Rotom

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  1. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    First of all: Don't comment on this theme if you didn't read the theme. This version of Rotom passed through lots of changes since the version that was once in the server, so please don't review it before reading it carefully.

    Yes, it's that theme. The theme that made conversions popular, and even managed to push 43 players on its first day in the server at a time games were around 18 players.

    Code: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10065307/Mafia/Rotom.js
    Code (text):
    1. {
    2.     "name": "Rotom",
    3.     "author": "RiceKirby",
    4.     "summary": "Everyone starts as a Rotom and has to choose a form. And then wipe out the other forms. All players can Inspect twice during the game. [MOW: Nightkill] - [WASH: Distract, +15 votes] - [HEAT: 2x Poison] - [FROST: Recruiter] - [FAN: Daykill]",
    5.     "minplayers": 3,
    6.     "sides": [
    7.         {
    8.             "side": "rotom",
    9.             "translation": "Rotom",
    10.             "winmsg": "*** O.O *** The Normal Rotoms won?!?! How the hell did ~Players~ do that?"
    11.         },
    12.         {
    13.             "side": "grass",
    14.             "translation": "Lawnmowers",
    15.             "winmsg": "Suddenly, all Lawnmowers in the city started moving on its own! I bet this is a ~Players~'s prank!:"
    16.         },
    17.         {
    18.             "side": "water",
    19.             "translation": "Washing Machines",
    20.             "winmsg": "Suddenly, all Washing Machines in the city started moving on its own! I bet this is a ~Players~'s prank!:"
    21.         },
    22.         {
    23.             "side": "fire",
    24.             "translation": "Microwave Ovens",
    25.             "winmsg": "Suddenly, all Microwave Ovens in the city started moving on its own! I bet this is a ~Players~'s prank!:"
    26.         },
    27.         {
    28.             "side": "ice",
    29.             "translation": "Refrigerators",
    30.             "winmsg": "Suddenly, all Refrigerators in the city started moving on its own! I bet this is a ~Players~'s prank!:"
    31.         },
    32.         {
    33.             "side": "flying",
    34.             "translation": "Electric Fans",
    35.             "winmsg": "Suddenly, all Electric Fans in the city started moving on its own! I bet this is a ~Players~'s prank!:"
    36.         }
    37.     ],
    38.     "roles": [
    39.         {
    40.             "role": "rotom",
    41.             "translation": "Rotom",
    42.             "side": "rotom",
    43.             "help": "You can possess a machine and get a new power! Type /mow, /wash, /heat, /frost or /fan to change forms. Twice during the game (even after changing forms), you can type /inspect [name] at night to find someone's role. If you don't possess anything, you can use /shock [name] to kill up to 10 players after the 7th night!",
    44.             "info": "Can transform itself into Mow, Wash, Heat, Frost or Fan Rotom. Can inspect twice during the game. Can kill 10 times after Night 7. Sided with Rotom.",
    45.             "actions": {
    46.                 "night": {
    47.                     "mow": {
    48.                         "command": "convert",
    49.                         "target": "OnlySelf",
    50.                         "common": "Self",
    51.                         "priority": 1,
    52.                         "newRole": "grass",
    53.                         "canConvert": [
    54.                             "rotom"
    55.                         ],
    56.                         "restrict": [
    57.                             "heat",
    58.                             "wash",
    59.                             "frost",
    60.                             "fan"
    61.                         ],
    62.                         "silent": true
    63.                     },
    64.                     "wash": {
    65.                         "command": "convert",
    66.                         "target": "OnlySelf",
    67.                         "common": "Self",
    68.                         "priority": 1,
    69.                         "newRole": "water",
    70.                         "canConvert": [
    71.                             "rotom"
    72.                         ],
    73.                         "restrict": [
    74.                             "heat",
    75.                             "frost",
    76.                             "fan",
    77.                             "mow"
    78.                         ],
    79.                         "silent": true
    80.                     },
    81.                     "heat": {
    82.                         "command": "convert",
    83.                         "target": "OnlySelf",
    84.                         "common": "Self",
    85.                         "priority": 1,
    86.                         "newRole": "fire",
    87.                         "canConvert": [
    88.                             "rotom"
    89.                         ],
    90.                         "restrict": [
    91.                             "wash",
    92.                             "frost",
    93.                             "fan",
    94.                             "mow"
    95.                         ],
    96.                         "silent": true
    97.                     },
    98.                     "frost": {
    99.                         "command": "convert",
    100.                         "target": "OnlySelf",
    101.                         "common": "Self",
    102.                         "priority": 1,
    103.                         "newRole": "ice",
    104.                         "canConvert": [
    105.                             "rotom"
    106.                         ],
    107.                         "restrict": [
    108.                             "heat",
    109.                             "wash",
    110.                             "fan",
    111.                             "mow"
    112.                         ],
    113.                         "silent": true
    114.                     },
    115.                     "fan": {
    116.                         "command": "convert",
    117.                         "target": "OnlySelf",
    118.                         "common": "Self",
    119.                         "priority": 1,
    120.                         "newRole": "flying",
    121.                         "canConvert": [
    122.                             "rotom"
    123.                         ],
    124.                         "restrict": [
    125.                             "heat",
    126.                             "wash",
    127.                             "frost",
    128.                             "mow"
    129.                         ],
    130.                         "silent": true
    131.                     },
    132.                     "inspect": {
    133.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    134.                         "common": "Self",
    135.                         "priority": 7,
    136.                         "charges": 2,
    137.                         "hide": true
    138.                     },
    139.                     "shock": {
    140.                         "command": "dummy",
    141.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    142.                         "common": "Self",
    143.                         "priority": 6,
    144.                         "limit": 10,
    145.                         "initialrecharge": 7
    146.                     }
    147.                 },
    148.                 "dummy": {
    149.                     "mode": "die",
    150.                     "msg": "You have been electrified!",
    151.                     "targetmsg": "Your target (~Self~) died electrified!"
    152.                 }
    153.             }
    154.         },
    155.         {
    156.             "role": "grass",
    157.             "translation": "Mow Rotom",
    158.             "side": "grass",
    159.             "help": "You possessed a Lawnmower! You can type /kill [name] during the night to defeat another Rotom. You have a 50% chance of evading distractions.",
    160.             "info": "Can kill one person during the night. Has a 50% chance of evading distract. Sided with Lawnmowers. ",
    161.             "actions": {
    162.                 "night": {
    163.                     "kill": {
    164.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    165.                         "common": "Self",
    166.                         "priority": 3,
    167.                         "msg": "A lawnmower ran over you!"
    168.                     },
    169.                     "inspect": {
    170.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    171.                         "common": "Self",
    172.                         "priority": 7,
    173.                         "hide": true
    174.                     }
    175.                 },
    176.                 "distract": {
    177.                     "mode": {
    178.                         "evadeChance": 0.5
    179.                     }
    180.                 },
    181.                 "dummy": {
    182.                     "mode": "die",
    183.                     "msg": "You have been electrified!",
    184.                     "targetmsg": "Your target (~Self~) died electrified!"
    185.                 }
    186.             }
    187.         },
    188.         {
    189.             "role": "water",
    190.             "translation": "Wash Rotom",
    191.             "side": "water",
    192.             "help": "You possessed a Washing Machine! You can type /distract [name] every 2 nights to stop another Rotom. Your vote counts as +15, and you have a 50% chance of evading poison.",
    193.             "info": "Vote counts as 15. Can distract one person every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading poison. Sided with Washing Machines. ",
    194.             "actions": {
    195.                 "night": {
    196.                     "distract": {
    197.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    198.                         "common": "Self",
    199.                         "priority": 2,
    200.                         "recharge": 2,
    201.                         "distractmsg": "A Wash Rotom decided to clean you during the night, so you had to wait patiently."
    202.                     },
    203.                     "inspect": {
    204.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    205.                         "common": "Self",
    206.                         "priority": 7,
    207.                         "hide": true
    208.                     }
    209.                 },
    210.                 "poison": {
    211.                     "mode": {
    212.                         "evadeChance": 0.5
    213.                     }
    214.                 },
    215.                 "vote": 15,
    216.                 "dummy": {
    217.                     "mode": "die",
    218.                     "msg": "You have been electrified!",
    219.                     "targetmsg": "Your target (~Self~) died electrified!"
    220.                 }
    221.             }
    222.         },
    223.         {
    224.             "role": "fire",
    225.             "translation": "Heat Rotom",
    226.             "side": "fire",
    227.             "help": "You possessed a Microwave Oven! You can type /poison [name] twice during the night to kill your targets during the next night. And you have a 50% chance of evading conversions.",
    228.             "info": "Can poison 2 persons during the night. Has a 50% chance of evading conversions. Sided with Microwave Ovens. ",
    229.             "actions": {
    230.                 "night": {
    231.                     "poison": {
    232.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    233.                         "common": "Self",
    234.                         "priority": 4,
    235.                         "count": 2,
    236.                         "limit": 2,
    237.                         "poisonDeadMessage": "You melted after being exposed to the microwaves for too long!"
    238.                     },
    239.                     "inspect": {
    240.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    241.                         "common": "Self",
    242.                         "priority": 7,
    243.                         "hide": true
    244.                     }
    245.                 },
    246.                 "convert": {
    247.                     "mode": {
    248.                         "evadeChance": 0.5
    249.                     }
    250.                 },
    251.                 "dummy": {
    252.                     "mode": "die",
    253.                     "msg": "You have been electrified!",
    254.                     "targetmsg": "Your target (~Self~) died electrified!"
    255.                 }
    256.             }
    257.         },
    258.         {
    259.             "role": "ice",
    260.             "translation": "Frost Rotom",
    261.             "side": "ice",
    262.             "help": "You possessed a Refrigerator! You can type /convert [name] every 2 nights to transform another kind of Rotom into a Frost Rotom. You have a 50% chance of evading daykills.",
    263.             "info": "Can convert one person to Frost Rotom every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading daykills. Sided with Refrigerators. ",
    264.             "actions": {
    265.                 "night": {
    266.                     "convert": {
    267.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    268.                         "common": "Self",
    269.                         "priority": 5,
    270.                         "newRole": "ice",
    271.                         "canConvert": [
    272.                             "rotom",
    273.                             "fire",
    274.                             "water",
    275.                             "grass",
    276.                             "flying"
    277.                         ],
    278.                         "convertmsg": "A ~Old~ was cooled until it became a ~New~!",
    279.                         "recharge": 2
    280.                     },
    281.                     "inspect": {
    282.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    283.                         "common": "Self",
    284.                         "priority": 7,
    285.                         "hide": true
    286.                     }
    287.                 },
    288.                 "daykill": {
    289.                     "mode": {
    290.                         "evadeChance": 0.5
    291.                     }
    292.                 },
    293.                 "dummy": {
    294.                     "mode": "die",
    295.                     "msg": "You have been electrified!",
    296.                     "targetmsg": "Your target (~Self~) died electrified!"
    297.                 }
    298.             }
    299.         },
    300.         {
    301.             "role": "flying",
    302.             "translation": "Fan Rotom",
    303.             "side": "flying",
    304.             "help": "You possessed an Electric Fan! Type /kill [name] during the day to defeat another Rotom (only after the 2nd day; you won't be revealed). You have a 50% chance of evading nightkills.",
    305.             "info": "Can kill one person during the standby (after 2 days, concealed). Has a 50% chance of evading nightkills. Sided with Electric Fans. ",
    306.             "actions": {
    307.                 "night": {
    308.                     "inspect": {
    309.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    310.                         "common": "Self",
    311.                         "priority": 7,
    312.                         "hide": true
    313.                     }
    314.                 },
    315.                 "standby": {
    316.                     "kill": {
    317.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    318.                         "msg": "Breeze Time! Type /kill [name] to defeat another Rotom!",
    319.                         "killmsg": "A Fan Rotom's wind blew ~Target~ away!",
    320.                         "initialrecharge": 2,
    321.                         "revealChance": 0,
    322.                         "revealmsg": "A breeze can be felt around ~Self~."
    323.                     }
    324.                 },
    325.                 "kill": {
    326.                     "mode": {
    327.                         "evadeChance": 0.5
    328.                     }
    329.                 },
    330.                 "dummy": {
    331.                     "mode": "die",
    332.                     "msg": "You have been electrified!",
    333.                     "targetmsg": "Your target (~Self~) died electrified!"
    334.                 }
    335.             }
    336.         },
    337.         {
    338.             "role": "prio",
    339.             "translation": "Any Rotom",
    340.             "side": "rotom",
    341.             "help": "Placeholder role for /priority list. Also, why did the chicken cross the road?",
    342.             "hide": true,
    343.             "actions": {
    344.                 "night": {
    345.                     "inspect": {
    346.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    347.                         "common": "Self",
    348.                         "priority": 7
    349.                     }
    350.                 }
    351.             }
    352.         }
    353.     ],
    354.     "roles1": [
    355.         "rotom",
    356.         "rotom",
    357.         "rotom",
    358.         "rotom",
    359.         "rotom",
    360.         "rotom",
    361.         "rotom",
    362.         "rotom",
    363.         "rotom",
    364.         "rotom",
    365.         "rotom",
    366.         "rotom",
    367.         "rotom",
    368.         "rotom",
    369.         "rotom",
    370.         "rotom",
    371.         "rotom",
    372.         "rotom",
    373.         "rotom",
    374.         "rotom",
    375.         "rotom",
    376.         "rotom",
    377.         "rotom",
    378.         "rotom",
    379.         "rotom",
    380.         "rotom",
    381.         "rotom",
    382.         "rotom",
    383.         "rotom",
    384.         "rotom",
    385.         "rotom",
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    417.     "votemsg": "~Player~ rotoms ~Target~!",
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    [/HIDE]Concept:
    It's basically a battle royale between Rotom forms. Players can freely choose which form/side they want to become, and each form gets its own ability to take down other players.

    What changed from the old version:
    -Actions/forms were swapped for some roles. For example, Mow is now a nightkiller instead of daykiller, while Heat is the poisoner.
    -More time: No one can daykill until D2. Game used to be a mess with people becoming a daykiller and killing everyone D1, but now that's fixed so players can actually work their strategy without dying immediately.
    -Resistance: All forms (except normal) now have a 50% chance of evading another form's action. This makes each form having a side they are weaker against, which encourages some strategical thinking (a player could try to quickly get rid of someone they are weak against, or they could go for someone they can take down more easily, for example).
    -Information: To make the point above meaningful, players can now obtain and decide how to use information. Every player is able to inspect 2 other players during the game. This way, they could find people they are weak against, connect to teammates, fake claim to opponents, etc.

    Roles:
    -Rotom: Can convert into Mow, Wash, Heat, Frost or Fan form. Each form is in a different side, and once converted, the player cannot go back. If not converting until the 7th night, can kill up to 10 players during the night.
    -Mow Rotom: Can nightkill. Has a 50% chance of evading Distraction.
    -Wash Rotom: +15 votes. Can distract a person every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading Poison.
    -Heat Rotom: Can poison 2 persons per night. Has a 50% chance of evading Conversion.
    -Frost Rotom: Can convert 1 player into a new Frost Rotom every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading Daykills.
    -Fan Rotom: Can daykill (won't reveal itself, has to wait for 1 turn after converting). Has a 50% chance of evading Nightkills (except for normal Rotom's kill).

    Also, all players, regardless of their form, can use /inspect twice during the game.
    All forms (except Normal) get a 50% evasions to another action. The logic is simple: Mow resists Wash resists Heat resists Frost resists Fan resists Mow (Grass > Water > Fire > Ice > Flying > Grass).

    Priority:
    [1] Rotom (Mow)
    [1] Rotom (Wash)
    [1] Rotom (Heat)
    [1] Rotom (Frost)
    [1] Rotom (Fan)
    [2] Wash Rotom (Distract)
    [3] Mow Rotom (Kill)
    [4] Heat Rotom (Poison)
    [5] Frost Rotom (Convert)
    [6] Rotom (Shock)
    [7] Any Rotom (Inspect)

    Spawn List:
    1~60: Rotom

    Logs:
    And for the first time, a theme with some logs before it was posted!
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/uw4xo8kbvwmigvz/Rotom_2013.11.15_21.00.txt
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/aaq0ini1mzyq6p8/Rotom_2013.11.15_21.42.txt
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/cnyqfttil89qe5k/Rotom_2013.11.15_22.39.txt

    Those logs came from the PO2 server, and they show some examples of players using information and how the kill rate is not absurd (AKA it's far from being a noobkiller now). The last log also shows how I almost won but got denied by someone with a "Wait to convert" strategy :(
    I also changed some stuff since those logs (mostly Frost's /convert having a recharge).

    More logs here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8xkqgxry45m9sv0/_LQnuh8QeV
     
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  2. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Oh yay, Rotom! :D Well, as we can tell, you put in a lot of work to make this theme balanced and make sure one side is not considerably stronger than another. While it still relies what everyone converts to, there hasn't been some overwhelming majority for sides to where you can tell massive imbalance because every role seems desirable. Another great product by Rice Co., keep em coming.
     
  3. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    I love this theme. I always have. It's super fun and is a break from all the stress of a "regular" mafia game and it's a clanwar of sorts. I dunno if I'll approve it, but... there's no doubt in my mind that this is one of the most fun themes ever created
     
  4. Angel Flonne

    Angel Flonne macaron

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    This theme is amazing, fun, great, wonderful, and super yay~

    Undoubtedly, as seen in the logs, people will want to convert into a Fan Rotom. One thing bad about Fan Rotom is that they have too much firepower at their disposal. One could say the same about a nightkiller, but well, I think people enjoy daykilling compared to nightkilling. Mow, not many people will convert to it as seen with last time (Heat Rotom). Heat poisoner is the same as Mow nightkiller. Wash will definitely get off a 'kill' everyday, but have very low firepower. It's also easy to find out who is Wash due to voting patterns and such. And my favorite, Frost Rotom (it used to be fan but whatevs). Now that it kind of evades daykills, it can convert people slowly into their team.

    I think that maybe you should make the Fan kills... common team, while having a limit of 2/3? idk, there has to be a way to limit their firepower.
     
  5. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    It's not possible to have shared daykills :x
    But remember that Fan has a initialrecharge: 2 now. By the time they can get their first kill, all other forms already got a chance to do their first move.

    Also, a thing I'm expecting to see is people choosing a form to counter another popular form. Everyone is going Fan? Fine, let's go Frost to have a 50% Daykill evasion chance. Too many Frosts? Gotta become Heat to evade their conversion.
     
  6. Hopkirk

    Hopkirk +C

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    You should tell people in their helps they have an inspect.
     
  7. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Normal Rotom is already told that they can inspect even after changing forms. Adding that to all forms would make the help texts too cluttered.
     
  8. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Add that in the description then?

    I personally think that this addresses all the problems with the old Rotom, especially teamkilling and cross-fire

    Give recharges or charges on daykills? That wasn't possible before, but it could work now, and could give Mow and Wash especially some better chance of winning.
     
  9. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    That was there since the beginning :x

    You talk as if Fan is OP and Mow and Wash are UP. Fan is the 2nd slowest form now, and that speed makes a big difference. If I need to nerf Fans, it will be with a revealChance, not charges/recharge.
    Also, charges is not going to happen. Can you imagine how anyone playing this theme would feel if they cannot do anything anymore while everyone else would still be killing or poisoning the other players?
     
  10. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    I'll be honest with you and say I dislike 'killfest' games such as this. While I know this is different in quite a few ways from Castle and Vepix, among other variants, and I know that you've adapted from the last time this has been played, my stance still stands. I did play this on PO2 and it was actually more enjoyable than I expected, so points for that.

    Regular Rotom's conversion is a bit too powerful/implausible to come forth, as my observations from PO2 games show that they don't really go through to night 7, and if they do, most Rotoms are converted or killed just by the sheer amount of killing that is going on.

    Frost's side seems OP due to the pseudo-connecting they can do with converting. Their ability to evade 50% of daykills puts their defensive power above the others because a lot of people like to go Fan, although I'm not sure if this is a problem with the theme or a player-affected variable. It might encourage more people to go Mow/Wash, idk. My point is that it is pretty difficult to go through and make this a 'balanced' theme because every game is highly random.

    Daykilling on even days (due to initial recharge for fans) might be good to stop them from masskilling.

    I'm actually willing to Test [1] because this theme is obviously a channel favorite but I'm hoping this theme still continues to become more strategic. We will see, I suppose.
     
  11. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    Before I do anything with Testing, Frosts should probably have some sort of failchance. It's a bit much if say 5 people turn frost, cause then there will be ten on the next night, which is usually going to be half of the players.
    Of course, that's assuming all goes perfectly. But we always assume it does.
     
  12. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Frosts already have recharge:2 and priority lower than Mow's nightkill and Wash's Distract. Having Fail Chance for your only action when you can only use it every 2 nights and could end not using because of Distracts, dead target or getting killed yourself would basically make no one have a reason to ever choose Frost.
     
  13. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    Oh, they have a recharge? I didn't even read that. Disregard what I said. Anyway, yeah. I don't see many people turning heat or mow ever. People seem to like votes and day actions, lol. Still on the fence about testing on actual server for this one, though.
     
  14. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    How do you intend to review it then?
     
  15. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    you know what, i thought about it some more (and yes, for like five minutes). It deserves a test [2] on the main server, where we can have bigger games that last longer and have more time for stuff to happen. So i'll give it that.
     
  16. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Ok i have only one question because i am not sure what happens in this situation.
    I've seen that only the ghost rotom has the "charges": 2, command inside his inspect and the others not. So what happens when he transform in another type of rotom? Does he has still only the charges that he didn't used when he was a ghost rotom or it is like if he has a "recharge": 1, in his code?
    Anyway i wanna be sincere, i played rotom only once during the first period that i installed Pokemon Online, so i was a little noobish and didn't understood precisely how it worked.
    So i think i wanna seem it on the main server a pair of days before to decide to approve or not, but from the enthusiasm of some people before this theme i guess it will don't have great problems so here a Test[3] for now and a nearly sure approve later.
     
  17. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    (20:18:06) ±Murkrow: Sky Sentinel added the theme Rotom.
     
  18. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Once charges are set for a command, they are kept for that player regardless of the player changing roles, until another role sets a "charges" for a command with the same name again.
    So if normal Rotom has "charges": 2 for an /inspect command, any other form that has a /inspect with no "charges" will interpret that as "keep the charges the player already had".

    tl;dr: It works as intended. Players can inspect twice per game regardless of form or when they used their command.

    Edit: Logs from games when I'm online will be automatically posted here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8xkqgxry45m9sv0/_LQnuh8QeV

    First game was this one (22 players): https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgatjh0xhu1svet/Rotom_2013.11.19_23.39.txt
    Normal Rotoms surprisingly won the first game in an epic way.

    Some points to highlight in this log:
    -Fan Rotoms are far from being OP. Frost still could be a bit strong (although it already had more players than any other form by N1).
    -People using their information to trick other players. Just by knowing that there are inspections, people can easily bluff. As an example, Matt PMd me claiming to be my teammate and telling me a Fan (even though I was the only person in my team :x)
    -Players tried to strategize. I was revealed the only Heat D2, but Wash Rotoms decided it was safer to keep me alive, since I had a better chance at taking down all those Frosts, and Wash Rotoms had their evasion to my poison.
    -I derped when I poisoned Pikachu Master. I was only Heat and revealed, it was obvious he would kill me after that :x

    What I'm thinking about after this first game:
    -Perhaps removing the recharge from Wash's distract would be a way to nerf Frosts while buffing both Wash and Mow (since Mows evade 50% of distractions)
    -Make Frost fully evade other Frost Rotoms' convert. Since Frosts already get an advantage at connecting, making them evade themselves would make players unable to tell if anyone who evades is Heat or another Frost.
     
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  19. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    log just in case you haven't seen it already
    (20:30:27) Times Up! :
    (20:30:27) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (20:30:27) ±Game: You are a Rotom!
    (20:30:27) ±Game: You can possess a machine and get a new power! Type /mow, /wash, /heat, /frost or /fan to change forms. Twice during the game (even after changing forms), you can type /inspect [name] at night to find someone's role. If you don't possess anything, you can use /shock [name] to kill up to 10 players after the 7th night!
    (20:30:27) ±Current Roles: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom.
    (20:30:27) ±Current Players: Cerelia, Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, My Legacy, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Pogent, RedJoker25, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Slyie, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:30:27) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:30:27) ±Time: Night 1
    (20:30:27) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:30:27) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:30:31) PIA: fan pls
    (20:30:32) pokemonwelove: There should be a Macbeth theme
    (20:30:32) Matt Ayala: GUESS WHAT I AM
    (20:30:33) Meloetta: Rotom here
    (20:30:33) RiceKirby: From 10 to 22 Players
    (20:30:34) Meloetta: Rotom pm
    (20:30:38) RiceKirby: Fear Rotom's power
    (20:30:41) meeps: hi
    (20:30:41) pokemonwelove: Im a rotom
    (20:30:43) meeps: is dogtom
    (20:30:56) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:30:56) Times Up! :
    (20:30:56) No one died! :
    (20:30:56) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:30:56) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:30:56) ±Current Players: Cerelia, Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, My Legacy, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Pogent, RedJoker25, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Slyie, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:30:56) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:30:57) ±Time: Day 1
    (20:30:57) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:30:57) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:31:00) Matt Ayala: dogetom
    (20:31:05) Sehun: haven't changed yet
    (20:31:06) PIA: wat
    (20:31:06) Veteran Padgett: normal rotom ftw
    (20:31:08) pokemonwelove: Is this an everyone for themselves game?
    (20:31:10) Cerelia: a lot haven't changed
    (20:31:10) the King Dedede: LOL
    (20:31:11) My Legacy: lol at all these normals
    (20:31:12) My Legacy: LMaooo.
    (20:31:15) Windblown: we the rotom
    (20:31:16) Windblown: rotoms unite
    (20:31:18) Windblown: kill frost
    (20:31:20) Pikachu Master: Forme changes set the teams.
    (20:31:22) HellobyexD: so much fros and fan lol
    (20:31:26) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:31:26) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:31:26) ±Current Players: Cerelia, Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, My Legacy, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Pogent, RedJoker25, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Slyie, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:31:26) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:31:26) ±Time: Day 1
    (20:31:27) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:31:27) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:31:27) Marquis: marriage in rotomtown
    (20:31:27) ±Game: Fiefi3 rotoms RedJoker25!
    (20:31:29) Marquis: ???
    (20:31:30) RiceKirby: Frost is overrated
    (20:31:30) My Legacy: k
    (20:31:31) ±Game: RedJoker25 rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:31:32) +RedJoker25: wat
    (20:31:32) ±Game: Marquis rotoms RedJoker25!
    (20:31:32) HellobyexD: I am a reg rotom cause i can
    (20:31:32) ±Game: Veteran Padgett rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:31:33) Marquis: ok
    (20:31:33) ±Game: RiceKirby rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:31:34) ±Game: pokemonwelove rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:31:34) Windblown: the fast and the rotomless
    (20:31:34) Sky Sentinel: so many rotoms
    (20:31:35) Sehun: mow rotom hate
    (20:31:35) the King Dedede: wdf
    (20:31:37) Pogent: oh chrsit
    (20:31:37) Fiefi3: Why me?
    (20:31:38) Fiefi3: ;p
    (20:31:38) ±Game: Meloetta rotoms RedJoker25!
    (20:31:39) the King Dedede: voting d1
    (20:31:41) the King Dedede: rly
    (20:31:41) Meloetta: wtf
    (20:31:41) RiceKirby: Gotta counter-rotom
    (20:31:42) ±Game: Windblown rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:31:44) ±Game: My Legacy rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:31:44) ±Game: meeps rotoms Windblown!
    (20:31:46) meeps: haha'
    (20:31:46) +RedJoker25: i could ask the same thing
    (20:31:48) Fiefi3: Only one wash
    (20:31:49) ±Game: HellobyexD rotoms HellobyexD!
    (20:31:49) Windblown: meeps is wash omfg
    (20:31:51) Marquis: WINDY IS DEAD
    (20:31:51) Fiefi3: Who could i be ;p
    (20:31:53) Pogent: you can but will you
    (20:31:54) Sehun: no mows though
    (20:31:56) ±Game: Cerelia rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:31:58) Pikachu Master: Have you ever been rotom'd so hard...?
    (20:32:01) Windblown: meeps is wash if i die
    (20:32:03) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:32:03) Times Up! :
    (20:32:03) ±Motor: RedJoker25 (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:32:03) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:32:04) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:32:04) ±Current Players: Cerelia, Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, My Legacy, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Pogent, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Slyie, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:32:04) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:32:04) ±Time: Night 2
    (20:32:04) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:32:04) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:32:06) Windblown: o
    (20:32:07) Sehun: wat
    (20:32:08) meeps: im clean
    (20:32:10) Veteran Padgett: lol frost wrecked
    (20:32:10) pokemonwelove: guys just dont kill until N7 and watch hilarity ensue
    (20:32:10) PIA: rip rj
    (20:32:13) Veteran Padgett: everyone go fan
    (20:32:13) Marquis: imcleantoo
    (20:32:19) ±Game: You have chosen to inspect My Legacy!
    (20:32:21) pokemonwelove: Everyones clean?
    (20:32:23) Windblown: kill veteran padgett pls he is fan
    (20:32:23) Cerelia: everyone should stay basic rotom ok
    (20:32:24) PIA: Fan strong
    (20:32:26) Veteran Padgett: not yet
    (20:32:28) Pikachu Master: So many unconverted Rotoms.
    (20:32:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:32:33) Times Up! :
    (20:32:33) ±Game: A Rotom was cooled until it became a Frost Rotom!
    (20:32:33) ±Game: You have 1 charges remaining
    (20:32:34) ±Info: My Legacy is the Rotom!!
    (20:32:34) No one died! :
    (20:32:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:32:34) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:32:34) ±Current Players: Cerelia, Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, My Legacy, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Pogent, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Slyie, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:32:34) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:32:34) ±Time: Day 2
    (20:32:34) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:32:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:32:34) Pikachu Master: (Rota?)
    (20:32:37) Pogent: this is going nowhere near well imo
    (20:32:38) Fiefi3: Sky sentinel is Rotom ,-,
    (20:32:41) Sky Sentinel: thansk
    (20:32:41) Marquis: asdf
    (20:32:42) Cerelia: Slyie is the fan rotom
    (20:32:46) Veteran Padgett: lol that heat
    (20:32:50) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:32:50) ±Game: A Fan Rotom's wind blew Cerelia away!
    (20:32:50) ±Motor: Cerelia (Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:32:50) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:32:52) Windblown: ded
    (20:32:54) Fiefi3: Get rid of rotoms
    (20:32:54) the King Dedede: LOL
    (20:32:54) PIA: lmao
    (20:32:54) Meloetta: RiceKirby is sole haeat
    (20:32:56) pokemonwelove: lol
    (20:32:58) Fiefi3: that 10 kills on day 7 ,-,
    (20:32:59) Sky Sentinel: mean man
    (20:32:59) meeps: is dogtom
    (20:33:03) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:33:03) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:33:04) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, My Legacy, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Pogent, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Slyie, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:33:04) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:33:04) ±Time: Day 2
    (20:33:04) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:33:04) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:33:08) ±Game: Windblown rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:08) ±Game: Sehun rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:08) Pogent: pog pog is pois pois
    (20:33:09) ±Game: RiceKirby rotoms Slyie!
    (20:33:09) Windblown: death to rice
    (20:33:10) ±Game: Pogent rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:12) ±Game: Veteran Padgett rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:13) ±Game: Pikachu Master rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:13) RiceKirby: Only Heat totally a Threat
    (20:33:14) ±Game: Meloetta rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:15) pokemonwelove: Do fans know their teammates?
    (20:33:15) ±Game: the King Dedede rotoms Slyie!
    (20:33:16) ±Game: Slyie rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:16) ±Game: Fiefi3 rotoms Veteran Padgett!
    (20:33:17) Windblown: no
    (20:33:18) ±Game: pokemonwelove rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:18) RiceKirby: You even forgot Slyie is Fan
    (20:33:20) ±Game: HellobyexD rotoms Slyie!
    (20:33:21) the King Dedede: kirby ima halp </3
    (20:33:21) ±Game: My Legacy rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:33:22) the King Dedede: +4
    (20:33:23) Slyie: ?
    (20:33:24) ±Game: Marquis rotoms Slyie!
    (20:33:24) the King Dedede: here
    (20:33:27) Marquis: hahahaha
    (20:33:28) Marquis: die
    (20:33:29) RiceKirby: Wash halp
    (20:33:32) Pikachu Master: You guys. Rotom. Is MOTOR spelled backwards.
    (20:33:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:33:33) Times Up! :
    (20:33:33) ±Motor: Slyie (Fan Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:33:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:33:34) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:33:34) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, My Legacy, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Pogent, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:33:34) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:33:34) ±Time: Night 3
    (20:33:34) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:33:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:33:37) RiceKirby: :D
    (20:33:37) Matt Ayala: mindblown
    (20:33:41) Veteran Padgett: omg pikachu no weei
    (20:33:51) RiceKirby: Sehun and Windblown being poisoned
    (20:33:53) RiceKirby: For randing me
    (20:33:56) Windblown: die
    (20:33:57) +Fuzzy: Ekans is Snake spelled backwards, and Arbok is Python spelled backwards
    (20:34:00) Sehun: D:
    (20:34:03) meeps: !!1
    (20:34:03) Meloetta: Fuzzy
    (20:34:04) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:34:04) Times Up! :
    (20:34:04) ±Game: A Fan Rotom was cooled until it became a Frost Rotom!
    (20:34:04) ±Motor: My Legacy (Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:34:04) ±Motor: Pogent (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:34:04) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:34:04) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:34:04) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:34:05) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:34:05) ±Time: Day 3
    (20:34:05) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:34:05) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:34:05) Sehun: arbok is python
    (20:34:05) Sehun: lol
    (20:34:06) Windblown: articUNO zapDOS molTRES
    (20:34:10) Windblown: HAHAHA FANS
    (20:34:10) Sehun: scumbag rice
    (20:34:13) pokemonwelove: *boom*
    (20:34:16) Marquis: fuk i can't kill windblown anyone
    (20:34:16) the King Dedede: 5 normal rotoms </3
    (20:34:21) Veteran Padgett: Windblown is frost lame
    (20:34:22) Matt Ayala: DEIno ZWEIlous hyDREIgon
    (20:34:22) Sehun: Scumbag mow
    (20:34:23) Fiefi3: King dedede is rotom
    (20:34:24) Sehun: Tried to kill me too
    (20:34:25) Matt Ayala: One two three in german
    (20:34:29) RiceKirby: Windblown is also poisoned
    (20:34:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:34:33) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:34:34) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, obey to kyubey, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:34:34) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:34:34) ±Time: Day 3
    (20:34:34) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:34:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:34:34) Windblown: I'm poisoned get rice
    (20:34:35) Marquis: obey to kyubey is Fan Rotom, PMed me
    (20:34:35) ±Game: Windblown rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:34:36) Sehun: Rice poisons me, and mow sitll tries to kill me
    (20:34:37) ±Game: Marquis rotoms obey to kyubey!
    (20:34:38) ±Game: pokemonwelove rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:34:39) ±Game: Sehun rotoms obey to kyubey!
    (20:34:39) ±Game: the King Dedede rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:34:41) +Fuzzy: Raikou has 4 points in his face, Entei has 5, and Suicune has 6
    (20:34:41) ±Game: RiceKirby rotoms obey to kyubey!
    (20:34:42) ±Game: Fiefi3 rotoms pokemonwelove!
    (20:34:42) Marquis: vote obey to kyubey
    (20:34:45) ±Game: Pikachu Master rotoms obey to kyubey!
    (20:34:46) ±Game: Veteran Padgett rotoms obey to kyubey!
    (20:34:47) ±Game: obey to kyubey rotoms RiceKirby!
    (20:34:47) ±Game: HellobyexD rotoms obey to kyubey!
    (20:34:50) ±Game: Meloetta rotoms obey to kyubey!
    (20:34:51) Windblown: no fuk rice much poison
    (20:34:52) Sehun: scumbag kyubey
    (20:34:53) obey to kyubey: you too are a fan rotom Marquis
    (20:34:53) RiceKirby: Fan daykills, Sehun, not Mow
    (20:34:53) Marquis: is fan, PMed me, I was converted
    (20:34:57) Meloetta: has fuzzy gone mad?
    (20:34:58) Marquis: I'm frost now
    (20:35:00) Sehun: oh
    (20:35:02) RiceKirby: :(
    (20:35:02) Marquis: hahahahaahahah betrayal
    (20:35:03) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:03) Times Up! :
    (20:35:04) ±Motor: obey to kyubey (Fan Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:35:04) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:04) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:35:04) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, RiceKirby, Sehun, Sky Sentinel, Veteran Padgett, Windblown, meeps, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:35:04) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:35:05) ±Time: Night 4
    (20:35:05) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:35:05) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:07) meeps: hi
    (20:35:08) Windblown: I'm dying
    (20:35:10) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***
    (20:35:10) ±Role: Frost Rotom
    (20:35:10) ±Ability: Can convert one person to Frost Rotom every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading daykills. Sided with Refrigerators.
    (20:35:10) ±Players: Players
    (20:35:11) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***

    (20:35:13) Sehun: time for my last stand rice
    (20:35:13) Windblown: I give my frost legacy to user PIA
    (20:35:14) Sehun: >:(
    (20:35:15) Marquis: irl or what
    (20:35:18) Windblown: yes
    (20:35:22) ±Game: You have chosen to inspect Meloetta!
    (20:35:22) Windblown: save me obi wan kenobi
    (20:35:24) Windblown: you're my only hope
    (20:35:24) Marquis: frosting Veteran Padgett
    (20:35:25) PIA: thank you Windblown
    (20:35:25) RiceKirby: You got me, you get poisoned
    (20:35:27) Fiefi3: Kill the rotoms, before they get those 10 kills x_x
    (20:35:29) Veteran Padgett: might as well
    (20:35:29) RiceKirby: *You vote me
    (20:35:30) Windblown: get rice too omfg
    (20:35:33) Marquis: i like frosting btw
    (20:35:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:33) Times Up! :
    (20:35:33) ±Game: A Fan Rotom was cooled until it became a Frost Rotom!
    (20:35:33) ±Game: You have 0 charges remaining
    (20:35:33) ±Info: Meloetta is the Frost Rotom!!
    (20:35:33) ±Motor: Windblown (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:35:33) ±Motor: Sehun (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:35:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:33) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Mow Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:35:33) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, HellobyexD, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, RiceKirby, Sky Sentinel, Veteran Padgett, meeps, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:35:33) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (20:35:33) ±Time: Day 4
    (20:35:33) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:35:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:34) Marquis: yum
    (20:35:34) Windblown: noo
    (20:35:39) Veteran Padgett: yes i am frost
    (20:35:40) pokemonwelove: Poisoned :(
    (20:35:41) Sky Sentinel: e_e
    (20:35:42) Pikachu Master: Dat Frost hate.
    (20:35:43) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:43) ±Game: A Fan Rotom's wind blew HellobyexD away!
    (20:35:43) ±Motor: HellobyexD (Wash Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:35:43) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:45) Meloetta: Fiefi3 is Wash
    (20:35:49) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:49) ±Game: A Fan Rotom's wind blew Sky Sentinel away!
    (20:35:49) ±Motor: Sky Sentinel (Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:35:49) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:35:50) pokemonwelove: Let me rand Im poisoned
    (20:35:50) Fiefi3: I am xD
    (20:35:52) Sky Sentinel: BALLS
    (20:35:55) meeps: poisoned
    (20:35:55) Fiefi3: Other wash pm me
    (20:35:57) meeps: perfect reason to rand
    (20:36:00) RiceKirby: Rotoms should come to my side
    (20:36:01) Fiefi3: Other wash pm me!
    (20:36:03) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:36:03) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Mow Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:36:03) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, RiceKirby, Veteran Padgett, meeps, pokemonwelove, the King Dedede.
    (20:36:03) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom
    (20:36:03) ±Time: Day 4
    (20:36:03) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:36:03) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:36:07) ±Game: Veteran Padgett rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:36:07) ±Game: pokemonwelove rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:36:07) Pikachu Master: We're all Rotoms.
    (20:36:10) ±Game: Fiefi3 rotoms pokemonwelove!
    (20:36:11) ±Game: Pikachu Master rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:36:11) ±Game: RiceKirby rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:36:13) pokemonwelove: Rotom PM
    (20:36:13) Fiefi3: Other wash don;t vote
    (20:36:15) ±Game: Marquis rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:36:16) RiceKirby: I mean the normal Rotoms
    (20:36:18) ±Game: Meloetta rotoms Fiefi3!
    (20:36:20) Pikachu Master: Oh.
    (20:36:24) Marquis: wash, vote Fiefi3 he is heat
    (20:36:33) Fiefi3: Other wash don;t vote me
    (20:36:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:36:33) Times Up! :
    (20:36:33) ±Motor: pokemonwelove (Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:36:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:36:33) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Mow Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:36:33) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, RiceKirby, Veteran Padgett, meeps, the King Dedede.
    (20:36:33) ±Current Team: Rotom
    (20:36:34) ±Time: Night 5
    (20:36:34) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:36:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:36:38) PIA: rip
    (20:36:39) Fiefi3: Thank you wash ,-,
    (20:36:42) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***
    (20:36:42) ±Role: Fan Rotom
    (20:36:42) ±Ability: Can kill one person during the standby (after 2 days, concealed). Has a 50% chance of evading nightkills. Sided with Electric Fans.
    (20:36:42) ±Players: Players
    (20:36:42) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***
    (20:36:42) ±Role: Frost Rotom
    (20:36:42) ±Ability: Can convert one person to Frost Rotom every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading daykills. Sided with Refrigerators.
    (20:36:42) ±Players: Players
    (20:36:42) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***
    (20:36:42) ±Role: Heat Rotom
    (20:36:42) ±Ability: Can poison 2 persons during the night. Has a 50% chance of evading conversions. Sided with Microwave Ovens.
    (20:36:43) ±Players: Players
    (20:36:43) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***
    (20:36:43) ±Role: Mow Rotom
    (20:36:43) ±Ability: Can kill one person during the night. Has a 50% chance of evading distract. Sided with Lawnmowers.
    (20:36:43) ±Players: Players
    (20:36:43) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***
    (20:36:43) ±Role: Rotom
    (20:36:43) ±Ability: Can transform itself into Mow, Wash, Heat, Frost or Fan Rotom. Can inspect twice during the game. Can kill 10 times after Night 7. Sided with Rotom.
    (20:36:43) ±Players: 1-60 Players
    (20:36:43) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***
    (20:36:43) ±Role: Wash Rotom
    (20:36:43) ±Ability: Vote counts as 15. Can distract one person every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading poison. Sided with Washing Machines.
    (20:36:43) ±Players: Players
    (20:36:43) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***

    (20:36:48) Pikachu Master: Welp, we've found our Kuja.
    (20:37:00) Fiefi3: Dying now :c
    (20:37:05) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:05) Times Up! :
    (20:37:05) ±Game: A Fan Rotom was cooled until it became a Frost Rotom!
    (20:37:05) No one died! :
    (20:37:05) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:05) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Mow Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:37:05) ±Current Players: Fiefi3, Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, RiceKirby, Veteran Padgett, meeps, the King Dedede.
    (20:37:05) ±Current Team: Rotom
    (20:37:05) ±Time: Day 5
    (20:37:05) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:37:05) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:05) RiceKirby: Cool, I know both Washes
    (20:37:08) RiceKirby: Not poisoning them
    (20:37:09) Marquis: ./eat Fiefi3
    (20:37:11) PIA: ugh
    (20:37:14) Fiefi3: Ohhhh noooo
    (20:37:15) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***
    (20:37:15) ±Role: Frost Rotom
    (20:37:15) ±Ability: Can convert one person to Frost Rotom every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading daykills. Sided with Refrigerators.
    (20:37:15) ±Players: Players
    (20:37:15) *** ************************************************** ********************* ***

    (20:37:16) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:16) ±Game: A Fan Rotom's wind blew RiceKirby away!
    (20:37:16) ±Motor: RiceKirby (Heat Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:37:16) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:24) Marquis: fan, kill Fiefi3 pls
    (20:37:27) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:27) ±Game: A Fan Rotom's wind blew Fiefi3 away!
    (20:37:27) ±Motor: Fiefi3 (Wash Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:37:27) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:29) Veteran Padgett: heat smh
    (20:37:29) Marquis: ty
    (20:37:33) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:33) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Mow Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:37:34) ±Current Players: Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Veteran Padgett, meeps, the King Dedede.
    (20:37:34) ±Current Team: Rotom
    (20:37:34) ±Time: Day 5
    (20:37:34) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:37:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:37:43) Marquis: who is not frost?
    (20:37:46) PIA: wat do
    (20:37:47) Veteran Padgett: meeps?
    (20:37:49) Pikachu Master: I am not a Frist.
    (20:37:50) Meloetta: idk
    (20:37:52) Marquis: ok
    (20:37:54) meeps: is dog
    (20:37:56) meeps: tom
    (20:37:56) ±Game: Marquis rotoms meeps!
    (20:37:57) ±Game: Veteran Padgett rotoms meeps!
    (20:38:02) ±Game: Meloetta rotoms meeps!
    (20:38:03) meeps: i killed two wash
    (20:38:05) meeps: thank me pls
    (20:38:08) Marquis: meeps not cute anymore imo
    (20:38:10) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:38:10) Times Up! :
    (20:38:10) ±Motor: meeps (Fan Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:38:10) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:38:10) ±Current Roles: Fan Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Mow Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (20:38:10) ±Current Players: Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Pikachu Master, Pnz0r, Veteran Padgett, the King Dedede.
    (20:38:10) ±Current Team: Rotom
    (20:38:10) ±Time: Night 6
    (20:38:10) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:38:11) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:38:11) ±Game: You cannot use this action for 1 night(s)!
    (20:38:16) Pikachu Master: Poisoned Fan out.
    (20:38:23) Marquis: converting the King Dedede
    (20:38:28) the King Dedede: :c nuuuu
    (20:38:34) Marquis: you'll win with us pls
    (20:38:39) the King Dedede: :x nuuuuu
    (20:38:40) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:38:40) Times Up! :
    (20:38:40) ±Game: A Wash Rotom was cooled until it became a Frost Rotom!
    (20:38:40) ±Game: A Mow Rotom was cooled until it became a Frost Rotom!
    (20:38:40) ±Motor: Pikachu Master (Fan Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:38:40) ±Motor: Pnz0r (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:38:40) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:38:40) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Rotom.
    (20:38:40) ±Current Players: Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Veteran Padgett, the King Dedede.
    (20:38:41) ±Current Team: Rotom
    (20:38:41) ±Time: Day 6
    (20:38:41) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:38:41) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:38:44) the King Dedede: pfffffff
    (20:38:45) the King Dedede: pffff
    (20:38:46) PIA: Ha
    (20:38:50) Meloetta: Rotom can win
    (20:38:51) Marquis: hm
    (20:38:53) the King Dedede: :c
    (20:38:53) Meloetta: If we dont get him
    (20:38:57) Marquis: rotom, claim
    (20:39:05) Marquis:Matt Ayala?
    (20:39:08) Matt Ayala: No
    (20:39:10) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:39:10) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Rotom.
    (20:39:10) ±Current Players: Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Veteran Padgett, the King Dedede.
    (20:39:10) ±Current Team: Rotom
    (20:39:10) ±Time: Day 6
    (20:39:10) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
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    (20:39:11) Matt Ayala: I am frost
    (20:39:13) the King Dedede: :c whoever is afk
    (20:39:14) Matt Ayala: Meloetta knows
    (20:39:14) Meloetta: he is
    (20:39:17) Meloetta: I inspected him
    (20:39:21) ±Game: Veteran Padgett rotoms the King Dedede!
    (20:39:24) Marquis: no
    (20:39:25) ±Game: Matt Ayala rotoms the King Dedede!
    (20:39:26) Veteran Padgett: on
    (20:39:27) Marquis: I converted him
    (20:39:27) Veteran Padgett: oh
    (20:39:29) ±Game: Marquis rotoms Meloetta!
    (20:39:30) Marquis: tie
    (20:39:31) Matt Ayala: Ouch.
    (20:39:32) ±Game: the King Dedede rotoms Meloetta!
    (20:39:32) Veteran Padgett: what
    (20:39:33) ±Game: Meloetta rotoms PIA!
    (20:39:34) the King Dedede: :c
    (20:39:36) Meloetta: ..
    (20:39:36) Matt Ayala: DONT TIE
    (20:39:37) Veteran Padgett: pia is frost
    (20:39:39) PIA: much confusion
    (20:39:40) ************************************************** *************************************
    (20:39:40) Times Up! :
    (20:39:40) No one was voted off! :
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    (20:39:40) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Rotom.
    (20:39:41) ±Current Players: Marquis, Matt Ayala, Meloetta, PIA, Veteran Padgett, the King Dedede.
    (20:39:41) ±Current Team: Rotom
    (20:39:41) ±Time: Night 7
    (20:39:41) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
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    (20:39:41) Veteran Padgett: marquis is frost
    (20:39:43) Meloetta: welp
    (20:39:43) ±Game: You have chosen to shock Marquis!
    (20:39:43) ±Game: Your target(s) are Marquis!
    (20:39:44) Meloetta: Rotom wins
    (20:39:46) ±Game: You have chosen to shock Meloetta!
    (20:39:47) ±Game: Your target(s) are Marquis, Meloetta!
    (20:39:48) ±Game: You have chosen to shock PIA!
    (20:39:48) ±Game: Your target(s) are Marquis, Meloetta, PIA!
    (20:39:49) Veteran Padgett: so if matt and meloetta are frost
    (20:39:52) ±Game: You have chosen to shock Veteran Padgett!
    (20:39:52) ±Game: Your target(s) are Marquis, Meloetta, PIA, Veteran Padgett!
    (20:39:53) Marquis: wait
    (20:39:53) Meloetta: Veteran Padgett coouuldnt be converted
    (20:39:55) ±Game: You have chosen to shock the King Dedede!
    (20:39:56) ±Game: Your target(s) are Marquis, Meloetta, PIA, Veteran Padgett, the King Dedede!
    (20:39:57) the King Dedede: :c welp wash wins
    (20:40:03) Matt Ayala: He's prob rotom
    (20:40:04) Veteran Padgett: <no wash
    (20:40:05) Marquis: convert Meloetta or Matt Ayala
    (20:40:06) Marquis: ?
    (20:40:08) PIA: >wash
    (20:40:09) Meloetta: ....
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    (20:40:10) Times Up! :
    (20:40:10) ±Game: Your target (Marquis) died electrified!
    (20:40:10) ±Motor: Marquis (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:40:11) ±Game: Your target (Meloetta) died electrified!
    (20:40:11) ±Motor: Meloetta (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:40:11) ±Game: Your target (PIA) died electrified!
    (20:40:11) ±Motor: PIA (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:40:11) ±Game: Your target (Veteran Padgett) died electrified!
    (20:40:11) ±Motor: Veteran Padgett (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:40:11) ±Game: Your target (the King Dedede) died electrified!
    (20:40:11) ±Motor: the King Dedede (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (20:40:11) *** O.O *** The Normal Rotoms won?!?! How the hell did Matt Ayala do that?
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    (20:40:14) RiceKirby: lol

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    (20:40:14) ±Game: meeps started a game with theme Body!
    (20:40:14) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
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    (20:40:14) ±Game: Welcome to the fight that happens every day inside our bodies: our body defending itself against diseases. Some genetic diseases are harming our body and they are almost unstoppable late game. There are some psychological diseases that can make you go crazy! There are some bacterial ones who are hard to get rid of because of their sporulation. Rabies is hardly stopped when its incubation time ends... (Suggestions or problems? PM Li Q. Assir or post here: http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?16448-Body )
    (20:40:14) ±Game: meeps joined the game!
    (20:40:15) Matt Ayala: WOOT
    (20:40:16) +RedJoker25: gratz
    (20:40:17) Marquis: see wtf
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    (20:40:18) Rick Gastley: Best ending
    (20:40:18) Meloetta: damn
    (20:40:18) BajanCanadian: LMFAO
    (20:40:18) Windblown: lmfao
    (20:40:18) Rick Gastley: ahaha
    (20:40:19) Sky Sentinel:MATT AYALA is JESUS
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    (20:40:26) Veteran Padgett: melo what
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    (20:40:27) Pikachu Master: ./starttheme PokeScum
    (20:40:27) RiceKirby: First game, 22 players, normal Rotom wins
    (20:40:28) Sehun: so much for inspecting him Meloetta
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    (20:40:33) Meloetta: idk
    (20:40:35) BajanCanadian: im done
    (20:40:37) Matt Ayala: I know how to play Rotom. :)
    (20:40:39) BajanCanadian: i wish i joined
    (20:40:42) Matt Ayala: I told Meloetta
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    (20:40:43) Pikachu Master: What madness be this?

    (20:40:43) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (20:40:44) Matt Ayala: He confirmed me
    (20:40:45) RiceKirby: And I derped, I shouldn't have poisoned Pikachu Master :x
    (20:40:46) ±Game: You already joined!
    (20:40:46) Marquis: Meloetta y u do this
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    (20:40:49) iEepck: (20:30:58) ±QueryBot: iEepck was last seen: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 21:04:26 GMT
    (20:40:51) Blaziken Killer:Matt Ayala best rotom
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  20. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Second log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xp619a3m4gl2o0a/Rotom_2013.11.20_01.16.txt
    Yeah, Frost will need some nerf, so I'm doing what I said in my last post (Frost evade Frost to prevent connecting by crossfire, and Wash can distract every night).
    BTW, one of the reasons Frost is too strong is the lack of people going Mow or Heat. They are the most effective forms to beat Frost, since Frosts evade 50% of Fans' daykill and all Washes together can only take down 1 opponent per turn.

    3rd Log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/88etp71jzodfosi/Rotom_2013.11.20_02.20.txt

    Another one: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1fu8ho8ns1i0wo/Rotom_2013.11.20_21.22.txt
    People using their inspections to find the major threats, some bluffs (2 people accused of being Fan when only 1 Fan was alive), people ignoring the fact that some people got revealed D1 and D3 and lived until the end and more mysteries in yet another chapter of Rotom theme.

    35 Players game (And I was not around =( ): https://www.dropbox.com/s/kb2pw2e898n22g8/Rotom_2013.11.20_23.22.txt
    Should I reduce the /shock's limit to 5 kills instead of 10?
     
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  21. Fate Testarossa

    Fate Testarossa Unbreakable Bond

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    The "help" part of the code needs to be updated for every Rotom. Every Rotom can inspect, but only the regular Rotoms are told that they can inspect.
     
  22. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    Wash Rotom's are still too strong, I suggest giving something weaker to have a 50% chance to have a voteshield of 50% or something. Anyways Washers are still ruling the theme for what I've seen.
     
  23. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Original Rotom makes it clear that they can inspect even after changing forms. That's more like a theme's rule than a role's rule. If people REALLY miss it so much, I could add, but IMO that would be like adding "Village loses if all Warriors die" to all roles in Weapons.

    Log from the game you probably saw (27 players): https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1lgojzh8itncej/Rotom_2013.11.21_00.45.txt
    It's easy to dominate when 1/3 of the players go to that form N1. Also, there's not really a need to put a check on them since that already exists, AKA Mow Rotom. If you look through the logs, the side that dominates is not only the one with more people converting to, but also the one with less people converting to their check form.
     
  24. Fate Testarossa

    Fate Testarossa Unbreakable Bond

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    Original Rotom makes it clear that they can inspect even after changing forms. That's more like a theme's rule than a role's rule. If people REALLY miss it so much, I could add, but IMO that would be like adding "Village loses if all Warriors die" to all roles in Weapons.

    Sorry about that, I wasn't paying attention. Yeah, you're right.
     
  25. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    I do what I want. Also, based on the games I've seen, it massively increases participation rate, which tends to stick around for a few themes after. Changes were made to make it less of a killfest, but still fun and exciting. Blah blah, castlethreadarguments.txt

    If anyone wants to object to this: PM me on here or the server. But everyone loves Rotom.
     
  26. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    I have an objection: the increase in number of players could be just nostalgia and fade away after a while.
    ...Wait, why am I objecting to my theme being approved again?

    On a more serious note, balance discussion:
    My theory so far is that the side that dominates is not simply the one that gets more people, but the one with a good balance between checks/players. 5 Wash are dangerous, but not that much if there are 5 Mows.

    That said, Frost and Wash are still getting better win numbers than other forms. Part of it is due to how almost no one goes Heat and Mow (their counters, respectively), but I want to have some options in case I need to nerf them, so suggestions/opinions are appreciated.

    If I need to nerf Frost: the first idea is to have players that are converted by Frost have an initialrecharge 2, so they unable to convert another person right after being converted. Fail Chance is not going to be used.
    If I need to nerf Wash: the idea is to somehow limit their distracts (once every 2 nights, or only 3 times per game), or alternatively give Mows a chance to receive a -30 voteshield.

    I'm not going to nerf them yet though. I want to watch more games and see if the theory of a role getting better when people decide to choose it to counter another popular choice actually occurs.
     
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  27. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Personally, what I think you should do is let the Heats kill Frosts trying to convert them. Might be a little bit more of a fun idea instead of them just poisoning. And as for Mows, let them have the voteshield. Heats and Mows really need the boosts. At this point, Fan, Frost, and Wash are all viable while those two are just left behind.
     
  28. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    This wouldn't work. An important part of Rotom is that all forms should have some way to beat any other form (although some should be harder than others), so this suggestion would make Frosts unable to completely unable to beat Heat.

    Also, one of the reasons Mow and Heat are behind is the lack of support. I still didn't see a game where Mows or Heats had more players at D1 than the other converted Forms, so it's not surprising they are having a harder time. If I really need to change something, I'd rather nerf Wash and Frost, since buffing other roles could easily get out of hand. Fan doesn't need a nerf, since, if you think about it, there's a decent balance between Fan, Mow and Heat since they are all offensive roles, so the problem is with Wash (defensive) and Frost (constructive).
     
  29. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    After watching some more games, my conclusion is that a Frost and Wash nerf is going to be necessary. Earlier today there was a game where lots of people went Heat, and yet Frost won in the end. Sure, it's just one game, and it could be said Heat missed the chance to win at the last vote, but the point is that Heats were not able to do their job of countering Frosts as well as intended through the game.

    Before nerfing, I wanted to make an analysis on the roles and their weak and strong points.

    Mow Rotom (nightkill) is the classic, quick attacker. Get a good clean kill that cannot be stopped by Wash, and if hitting the right person, can prevent them from poisoning or converting someone.
    Heat Rotom (poison) is a long-term attacker. It's the form that takes more time to get its first opponent out, but if you think about an ideal situation where there are 3 players for each form, Heat will be tied with Fan and Mow in the number of opponents beaten by D3, but will have a higher kill count as the turns passes.
    Fan Rotom (daykill) is an efficient attacker. Cannot be distracted, and their kills cannot overlap with other Fans' kill. On the other hand, they are slower than Mows, only being able to kill at D2 (while Mows can kill N2).
    Wash Rotom (15 votes + distract) is the defensive form. It's the form that can get the first kill (as soon as D1, while all other forms need to wait for N2), but no matter how many players change into Wash, they can only take out 1 opponent per turn.
    Frost Rotom (recruiter) is the construtive form. Instead of merely reducing the other teams' size, it also increase its own, building a number of players domination.

    When you look at the counters to each form, some interesting details are the following:
    -Normal Rotoms are a natural counter to Wash. If too many people keep as Normal, Wash by themselves may not be able to take them all out by N7.
    -Since Frost works by increasing their numbers, Heat is twice a good counter not only for evading, but because they get 2 poisons per night to cope with Frost's increasing numbers.
    -While Mows are the counter for Wash, Fans are also as efficient against them due to only having standby actions.
    -In theory, the attacking forms (Mow, Heat and Fan) are well balanced among them. Mow gets the speed, Fan avoids the overlapping targets, while Heat doesn't have any of those, but gets to poison 2 targets per turn. The problem comes with Wash and Frost that have a different dynamic.

    Given all those information that probably no one is reading at this point, some points that may need modifications are the following:
    -Fan Rotoms get an extra advantage due to avoiding distraction even better than Mows. A solution would be make Wash's /distract also convert Fans into a role that cannot daykill for a turn (similar to Castle's Enchantress).
    -Wash have an advantage of having 2 powers (votes and distract), yet they are full of counters (Fan, Mows and normal Rotoms). It's hard to tell if they need a nerf or a buff, but if the point above applied (Fan distractable), then a way to balance it would be giving Mow a resistance to Wash's votes, something like a 50% chance of -50 voteshield. The potential issue that comes with it is that Mows would also gain a natural resistance to any other form that has the majority of players. Alternatively, since Mows only evade a non-killing power, I could change their Distract evasion to 100%.
    -Frost have 3 advantages over all other forms: 1) It not only reduces the opponent's number, but it does that while increasing their own; 2) Frosts are immune to team-targetting. When a Frost hits another one, they miss their action, but they don't lose a partner; 3) Frosts get an extra, natural way of connecting by simply PMing the person they converted. Points 2 and 3 are simply impossible to change due to the nature of the role, so the most viable way to nerf them is by slowing down the rate which they can recruit. Some people often suggest FailChance, but for an action that already has recharge: 2 and has a 50% chance of missing if it hits a Heat, that would be far too frustrating. As such, a simple way to nerf it would be make it so that recruited Frosts have to wait 1 turn before they can recruit someone.
    -If all the above modifications are applied, we would see: Fans slightly nerfed; Mows nicely buffed; Frosts nerfed; Wash undefined (buffed for being able to distract Fans, nerfed for getting weaker against Mow). Heats wouldn't change anything, but they are the side that has been winning the least. Of course, with 3 of the other sides nerfed, that could be enough for Heat to stand a better chance, but one of the other forms would get a buff, so in theory Heat would need something else too (maybe make Frosts instantly die when poisoned?). Open to suggestions here.

    So, to any of the 0.4 persons that read the whole thing, this is the reasoning behind my decision of updating some roles. The update could take some more time, but it's definetely going to happen, so in the meantime, some feedback and opinions (especially regarding the Heat issue) would be appreciated.
     
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  30. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Why not just convert "flying" (Fan) into "flying" again? initialRecharge doesn't overlap when converting into the same (or likewise, new) role, now does it?

    I liked it better when Mow was daykiller and Fan was recruiter, etc. since Wash is the only role that hasn't drastically changed besides Rotom, but these changes are extremely good. Helps keep balance, too.

    Also, -50 voteshield seems like a really good idea, but when you take into account people vote for the -50 voteshield guy and he votes for someone else, he'll be written off as Wash. This however is a double edged sword because Washes can connect with him, sort of giving him a traitor property.

    With all the inspects flying around, I doubt that it would matter either way.
     
  31. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Updated Rotom with the following changes:
    -Mows now have a 50% chance for -60 Voteshield.
    -Fans can be distracted by Wash, becoming unable to daykill for a turn. (Thanks Matt for the idea of converting to the same role, I was overcomplicating this :x)
    -Players converted into Frost have to wait 1 turn before being able to convert.
    -Heat's poison instantly kills Frosts.

    Those changes are not definitive, and may be reverted if necessary. Feedback is appreciated.
     
  32. Cobalt

    Cobalt Embrace the Cold

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    This is very minor and probably only me who thinks this, but the fact that WashTom has a chance to beat MowTom 1v1with a distract is unfair. I know that's only a 50% chance of happening, but in another context, that's a 1/2 chance wash can beat Mow, even at night time. Why this bothers is because all these forms are designed to excel in their respective fields. WashTom already has the best attribute in the theme, and to top that off, you add a concept that let's Wash win even more. keep in mind WashTom wins most games. This is very minor but I wanted it to be addresed. Thanks. Give me your opinion on this if you could.
     
  33. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Except for the normal form, any form in Rotom should be able to defeat any other form. If I made Mows completely avoid Distraction, the complaint would be that it's unfair for Wash to be unable to stop Mow.
    Also, yesterday Mow was given a buff that allows it to have a better chance against Wash. If Wash can beat Mow at night, there's also a chance Mow can beat Wash in a vote now.
     
  34. ajhockeystar

    ajhockeystar Proud Canadian

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    Heat wins, bringing their wincount up to 4!

    [Secret](17:01:42) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:01:42) Times Up! :
    (17:01:42) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (17:01:42) ±Game: You are a Rotom!
    (17:01:42) ±Game: You can possess a machine and get a new power! Type /mow, /wash, /heat, /frost or /fan to change forms. Twice during the game (even after changing forms), you can type /inspect [name] at night to find someone's role. If you don't possess anything, you can use /shock [name] to kill up to 10 players after the 7th night!
    (17:01:42) ±Current Roles: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom.
    (17:01:42) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, BlackStar44, George V, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Slyie, Spartan112, Steam Baron, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar, my3dsbroke.
    (17:01:42) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (17:01:42) ±Time: Night 1
    (17:01:42) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:01:42) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:01:42) Steam Baron: Hai kids
    (17:01:48) Sugarcube: lag
    (17:01:49) Apollo Justice: rotom here rotom pm
    (17:01:49) my3dsbroke: all wash again?
    (17:01:50) my3dsbroke: XD
    (17:01:50) George V: howdy
    (17:01:52) Wr4et: not converting
    (17:01:57) Karp Karpity: staying the same
    (17:01:58) ±Game: You have chosen to inspect JhenMohran!
    (17:02:05) BobbySaysHi joined the channel.
    (17:02:07) BobbySaysHi left the channel.
    (17:02:10) BobbySaysHi joined the channel.
    (17:02:10) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (17:02:10) ±Role: Heat Rotom
    (17:02:10) ±Ability: Can poison 2 persons during the night. Has a 50% chance of evading conversions. Sided with Microwave Ovens.
    (17:02:10) ±Players: Players
    (17:02:10) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    (17:02:11) Sugarcube: normaling
    (17:02:12) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:02:12) Times Up! :
    (17:02:12) ±Game: You have 1 charges remaining
    (17:02:12) ±Info: JhenMohran is the Rotom!!
    (17:02:12) No one died! :
    (17:02:12) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:02:12) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (17:02:12) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, BlackStar44, George V, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Slyie, Spartan112, Steam Baron, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar, my3dsbroke.
    (17:02:12) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (17:02:12) ±Time: Day 1
    (17:02:12) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (17:02:12) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:02:18) my3dsbroke: lmao
    (17:02:18) Apollo Justice: Sugarcube is Heat
    (17:02:19) Wr4et: Spartan112 is rotom
    (17:02:20) my3dsbroke: only wash here
    (17:02:20) Wr4et: clean
    (17:02:21) Karp Karpity: damn
    (17:02:30) Spartan112: what are we doing
    (17:02:32) ajhockeystar: Let's bring dat heat wincount up and all go heat lol
    (17:02:39) ajhockeystar: They only have 3 wins
    (17:02:40) Steam Baron: get Sugarcube first
    (17:03:00) Little Mermaid joined the channel.
    (17:03:00) Wr4et: the lag
    (17:03:00) JhenMohran: ajhockeystar for wash 2013
    (17:03:00) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (17:03:00) ±Role: Fan Rotom
    (17:03:00) ±Ability: Can kill one person during the standby (after 2 days, concealed). Has a 50% chance of evading nightkills. Sided with Electric Fans.
    (17:03:00) ±Players: Players
    (17:03:00) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (17:03:00) ±Role: Frost Rotom
    (17:03:00) ±Ability: Can convert one person to Frost Rotom every 2 nights. Has a 50% chance of evading daykills. Instantly dies if poisoned. Sided with Refrigerators.
    (17:03:00) ±Players: Players
    (17:03:00) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (17:03:00) ±Role: Heat Rotom
    (17:03:00) ±Ability: Can poison 2 persons during the night. Has a 50% chance of evading conversions. Sided with Microwave Ovens.
    (17:03:00) ±Players: Players
    (17:03:00) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (17:03:00) ±Role: Mow Rotom
    (17:03:00) ±Ability: Can kill one person during the night. Has a 50% chance of evading distract. Has a 50% chance of receiving a voteshield of -60. Sided with Lawnmowers.
    (17:03:00) ±Players: Players
    (17:03:00) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (17:03:00) ±Role: Rotom
    (17:03:00) ±Ability: Can transform itself into Mow, Wash, Heat, Frost or Fan Rotom. Can inspect twice during the game. Can kill 10 times after Night 7. Sided with Rotom.
    (17:03:01) ±Players: 1-60 Players
    (17:03:01) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (17:03:01) ±Role: Wash Rotom
    (17:03:01) ±Ability: Vote counts as 15. Can distract one person for 1 turn. Has a 50% chance of evading poison. Sided with Washing Machines.
    (17:03:01) ±Players: Players
    (17:03:01) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (17:03:01) Little Mermaid left the channel.
    (17:03:01) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:03:01) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (17:03:01) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, BlackStar44, George V, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Slyie, Spartan112, Steam Baron, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar, my3dsbroke.
    (17:03:01) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (17:03:01) ±Time: Day 1
    (17:03:01) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:03:01) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:03:02) BobbySaysHi left the channel.
    (17:03:02) Steam Baron: lag
    (17:03:02) ±Game: George V rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:03:03) ±Game: my3dsbroke rotoms BlackStar44!
    (17:03:04) Apollo Justice: Eh, I might as well go Heat
    (17:03:10) ±Game: Steam Baron rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:03:10) ±Game: BlackStar44 rotoms my3dsbroke!
    (17:03:10) ±Game: Karp Karpity rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:03:10) ±Game: Nilon rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:03:11) Wr4et: is unbearably polar
    (17:03:15) ±Game: Apollo Justice rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:03:16) ±Game: AdelitaPower rotoms Apollo Justice!
    (17:03:18) Steam Baron: first heat is dying, better not do it Apollo Justice
    (17:03:18) AdelitaPower: wtf
    (17:03:21) KX joined the channel.
    (17:03:24) BlackStar44: hope my3dsbroke isnt wash
    (17:03:25) Spartan112: wtf
    (17:03:29) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:03:29) Times Up! :
    (17:03:29) ±Motor: BlackStar44 (Heat Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:03:29) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:03:29) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (17:03:29) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, George V, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Slyie, Spartan112, Steam Baron, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar, my3dsbroke.
    (17:03:29) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (17:03:29) ±Time: Night 2
    (17:03:29) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:03:29) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:03:31) ajhockeystar: Actually Jhen, I'm regular rotom atm
    (17:03:33) Karp Karpity: nice
    (17:03:34) Steam Baron: my3dsbroke is Wash
    (17:03:35) ajhockeystar: And so are you, I insped u
    (17:03:41) George V: inb4 heat death of the universe
    (17:03:42) Steam Baron: Sugarcube is the last heat
    (17:03:43) Nilon: Sweet!
    (17:03:49) Steam Baron: Fan on my3dsbroke
    (17:03:49) JhenMohran: :O
    (17:03:49) ±Game: You have chosen to inspect Karp Karpity!
    (17:03:53) Spartan112: rotom cut
    (17:03:53) ajhockeystar: I ain't converting yet
    (17:03:54) my3dsbroke: Noh
    (17:03:55) my3dsbroke: :(
    (17:03:58) ajhockeystar: But I'm still cheering for fan
    (17:03:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:03:59) Times Up! :
    (17:03:59) ±Game: A Wash Rotom was cooled until it became a Frost Rotom!
    (17:03:59) ±Game: You have 0 charges remaining
    (17:03:59) ±Info: Karp Karpity is the Rotom!!
    (17:03:59) No one died! :
    (17:03:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:03:59) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (17:03:59) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, George V, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Slyie, Spartan112, Steam Baron, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar, my3dsbroke.
    (17:03:59) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (17:03:59) ±Time: Day 2
    (17:03:59) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (17:03:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:04:00) ajhockeystar: *heat
    (17:04:04) Steam Baron: Sugarcube poisoned me
    (17:04:06) Wr4et: AdelitaPower is frost
    (17:04:07) Steam Baron: I hate you
    (17:04:07) Wr4et: !!
    (17:04:07) Spartan112: cut
    (17:04:08) my3dsbroke: poisoned
    (17:04:09) my3dsbroke: lol
    (17:04:11) AdelitaPower: DDD: ?!
    (17:04:12) Steam Baron: Also, Slyie is Heat too
    (17:04:18) Wr4et: frost must go
    (17:04:19) Tyrexinator left the channel.
    (17:04:20) JhenMohran: ajhockeystar still rotom as well?
    (17:04:21) Steam Baron: Death to Sugarcube cuz he poisoned me
    (17:04:23) ajhockeystar: Mhm
    (17:04:24) Sugarcube: frost is worse
    (17:04:25) ajhockeystar: And so is Karp
    (17:04:26) JhenMohran: thats cool
    (17:04:27) AdelitaPower: wtf :C ?!?!
    (17:04:27) Steam Baron: Repeating, death to Sugarcube
    (17:04:29) Karp Karpity: ?
    (17:04:30) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:04:30) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (17:04:30) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, George V, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Slyie, Spartan112, Steam Baron, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar, my3dsbroke.
    (17:04:30) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (17:04:30) ±Time: Day 2
    (17:04:30) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:04:30) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:04:31) Nilon: #GetSuger
    (17:04:32) Slyie: I didn't poison no one :c
    (17:04:32) Karp Karpity: im rotom
    (17:04:32) ±Game: Steam Baron rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:04:34) ajhockeystar: We're unconverted
    (17:04:34) JhenMohran: same!
    (17:04:35) ±Game: George V rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:04:36) ajhockeystar: Ya
    (17:04:36) ±Game: Nilon rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:04:37) ajhockeystar: :D
    (17:04:38) ±Game: Apollo Justice rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:04:38) ±Game: my3dsbroke rotoms Slyie!
    (17:04:38) Sugarcube: katy perey is frost
    (17:04:44) ±Game: Sugarcube rotoms Katy Perry!
    (17:04:45) ±Game: AdelitaPower rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:04:47) ±Game: ajhockeystar rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:04:49) Steam Baron: my3dsbroke plz
    (17:04:51) Steam Baron: U supposed to vote Sugarcube
    (17:04:53) ajhockeystar: lel
    (17:04:53) Spartan112: sugarcube
    (17:04:55) Sugarcube: 3ds vote frost
    (17:05:00) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:05:00) Times Up! :
    (17:05:00) ±Motor: Slyie (Heat Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:05:00) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:05:00) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Wash Rotom.
    (17:05:00) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, George V, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Spartan112, Steam Baron, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar, my3dsbroke.
    (17:05:00) ±Current Team: Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom
    (17:05:00) ±Time: Night 3
    (17:05:00) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:05:00) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:05:02) my3dsbroke: im messing the game up since im poisoned
    (17:05:03) Karp Karpity: lol
    (17:05:11) Steam Baron: I inspected Slyie as heat too
    (17:05:13) Steam Baron: Frost better win this
    (17:05:16) Steam Baron: f'k the heat
    (17:05:16) my3dsbroke: kk gg dieng from poison
    (17:05:16) ajhockeystar: You keep getting heats out anyways
    (17:05:17) ajhockeystar: lol
    (17:05:19) ±Game: You have chosen to heat ajhockeystar!
    (17:05:22) Wr4et: guys, AdelitaPower is frost
    (17:05:24) Wr4et: remember that
    (17:05:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:05:32) Times Up! :
    (17:05:32) ±Game: You have been converted and changed roles!
    (17:05:32) ±Game: You are a Heat Rotom!
    (17:05:32) ±Game: You possessed a Microwave Oven! You can type /poison [name] twice during the night to kill your targets during the next night. And you have a 50% chance of evading conversions.
    (17:05:32) ±Motor: George V (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:05:32) ±Motor: my3dsbroke (Wash Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:05:32) ±Motor: Spartan112 (Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:05:32) ±Motor: Steam Baron (Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:05:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:05:32) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom.
    (17:05:32) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar.
    (17:05:32) ±Current Team: Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom
    (17:05:32) ±Time: Day 3
    (17:05:33) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (17:05:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:05:33) AdelitaPower: D: ?
    (17:05:33) ±Dratini: Teh Pedo Bear was muted by W​riggle Nightbug for 4 hours! [Reason: Rule 5, don't be inappropriate in chat or towards other users and read the /rules] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (17:05:36) AdelitaPower: i dont know this game
    (17:05:37) Karp Karpity: damn
    (17:05:37) JhenMohran: Apollo Justice is Frost
    (17:05:47) Nilon: Poisoned. get Sugarcube
    (17:05:54) Apollo Justice: ^
    (17:05:54) Sugarcube: get the frost first
    (17:05:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:05:59) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom.
    (17:05:59) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Sugarcube, Wr4et, ajhockeystar.
    (17:05:59) ±Current Team: Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom
    (17:05:59) ±Time: Day 3
    (17:05:59) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:05:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:05:59) AdelitaPower: frost?
    (17:06:00) Sugarcube: frosts are danger
    (17:06:00) Wr4et: frost spreads fast
    (17:06:00) Wr4et: js
    (17:06:06) AdelitaPower: gad xD
    (17:06:08) ±Game: Apollo Justice rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:06:12) ±Game: Sugarcube rotoms Apollo Justice!
    (17:06:13) ±Game: AdelitaPower rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:06:15) ajhockeystar: Who is the frost
    (17:06:17) ±Game: Wr4et rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:06:20) ±Game: Nilon rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:06:20) Sugarcube: apollo
    (17:06:22) ±Game: Karp Karpity rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:06:23) ajhockeystar: ah
    (17:06:24) Wr4et: AdelitaPower and Apollo Justice
    (17:06:25) ±Game: ajhockeystar rotoms Sugarcube!
    (17:06:27) AdelitaPower: D:
    (17:06:31) AdelitaPower: who is frost?
    (17:06:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:06:32) Times Up! :
    (17:06:32) ±Motor: Sugarcube (Heat Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:06:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:06:32) ±Current Roles: Frost Rotom, Frost Rotom, Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom.
    (17:06:32) ±Current Players: AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice, JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Nilon, Wr4et, ajhockeystar.
    (17:06:32) ±Current Team: Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom
    (17:06:32) ±Time: Night 4
    (17:06:32) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:06:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:06:34) AdelitaPower: what is it?
    (17:06:36) ±Game: You have chosen to poison AdelitaPower!
    (17:06:36) ±Game: Your target(s) are AdelitaPower!
    (17:06:38) JhenMohran: welp im out of inspects
    (17:06:39) ±Game: You have chosen to poison Apollo Justice!
    (17:06:39) ±Game: Your target(s) are AdelitaPower, Apollo Justice!
    (17:06:43) ajhockeystar: Me2 :/
    (17:06:44) Nilon: Im dead. GG.
    (17:06:49) Apollo Justice: What can I say, I'm just too cool
    (17:06:49) ajhockeystar: #RegularRotom
    (17:06:50) Nilon: Reg Rotom out.
    (17:07:02) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:07:02) Times Up! :
    (17:07:02) ±Game: Your target (AdelitaPower) melted instantly from your heat!
    (17:07:02) ±Motor: AdelitaPower (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:07:02) ±Game: Your target (Apollo Justice) melted instantly from your heat!
    (17:07:02) ±Motor: Apollo Justice (Frost Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:07:02) ±Motor: Nilon (Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:07:02) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:07:02) ±Current Roles: Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom.
    (17:07:02) ±Current Players: JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Wr4et, ajhockeystar.
    (17:07:02) ±Current Team: Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom
    (17:07:02) ±Time: Day 4
    (17:07:03) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (17:07:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:07:07) Karp Karpity: poisoned
    (17:07:12) Karp Karpity: rotom here
    (17:07:22) ajhockeystar: Same
    (17:07:22) JhenMohran: Karp Karpity ajhockeystar JhenMohran lets do this
    (17:07:26) ajhockeystar: Lgi :D
    (17:07:27) Wr4et: so, I would very much like to convert
    (17:07:30) Sov joined the channel.
    (17:07:31) Zidane FFIX left the channel.
    (17:07:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:07:32) ±Current Roles: Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom.
    (17:07:32) ±Current Players: JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Katy Perry, Wr4et, ajhockeystar.
    (17:07:32) ±Current Team: Heat Rotom, Heat Rotom
    (17:07:32) ±Time: Day 4
    (17:07:32) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:07:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:07:34) Wr4et: hey, i'm normal rotom
    (17:07:35) Spartan112 left the channel.
    (17:07:39) ±Game: Karp Karpity rotoms Katy Perry!
    (17:07:39) ajhockeystar: No u aint
    (17:07:44) ±Game: ajhockeystar rotoms Katy Perry!
    (17:07:44) Wr4et: yes I am
    (17:07:45) ±Game: JhenMohran rotoms Katy Perry!
    (17:07:47) JhenMohran: lets go
    (17:07:48) ±Game: Wr4et rotoms Katy Perry!
    (17:07:50) Katy Perry: Why did Jhen tab his own name though
    (17:07:51) Katy Perry: idgi
    (17:07:56) JhenMohran: i dunno
    (17:07:57) ±Game: Katy Perry rotoms JhenMohran!
    (17:07:57) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:07:57) Times Up! :
    (17:07:57) ±Motor: Katy Perry (Heat Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:07:57) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:07:57) ±Current Roles: Heat Rotom, Rotom, Rotom, Rotom.
    (17:07:57) ±Current Players: JhenMohran, Karp Karpity, Wr4et, ajhockeystar.
    (17:07:57) ±Current Team: Heat Rotom
    (17:07:57) ±Time: Night 5
    (17:07:57) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (17:07:57) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:08:03) Wr4et: wait.. so are we converting?
    (17:08:04) JhenMohran: everyone to heat?
    (17:08:05) Wr4et: to heat?
    (17:08:08) JhenMohran: never!
    (17:08:10) ±Game: You have chosen to poison JhenMohran!
    (17:08:10) ±Game: Your target(s) are JhenMohran!
    (17:08:11) Wr4et: okie let's do it
    (17:08:12) JhenMohran: Stayin rotom
    (17:08:13) ±Game: You have chosen to poison Wr4et!
    (17:08:13) ±Game: Your target(s) are JhenMohran, Wr4et!
    (17:08:16) Karp Karpity: im dead
    (17:08:17) Karp Karpity: gl
    (17:08:26) ajhockeystar: #RegularRotomFTW
    (17:08:27) ***************************************************************************************
    (17:08:27) Times Up! :
    (17:08:27) ±Game: Your target (JhenMohran) was poisoned!
    (17:08:27) ±Game: Your target (Wr4et) was poisoned!
    (17:08:27) ±Motor: Karp Karpity (Heat Rotom) disappeared!
    (17:08:27) Suddenly, all Microwave Ovens in the city started moving on its own! I bet this is ajhockeystar, Wr4et and JhenMohran's prank!:
    (17:08:27) ***************************************************************************************[/Secret]
     
  35. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    Sky Sentinel
    (09:01:54) Ninja Assassin: i wa swash roto
    (09:02:01) Ninja Assassin: (19:31:12) The ~Distracter~ tried to clean you, but you are not even dirty!

    I've no idea why this happened because that's the right thing, but you should be able to just change it to Wash Rotom instead of ~Distracter~...
     
  36. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    RiceKirby
    Or I can simply remove that message.
    EvadeChance has no message sent to the distracted player. That message was being sent to the Wash when they distracted a Mow. I will remove that for now, and maybe submit targetmsg for evadeChance to mafia scripts later.
     
  37. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    I don't think the explanation behind the new Rotom mechanics was explained here, so I'll ask here. Why are Rotoms basically forced to convert by night 3 now?
     
  38. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Because we were getting to the point where 18 players would join the game but only 1 would convert N1. If people don't convert, the theme has no reason to exist (and some games would take too long because of that too), so it was that or I would request the theme was removed myself.
     
  39. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    Lots of people don't like the changes btw, but I support it, mainly because it forces players to go more on the tactical really. People such as Crobat have basically just sit and waited to die in 3 nights saying 'bring shock back' but shock brings up no strategical value whatsoever and basically forces the player to slouch around and afk for a whole 6 nights or so and kill everybody quite literally. I was literally the first person to do this and win (was the first game too, score!) but I realized that as I played as normal more and more things to really boring and lost all strategic meaning to me.

    IMO, keep the changes, and stick to it.
     
  40. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    A lot of people have complained on server but haven't posted anything about this so yeah I feel it would be good for some kind of input here perhaps. I still believe there is tactical value in being able to stay as Rotom for a while and then convert although I see the problem because people who stay normal want to be treated like conspirators and then just join the winning side at the end.

    Basically I feel like there could be some use with normal Rotoms being in the mix (else it's basically selective ClanWar) but I don't have any ideas to do that.