[NOC] Vanilla Mafia [ Won by the Village! ]

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  1. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Who do I vote
     
  2. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    hell if i know anymore just not laurel (if you vote me ur a butt too)
     
  3. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    Vote zorodark or uso ... I need to look into this more
    I think when meow thinks about it hell realize im not scum
     
  4. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    Also finch is right zoro scum read m2h and metalgross... I really doubt hed get both because hes new so he probably tried bussing them

    One more thing if i was scum i wouldnt give up. I'd want to be the hero that tries to win for my team

    (Analyzing myself here)
     
  5. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    Zorodark what do u think about uso?
     
  6. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    what's there to be found of iso? she's barely posted and consequently it's hard to make a read on her. null, leaning town considering she hasn't done anything stupid yet. also her scum meta usually involves being more active and actually influencing people (see lucid dreams, it's oc but close enough, there's probably more examples))
     
  7. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    uso*
    fuck autocorrect
     
  8. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    zoro that was when she was actively being pressured

    being ignored most of game --> not much content --> when pressured, acts like in lucid
     
  9. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    also nice wifom. can i just point out you've been doing this literally all game? when hannah got killed you immediately posted "I wouldn't be so dumb to kill her; i'm getting framed". i bought it at the time, but you might have done it all along, and getting attention away from you after this.
     
  10. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    might maybe possibly no.

    ofc he posted that, hannah was on his ass the whole day. what else would you expect him to do
     
  11. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    ok i'm in the middle of making a long post but one thing has been irking me a long time: why do you continue to blindly trust laurel even though there's a boatload of arguments against him, and you're getting on my ass for a reason you haven't even mentioned.
     
  12. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    not give a fuck

    it's Laurel though, so that's to be expected

    take a look at my first posts for the stuff I was talking about @ Zoro
     
  13. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    alright time to defend myself against the bitterly few arguments against me

    Argument #1 doesn't even make sense because scum would want to make as many friends as possible. So by your trying to make friends, you're the scummy one here.

    Argument #2 doesn't make make much sense either. They called me town because i was using logic (of my own, not parroting) when making logical votes, and by not doing anything scummy. They also both thought seb was town, does that make him scum too? (btw i don't think he's scum even though i don't understand AT ALL where his blind confidence for laurel comes in. it's like he refuses to even consider the fact that he might actually be scum no matter how many argument point at it.

    Argument #3 makes a little sense I guess. My first vote was on MetalGross because his first couple of posts were awfully parroty (is this a word help) and just generally scummy. Then I shifted my vote onto you because you were making baseless accusations of Hannah being scum (just like metalgross, scum buddy sensor is going crazy) and because you refused to answer questions (and look this is still the same!). Metalgross at least had the excuse of being new, while you had none at all so i shifted votes, but you were both scum in my book at that point (this is 387 btw).

    In #470, i expressed my thoughts that he was scum, but I stuck with my vote on you because you looked scummier at the time. Both this and the other thing might look like bussing (i know, and there's not much i can do about it in hindsight), but it really isn't ugh.

    Next big post of mine is . it was an insanely busy period for me, so i generally didn't post much. i hopped on the ortheore wagon because of the undeniable associative tells from M2H (and may i point out that metalgross and laurel get the same stamp here? buss buss buss). I thought for a while Laurel was town because of seb's arguments or rather gut feeling against it, combined with the hannah kill (which now really looks like wifom to get out of it, nice move actually gotta be said). i turned metalgross into noob town because i honestly didn't think he'd be capable of voting his partner, especially when it enlarged an already large wagon.

    also laurel basically did the exact same shit (being on ortheore wagon the whole time). also look at this gem: "if ortheore somehow flips town, metalgross is as well". this is very nice if you know ortheore is town, and he repeats this a lot of times on page 17. he defends the ortheore wagon throughout the day even if the evidence against metalgross kept mounting. if you're looking for clear defending, there's this beauté

    then after that, we get this. it speaks for itself doesn't it?
    his reply to that is another piece of wifom: tada

    and that's about the same time i start posting again because i was being hilariously busy. that's all i got, ball is in y'alls camp now
     
  14. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    also those 3 points in the quote tag were from laurel js
    wait windblown link pls
     
  15. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Alright so as far as I am concerned, if we don't lynch anyone we are just hurting our own chances at winning - mafia will just be chipping away at us and the person killed at night won't reveal much at this point.

    Laurel has posted a decent amount today, finally, but Zoro just responded in a reflectively strong fashion.

    With all due respects, we aren't realistically going to suddenly lynch anyone that hasn't previously drawn decently large support, so that makes our choices pretty slim, Zoro, Laurel, or Uso.

    As for Uso, she has been quiet and uses the excuse of exams / schoolwork holding her up from following the game and participating. If that is true or not, I don't know. However, Uso has done so little in terms of participating to this thread that it wouldn't shock me if she was scum trying to go under the radar for more controversial, flashy players like Laurel. With the being said, if we lynch her and she flips town, it won't necessarily hurt us as much as the loss of Zoro or even Laurel as they can contribute and at least have been keeping up. Everything taken into consideration, there is a decent case here.

    As for Laurel, I have already spoken volumes in how scummy he has came out as on numerous instances and continue to stand by a majority of my remarks. In addition, ZoroDark's post earlier today employs a couple of other strong arguments for the Laurel-scum case. On the contrary, as Seb and Laurel, oddly, stated, it is unlike Laurel to act like this if he was scum (he has procrastinated and acted carelessly / condescending). So the question of how we read him is ultimately depending on how much emphasis should be put on metas and if we should disregard his sour actions after he got wagoned on (on Saturday/Sunday, mainly).

    As for Zoro, I don't see much going against him. Yes, he has a few posts and actions that can be construed as him being scummy. However, they take quite a bit of implication, questionable logic, and/or plain out guessing to materialize to anything significant or a legitimate scum-read. His little 180 on MetalGross was justified by himself earlier and I am willing to believe him as that is a pretty understandable line of logic. Zoro's actions day 1, disregarding anything relating to Metal, all gave out a pretty big town read to me (iirc, he was one of the initial MewtwoHidden for scum believers, but I am not 100% sure. In addition, there wasn't much suspicious activity from him). With that being said, I don't think I will be voting him, yet.
     
  16. meeps

    meeps Well-Known Member

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    dont capitalize u in uso it looks weird
     
  17. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Zoro, could you respond to Seb's last couple of posts, on this page - specifically the one in response to your Uso read.
     
  18. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Uso
     
  19. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    He knows im clean because of a hard meta read. You 're being dumb. Uso i feel is more scum then zorodark i guess atleast i have more confidence in uso now. Uso has contributed next to nothing... And the false confidence really annoys me

    Lurking is a scummy play zoro read Sonics last mafia game, slamma won lurking the whole time

    Finch what do you think?

    If it was wifom btw id be going alot harder...
     
  20. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    Also i always get pissed when im voted. It reads to my meta all the time.
     
  21. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    I think that either you (Laurel) or Uso are going to be lynched and the ball is in Uso's court because I don't plan on wagoning on her, yet, but she needs to read and post!!!
     
  22. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Ps: I have IRL shit to do, will check bak on this in an hour or two
     
  23. uso

    uso im cool

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    Yeah, I can see where you're coming from, but honestly I'd react the same way whenever under pressure. I understand if you aren't buying this argument (I also wouldn't really trust an excuse like this at first) but I think metagaming (while it's definitely effective at times) can be easily made obsolete either by posting in the same manner or mixing up plays from previous games. You can call me scum for acting similarly as I did in Lucid, but I'm just saying that this is just how I defend myself.

    So, since I'm more available now I'm definitely gonna try to catch up + stop sucking. sorry guys!
     
  24. uso

    uso im cool

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    Hey Laurel, where exactly are instances where I've exhibited false confidence? It's really funny how throughout the past few days you've been stating that you have priorities over this game so you can't be bothered to post, when today a new scum candidate (me) shows up, and suddenly you aren't so busy anymore.

    Also I'm not lurking, I was inactive.
     
  25. Hopkirk

    Hopkirk +C

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    unvote
     
  26. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    If you think about it, Laurel jumped from the Finch scum-wagon (over the weekend), to the Zoro scum-wagon (a few days ago when he said he'd try posting something significant and defending himself), and now is on the uso scum-wagon.

    He has tried to disguise his spree of bandwagon jumping by discussing his own meta and how it matches up with his normal town-meta. Well, Laurel discussing his own actions is invalid because he can easily alter how he plays / posts at this point to be comparable to his town meta. Bringing up your own meta to defend yourself when your meta hasn't been attacked or questioned beforehand, in general, is a scummy method of justifying yourself.

    In addition to this, his claims about employing a "town meta" don't cover-up the plethora of scummy actions that he has either committed or been related to (see Zoro's / my own posts for a large quantity of examples that fit into this category). And when he is hit with this criticism or these allegations of scummy behavior / scum-reads, he either responds with an excuse, resorts back to the meta bull crap, or hopes his buddy Seb bails him out, for the millionth time.

    So, Vote Laurel
     
  27. meeps

    meeps Well-Known Member

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    uso i defended you, you should thank me pls
     
  28. ajhockeystar

    ajhockeystar Proud Canadian

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    Votecount 4.2:

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    Laurel(5): meeps, Rioku, ZoroDark, Navidad Pirate, Finchinator L-1
    ZoroDark(2): Laurel, JhenMohran
    uso(2): Windblown, Marquis
    Finchinator(0):
    Marquis(0):
    Navidad Pirate(0):
    JhenMohran(0):
    Rioku(0):
    Hopkirk(0):
    Windblown(0):
    meeps(0):
    Not Voting(2): uso, Hopkirk
    ***********************
    There are 11 people so it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Thursday the 9th at 9pm EST.
     
  29. uso

    uso im cool

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    thx babe
     
  30. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    I never said you did false evidence. I just said you havn't done anything. I am still busy why do you think my posts are so short. You stop lurking when you start getting pressured... Coincidence?
     
  31. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    unvote
    vote uso

    You guys will feel dumb when I flip town but whatever. Seb knows my meta well and is defending me but you don't care. You fall for the frame. There is no reason why you think im scum based on what i've done, only what m2h and metal gross did and they are both new.

    Do you really think m2h would try and lynch me day 1. I would be the most valuable asset to the team.
     
  32. uso

    uso im cool

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    dude i started getting pressured when i started to actually post
     
  33. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    Finch how else am I supposed to defend myself. I'm not good enough yet to mask my meta ._.
     
  34. uso

    uso im cool

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    you don't defend yourself by calling other people scum
     
  35. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    or making excuses
    or johning
     
  36. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    No Finch said im defending myself buy comparing my meta to other games. Also, you are scum, so shut the hell up, you're acting scummy as fuck.
     
  37. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    if you guys knew me you'd know my strongest scum reads are gut... read any other game and this is both a gut and mind read on uso. Finch please if I'm wrong vote me tomorrow.

    I know Uso is scum, you have to trust me on this.
     
  38. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Ok.

    You were under the impression that I was scum on Saturday. You believed Zoro was scum a couple of days back. Why should we let you continuously 180 to mirror the action of the majority? Why should we let you aimlessly insult users? Why should we let you utilize weak justification to escape predicaments?
     
  39. uso

    uso im cool

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    lol

    Laurel, you can say any scum read "comes from your gut", but that argument isn't actually going to convince anyone without proper reasoning.
     
  40. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    tbf a one-game sample size is pretty small

    this sentence is kinda sticking out though, it's like 'yeah I agree with you and I see your point and I'd even think I look scummy at first' which is kinda conciliatory

    for ZoroDark, from Russia with love