Dinosaurs (Dinos)

Discussion in 'Active Themes' started by Windblown, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    You're not annoying me trust me, it's just Thanksgiving and I'm not completely on top of things and I was working on something else this morning plus I'm still getting used to the commands of coding. I'll fix that ASAP since I didn't really know that, thanks for bringing it up honestly.

    EDIT: Fixed for realz!
     
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  2. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    meant to reply to this but kept forgetting. Pterodactyl is sided with the village cause I was just looking for some well-known dinosaur role for a quick fix to the village's overpoweredness in being able to spawn a bunch of bulletproofs. It doesn't exactly eat other dinosaurs iirc so I figured it would be fine to be on the herbivores' side. The fact that it only gets miniscule hax was my idea of a 'villager' dino, but now that there are a bunch of eggs that problem should be rectified. It's a good idea for almost all eggs to become pterodactyls though.
     
  3. JhenMohran

    JhenMohran Random Art Guy

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    heya

    1/ Why not just put a dummy command in Egg5... makes the code a whole lot simpler ;)

    2/ I think the Apatosaurous Reveal Chance is too haxy
    It should either be 50/50 or none at all ... 10% is just so annoying

    3/lol spinosauros best role but ^^ similar I think 10% is a little low

    NB: I know the whole theme is "random" orientated however I think that this works for the egg converts but not really for these smallish thingys

    meteor a nice reveal chance imo
    however that 90% hmmmm round up to 100 ;)

    Also can these random dummy roles be explained to me :D

    Everything else nice

    So yeah just some small bits that need clarifying for me and then will accept!
     
  4. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Egg5 in itself is a role that is taken from eggs 1-4, so a dummy command wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. As for Apato, the 10% is there for balance issues (makes the village stronger, but not too strong) and is very important now with T-Rex having a pierce kill. Spinosaurus I was thinking about boosting to a 25-75 thing, but thing about that is that it's a separate kill from it's team, so if I were to boost it into a respectable level the Carnivores might be OP.

    The dummy roles are simply to clean up the priority list. There's a total of 3 meteors, so having 3 separate kills would be ridiculous. Same with there being 5 spots for hatching, 2 spots for the Ice Age, etc. The 90% is going to be moved up for sure, bout to right now.

    So yeah, that's all I have to say for that :)

    EDIT: 90% now removed for a true reveal.
     
  5. JhenMohran

    JhenMohran Random Art Guy

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    alrighty makes sense to me :D

    the balance is good as far as i can remember and I am a fan of the convert themes so accept [5] well done Team Whateveryouguyswere
     
  6. Joeypals!!

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    We were the Veritable Villagers! Anywho, thanks and just like I have in KI, I'll keep editing if any further issues came up~ Nice working with everyone else who was behind this theme, looking forward to further collabs down the road!
     
  7. Solace

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    Added to the server.
     
  8. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Major two edits I made since approval: Distributed teamtalk to where it was appropriate and now Oviraptor gets reveal on egg4s, not eggs.

    EDIT: After seeing games where the eggs that hatched were mainly turning bad if they weren't duds, the percentages for now are this:

    Egg: 15%
    Egg2: 10%
    Egg3: 5%
    Egg4: 70%

    This can of course be edited later but frankly I'm tired of seeing games where things are about to end and then all the sudden BAM! Another Mafia on a separate side.

    EDIT2: In light of recent events, I request that Windblown takes the theme over until my return. Use my pastebin please.
    EDIT3: With the issue being resolved, I'll be able to continue editing and managing the theme as needed alongside Windblown.
     
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  9. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Have you thought of changing the spawn a little bit so we don't end up with 7-9 eggs in a mid-peak game so we don't end up with the village end up just hitting egg after egg? That part of the theme doesn't make many people want to play it because they all ways end up with a lot of eggs and less PRs.
     
  10. Windblown

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    I was wondering what I thought was so bland about the theme, realized we have a crapton of villagers (6 or so) at 21 players, so I figured one PR wouldn't hurt. So I added Iguanadon, a 1-shot bulletproof and tracker, at 13 players.

    Discussion is welcome but that seems to be a good slot to change because mafia was OP at 13-14 and meteor coming at 16 doesn't make that easier.
     
  11. Micaiah

    Micaiah Bop it

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    Logging this for Joey

    (20:10:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:10:32) Times Up! :
    (20:10:32) ±Human: Ha, Karp Karpity (Egg) is now extinct.
    (20:10:32) ±Game: Your target (Batman) was protected!
    (20:10:32) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:10:32) ±Current Roles: Ankylosaurus, Apatosaurus, Egg, Egg, Egg, Egg, Iguanadon, Meteor, Ornithomimus, Oviraptor, Parasaurolophus, Spinosaurus, Triceratops, Troodon, Tyrannosaurus Rex, Velociraptor.
    (20:10:32) ±Current Players: Ashpess, Batman, Crazy Player, Hades, Jamaree, Micaiah, Olmec, Rentorar, Riah, Ubii, V1ral, Xenon, Xtina, Zabuza_Momochi, Zexy Knight D., meeps.
    (20:10:32) ±Current Team: Spinosaurus, Tyrannosaurus Rex, Velociraptor
    (20:10:32) ±Time: Day 1
    (20:10:32) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:10:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:10:37) meeps: spino wtf im anky
    (20:10:41) Xenon: I just wanted to hatch :c
    (20:10:41) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:10:41) ±Game: Apatosaurus stretched their neck out to find out who is Velociraptor.
    (20:10:41) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:10:42) Ashpess: he could become bad
    (20:10:43) Olmec: [Team] Micaiah are you velocirator
    (20:10:44) Xenon: parasawhatever
    (20:10:45) Olmec: [Team] rip
    (20:10:47) Micaiah: [Team] rip
    (20:10:48) Xtina: [Team] Batman protected... interesting
    (20:10:50) Micaiah: I know
    (20:10:51) Micaiah: Veli
    (20:10:53) Micaiah: Velo
    (20:10:54) Olmec: [Team] claim apato
    (20:10:54) Micaiah: Prs pm
    (20:10:56) Olmec: [Team] y/y
    (20:10:57) Micaiah: Apato here
    (20:11:00) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:11:00) ±Game: The sky suddenly turns a crimson red and a giant ball of flame falls out of it, brutally smashing into Batman!
    (20:11:00) ±Human: Ha, Batman (Ankylosaurus) is now extinct.
    (20:11:01) ***************************************************************************************[/HIDE]

    Should've said evaded not protected~
     
  12. Joeypals!!

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    In case an action log comes into question with that, the issue has come up multiple other times in various forms.
     
  13. Windblown

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    I put that as Ankylo's evade message on purpose, so that you can't immediately tell it's Ankylo and allows it to hide a bit better from T-Rex. If you think it doesn't need a buff then feel free to change it.
     
  14. Joeypals!!

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    I'd take it down, you have Iguanadon evading now so it can look like Ankylosaurus and thus the T-Rex can be fooled that way. The protect message as it stands isn't necessary to fool the T-Rex since they can just /chomp that anyway.

    EDIT: I'll probably just change the pastebin back to being mine again since I'm generally more active while making the switch. That was a really egotistical comment, my apologies. Windblown and I are working on the theme right now.
     
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  15. Yagura

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    In my opinion Apatosaurus needs an "exposedtargetmsg".
     
  16. Joeypals!!

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    I actually brought that up to Windblown while we were bringing in the new Dinos, I think we forgot about it. We'll try to get it added shortly.
     
  17. Windblown

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    That's added.

    Forgot to mention the addition of a few new roles: Hypselosaurus comes at 14 and is a miller for Troodon. When Troodon dies it gets an option to either have 3 votes or -2 votes and a one-time self protect.
    Lanzhousaurus comes at 19 and is a miller for T-Rex; when the T-rex dies it gets a nightkill.

    Then we added a 4th mafia for both sides in really big games (Plesiosaurus is a BG with 2 votes sided with the carnivores, Gallilimus is a JOAT on the omnivores' side)
     
  18. Joeypals!!

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    From what I've seen lately, I guess you guys aren't having as much fun with Dinos as you were during the TCC, as evidenced by the player drop and several reports of it being "boring".

    Please, QC and users, post here and tell us your opinions on the theme. Is it too complex, too simple? Every opinion is needed in order to make this theme even better than it is already, just tell us what you guys really think.