to play on forever!
    (02:06:26) ±Game: The 123 Sesame Street (Karp Karpity) lose!
    (02:06:26) ***************************************************************************************

    (02:07:58) *** ::: ::: Log for ss-themed mafia game ::: ::: *
    (02:07:58) Players: A Cute Corsola (Dorothy), Marill (Count), Karp Karpity (Abby), Pichi (Bert), Solace (Ernie), Anyone (Elmo)
    (02:07:58) *** NIGHT PHASE 1 ***
    (02:07:58) Marill used: /kill A Cute Corsola
    (02:07:58) A Cute Corsola used: /kill Solace
    (02:07:58) Pichi used: /watch Solace
    (02:07:58) Solace used: /stalk Marill
    (02:07:58) Anyone used: /kill Pichi
    (02:07:58) *** STANDBY PHASE 1 ***
    (02:07:58) *** VOTING PHASE 1 ***
    (02:07:58) *** NIGHT PHASE 2 ***
    (02:07:58) Karp Karpity used: /distract Marill, /distract Anyone
    (02:07:58) Marill used: /kill Solace
    (02:07:58) Solace used: /stalk Karp Karpity
    (02:07:58) Anyone used: /kill Solace
    (02:07:58) *** STANDBY PHASE 2 ***
    (02:07:58) *** VOTING PHASE 2 ***
    (02:07:58) Marill used: /vote Karp Karpity
    (02:07:58) Karp Karpity used: /vote Marill
    (02:07:58) Anyone used: /vote Marill
    (02:07:58) *** GAME END ***
    (02:07:59) Winners: Elmo's World (Anyone)
    (02:07:59) Losers: Karp Karpity

    I've highlighted an issue in the first log. Change the priority so that the stalk occurs after the death to prevent deadtalking and whatnot.
     
  18. Roild

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    Stalk can't occur after poison. Prios have already been set to accomodate no dead talking, but poison is after prios anyway. Only solution would be to add distract to all kill moves - thus not letting prios after that kill occur. Seems fine. Will do it.



    Edits:

    WHEEEEEEEE, fixed like... 10 things. Mostly small things like ~players~, some messages, some broadcasts, stuff that wasn't part of the functional/logical stuff. Now all seems good. :D

    Now for a different matter -

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    2. (03:02:02) *** SS WIN DATA ***
    3. (03:02:02) Theme Played: 11 times
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    5. (03:02:02) 1: Elmo's World. Times Won: 7. Average Players per win: 7.86
    6. (03:02:02) 2: Outcasts. Times Won: 3. Average Players per win: 8.33
    7. (03:02:02) 3: 123 Sesame Street. Times Won: 1. Average Players per win: 9
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    9. (03:02:02) ±Stats: For more details, check http://server.pokemon-online.eu/mafiathemes/ss_stats.html
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    From the games I've seen, village does not play too well. Given the initial burst of pure mafia stuff, I can't say I'm too surprised. Players should be required to communicate, coordinate, and even possibly scumhunt to be able to win over others. I've allowed lots of powers to village to be able to remove threats, yet they seem to fizzle. I have noticed too much power from elmo at 6p though, so I'll be changing that one.
     
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  19. Magnamon

    Magnamon Radiance of Miracles

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    Okay, so I just played a game of SS for the first time, and despite the fact that village failed epicly, it was fun. I'm noting that the village, with total lack of connection, tends to have difficulty with the game in general. Seeing as this is a brand new theme though with new mechanics, I'll give it time to see how it pans out. Personally I like how it tends to force you into vanilla tactics of scumhunting and the like as Roild said. Anyhow, here's the log of the game. http://pastebin.com/bDU5YQ8v
     
  20. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Log here
    (11:22:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:22:58) ±Game: ShatteredDreams started a game with theme ss (Sesame Street)!
    (11:22:58) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
    (11:22:58) ***************************************************************************************

    (11:22:58) ±Game: Now Sesame Street seems like a childish topic, but this is after the events of the show. Years passed, people grew up and had to get actual jobs. Big Bird became a politician, Cookie Monster has become a respected businessman, Ernie became a Private Detective, Elmo is trying to take over for him and Dorothy, his fish, Count and Grouch have become town pariahs, and more members are here to represent Sesame Street. If you find any problems, PM one of the theme authors, Roild or Meloetta / Marill / etc. Lynchmsg may change, not sure yet.
    (11:22:58) ±Game: ShatteredDreams joined the game!
    (11:23:02) ±Game: brock 2.0 joined the game!
    (11:23:03) ±Game: A Random Llama joined the game!
    (11:23:04) ±Game: Vinyl.Scratch joined the game!
    (11:23:04) ±Game: Garashi joined the game!
    (11:23:04) ±Game: Veteran Padgett joined the game!
    (11:23:05) ShatteredDreams: Weeee
    (11:23:08) ±Game: Selena Gomez joined the game!
    (11:23:19) Zidane FFIX: plz no sesame street
    (11:23:24) ±Game: Zuza joined the game!
    (11:23:24) Vinyl.Scratch: Hai der
    (11:23:26) Zidane FFIX: i dont want to see bert getting gunned down by ernie
    (11:23:27) ShatteredDreams: Mafia is op

    (11:23:27) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (11:23:34) Vinyl.Scratch: So much blue
    (11:23:35) Vinyl.Scratch: O_O
    (11:23:36) brock 2.0: whats royals?
    (11:23:40) ShatteredDreams: kol
    (11:23:43) A Random Llama: i wanna be elmo!
    (11:23:45) ShatteredDreams: Royals is...
    (11:23:46) ±Game: TooLazy4Name joined the game!
    (11:23:48) Vinyl.Scratch: Much much blue
    (11:23:48) ±Game: Zidane FFIX joined the game!
    (11:23:48) ±Game: Matt Ayala joined the game!
    (11:23:49) Vinyl.Scratch: o3o
    (11:23:50) Selena Gomez: elmo=scum
    (11:23:51) Selena Gomez: !
    (11:23:56) ShatteredDreams: Lol no
    (11:23:57) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:23:57) Times Up! :
    (11:23:57) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (11:23:57) ±Game: You are a Dorothy!
    (11:23:57) ±Game: Being inquisitive and possessing an active imagination, you share the same thoughts as your owner, Elmo, and wish to possess Sesame Street. Use /kill to drown your target in your fish bowl. As you never leave your fish bowl, you can't be watched (but can be stalked)!
    (11:23:57) ±Game: Your team is brock 2.0 (Elmo) and Matt Ayala (Dorothy).
    (11:23:57) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Big Bird, Cookie Monster, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Oscar the Grouch, Zoe.
    (11:23:57) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, ShatteredDreams, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Vinyl.Scratch, Zidane FFIX, Zuza, brock 2.0.
    (11:23:57) ±Current Team: Dorothy, Elmo
    (11:23:57) ±Time: Night 1
    (11:23:57) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:23:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:23:58) brock 2.0: can i be elmo?
    (11:24:01) brock 2.0: darn
    (11:24:13) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Selena Gomez!
    (11:24:17) ShatteredDreams: aha
    (11:24:23) Selena Gomez: elmo you are exposer
    (11:24:24) Zuza: bert.... why
    (11:24:25) ±Game: Your partner (brock 2.0) has decided to kill 'Zuza'!
    (11:24:25) Selena Gomez: claim please
    (11:24:27) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:24:27) Times Up! :
    (11:24:27) ±Game: You found yourself surrounded by trash that was placed by the Grouch wanting to get rid of the smell, you decided to cleanse yourself of the smell.
    (11:24:27) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Zuza (Cookie Monster) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (11:24:27) ±Game: With another resident of Sesame Street down, Big Bird loses another supporter.
    (11:24:27) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:24:27) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Big Bird, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Oscar the Grouch, Zoe.
    (11:24:27) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, ShatteredDreams, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Vinyl.Scratch, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:24:27) ±Current Team: Dorothy, Elmo
    (11:24:27) ±Time: Day 1
    (11:24:27) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (11:24:27) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:24:36) ShatteredDreams: smh
    (11:24:44) Vinyl.Scratch: Kinky Monstar, NUUUUUUUUUUU
    (11:24:48) *** Zidane FFIX hands out magnum revolvers to everyone
    (11:24:50) ShatteredDreams: Kk pm me
    (11:24:53) ShatteredDreams: I'll lead
    (11:24:57) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:24:57) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Big Bird, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Oscar the Grouch, Zoe.
    (11:24:57) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, ShatteredDreams, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Vinyl.Scratch, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:24:57) ±Current Team: Dorothy, Elmo
    (11:24:57) ±Time: Day 1
    (11:24:57) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:24:57) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:25:06) ShatteredDreams: Or I Rand
    (11:25:09) brock 2.0: ok
    (11:25:12) brock 2.0: lead
    (11:25:18) Veteran Padgett: who converts?
    (11:25:21) ±Game: Vinyl.Scratch voted for TooLazy4Name!
    (11:25:26) Vinyl.Scratch: Rand ftw
    (11:25:27) Selena Gomez: umm
    (11:25:28) ±Game: Veteran Padgett voted for Vinyl.Scratch!
    (11:25:28) Vinyl.Scratch: ._.
    (11:25:29) *** A Random Llama accepts zidane's magnum
    (11:25:32) Vinyl.Scratch: ,_,
    (11:25:32) chocobrownie won against Matt Ayala.
    (11:25:33) brock 2.0: tied?
    (11:25:34) Vinyl.Scratch: Puppet
    (11:25:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:25:35) Times Up! :
    (11:25:35) No one was voted off! :
    (11:25:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:25:35) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Big Bird, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Oscar the Grouch, Zoe.
    (11:25:35) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, ShatteredDreams, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Vinyl.Scratch, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:25:35) ±Current Team: Dorothy, Elmo
    (11:25:35) ±Time: Night 2
    (11:25:35) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:25:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:25:37) Vinyl.Scratch: ,_,
    (11:25:44) Vinyl.Scratch: Now watch
    (11:25:44) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Vinyl.Scratch!
    (11:25:47) ±Game: You are a Dorothy!
    (11:25:47) ±Game: Being inquisitive and possessing an active imagination, you share the same thoughts as your owner, Elmo, and wish to possess Sesame Street. Use /kill to drown your target in your fish bowl. As you never leave your fish bowl, you can't be watched (but can be stalked)!
    (11:25:47) ±Game: Your team is brock 2.0 (Elmo) and Matt Ayala (Dorothy).
    (11:25:47) Zidane FFIX: ok now shoot ur fellow pedestrians
    (11:25:48) Vinyl.Scratch: he gonna be scum
    (11:25:50) Vinyl.Scratch: ;-;
    (11:25:52) ShatteredDreams: Hmm
    (11:25:55) A Random Llama: but i dont wanna!
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Abby
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Can distract once per night, up to three times per game. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 5, 8-12 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Bert
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Can watch once per night to see who the player visited. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 2-12 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Big Bird
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Mayor. Number of votes depend of number of village members. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Cookie Monster
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Kills whoever votes it first when voted out. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 6-12 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Count
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Can Kill. Sided with Outcasts.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 6-12 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Dorothy
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Can kill. Ignores Watch. Sided with Elmo's world.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 1-12 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Elmo
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Can kill. Ignores Stalk. Sided with Elmo's world.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 1-12 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Ernie
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Can Stalk once per night. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 2-12 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Grover
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Can Daykill once per game. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Oscar the Grouch
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Can Distract. Sided with Outcasts.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 7-12 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Oscar the Grouch
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Ignores Distract. Can Kill. Sided with Outcasts.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 5 Players
    (11:26:05) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:05) ±Role: Rosita
    (11:26:05) ±Ability: Villager. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:26:05) ±Players: 3-4, 6-8, 12 Players
    (11:26:06) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:06) ±Role: Zoe
    (11:26:06) ±Ability: Villager. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:26:06) ±Players: 4, 6-8, 11-12 Players
    (11:26:06) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:26:06) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:26:06) Times Up! :
    (11:26:06) ±Game: Your target (Vinyl.Scratch) was poisoned!
    (11:26:06) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of ShatteredDreams (Big Bird) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (11:26:06) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Vinyl.Scratch (Zoe) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (11:26:06) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:26:06) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Oscar the Grouch.
    (11:26:06) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:26:06) ±Current Team: Dorothy, Elmo
    (11:26:06) ±Time: Day 2
    (11:26:06) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (11:26:06) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:26:16) brock 2.0: wow
    (11:26:26) brock 2.0: ...
    (11:26:31) TooLazy4Name: brokc
    (11:26:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:26:35) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Oscar the Grouch.
    (11:26:35) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:26:35) ±Current Team: Dorothy, Elmo
    (11:26:36) ±Time: Day 2
    (11:26:36) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:26:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:26:36) brock 2.0: y all of u so silent
    (11:26:38) TooLazy4Name: who claims?
    (11:26:43) Matt Ayala: no one
    (11:26:45) TooLazy4Name: i am randing otherwise
    (11:26:45) Selena Gomez: nobody
    (11:26:45) Matt Ayala: no bg
    (11:26:50) brock 2.0: ok
    (11:26:50) ±Game: TooLazy4Name voted for Selena Gomez!
    (11:26:55) ±Game: Selena Gomez voted for TooLazy4Name!
    (11:26:55) brock 2.0: wow
    (11:26:56) ±Game: Zidane FFIX voted for Selena Gomez!
    (11:26:58) ±Game: Veteran Padgett voted for Selena Gomez!
    (11:26:59) ±Game: Garashi voted for Selena Gomez!
    (11:27:00) Selena Gomez: k
    (11:27:01) ±Game: Matt Ayala voted for Selena Gomez!
    (11:27:05) Selena Gomez: Why do i convert?
    (11:27:06) ±Game: brock 2.0 voted for Selena Gomez!
    (11:27:07) Selena Gomez: people
    (11:27:08) ±Game: A Random Llama voted for Selena Gomez!
    (11:27:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:27:08) Times Up! :
    (11:27:08) ±Jerry Nelson: 'Dear Selena Gomez, you have been found guilty of being Oscar the Grouch, and you are now sentenced to death by Electric Chair!'
    (11:27:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:27:08) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover.
    (11:27:08) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Garashi, Matt Ayala, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:27:08) ±Current Team: Dorothy, Elmo
    (11:27:08) ±Time: Night 3
    (11:27:08) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:27:09) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:27:10) brock 2.0: im sloww
    (11:27:14) brock 2.0: m lagging
    (11:27:21) ±Game: You have chosen to kill A Random Llama!
    (11:27:23) Veteran Padgett: such violent
    (11:27:24) ±Game: You are a Dorothy!
    (11:27:24) ±Game: Being inquisitive and possessing an active imagination, you share the same thoughts as your owner, Elmo, and wish to possess Sesame Street. Use /kill to drown your target in your fish bowl. As you never leave your fish bowl, you can't be watched (but can be stalked)!
    (11:27:24) ±Game: Your team is brock 2.0 (Elmo) and Matt Ayala (Dorothy).
    (11:27:27) TooLazy4Name: ^
    (11:27:28) ±Game: Your partner (brock 2.0) has decided to kill 'TooLazy4Name'!
    (11:27:33) brock 2.0: ^
    (11:27:36) A Random Llama: this reminds me of puppet war....
    (11:27:37) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:27:37) ±Role: Elmo
    (11:27:37) ±Ability: Can kill. Ignores Stalk. Sided with Elmo's world.
    (11:27:37) ±Players: 1-12 Players
    (11:27:37) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    (11:27:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:27:38) Times Up! :
    (11:27:38) ±Game: Your target (TooLazy4Name) was poisoned!
    (11:27:38) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of brock 2.0 (Elmo) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (11:27:38) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of TooLazy4Name (Abby) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (11:27:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:27:38) ±Current Roles: Bert, Count, Dorothy, Ernie, Grover.
    (11:27:38) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Garashi, Matt Ayala, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX.
    (11:27:38) ±Current Team: Dorothy
    (11:27:38) ±Time: Day 3
    (11:27:38) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (11:27:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:27:49) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:27:49) ±Role: Bert
    (11:27:49) ±Ability: Can watch once per night to see who the player visited. Sided with 123 Sesame Street.
    (11:27:49) ±Players: 2-12 Players
    (11:27:49) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    (11:27:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:27:58) ±Game: Is it a bird? Is it a plane? It's Super Grover! Super Grover picks up Garashi and ascends. He then proceeds to drop his target who gets impaled on a lamp post. However Garashi is still breathing. Grover flies at super high speeds down to his target and smashes into him on the ground, crushing his skull taking another victim of the battle.
    (11:27:58) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Garashi (Bert) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (11:27:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:28:01) Matt Ayala: :(
    (11:28:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:28:08) ±Current Roles: Count, Dorothy, Ernie, Grover.
    (11:28:08) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Matt Ayala, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX.
    (11:28:08) ±Current Team: Dorothy
    (11:28:08) ±Time: Day 3
    (11:28:08) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:28:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:28:12) Matt Ayala: Too much to read
    (11:28:17) Zidane FFIX: yyyeahh
    (11:28:21) A Random Llama: wow... much words
    (11:28:22) Matt Ayala: No one was revealed :x
    (11:28:28) Zidane FFIX: i dont like this theme i want it removed
    (11:28:35) Zidane FFIX: it was me btw, the daykill
    (11:28:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:28:38) Times Up! :
    (11:28:38) No one was voted off! :
    (11:28:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:28:38) ±Current Roles: Count, Dorothy, Ernie, Grover.
    (11:28:38) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Matt Ayala, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX.
    (11:28:38) ±Current Team: Dorothy
    (11:28:38) ±Time: Night 4
    (11:28:38) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:28:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:28:43) Matt Ayala: Well, that's up to QC. Your opinion is irrelevant :)
    (11:28:57) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Veteran Padgett!
    (11:28:58) Matt Ayala: If anything
    (11:29:01) Zidane FFIX: QC is rigged anywho
    (11:29:07) Veteran Padgett: well, you can tell them what you think, but yeah
    (11:29:08) A Random Llama: wow... that smile made him feel better :)
    (11:29:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:29:08) Times Up! :
    (11:29:08) ±Game: Your target (Veteran Padgett) was poisoned!
    (11:29:08) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Veteran Padgett (Ernie) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (11:29:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:29:08) ±Current Roles: Count, Dorothy, Grover.
    (11:29:08) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Matt Ayala, Zidane FFIX.
    (11:29:08) ±Current Team: Dorothy
    (11:29:08) ±Time: Day 4
    (11:29:08) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (11:29:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:29:10) Matt Ayala: You would at the very least need to justify reasoning
    (11:29:14) Matt Ayala: >QC rigged
    (11:29:34) Zidane FFIX: well who wants to win
    (11:29:36) Zidane FFIX: elmo or count
    (11:29:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:29:38) ±Current Roles: Count, Dorothy, Grover.
    (11:29:38) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Matt Ayala, Zidane FFIX.
    (11:29:38) ±Current Team: Dorothy
    (11:29:38) ±Time: Day 4
    (11:29:38) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:29:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:29:46) Matt Ayala: Well, Count wants to win.
    (11:29:52) Zidane FFIX: are you count?
    (11:29:53) Matt Ayala: But I do too.
    (11:29:57) A Random Llama: i think everyone wants to win!
    (11:30:03) Zidane FFIX: hmmm
    (11:30:04) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (11:30:04) ±Role: Count
    (11:30:04) ±Ability: Can Kill. Sided with Outcasts.
    (11:30:04) ±Players: 6-12 Players
    (11:30:04) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    (11:30:05) A Random Llama: but not everyone can....
    (11:30:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:30:08) Times Up! :
    (11:30:08) No one was voted off! :
    (11:30:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:30:08) ±Current Roles: Count, Dorothy, Grover.
    (11:30:08) ±Current Players: A Random Llama, Matt Ayala, Zidane FFIX.
    (11:30:08) ±Current Team: Dorothy
    (11:30:08) ±Time: Night 5
    (11:30:08) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:30:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:30:11) ±Game: You have chosen to kill A Random Llama!

    Priority List for theme ss:
    [1] Oscar the Grouch (Distract)
    [2] Abby (Distract)
    [3] Count (Kill)
    [4] Dorothy (Kill)
    [5] Oscar the Grouch (Kill)
    [6] Ernie (Stalk)
    [7] Bert (Watch)
    [7] Puppet (Watch)

    (11:30:13) Zidane FFIX: sdammit
    (11:30:19) Zidane FFIX: i want count to win
    (11:30:29) Zidane FFIX: im count jk
    (11:30:29) Matt Ayala: I want to win too :(
    (11:30:35) Zidane FFIX: js
    (11:30:35) A Random Llama: me too :)
    (11:30:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:30:38) Times Up! :
    (11:30:38) ±Game: 1 death, 2 deaths, 3 deaths. Who will be the next?' You found yourself slowly falling to the ground, dead, as the Count leaves with your number.
    (11:30:38) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Matt Ayala (Dorothy) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (11:30:38) ±Game: A Random Llama, the Outcasts have destroyed all the dolls in sight (and Dorothy). Only followers of the outcasts are now allowed on the street. The Streets are now filled with trash and everything is methodically numbered.
    (11:30:38) ±Game: The 123 Sesame Street (Zidane FFIX) lose!
    (11:30:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:30:39) Zidane FFIX: no im count
    (11:30:42) ShatteredDreams: Aha Dorothy

    (11:30:42) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:30:42) ±Game: Vinyl.Scratch started a game with theme Oracle!
    (11:30:42) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
    (11:30:42) ***************************************************************************************

    (11:30:42) ±Game: In the misty mountains of a distant land, a lonely village lies on a ridge overlooking the rest of the world. All is peaceful, but when the Emperor's Army threatens to conquer the town, it's up to the Oracles and Genies to fight back! (Use the Oracles' deaths and Genies' wishes to find and kill enemies!) Only to be played in nonpeak times, from 3 to 12 players. (NOTE: Oracles can receive and use unlimited wishes if they /see every night, but all other roles are limited to a maximum of two.)
    (11:30:42) ±Game: Vinyl.Scratch joined the game!
    (11:30:46) ±Game: Veteran Padgett joined the game!
    (11:30:47) ±Game: Matt Ayala joined the game!
    (11:30:50) ±Game: Garashi joined the game!
    (11:30:50) A Random Llama: count here! :)
    (11:30:52) Matt Ayala: (11:30:38) ±Game: 1 death, 2 deaths, 3 deaths. Who will be the next?' You found yourself slowly falling to the ground, dead, as the Count leaves with your number.
    (11:30:55) ±Game: Zuza joined the game!
    (11:30:55) ±Game: Selena Gomez joined the game!
    (11:30:55) brock 2.0: zelda dosent work?
    (11:30:56) Zidane FFIX: sesame street + guns = not cool
    (11:31:03) ±Game: brock 2.0 joined the game!
    (11:31:04) TooLazy4Name: i nerstoond nothin
    (11:31:06) TooLazy4Name: of that theme
    (11:31:07) ±Game: Zidane FFIX joined the game!
    (11:31:09) TooLazy4Name: at ALL

    (11:31:11) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (11:31:14) ±Game: ShatteredDreams joined the game!
    (11:31:19) Vinyl.Scratch: >Super Grover
    (11:31:21) Zuza: ss is very horrible
    (11:31:24) ShatteredDreams: village needs a buff
    (11:31:25) Selena Gomez: mean
    (11:31:28) ShatteredDreams: thsts all
    (11:31:28) brock 2.0: true
    (11:31:30) Zuza: and confusing
    (11:31:30) ShatteredDreams: And
    (11:31:37) brock 2.0: atleast needs insp
    (11:31:38) ShatteredDreams: people grow up. it's meant to be dark
    (11:31:40) Vinyl.Scratch: Needs to be a Sonic the Hedgehog theme
    (11:31:40) ±Game: TooLazy4Name joined the game!
    (11:31:41) Vinyl.Scratch: imo
    (11:31:41) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:31:41) Times Up! :
    (11:31:41) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (11:31:41) ±Game: You are a Oracle!
    (11:31:41) ±Game: With your array of crystal balls and enchanted scrolls, you can easily see someone's aura at night (just type: /see [player]). If you die, their true identity will be revealed to everyone. Use /see every night to potentially get Genies' wishes every day. Use your mystical powers to lead the village to victory!
    (11:31:41) ±Current Roles: Geeny, General, Genie, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:31:41) ±Current Players: Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, ShatteredDreams, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Vinyl.Scratch, Zidane FFIX, Zuza, brock 2.0.
    (11:31:41) ±Current Team: Geeny, Genie, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle
    (11:31:41) ±Time: Night 1
    (11:31:41) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (11:31:41) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:31:43) brock 2.0: no
    (11:31:52) Zidane FFIX: there used to be one Vinyl.Scratch
    (11:31:55) Vinyl.Scratch: What
    (11:31:59) Vinyl.Scratch: why not anymore?
    (11:32:01) Zidane FFIX: blame QC
    (11:32:05) ±Game: You have chosen to see Zuza!
    (11:32:08) Zidane FFIX: they didnt think it was 'cool' enough
    (11:32:16) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:16) Times Up! :
    (11:32:16) ±Game: When you die, Zuza's role will be revealed to everyone!
    (11:32:16) ±Prophet: And Oracle Vinyl.Scratch was no more!
    (11:32:16) *** With their dying breath, the Oracle whispers: 'Garashi is the Oracle!'
    (11:32:16) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:16) ±Current Roles: Geeny, General, Genie, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:32:16) ±Current Players: Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, ShatteredDreams, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, Zuza, brock 2.0.
    (11:32:16) ±Current Team: Geeny, Genie, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle
    (11:32:16) ±Time: Day 1
    (11:32:16) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (11:32:16) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:17) Selena Gomez: blame qc for everything
    (11:32:20) brock 2.0: dont say who ur seeing
    (11:32:21) Zidane FFIX: yes!
    (11:32:25) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:25) Someone whispers: 'I wish ShatteredDreams would die...' Dreams do come true~
    (11:32:25) ±Game: 'Wow, thanks for the wish, Genie!' What good manners Garashi has!
    (11:32:26) ±Prophet: And General ShatteredDreams was no more!
    (11:32:26) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:31) brock 2.0: pro!!!
    (11:32:31) Selena Gomez: lol
    (11:32:32) Matt Ayala: Don't blame QC for everything. Some QC that ruled on the decision aren't even here anymore.
    (11:32:40) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:40) Someone whispers: 'I wish Zuza would die...' Dreams do come true~
    (11:32:40) ±Game: 'Wow, thanks for the wish, Genie!' What good manners Selena Gomez has!
    (11:32:40) ±Prophet: And Genie Zuza was no more!
    (11:32:40) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:46) Selena Gomez: ;~:
    (11:32:50) brock 2.0: noooooo
    (11:32:51) Matt Ayala: very good manners Garashi and Selena :)
    (11:32:51) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:51) ±Current Roles: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:32:51) ±Current Players: Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:32:51) ±Current Team: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle
    (11:32:51) ±Time: Day 1
    (11:32:51) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:32:51) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:32:56) brock 2.0: noooooooooooo
    (11:33:02) Zidane FFIX: selena = house solidor?
    (11:33:08) brock 2.0: y did genie have to die!!!?
    (11:33:09) TooLazy4Name: Veteran Padgett
    (11:33:11) TooLazy4Name: CLAIM
    (11:33:15) Selena Gomez: HURY
    (11:33:17) Veteran Padgett: no
    (11:33:20) TooLazy4Name: ok
    (11:33:21) brock 2.0: claim!!!
    (11:33:21) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:33:21) Times Up! :
    (11:33:21) No one was voted off! :
    (11:33:21) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:33:21) ±Current Roles: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:33:21) ±Current Players: Garashi, Matt Ayala, Selena Gomez, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:33:21) ±Current Team: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle
    (11:33:21) ±Time: Night 2
    (11:33:21) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (11:33:21) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:33:25) Zidane FFIX: 'no'
    (11:33:25) Selena Gomez: ok Veteran Padgett is oracle
    (11:33:26) TooLazy4Name: ./vote Matt Ayala
    (11:33:31) Zidane FFIX: that means 'soldier' or 'genie'
    (11:33:35) Zidane FFIX: genie grant me wish?
    (11:33:43) Selena Gomez: .grant Veteran Padgett
    (11:33:44) TooLazy4Name: KILL ME
    (11:33:45) TooLazy4Name: PLS
    (11:33:50) brock 2.0: genie grant garashi hes clean
    (11:33:50) Matt Ayala: How is vet oracle? No one's confirmed.
    (11:33:51) Zidane FFIX: too late
    (11:33:56) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:33:56) Times Up! :
    (11:33:56) ±Game: You were killed during the night!
    (11:33:56) ±Prophet: And Oracle Matt Ayala was no more!
    (11:33:56) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:33:56) ±Current Roles: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:33:56) ±Current Players: Garashi, Selena Gomez, TooLazy4Name, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:33:56) ±Time: Day 2
    (11:33:56) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (11:33:56) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:33:57) TooLazy4Name: i dare yaa
    (11:33:59) brock 2.0: im oracle
    (11:34:02) Veteran Padgett: strong see
    (11:34:04) Selena Gomez: didnt see
    (11:34:07) Zidane FFIX: genie didnt grant me a wish :c
    (11:34:12) brock 2.0: go garashi!!
    (11:34:13) Zidane FFIX: i feel so.. left out!
    (11:34:17) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:34:17) Someone whispers: 'I wish TooLazy4Name would die...' Dreams do come true~
    (11:34:17) ±Game: 'Wow, thanks for the wish, Genie!' What good manners Selena Gomez has!
    (11:34:17) ±Prophet: And Oracle TooLazy4Name was no more!
    (11:34:17) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:34:17) Garashi: I don't have a wish
    (11:34:22) Veteran Padgett: NO
    (11:34:23) Selena Gomez: DIdnt see again
    (11:34:24) Veteran Padgett: SEES
    (11:34:29) brock 2.0: oh what?
    (11:34:30) Zidane FFIX: selena gomez obv soldier
    (11:34:31) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:34:31) ±Current Roles: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:34:31) ±Current Players: Garashi, Selena Gomez, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:34:31) ±Time: Day 2
    (11:34:31) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:34:31) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:34:33) Zidane FFIX: she killed genie
    (11:34:57) brock 2.0: ok listen genie grant garashi cause hes CLEAN!!!
    (11:34:58) Zidane FFIX: or not
    (11:35:01) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:35:01) Times Up! :
    (11:35:01) No one was voted off! :
    (11:35:01) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:35:01) ±Current Roles: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:35:01) ±Current Players: Garashi, Selena Gomez, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:35:01) ±Time: Night 3
    (11:35:02) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (11:35:02) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:35:10) brock 2.0: no one voted?
    (11:35:12) Garashi: o3o I ran a vote too.
    (11:35:13) Zidane FFIX: can i has wish genplz
    (11:35:15) Garashi: Last second
    (11:35:16) brock 2.0: wow
    (11:35:17) Selena Gomez: yeah Zidane FFIX you should grant garashi
    (11:35:23) brock 2.0: grant garashi
    (11:35:29) Zidane FFIX: um
    (11:35:32) brock 2.0: ?
    (11:35:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:35:36) Times Up! :
    (11:35:36) ±Prophet: And Oracle Garashi was no more!
    (11:35:36) *** With their dying breath, the Oracle whispers: 'Zidane FFIX is the Soldier!'
    (11:35:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:35:36) ±Current Roles: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:35:36) ±Current Players: Selena Gomez, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:35:36) ±Time: Day 3
    (11:35:37) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (11:35:37) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:35:37) brock 2.0: problem?
    (11:35:40) Zidane FFIX: poo
    (11:35:43) Veteran Padgett: kill him
    (11:35:45) brock 2.0: oh grat
    (11:35:48) Selena Gomez: i was geeny ;~;
    (11:35:48) Veteran Padgett: he is soldier
    (11:35:48) brock 2.0: great
    (11:35:51) brock 2.0: gg
    (11:35:52) Zidane FFIX: gg
    (11:36:03) Veteran Padgett: Garashi just kill him
    (11:36:07) Selena Gomez: garashi ded
    (11:36:08) Zidane FFIX: i kileld garashi
    (11:36:09) Selena Gomez: RIP
    (11:36:11) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:36:11) ±Current Roles: Geeny, Genie, Oracle, Soldier.
    (11:36:11) ±Current Players: Selena Gomez, Veteran Padgett, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (11:36:11) ±Time: Day 3
    (11:36:11) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (11:36:12) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:36:12) ±Game: brock 2.0 voted for Zidane FFIX!
    (11:36:19) Zidane FFIX: surprise? im geeny?
    (11:36:19) brock 2.0: imma rander!!!!
    (11:36:23) ±Game: Veteran Padgett voted for Zidane FFIX!
    (11:36:29) brock 2.0: lol nice try
    (11:36:34) ±Game: Zidane FFIX voted for brock 2.0!
    (11:36:37) ±Game: Selena Gomez voted for brock 2.0!
    (11:36:37) ***************************************************************************************
    (11:36:37) Times Up! :
    (11:36:37) ±Prophet: Soldier Zidane FFIX was banished from the village!
    (11:36:37) ±Game: The Village (Veteran Padgett, Selena Gomez and brock 2.0) wins!
    (11:36:38) ***************************************************************************************
    [/HIDE]
    I had to quote the Oracle game because the conversation persisted throughout both games.

    Also, Elmo isn't on /priority for his Kill action. :P
     
  21. Magnamon

    Magnamon Radiance of Miracles

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    Approve [3]

    I've only gotten to play SS a few times so far, but I like it. It is challenging for the village to win yet not impossible. In my opinion the village's win ratio immensely depends on player judgment and ability to play with a degree of intelligence as well as thought out moves and study. Village doesn't exactly win very often, but for the few games I've played the main reason village lost was because of a severe lack of common sense. I'll attribute that partially to lack of knowledge of how to play the theme, a problem which time may rectify. I've noticed a lot of positive reception to Sesame Street by both players and MAs. This theme has very humorous messages and is relatively balanced, player error put aside. Overall, I think this theme is quite good. I approve.

    Log of my most recent game of SS: http://pastebin.com/V7V6XqZx


    Oh, before I forget, I found a slight spelling mistake. "Known as the 'Little Red Menace' by the citizens of Sesame Street, Elmo believe that the whole world should avoid pronouns and talk using third person." There is a missing 's' there.
     
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    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Why did it say "Your target (Matt Ayala) was poisoned!"

    It was a kill action, no? :x
     
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    Which role?
    It was likely an insta-kill poison command i.e. a poison with a negative turn count.
     
  25. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    I'm getting less busy now, but I'll reserve my judgment for until I play the theme myself. On paper it looks good, but as we all know paper =/= practice.
     
  26. Solace

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    Ok, I've reserved my judgement on this until the numbers have come in.

    Looking at the 6-8 spawn, the Count and Oscar have won half of the games played with the village taking all of the wins in six player games and Elmo only picking up one win.
    Anywho, I think switching Abby and CM would work to balance it out a bit more. I think it's pretty easy to clean CM in 6 player games so it's not likely that the village will rand him and the Mafia probably won't either. Moving him further up means there will be an extra person Bert/Ernie has to clean before they can safely rand.
    Abby being in at 6 instead follows the same logic of the earlier spawns. She might hit one of the Mafia or she might hit Bert/Ernie. There's more of that double-edged sword feel with that.
    Oscar throw's a wrench into the village's wheel when he spawns. He can shut Bert/Ernie down and make connecting nigh impossible in a theme where connecting is already difficult. He is likely the culprit for the Count's strength in this spawn. He serves as a perfect stalk/watch shield for the Count or Dorothy/Elmo if they visit the same person.

    The only other spawn that we have enough data for atm is 11. Here we see the Outcasts with a slight upper hand again. Perhaps give Grover a way of connecting? His DK can will wreck whatever side he uses it on and it's awfully sucky when it happens to be his own team.

    tl;dr:
    The village depends on Bert/Ernie a lot in every spawn and, with their biggest roles (Grover and BB) being disconnected the village can easily wreck itself. Dorothy and Elmo just seem to get caught in the crossfire once the game gets larger so they may need something to help them out as well.

    tl;dr (2):
    The learning curve is steep and the Outcasts have the most straightforward roles.
     
  27. Roild

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    I found the learning curve to be quick. Roles are simple, but there are possible extra messages and complex ideas is all. Village isn't about depending on anyone, but bert/ernie are helpful to them. The theme itself is supposed to be simple in design, which it is. Grover is also supposed to be equally helpful, but with a chance to mess up and hurt village (people like to rand, that isn't the theme's fault. Same applies to Abby, which is why 3 uses only (meant to make people wait/think)).


    6-8p is pretty tough. 7p in particular. 4v1v2 and 5v1v1 are the only options, but they tend to benefit one side throughout. I'll go back to ernie/bert + dorothy/elmo and count (who has prio). then two other village roles who benefit, abby and Cookie. Cookie being named at the very least.

    One last thing is, should village always have someone who is capable of winning on their own or should they work together / communicate to win? I choose the latter until dangers rise enough around 9p.
     
  28. Solace

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    Does the village ever have a role that can win alone? Villagers always have to work together.
    The issue is that Bert/Ernie are the only way to connect the villagers with the exception of BB jumping out and revealing himself with his vote or someone just straight up claiming which is suicide without a BG.

    While the roles are simple, connecting by stalk/watch, votes, and distracts is not as simple for new players. No, we don't have to hold peoples' hands but if the village is going to have to work together in such a way, they should be able to do it without being shut down so easily.
     
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    That is how twin traps plays. Lots of villagers without a lot of info. Fair trade-off to get more power at the cost of more danger. Vanilla on crack, but with enough things for it be more than just twin traps.
     
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    Well, I feel like this could work well enough for RTM and forum Mafia where everyone has more time to gather info and figure out what is going on but I don't see it working in phases lasting less than a minute. I see the Outcasts (the roles that just kill and distract at will) winning most frequently and it supports that idea. When the uninformed majority can't become informed quickly enough, they become ducks waiting to be shot.

    For me, this is gonna be a Decline[1] for now.
     
  31. Roild

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    *shrugs* Being too mafia is fine for me. Extended night/day though by 5 seconds each since that is decent. Just finished editing spawn, slightly separated things. Last month, oscar and grouch were UP because of their position in the spawn. Now they seem stronger than others, but not exactly so. Spawn fix should solve most things. second comes in at 9p.

    Still need more data to see if more changes are needed.


    (18:53:32) 1: Outcasts. Times Won: 9. Average Players per win: 9.11
    (18:53:32) 2: 123 Sesame Street. Times Won: 9. Average Players per win: 7.33
    (18:53:32) 3: Elmo's World. Times Won: 6. Average Players per win: 7

    village strong at 4v1v1(6), capable of winning at most amounts though. Data supports balance atm, but still needs more data. close to 1/3rd each out of 24 games.
     
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  32. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    If you intend to make it like Twin Traps, then keep it simple. Reading the logs, I think a lot of the theme concept/roles are thrown off by the multiple distracts and nifty features. It looks very complex, and for a nonpeak that isn't exactly good. How distraction also overrides stalk/watch/Elmo and Dorothy's immunities to each makes me feel as if that whole aspect of the theme doesn't really even matter anymore and just causes confusion.

    I really can't seem to come to a decision on this. To the other QC, I'd like to request a Retest [1] to see how it works with more people exposed to it (or rather, how big of an effect on the game does the learning curve have as opposed to the theme itself). Personally, I remember it taking quite a while for people to understand Oracle, but then again that was only 4 different roles at maximum.
     
  33. Roild

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    Everyone already accepted/declined and it's still being tested on the server. Try and play it during nonpeak times and stuff if you need more testing time.

    I didn't intend to make it like Twin Traps though, I used it as a shooting off point. Making town Watcher (with Stalker) was first point, then chose a flavor after that.

    People figured out stuff really fast. Oracle took a while because you had that third faction at first, which killed a bunch of roles at once and made the theme odd. Once that was removed, it was all simple. During the third game played, I saw people teaching others how to play :o. The roles are all simple, they just require a lot of coding to do. Killers have a line of 'poison' when they kill, but that's it (and that hasn't really hurt them.) Essentially, idk why people are talking about the learning curve when I've seen people understand how to play after a game. No BG, don't randkill, get the red menace.

    There's only two distracts which can't happen at all times. If grouch's distract form is the problem, I could limit that to 1-2, although 1-3 is about the most probable number of uses per game. Limiting it is fine though, I wouldn't mind doing that.
     
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    Log and stuff.

    (19:01:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:01:35) Times Up! :
    (19:01:35) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (19:01:35) ±Game: You are a Oscar the Grouch!
    (19:01:35) ±Game: You are the compulsive green hoarder who lives in a trash can. Unhappy with the differences within Sesame Street, you have formed an aliance with the Count who shares the same views with you. You can /distract one player per night to prevent them from doing anything using your smelly trash. Once the Count dies, you will be able to /kill!
    (19:01:35) ±Game: Your team is Big Bird (Oscar the Grouch) and Not Windblown (Count).
    (19:01:35) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Big Bird, Cookie Monster, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Oscar the Grouch, Zoe.
    (19:01:35) ±Current Players: Big Bird, GooeyGoodra, Karp Karpity, Kenneth P., Mega Magnamon, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown, Selena Gomez, Turtwig, Water, ajhockeystar.
    (19:01:35) ±Current Team: Count, Oscar the Grouch
    (19:01:35) ±Time: Night 1
    (19:01:35) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (19:01:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:01:36) Selena Gomez: :o
    (19:01:37) Turtwig: Big Bird is Roild maybe I think
    (19:01:38) ajhockeystar: Hai everyone
    (19:01:45) ±Game: Your partner (Not Windblown) has decided to kill 'Turtwig'!
    (19:01:46) Big Bird: I am Big Bird.
    (19:01:49) Big Bird: [Team] ok
    (19:01:53) Turtwig: Does anyone claim?
    (19:01:53) ±Game: You have chosen to distract Mega Magnamon!
    (19:01:54) Selena Gomez: I am
    (19:01:55) Turtwig: This set up is still weird
    (19:01:58) ajhockeystar: Are you eh?
    (19:01:58) Big Bird: I am Big Bird, that is all.
    (19:01:58) Mega Magnamon: no Turtwig
    (19:02:00) Water: who is Big Bird
    (19:02:04) Big Bird: <-
    (19:02:05) GooeyGoodra: Wat
    (19:02:05) Mega Magnamon: Big Bird is Big Bird
    (19:02:05) Selena Gomez: who is water?
    (19:02:06) Turtwig: Big Bird is Big Bird obv
    (19:02:07) Big Bird: gg
    (19:02:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:02:10) Times Up! :
    (19:02:10) ±Game: Your target (Mega Magnamon) has been converted and is now a Puppet!
    (19:02:10) ±Game: Your target (Turtwig) was poisoned!
    (19:02:10) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Turtwig (Big Bird) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (19:02:10) ±Game: Death was swift and painless. Elmo has claimed yet another life.
    (19:02:10) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Big Bird (Oscar the Grouch) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (19:02:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:02:10) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Cookie Monster, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Zoe.
    (19:02:10) ±Current Players: GooeyGoodra, Karp Karpity, Kenneth P., Mega Magnamon, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown, Selena Gomez, Water, ajhockeystar.
    (19:02:10) ±Time: Day 1
    (19:02:10) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:02:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:02:14) Zerxes left the channel.
    (19:02:14) Selena Gomez: rip
    (19:02:18) Selena Gomez: Big Bird
    (19:02:19) ±Game: The game is in progress. Please type /join to join the next mafia game.
    (19:02:20) Mega Magnamon: well, oscar the grouch was on me and died
    (19:02:22) Mega Magnamon: I must be kefka
    (19:02:23) Karp Karpity: mixed night
    (19:02:23) Water: nooooo
    (19:02:23) +ClientBot: You changed your name to Roild
    (19:02:24) Big Bird changed names and is now known as Roild.
    (19:02:26) Roild: .
    (19:02:27) Kenneth P.: welp
    (19:02:29) Selena Gomez: Grover dont go pls
    (19:02:31) Mega Magnamon: there goes our kuja mayor
    (19:02:34) Kenneth P.: Sorry Politician Big Bird
    (19:02:41) Kenneth P.: R.I.P.M.
    (19:02:45) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:02:45) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Cookie Monster, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Zoe.
    (19:02:45) ±Current Players: GooeyGoodra, Karp Karpity, Kenneth P., Mega Magnamon, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown, Selena Gomez, Water, ajhockeystar.
    (19:02:45) ±Time: Day 1
    (19:02:45) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:02:45) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:02:52) Kenneth P.: Rest In Power Moves
    (19:02:56) Kenneth P.: I'll rand k?
    (19:02:58) ajhockeystar: So how does this theme work lol
    (19:03:00) Mega Magnamon: I'd rand but if I hit cookie monster I'm screwed
    (19:03:00) Karp Karpity: idk
    (19:03:02) ajhockeystar: Never played it
    (19:03:02) Selena Gomez: so water are you the MAIFA?
    (19:03:03) Ninja Kirby: sure
    (19:03:06) ±Game: Kenneth P. voted for Water!
    (19:03:07) Water: No I am not the MAFIA
    (19:03:08) ±Dratini: ZNEREXZ was muted by R​aducan for 30 minutes! [Reason: flood / spam] [Channel: Tournaments]
    (19:03:09) Not Windblown: WATER USCUM?
    (19:03:11) ±Game: Water voted for Kenneth P.!
    (19:03:15) HellobyexD joined the channel.
    (19:03:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:03:19) Times Up! :
    (19:03:19) No one was voted off! :
    (19:03:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:03:19) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Cookie Monster, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover, Zoe.
    (19:03:19) ±Current Players: GooeyGoodra, Karp Karpity, Kenneth P., Mega Magnamon, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown, Selena Gomez, Water, ajhockeystar.
    (19:03:19) ±Time: Night 2
    (19:03:19) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (19:03:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:03:19) Selena Gomez: inb5
    (19:03:31) ajhockeystar: ?kill Water
    (19:03:36) Selena Gomez: Count on elmo and dorothy on count
    (19:03:36) GooeyGoodra: lawl
    (19:03:37) ajhockeystar: ...
    (19:03:41) Selena Gomez: Grover on dorothy
    (19:03:41) Selena Gomez: gg
    (19:03:45) Water: I don't understand
    (19:03:47) Water: what is going on
    (19:03:53) Selena Gomez: .stalk water
    (19:03:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:03:54) Times Up! :
    (19:03:54) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Selena Gomez (Zoe) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (19:03:54) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of GooeyGoodra (Abby) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (19:03:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:03:54) ±Current Roles: Bert, Cookie Monster, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover.
    (19:03:54) ±Current Players: Karp Karpity, Kenneth P., Mega Magnamon, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown, Water, ajhockeystar.
    (19:03:54) ±Time: Day 2
    (19:03:54) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:03:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:04:01) Karp Karpity: bad night
    (19:04:07) ajhockeystar: Oh we can't fake team talk messages anymore :(
    (19:04:10) Not Windblown: This is the most depressing theme of all time
    (19:04:11) Kenneth P.: AFK
    (19:04:19) Kenneth P.: slay me
    (19:04:26) Roild: Why afk, Kenneth P.
    (19:04:29) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:04:29) ±Current Roles: Bert, Cookie Monster, Count, Dorothy, Elmo, Ernie, Grover.
    (19:04:29) ±Current Players: Karp Karpity, Kenneth P., Mega Magnamon, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown, Water, ajhockeystar.
    (19:04:29) ±Time: Day 2
    (19:04:29) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:04:29) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:04:30) Key to Progression left the channel.
    (19:04:36) ±Slay: Kenneth P. will be sla​in by Athena Cykes after the phase ends!
    (19:04:41) ±Game: Mega Magnamon voted for ajhockeystar!
    (19:04:44) Athena Cykes: Don't join next game.
    (19:04:46) ±Game: ajhockeystar voted for Mega Magnamon!
    (19:04:49) ±Game: Not Windblown voted for ajhockeystar!
    (19:04:52) ±Game: Ninja Kirby voted for ajhockeystar!
    (19:04:53) ajhockeystar: why the rand
    (19:04:58) Mega Magnamon: cause why not
    (19:04:59) ajhockeystar: Whatever
    (19:05:00) Mega Magnamon: :o
    (19:05:00) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:05:00) Times Up! :
    (19:05:00) ±Jerry Nelson: 'Dear ajhockeystar, you have been found guilty of being Dorothy, and you are now sentenced to death by Electric Chair!'
    (19:05:00) ±Slay: Kenneth P. (Elmo) was sla​in by A​thena Cykes!
    (19:05:00) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:05:00) ±Current Roles: Bert, Cookie Monster, Count, Ernie, Grover.
    (19:05:00) ±Current Players: Karp Karpity, Mega Magnamon, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown, Water.
    (19:05:00) ±Time: Night 3
    (19:05:00) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (19:05:00) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:05:04) Not Windblown: Were not gonna get anywhere without rands
    (19:05:07) Selena Gomez changed names and is now known as Oprah Winfrey.
    (19:05:08) Karp Karpity: epic
    (19:05:13) Ninja Kirby: nice
    (19:05:28) Not Windblown: It appears weve gotten somewhere
    (19:05:32) Karp Karpity: yeah
    (19:05:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:05:35) Times Up! :
    (19:05:35) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Mega Magnamon (Ernie) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (19:05:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:05:35) ±Current Roles: Bert, Cookie Monster, Count, Grover.
    (19:05:35) ±Current Players: Karp Karpity, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown, Water.
    (19:05:35) ±Time: Day 3
    (19:05:35) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:05:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:05:46) Ninja Kirby: nv@4..
    (19:05:47) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:05:47) ±Game: Is it a bird? Is it a plane? It's Super Grover! Super Grover picks up Water and ascends. He then proceeds to drop his target who gets impaled on a lamp post. However Water is still breathing. Grover flies at super high speeds down to his target and smashes into him on the ground, crushing his skull. Water becomes yet another victim of the battle.
    (19:05:47) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Water (Bert) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (19:05:47) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:06:00) Ninja Kirby: ...
    (19:06:02) Karp Karpity: damn
    (19:06:02) GooeyGoodra left the channel.
    (19:06:03) Ninja Kirby: we can vote at 3
    (19:06:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:06:10) ±Current Roles: Cookie Monster, Count, Grover.
    (19:06:10) ±Current Players: Karp Karpity, Ninja Kirby, Not Windblown.
    (19:06:10) ±Time: Day 3
    (19:06:10) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:06:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:06:10) Karp Karpity: i fail
    (19:06:14) Karp Karpity: sorry Water
    (19:06:16) ±Game: Ninja Kirby voted for Not Windblown!
    (19:06:22) Ninja Kirby: I'm cookie monster..
    (19:06:23) Not Windblown: Grover here
    (19:06:29) ±Game: Not Windblown voted for Ninja Kirby!
    (19:06:29) ±Game: Karp Karpity voted for Not Windblown!
    (19:06:30) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:06:30) Times Up! :
    (19:06:30) ±Jerry Nelson: 'Dear Not Windblown, you have been found guilty of being Count, and you are now sentenced to death by Electric Chair!'
    (19:06:30) ±Game: Nothing has changed over the past few years. Sesame Street remains an upbeat place to live for its residents. We have Ninja Kirby and Karp Karpity to thank.
    (19:06:30) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:06:32) Oprah Winfrey: RIP

    (19:06:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:06:35) ±Game: Not Windblown started a voting for next game's theme! You have 20 seconds to vote with /vote or /votetheme!
    (19:06:35) ±Game: Choose from these themes: Default, DN, Zelda, Eclipse, Hunter, Fantasy !
    (19:06:35) ***************************************************************************************

    (19:06:35) ±Game: Not Windblown voted for DN!
    (19:06:36) ajhockeystar: Dat luck
    (19:06:38) Ninja Kirby: ty Karp Karpity
    (19:06:38) Zabuza_Momochi: lol
    (19:06:42) Oprah Winfrey: Also does water have a skull?
    (19:06:43) ±Game: Mega Magnamon voted for Fantasy!
    (19:06:44) ±Game: Evildingorobot voted for DN!
    (19:06:45) Zabuza_Momochi: ima stay away forbit lol
    (19:06:46) Mega Magnamon: fantasy>dn
    (19:06:47) ±Game: Ninja Kirby voted for Fantasy!
    (19:06:49) ±Game: Oprah Winfrey voted for DN!
    (19:06:51) Roild: Not anymore, Oprah Winfrey.
    (19:06:54) Water: :(

    (19:06:55) ±Game: Theme DN won with 3 votes!
    (19:06:55) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!

    (19:06:55) ±Game: Death Note! Task Force is the good side, and everyone else is bad! UPDATE: READ THE /changelog!!!. Contact Solace with comments, complaints, and suggestions. Theme originally written by Not L.
    (19:06:55) ±Game: Not Windblown, Evildingorobot, Oprah Winfrey joined the game!
    (19:06:58) Oprah Winfrey: RIP
    (19:06:59) ±Game: Karp Karpity joined the game!
    (19:06:59) ±Game: Mega Magnamon joined the game!
    (19:07:00) ±Game: Ninja Kirby joined the game!

    (19:07:05) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (19:07:11) *** Mega Magnamon gives Water a new skull straight from the grim reaper

    and thingsss....
     
  35. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    So basically, this theme is a lot of power roles versus a lot of other power roles.

    Big Bird is practically a village instant-lyncher. Grover has a daykill. Count has a fast nightkill, Elmo/Dorothy have theirs. Abby can distract. Oscar also has a distract, but converts to a slow distraction-immune killer when Count dies. Bert and Ernie are Stalker and Watcher, though Ernie is a stalker and Bert is a watcher which I just checked up on because it didn't make sense to me with the way their names are typically said, but that's just a minor annoyance of mine. Rosita and Zoe are villagers, but they're differently named and they're only 1 of each of them at maximum so it makes it much harder for scum to fakeclaim.

    And that's big. When you only have 1 of each role, even in a 12 player max game, you have the following problems:

    - The learning curve will always be steep. Not only will new players be distracted the whole game either asking about what's going on or trying to read all the /roles, but even experienced players (or people who are reading the logs :P) can still easily be confused as to the setup.
    - Again, Bert and Ernie as a pair make it hard to distinguish between their very similar functions. Same with Elmo and Dorothy, and in hindsight I don't think a Twin Traps-like setup would be good for server mafia, where confusion runs rampant and there's not enough time to explain things in detail. It's very easy to get the roles in each pair mixed up, and though the answer may be "then learn them" or "people will learn", I don't find that to be a sufficient enough answer in this case. Additionally, having so many different powers practically nullify the effects of each.
    - The biggest problem stemming specifically from having only one of each role is that, again, no fakeclaims are possible. Not only can mafia not claim Villager, but neither can PRs, lest either risk an unknowing Rosita or Zoe immediately calling them out on it. Should anyone have the courage to encourage a massclaim and have people go along with it, mafia's screwed.

    Also, distinction between teams and roles flavorwise is ambiguous. I've personally confused Abby and Dorothy multiple times, and since most players don't have a gist on the flavor, I can see why some people would assume Elmo and Big Bird were sided. Both "good" main characters in the show, right?

    I feel that even for a nonpeak theme, there's simply just too much going on here for people to follow and learn, and the extra-long messages don't help with that, either.

    Decline [2]

    The first change I'd suggest making would be to somehow simplify the theme. Closed setup, maybe? That makes it complicated, but might allow mafia to more easily fakeclaim. Frankly, I'm not sure how best to go forth with this.

    EDIT: Forgot Cookie Monster, who kills the first voter. That's a chance of 4, but likely 3 kills in the first cycle, bar the chance that PLs will hit a killer, and not including Big Bird possibly deciding to go rambo in the voting phase. But even then, there's just so much power going around, and I don't think having more complicated power roles to counter other complicated power roles is worth having and figuring out in a theme. Normally I like gimmicks and fresh powers/coding, but there's just too much of it here.
     
  36. Solace

    Solace Member

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    I have poked Fuzzy to come and break this deadlock.
     
  37. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Pro Approve Arguments:
    1. Village has a lot of fresh roles with unique tools, but has to be careful because they are detrimental to their own team too.
    2. Village has to work for a win, instead of almost being handed the win.
    3. Lack of a BG brings new strategy to the table not really seen in many other themes
    4. Pairs are required in the village to achieve various things (cleaning, phase control, etc.)
    5. Theme seems balanced enough between Village and Mafia




    Pro Decline Arguments:
    1. Phases too short to effectively communicate and organize
    2. Steep learning curve to figure out what roles do what and how they interact with each other. Pairs can easily be mixed up
    3. Crammed too full of power roles that they start to conflict with each other
    4. Mafia can't fake claim village due to named villagers
    5. Flavor doesn't entirely match alignment leading to a chance for more confusion
    6. Too much going on could leave up to a third of the game dead before night 2 starts




    At this point, I'd like everyone to re-review the theme with the statements above in mind. If you are Pro-Approve, then refute the points of Pro-Decline, and vice versa. Offer up suggestions on how to address each problem and go on from there. If you have no suggestion or opinion on a particular point, please point that out to indicate you have addressed that point. In order for your re-review to be valid, you must address every point. If you address multiple points at once, please indicate. They are conveniently numbered to make referring easier.


    All re-reviews should be done before Friday, January 17th in order to keep the wheels turning. In case of another deadlock, Beast will cast the deciding vote, taking all reviews and re-reviews into account.
     
  38. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    1. 35 seconds imo would be fine for both phases. It's only tracker/watcher/PL on village which have night actions.

    2. I really do think the learning curve would not be too difficult considering it's a nonpeak. Though I would be fine with taking out one PR (probably Cookie Monster).

    Point 3 kind of ties in what I said above.

    4. I believe the villagers don't know what names they are until they die (You are a Muppet!) or w/e they get.

    5. Flavor isn't exactly correct to Sesame Street but a quick glance at /sides and Current Team would help.

    6. Too much going on could be fixed by just removing a PR, as I said. If you just turned Cookie Monster's slot into a simple villager it would make the theme simpler. (besides without any centralize information role I feel a votebomb in this theme would be hazardous to a village that may have to rely on rands a lot).
     
  39. Roild

    Roild Member

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    Oh, I should explain stuff? Okay, I'll explain stuff.

    Cookie Monster is already a glorified villager who is named to buff village. His ability is rather passive and limits wild big bird rands. if he dies, it is like a villager dying. The villagers aren't named, they only know themselves to be puppet. Because the theme only goes to 12 people, I had to figure out the best numbers and roles to allow for the best server antics - which has been working so far. I'll review roles.


    8 named roles.

    Stalker / Watcher - At least one appears at all time. The info they provide won't always be useful, if they provide any info at all. It can prove different things though. If only one target after watch, target dies, 100% bad. Stalker's isn't 100% bad, but highly incriminating. Any people stalker/watcher see visit and no death means they are most likely clean. Watch might pick up on Grouch v1's distract though, so some care and timing is required.

    Pretty Lady - 3x shot. Fairly dangerous to both mafia and own allies, some care is needed when using. Double edged.

    Mayor - Fairly strong mayor. He holds a lot of votes most of the time, but can be outvoted as village loses members. Strong village role, but weak to average kills.

    One-shot day vig - One kill. Fairly wild like Abby's distract, but can also do more if it connects. Strong village role, but only one chance/time.

    Supersaint - Cookie Monster's ability won't activate much. It can scare town/maf from randing, but he is also a named villager. Being named is a buff.

    Rosita/Zoe(villagers)- max of two, don't know which one they are (unless there's only one. Then fairly obvious.)


    watch ignore, stalk ignore. Come in earlier together than the other mafia.

    fast kill, distract/slow kill. Don't come in together until a bit later, the faster kill is around first. Gonna remove pl ignore on the slow kill.

    I had it at 38/32 before, but I think Marill changed it to 35/35. Point being that the time has been extended some to allow for talking stuff for a while. It really doesn't require a week to explain what you found out or to think about what to do. This is server ready.

    Town has three night actions, one day, two vote. Of those, one of each night, day, vote is limited (Cookie can't be lynched twice.)
    One mafia has a shared kill and two passive effects. The other mafia has a kill and a distract, but are weaker if first killer die. Spawn also splits them up for a while.

    For flavor, I had to split it up in a way that fit. It could've easily been big bird and truffulufagus (or however spelled) as mafia, but the theme is nonPeak and I fit it to something that fit. oscar/grouch are the outsiders and Elmo is frequently parodied to be some psycho killer. It just fits.

    But yeah, /sides isn't a long read. Neither is /roles, which also helps in whatever learning curve people are saying. I've yet to see anyone consecutively confused for more than two games, which is because the theme is new.


    The spawn switches around a little because of the difficulty of keeping balance. I chose accommodation of groups of balanced individuals (Village would be weaker without a named role.) rather than making the game into a vanilla copy, so I was also forced to create the spawn in the way it is now.

    I should probably restate that the villagers are not named. When they die, they have a name. Otherwise, they know self to be Puppet.

    The third of a game, I'll analyze the kills again. Two kills, assuming neither is distracted. One possible day kill, once. A vote phase involving a mayor, which means he can turn at most. He may not rand since cookie monster and if he's found out, no defenses. So 4/12 is max per one cycle. More likely for 2-3 in smaller games (one kill, one vote). It advances slowly, but is average otherwise.

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    3. (12:59:34) 1: 123 Sesame Street. Times Won: 19. Average Players per win: 7.05
    4. (12:59:34) 2: Outcasts. Times Won: 17. Average Players per win: 8.35
    5. (12:59:34) 3: Elmo's World. Times Won: 13. Average Players per win: 6.31
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    Balance is great. The only change I'll make is remove Grouch v2's distract ignore since it doesn't look like they need it.
     
  40. Hearth

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    How did abby die? I thought oscar only pled



    (20:10:51) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:10:51) Times Up! :
    (20:10:51) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (20:10:51) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Dorothy, Ernie, Oscar the Grouch.
    (20:10:51) ±Current Players: Alt, Bl4ck Ghost, Millianna-Claw-, Ninja Assassin, Ortheore.
    (20:10:51) ±Time: Night 1
    (20:10:51) Make your moves, you only have 40 seconds! :
    (20:10:51) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:10:52) Ninja Assassin: spam
    (20:11:28) Array joined the channel.
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    (20:11:31) Times Up! :
    (20:11:31) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Alt (Ernie) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (20:11:31) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Millianna-Claw- (Dorothy) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (20:11:31) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:11:31) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Oscar the Grouch.
    (20:11:31) ±Current Players: Bl4ck Ghost, Ninja Assassin, Ortheore.
    (20:11:31) ±Time: Day 1
    (20:11:31) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:11:31) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:11:43) Ninja Assassin: hm
    (20:12:06) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:12:06) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Oscar the Grouch.
    (20:12:06) ±Current Players: Bl4ck Ghost, Ninja Assassin, Ortheore.
    (20:12:06) ±Time: Day 1
    (20:12:06) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:12:06) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:12:09) Bl4ck Ghost: yah
    (20:12:27) Ortheore: i was bert it said my role got changed
    (20:12:30) Bl4ck Ghost: we should ya know
    (20:12:35) Ortheore: let's rand?
    (20:12:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:12:36) Times Up! :
    (20:12:36) No one was voted off!:
    (20:12:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:12:36) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Oscar the Grouch.
    (20:12:36) ±Current Players: Bl4ck Ghost, Ninja Assassin, Ortheore.
    (20:12:36) ±Time: Night 2
    (20:12:36) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (20:12:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:12:40) Ortheore: or not
    (20:13:12) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:13:12) Times Up! :
    (20:13:12) ±Jerry Nelson: SSPD found the battered remains of Ninja Assassin (Abby) scattered across Sesame Street.
    (20:13:12) ±Game: Bl4ck Ghost, the Outcasts have destroyed all the dolls in sight (and Dorothy). Only followers of the outcasts are now allowed on the street. The Streets are now filled with trash and everything is methodically numbered.
    (20:13:12) ±Game: The 123 Sesame Street (Ortheore) lose!

    and
    What's the point of Grouch?

    (21:28:51) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (21:28:51) ±Current Roles: Abby, Bert, Elmo, Ernie, Oscar the Grouch.
    (21:28:51) ±Current Players: Kenneth P., Rick Gastley, Rick Grimer, Zidane FFIX, brock 2.0.
    (21:28:51) ±Time: Night 1
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2014
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