Flock (KACAW)

Discussion in 'Active Themes' started by Solace, Sep 8, 2013.

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  1. Roild

    Roild Member

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  2. Withoutatrace

    Withoutatrace im a filthy weeb

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    I personally would rather this theme go to someone who doesn't have that much to deal with, so essentially I'd be against Joey, using as an example being that he volunteered to take it, adopting this theme. Yes, it is mostly done but the rest can be simple things that, proven through Solace, in real life, and PO life, can get in the way of if it continues to be an annoying amount of stuff.
    Per Joey, apparently there is this whole 12 themes shit, I have no earthly clue, I'm just basing this post off of what I have heard from both him and others. I mean, if someone can dedicate their time, and not get overwhelmed with other things, or be working on 12 themes on top of maintaining the others that are authored by you, I'd be fine with them adopting this theme. It really isn't my place to decide who gets to adopt a theme, but from the perspective of an avid mafia player, I personally would rather this theme still be prominent within the Mafia community, and continue to be played as a top theme, atleast it is from my view, rather than it get bogged down with senseless shit with an author who has too much on their plate as it is.

    this is the right thread I swear

    edit: k fuck posting this somewhere else, but this applies to other themes for future adoption + the tossup of DN as well, from my pov
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2014
  3. Pangaea

    Pangaea resto en peaco

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    I have a few suggestions for the theme, but if have the odd feeling that the theme isn't stable yet to receive them. With Solace suddenly quitting because of life problems, a few errors that haven't been fixed, and I'm not even sure if someone has adopted this yet, it just doesn't feel like the right time. If I'm right, Roild has, so hopefully he takes good care of this theme, as it is one of my favorites. But for now, I will wait for things to be cleared up before I make any suggestions.
     
  4. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    The themes will be maintained by Beast and I. All changes will be run through at least 1 other person (a QC Member). There will be no adopting of the theme.

    If there are any objections to this decision, please click here

    Any further bickering in this thread will lead to more than just posts being deleted.
     
  5. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    For me ok.
    Anyway before of this mass post delete, i noticed that the oddbirds can kill their unknown teammates. So i was wondering if they should be immune to their partners attacks, so that at least they will not teamkill.
     
  6. Betato

    Betato Betato the Baconator

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    Golbat can see his teammates through /tt. Is that normal or not?.

    If not. go on with the fixing.
     
  7. Trolls

    Trolls Active Member

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    That is true, I can prove by providing logs below.

    (22:23:39) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:23:39) Times Up! :
    (22:23:39) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (22:23:39) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:23:39) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:23:39) ±Current Roles: Charizard, Delibird, Golbat, Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Mandibuzz, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Spearow, Tropius, Xatu.
    (22:23:39) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Moltres3000, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, TrinityForce, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, Your on camera, awesome, meeps.
    (22:23:39) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:23:39) ±Time: Night 1
    (22:23:39) Make your moves, you only have 45 seconds! :
    (22:23:39) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:23:41) awesome: moltress3000 can not play
    (22:23:46) [SLeague]Donovan left the channel.

    (22:23:47) Moltres3000: ??
    (22:23:58) ±Game: You have chosen to venom Your on camera!
    (22:23:59) ±Game: You have chosen to train Nitrogen!
    (22:24:01) awesome: i was human
    (22:24:11) Your on camera: charizard is killin a teammate
    (22:24:13) meeps: 0
    (22:24:16) Ciara: i am an adorable little pidgey
    (22:24:19) Sir Betato: Everyone makes mistakes.
    (22:24:24) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:24:24) Times Up! :
    (22:24:24) ±Game: Your teammate was too busy with the Spearow during the night, you decided not to kill anyone during the night!
    (22:24:24) ±Kill: Your on camera (Tropius) died!
    (22:24:24) ±Game: You couldn't train this night!
    (22:24:24) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:24:24) ±Current Roles: Charizard, Delibird, Golbat, Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Mandibuzz, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Spearow, Xatu.
    (22:24:24) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Moltres3000, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, TrinityForce, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, awesome, meeps.
    (22:24:24) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:24:24) ±Time: Day 1
    (22:24:24) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:24:24) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:24:29) Thomas Sutter: NICE
    (22:24:33) Sir Betato: [Team] DAMN.
    (22:24:35) Moltres3000: xfire n1 :)
    (22:24:36) Pichi: only one death and it was a baddie
    (22:24:37) Pichi: !
    (22:24:42) Pichi: who was spearow on
    (22:24:55) Ciara: i am pidgey haha i love it
    (22:24:57) Moltres3000: Or Xatu rand bged
    (22:24:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:24:59) ±Current Roles: Charizard, Delibird, Golbat, Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Mandibuzz, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Spearow, Xatu.
    (22:24:59) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Moltres3000, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, TrinityForce, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, awesome, meeps.
    (22:24:59) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:24:59) ±Time: Day 1
    (22:24:59) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:24:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:25:03) Your on camera left the channel.

    (22:25:03) Nitrogen: [Team] hi
    (22:25:04) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:25:04) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:25:05) Xcadrill joined the channel.

    (22:25:08) Pichi: maybe that
    (22:25:10) Nitrogen: [Team] can you see me
    (22:25:12) Nitrogen: [Team] talk
    (22:25:13) Ciara: who is mandibuzz
    (22:25:13) You're on camera! joined the channel.

    (22:25:15) Sir Betato: [Team] ye
    (22:25:19) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:25:19) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:25:23) Sir Betato: [Team] winrar is mandibuzz
    (22:25:23) WinRAR1.0: [Team] lulz
    (22:25:24) Nitrogen: [Team] wow now i know my teammates
    (22:25:27) Elite 4 Marshal left the channel.

    (22:25:29) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:25:29) Times Up! :
    (22:25:29) No one was voted off!:
    (22:25:29) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:25:29) ±Current Roles: Charizard, Delibird, Golbat, Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Mandibuzz, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Spearow, Xatu.
    (22:25:29) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Moltres3000, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, TrinityForce, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, awesome, meeps.
    (22:25:29) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:25:29) ±Time: Night 2
    (22:25:29) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (22:25:29) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:25:29) Sir Betato: [Team] yup
    (22:25:30) Nitrogen: [Team] they need to fix this
    (22:25:32) Sir Betato: [Team] this is crap
    (22:25:36) Nitrogen: [Team] I will post it on the fourms
    (22:25:37) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:25:37) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:25:43) ±Game: You have chosen to venom Pichi!
    (22:25:43) WhiteOni: Leedle leedle
    (22:25:44) Sir Betato: [Team] tell solaceee.
    (22:25:46) Eddie the Head changed names and is now known as Pest Control.

    (22:25:47) Nitrogen: [Team] poisoining Pichi
    (22:25:48) Rand left the channel.


    Theme: Flock (KACAW)
    Author: Roild and Solace
    Enabled: Yes
    Number of Players: 6 to 31 players
    Thread Link: http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?22157-Flock
    Summary: A fight for dominance of the skies has begun! Which of the Flying type Pokemon will claim victory? PM Solace with comments. Use /changelog to see what's been updated and please post logs of this here http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?22157-Flock Thanks.
    Special Features:
    -Night Phase: 35 seconds
    -Standby Phase: 35 seconds
    (For more information about this theme, type /roles Flock, /sides Flock, /priority Flock and /changelog Flock)
    Code: https://raw.github.com/Fuzzysqurl/Mafia/master/Themes/Hosting/Flock

    (22:25:53) Ciara: i never get to train
    (22:25:53) meeps: moltres3000 how does it feel to be a gyarados?
    (22:25:58) Moltres3000: deedle deedle deedle dee
    (22:26:00) Pest Control changed names and is now known as Eddie the Head.

    (22:26:04) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:26:04) Times Up! :
    (22:26:04) ±Game: Your teammate was too busy with the Spearow during the night, you decided not to kill anyone during the night!
    (22:26:04) ±Kill: TrinityForce (Charizard) died!
    (22:26:04) ±Game: Your target (Pichi) was poisoned!
    (22:26:04) ±Game: The Hoothoot has evolved!
    (22:26:04) ±Game: A Spearow has evolved!
    (22:26:04) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:26:04) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Gyarados, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz, Noctowl, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Xatu.
    (22:26:04) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Moltres3000, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, awesome, meeps.
    (22:26:04) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:26:04) ±Time: Day 2
    (22:26:04) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:26:04) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:26:07) Pichi: ew
    (22:26:07) crashnburn left the channel.

    (22:26:09) Pichi: I was poisoned
    (22:26:09) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:26:09) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:26:12) Sir Betato: [Team] dammit
    (22:26:12) WhiteOni: nice
    (22:26:13) meeps: thanks for killing your teammate tho
    (22:26:16) WhiteOni: Fearow claim
    (22:26:21) TrinityForce left the channel.

    (22:26:21) Pichi: oh hey hoot can claim now
    (22:26:23) Withoutatrace changed names and is now known as Wind's Assman.

    (22:26:23) Norton.: yo
    (22:26:25) meeps: moltres3000 is gyarados got hax
    (22:26:25) Moltres3000: Uh
    (22:26:26) Norton.: i am fearow
    (22:26:27) Wind's Assman changed names and is now known as Withoutatrace.

    (22:26:30) Pichi: Or noctowl, rather
    (22:26:34) meeps: he killed trinityforce is teammate lo!l
    (22:26:34) Ciara: yes
    (22:26:35) awesome: moltress3000 is bad
    (22:26:36) Moltres3000: My computer jusr randomly zoomed in
    (22:26:39) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:26:39) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Gyarados, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz, Noctowl, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Xatu.
    (22:26:39) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Moltres3000, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, awesome, meeps.
    (22:26:39) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:26:39) ±Time: Day 2
    (22:26:39) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:26:39) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:26:39) ±Game: meeps voted for Moltres3000!
    (22:26:41) Moltres3000: Anyone know how to fix that
    (22:26:42) Xcadrill left the channel.

    (22:26:45) ±Game: Norton. voted for Moltres3000!
    (22:26:47) ±Game: Pichi voted for Moltres3000!
    (22:26:48) ±Game: Nitrogen voted for Moltres3000!
    (22:26:52) ±Game: Sir Betato voted for Moltres3000!
    (22:26:52) ±Game: Moltres3000 voted for Moltres3000!
    (22:26:55) Sehun left the channel.

    (22:26:56) ±Dratini: ice master was muted by Mahnmut for 1 hour! [Reason: inappropriate] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (22:27:00) Moltres3000: I can't zoom out help D:
    (22:27:02) You're on camera! left the channel.

    (22:27:02) ±Game: Ciara voted for Moltres3000!
    (22:27:06) KingLava joined the channel.

    (22:27:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:10) Times Up! :
    (22:27:10) ±Game: Moltres3000 (Gyarados) was removed from the game!
    (22:27:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:10) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz, Noctowl, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Xatu.
    (22:27:10) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, awesome, meeps.
    (22:27:10) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:27:10) ±Time: Night 3
    (22:27:10) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (22:27:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:17) ±Game: You have chosen to venom Ciara!
    (22:27:18) awesome: told you
    (22:27:20) Nitrogen: [Team] poisoning Ciara
    (22:27:36) Ciara: plz let me for gods sake train
    (22:27:42) meeps: fearow has been on winrar since n1
    (22:27:44) Micaiah changed names and is now known as Selena Gomez.

    (22:27:45) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:45) Times Up! :
    (22:27:45) ±Game: Your teammate was too busy with the Fearow during the night, you decided not to kill anyone during the night!
    (22:27:45) ±Game: Your target (Ciara) was poisoned!
    (22:27:45) No one died! :
    (22:27:45) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:45) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz, Noctowl, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Xatu.
    (22:27:45) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, awesome, meeps.
    (22:27:45) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:27:45) ±Time: Day 3
    (22:27:45) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:27:45) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:50) Sir Betato: [Team] damn.
    (22:27:54) Selena Gomez changed names and is now known as Micaiah.

    (22:27:55) Eddie the Head changed names and is now known as Josephcohorts.

    (22:28:06) Ciara: 2 bloody days to live wow
    (22:28:09) Pichi: ok only one death, who was fearow on
    (22:28:12) Micaiah changed names and is now known as Beyonce.

    (22:28:13) Pichi: *no deaths
    (22:28:15) Pichi: I am derping
    (22:28:20) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:28:20) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz, Noctowl, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Xatu.
    (22:28:20) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, WinRAR1.0, awesome, meeps.
    (22:28:20) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz
    (22:28:20) ±Time: Day 3
    (22:28:20) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:28:20) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:28:23) Beyonce changed names and is now known as Micaiah.

    (22:28:36) meeps: w
    (22:28:42) Ciara: fuu is mandibuzz
    (22:28:42) ±Game: meeps voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:28:44) meeps: might as well
    (22:28:45) Josephcohorts changed names and is now known as Josephaccomplices.

    (22:28:45) meeps: do for it
    (22:28:49) meeps: go*
    (22:28:49) ±Game: Pichi voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:28:50) Nitrogen: [Team] can iv ote u
    (22:28:51) ±Game: Norton. voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:28:51) Fuu: no im not
    (22:28:52) ±Game: WinRAR1.0 voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:28:52) ±Game: That person is not playing!
    (22:28:55) ±Game: Nitrogen voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:29:01) ±Game: Sir Betato voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:29:02) ±Game: Fuu voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:29:04) ±Game: Thomas Sutter voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:29:07) ±Game: Ciara voted for WinRAR1.0!
    (22:29:08) Thomas Sutter: tabfailed
    (22:29:08) ±Game: WhiteOni voted for WhiteOni!
    (22:29:08) Thomas Sutter: lol
    (22:29:10) ±QueryBot: Justin Bieber was last seen: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 04:21:44 GMT
    (22:29:10) WhiteOni: oops
    (22:29:10) Thomas Sutter: Windblown
    (22:29:11) WhiteOni: Tab
    (22:29:12) Nitrogen: dont do JB Micaiah
    (22:29:16) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:16) Times Up! :
    (22:29:16) ±Game: WinRAR1.0 (Mandibuzz) was removed from the game!
    (22:29:16) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:16) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey, Xatu.
    (22:29:16) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Nitrogen, Norton., Pichi, Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, awesome, meeps.
    (22:29:16) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow
    (22:29:16) ±Time: Night 4
    (22:29:16) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (22:29:16) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:17) +Micaiah: ?
    (22:29:23) Fuu: nice try ciara
    (22:29:25) Pichi: I die tonight
    (22:29:29) Nitrogen: you had beyonce i was guessing something next idek
    (22:29:31) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:29:31) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:29:35) Ciara: my phone is messed up
    (22:29:35) ±Game: You have chosen to venom WhiteOni!
    (22:29:39) Nitrogen: [Team] poisoning WO
    (22:29:41) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:29:41) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:29:51) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:51) Times Up! :
    (22:29:51) ±Game: Your target (WhiteOni) was poisoned!
    (22:29:51) ±Kill: Pichi (Xatu) died!
    (22:29:51) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:51) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey.
    (22:29:51) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Nitrogen, Norton., Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, awesome, meeps.
    (22:29:51) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow
    (22:29:51) ±Time: Day 4
    (22:29:51) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:29:51) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:56) Elite 4 Grimsley joined the channel.

    (22:29:57) WhiteOni: poisoned
    (22:30:03) WhiteOni: Time to rand vote
    (22:30:08) meeps: no
    (22:30:11) Ciara: i day to live anyway soooooo
    (22:30:11) WhiteOni: Yus
    (22:30:14) meeps: awesome what are you?
    (22:30:19) WhiteOni: Ciara rand votes
    (22:30:26) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:26) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Honchkrow, Noctowl, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey.
    (22:30:26) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Nitrogen, Norton., Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, awesome, meeps.
    (22:30:26) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow
    (22:30:26) ±Time: Day 4
    (22:30:26) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:30:26) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:27) ±Game: meeps voted for awesome!
    (22:30:30) meeps: likely honch
    (22:30:31) Abern34 joined the channel.

    (22:30:32) [ACOL[GL]Diva left the channel.

    (22:30:33) Nitrogen: meeps he might be a power role
    (22:30:36) meeps: only 1 death
    (22:30:37) ajhockeystar left the channel.

    (22:30:38) ±CommandBot: The command myrtole doesn't exist
    (22:30:39) meeps: and that death was to poison
    (22:30:41) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:30:41) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:30:43) ±Game: Ciara voted for awesome!
    (22:30:45) ±Game: Nitrogen voted for awesome!
    (22:30:46) ±Game: Thomas Sutter voted for awesome!
    (22:30:49) ±Game: Norton. voted for awesome!
    (22:30:50) meeps: fearow was on them
    (22:30:51) meeps: so yeah
    (22:30:52) awesome: noctowl
    (22:30:55) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:55) Times Up! :
    (22:30:56) ±Game: awesome (Noctowl) was removed from the game!
    (22:30:56) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:56) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Fearow, Golbat, Honchkrow, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey, Pidgey.
    (22:30:56) ±Current Players: Ciara, Fuu, Nitrogen, Norton., Sir Betato, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, meeps.
    (22:30:56) ±Current Team: Golbat, Honchkrow
    (22:30:56) ±Time: Night 5
    (22:30:56) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (22:30:56) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:58) meeps: mfw
    (22:31:01) Norton.: nope
    (22:31:09) WhiteOni: wha
    (22:31:09) Nitrogen: lol
    (22:31:11) Thomas Sutter: moops <<<<baddie>>>>> moops
    (22:31:11) Ciara: no deaths plz
    (22:31:13) WhiteOni: Ciara
    (22:31:16) meeps: im conf delibird
    (22:31:17) meeps: hello
    (22:31:17) ±Game: You have chosen to venom Thomas Sutter!
    (22:31:17) WhiteOni: You die tonight
    (22:31:25) Ciara: i know
    (22:31:31) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:31:31) Times Up! :
    (22:31:31) ±Kill: Norton. (Fearow) died!
    (22:31:31) ±Kill: Sir Betato (Honchkrow) died!
    (22:31:31) ±Game: Your target (Thomas Sutter) was poisoned!
    (22:31:31) ±Kill: Ciara (Pidgey) died!
    (22:31:31) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:31:31) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Golbat, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey.
    (22:31:31) ±Current Players: Fuu, Nitrogen, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, meeps.
    (22:31:31) ±Current Team: Golbat
    (22:31:31) ±Time: Day 5
    (22:31:31) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:31:31) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:31:36) WhiteOni: welp
    (22:31:41) Thomas Sutter: poisoned
    (22:31:44) Thomas Sutter: poisoned podgey
    (22:31:55) The Shadows joined the channel.

    (22:31:56) Fuu: im reg pidgey
    (22:32:01) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:32:01) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:32:06) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:32:06) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Golbat, Pidgeotto, Pidgey, Pidgey.
    (22:32:06) ±Current Players: Fuu, Nitrogen, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, meeps.
    (22:32:06) ±Current Team: Golbat
    (22:32:06) ±Time: Day 5
    (22:32:06) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:32:06) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:32:07) meeps: hmm
    (22:32:18) ±Game: WhiteOni voted for Fuu!
    (22:32:22) WhiteOni: posoin rand
    (22:32:28) Fuu: im pidgey
    (22:32:32) ±Game: Fuu voted for Nitrogen!
    (22:32:34) Nitrogen: ???
    (22:32:36) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:32:36) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:32:36) ±Game: Thomas Sutter voted for Fuu!
    (22:32:37) WhiteOni: thats what they all say
    (22:32:39) WhiteOni: e.e
    (22:32:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:32:44) Times Up! :
    (22:32:44) ±Game: Fuu (Pidgey) was removed from the game!
    (22:32:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:32:44) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Golbat, Pidgeotto, Pidgey.
    (22:32:44) ±Current Players: Nitrogen, Thomas Sutter, WhiteOni, meeps.
    (22:32:44) ±Current Team: Golbat
    (22:32:44) ±Time: Night 6
    (22:32:44) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (22:32:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:32:46) ±Game: You are a Golbat!
    (22:32:46) ±Game: You're a Golbat and you've come out of your cave to see what's going on. Use /venom to kill someone in two days. You can also use /train during the same night to try to grow stronger!
    (22:32:47) WhiteOni: well
    (22:32:49) ±Game: You have chosen to venom meeps!
    (22:32:50) ±Game: You have chosen to train Nitrogen!
    (22:32:54) meeps: thomas sutter you have 2 days to live?
    (22:33:02) Thomas Sutter: after this night, only 1
    (22:33:02) WhiteOni: get nitrogen then
    (22:33:07) WhiteOni: I DIE TONIIIGHT
    (22:33:10) [PKMN]Charmander left the channel.

    (22:33:13) ±Game: You have chosen to venom WhiteOni!
    (22:33:16) WinRAR1.0 left the channel.

    (22:33:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:33:19) Times Up! :
    (22:33:19) ±Game: You couldn't train this night!
    (22:33:19) ±Kill: WhiteOni (Pidgeotto) died!
    (22:33:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:33:19) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Golbat, Pidgey.
    (22:33:19) ±Current Players: Nitrogen, Thomas Sutter, meeps.
    (22:33:19) ±Current Team: Golbat
    (22:33:19) ±Time: Day 6
    (22:33:19) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:33:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:33:23) Nitrogen: i have 2 days to live
    (22:33:26) meeps: ya nitrogen is prob scum
    (22:33:28) ±Dratini: love sosa was muted by Mahnmut for 2 hours! [Reason: inappropriate] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (22:33:34) Nitrogen: im poisoned pidgey
    (22:33:44) meeps: (16:26:35) meeps: moltres3000 is gyarados got hax
    (22:33:46) meeps: just for ref
    (22:33:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:33:54) ±Current Roles: Delibird, Golbat, Pidgey.
    (22:33:54) ±Current Players: Nitrogen, Thomas Sutter, meeps.
    (22:33:54) ±Current Team: Golbat
    (22:33:54) ±Time: Day 6
    (22:33:54) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:33:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:33:58) ±Game: meeps voted for Nitrogen!
    (22:34:01) Nitrogen: im pidgey stop
    (22:34:04) ±Game: Thomas Sutter voted for Nitrogen!
    (22:34:07) ±Game: Nitrogen voted for Thomas Sutter!
    (22:34:07) Thomas Sutter: bai podgey
    (22:34:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:34:08) Times Up! :
    (22:34:08) ±Game: Nitrogen (Golbat) was removed from the game!
    (22:34:08) ±Game: The good-natured birds of the day, Thomas Sutter and meeps, have claimed the skies as their own!
    (22:34:08) ***************************************************************************************
     
  8. Solace

    Solace Member

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    Has that been fixed yet?
    If not, the balance of the theme has been disrupted by implementing something I strongly resisted. Golbat does not know his team.

    Also, it seems that people are still inclined to ask me about the theme which is entirely unfruitful.
     
  9. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    Looking at the themeinfo code it looks to have been fixed that Golbat problem: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Fuzzysqurl/Mafia/master/Flock .
    About the problem of people still asking you, There is no much that can be done, most of the people doesn't check the forum, especially the theme's thread, so they only know the authors by the /themeinfo command.
    Maybe if it annoy you so much you could ask @Fuzzysqurl to remove your author's name from this version of Flock, but maybe it would be a little extreme, even because it would be like taking away your credit from your creature.
     
  10. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    This is probably why they ask you :x
     
  11. Solace

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    I know that but I no longer own the theme or have any rights to ever own it again, it seems.
    The current author needs to change that.
     
  12. Haris Kun

    Haris Kun Underdoge

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    For small game Gyarados and Tropius in one team kinda OP, they can kill and poison just like those rotten fruits from the Fruit theme in addition this tropius able to poison two people in one night also they died on the following days remove one of them or make the poison 2 days would be good
     
  13. Ghengars Khan

    Ghengars Khan Banned

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    First of all, I think proper grammar is needed to make that sentence actually sound correct, but if I am to understand what you are saying, Gyarados and Tropius are similar to the Rotten Tomato/Orange of small games of Fruit. Tropius, however, can only poison 1 person each night and that person dies after 2 days. What you observed was probably Honchkrow's kill and slash or miscommunication between the kills and poison of Tropius and Gyarados.
     
  14. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Xatu's protect blocks all actions, apparently the help says it should only block poison and kills.
     
  15. Karp Karpity

    Karp Karpity Active Member

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    Here's a log of a Flock game
    (18:23:50) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:23:50) Times Up! :
    (18:23:50) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (18:23:50) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Pidgey, Pidgey, Spearow, Tropius, Xatu.
    (18:23:50) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Chota Bheem, HarisKun, Joeypals, Laser Kirby, SexyApollo, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:23:50) ±Time: Night 1
    (18:23:50) Make your moves, you only have 45 seconds! :
    (18:23:50) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:23:55) Joeypals: brb, finding fucks to give
    (18:23:57) ±Murkrow: andrinor was banned from mafia by MewtwoHidden for 4 hours! [Reason: Don't leave in the middle of a game, ask for a slay next time] [Channel: Mafia]
    (18:24:02) [OG]UmbraSkyYT left the channel.
    (18:24:03) *** Yuki Star Fox takes out hand for hand shake to joey
    (18:24:04) Micaiah won against Crobat.

    (18:24:09) Joeypals: ...no
    (18:24:17) Yuki Star Fox: let the best win..
    (18:24:24) 耶耶耶耶! won against Dubz.

    (18:24:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:24:35) Times Up! :
    (18:24:35) ±Kill: SexyApollo (Pidgey) died!
    (18:24:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:24:35) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Pidgey, Spearow, Tropius, Xatu.
    (18:24:35) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Chota Bheem, HarisKun, Joeypals, Laser Kirby, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:24:35) ±Time: Day 1
    (18:24:35) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (18:24:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:24:36) Battle between [Clutch] Charlene C. and IronStorm started.

    (18:24:36) SexyApollo: [Dead] um
    (18:24:36) IronStorm left the channel.

    (18:24:40) Chota Bheem: Hoothoot here
    (18:24:42) Laser Kirby: oww
    (18:24:46) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:24:46) ±Game: Tropius was hidden in the bushes and gained some useful information!
    (18:24:46) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:24:46) Battle between orsiris and Jeremy Lin started.

    (18:24:52) Chota Bheem: Hoothoot
    (18:24:56) Battle between Crobat and Micaiah started.

    (18:24:59) Joeypals: Hmm... k. Whatcha got
    (18:25:06) Crobat won against Micaiah.

    (18:25:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:25:10) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Pidgey, Spearow, Tropius, Xatu.
    (18:25:10) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Chota Bheem, HarisKun, Joeypals, Laser Kirby, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:25:10) ±Time: Day 1
    (18:25:10) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (18:25:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:25:15) Laser Kirby: inb4 trop
    (18:25:18) Battle between Crobat and Micaiah started.

    (18:25:22) SexyApollo left the channel.

    (18:25:41) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:25:41) Times Up! :
    (18:25:41) No one was voted off!:
    (18:25:41) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:25:41) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Pidgey, Spearow, Tropius, Xatu.
    (18:25:41) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Chota Bheem, HarisKun, Joeypals, Laser Kirby, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:25:41) ±Time: Night 2
    (18:25:41) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (18:25:41) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:25:45) Micaiah won against Crobat.

    (18:25:54) Battle between Crobat and Micaiah started.

    (18:26:05) ±Dratini: Fatass was mysteriously kicked by Crobat!
    (18:26:15) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:26:15) Times Up! :
    (18:26:15) ±Kill: Joeypals (Xatu) died!
    (18:26:15) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:26:15) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Pidgey, Spearow, Tropius.
    (18:26:15) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Chota Bheem, HarisKun, Laser Kirby, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:26:15) ±Time: Day 2
    (18:26:15) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (18:26:15) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:26:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:26:19) ±Game: Tropius was hidden in the bushes and gained some useful information!
    (18:26:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:26:23) Laser Kirby: hi again spear?
    (18:26:29) ±Dratini: Fatass was muted by Beast for 4 hours! [Reason: r5] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (18:26:31) Shadow Sneak won against Veteran Padgett.

    (18:26:39) Chota Bheem: Laster kirby is hounchcrow
    (18:26:46) HarisKun: you were PLd?
    (18:26:48) Assassin Connor left the channel.

    (18:26:49) Laser Kirby: bzzzt
    (18:26:50) HarisKun: and theres one kill
    (18:26:50) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:26:50) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Pidgey, Spearow, Tropius.
    (18:26:50) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Chota Bheem, HarisKun, Laser Kirby, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:26:50) ±Time: Day 2
    (18:26:50) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (18:26:50) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:26:52) ±Game: Chota Bheem voted for Laser Kirby!
    (18:26:52) HarisKun: probs bad
    (18:26:56) ±Game: HarisKun voted for Laser Kirby!
    (18:26:57) Laser Kirby: get gyarados first
    (18:26:57) ±Game: Yuki Star Fox voted for Laser Kirby!
    (18:26:58) ±Game: Ascarotte voted for Laser Kirby!
    (18:26:58) ±Game: Zidane FFIX voted for Laser Kirby!
    (18:27:00) Chota Bheem: Hoothoot
    (18:27:01) ±Game: Laser Kirby voted for HarisKun!
    (18:27:01) Chota Bheem: Here
    (18:27:02) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:27:02) Times Up! :
    (18:27:02) ±Game: Laser Kirby (Honchkrow) was removed from the game!
    (18:27:02) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:27:02) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Hoothoot, Pidgey, Spearow, Tropius.
    (18:27:02) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, Chota Bheem, HarisKun, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:27:02) ±Time: Night 3
    (18:27:02) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (18:27:02) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:27:02) Chota Bheem: Follow
    (18:27:02) Laser Kirby: [Dead] oh well
    (18:27:14) Micaiah forfeited against Crobat.

    (18:27:15) Joeypals: [Dead] They prob still got it
    (18:27:20) Battle between Crobat and Micaiah started.

    (18:27:25) Micaiah won against Crobat.

    (18:27:29) *** Yuki Star Fox does a Japanese bow
    (18:27:33) Endy the Enderman joined the channel.

    (18:27:33) Battle between Crobat and Micaiah started.

    (18:27:33) Yuki Star Fox: ok...
    (18:27:34) Laser Kirby: [Dead] unless someone is poison?
    (18:27:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:27:36) Times Up! :
    (18:27:36) ±Kill: Chota Bheem (Hoothoot) died!
    (18:27:36) ±Game: A Spearow has evolved!
    (18:27:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:27:36) ±Current Roles: Fearow, Gyarados, Pidgey, Tropius.
    (18:27:36) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, HarisKun, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:27:36) ±Time: Day 3
    (18:27:36) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (18:27:36) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:27:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:27:44) ±Game: Tropius was hidden in the bushes and gained some useful information!
    (18:27:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:27:51) Joeypals: [Dead] ...game should be over
    (18:27:54) Joeypals: [Dead] Weird
    (18:28:00) Crobat won against Micaiah.

    (18:28:00) Laser Kirby: [Dead] fearow
    (18:28:01) Laser Kirby: [Dead] is bomb
    (18:28:03) HarisKun: Yuki Star Fox follow me
    (18:28:08) HarisKun: lets vote Ascarotte
    (18:28:09) Battle between Crobat and Micaiah started.

    (18:28:11) Yuki Star Fox: ok
    (18:28:11) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:28:11) ±Current Roles: Fearow, Gyarados, Pidgey, Tropius.
    (18:28:11) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, HarisKun, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:28:11) ±Time: Day 3
    (18:28:11) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (18:28:11) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:28:13) ±Game: Zidane FFIX voted for HarisKun!
    (18:28:13) Joeypals: [Dead] Bombs shouldn't be VCLRs
    (18:28:14) ±Game: HarisKun voted for Ascarotte!
    (18:28:15) ±Game: Ascarotte voted for HarisKun!
    (18:28:22) Joeypals: [Dead] They don't kill activately
    (18:28:24) ±Game: Yuki Star Fox voted for Ascarotte!
    (18:28:25) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:28:25) Times Up! :
    (18:28:25) No one was voted off!:
    (18:28:25) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:28:25) ±Current Roles: Fearow, Gyarados, Pidgey, Tropius.
    (18:28:25) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, HarisKun, Yuki Star Fox, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:28:25) ±Time: Night 4
    (18:28:25) Make your moves, you only have 35 seconds! :
    (18:28:25) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:28:48) Yuki Star Fox: one more time mr.kun
    (18:28:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:28:59) Times Up! :
    (18:28:59) ±Kill: Yuki Star Fox (Pidgey) died!
    (18:28:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:28:59) ±Current Roles: Fearow, Gyarados, Tropius.
    (18:28:59) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, HarisKun, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:28:59) ±Time: Day 4
    (18:28:59) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (18:28:59) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:29:09) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:29:09) ±Game: Tropius was hidden in the bushes and gained some useful information!
    (18:29:09) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:29:12) Micaiah won against Crobat.

    (18:29:13) Ascarotte: kacaw
    (18:29:18) HarisKun: WACAK
    (18:29:26) Yuki Star Fox: [Dead] sorry I hav failed my first mission...
    (18:29:32) Chota Bheem forfeited against Shaymin's flower.

    (18:29:34) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:29:34) ±Current Roles: Fearow, Gyarados, Tropius.
    (18:29:34) ±Current Players: Ascarotte, HarisKun, Zidane FFIX.
    (18:29:34) ±Time: Day 4
    (18:29:34) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (18:29:34) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:29:37) HarisKun: Since that time, i still didnt know what it mean
    (18:29:40) ±Game: Ascarotte voted for HarisKun!
    (18:29:41) Battle between Crobat and Micaiah started.

    (18:29:42) ±Game: Zidane FFIX voted for HarisKun!
    (18:29:42) Chota Bheem: [Dead] :[
    (18:29:43) ±Game: HarisKun voted for HarisKun!
    (18:29:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (18:29:43) Times Up! :
    (18:29:43) ±Game: HarisKun (Fearow) was removed from the game!
    (18:29:43) ±Game: The odd-looking, wtf birds, Ascarotte and Zidane FFIX, have won and taken over the skies!
    (18:29:43) ***************************************************************************************

    Fearow can't be on the villageCantLoseRoles list because it can't win 1v1.
     
  16. Whereabouts Unknown

    Whereabouts Unknown Absolutely Stunning Forum Moderator Channel Leader Forum Moderator Channel Leader

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but iirc if a Gyarados / Honchkrow kills Fearow, they both die, leading to a draw. More of "mafia can't win" role, since the village technically loses either way.
     
  17. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Either way, Fearow being a VCLR does not work. VCLR's are roles that are able to actively beat the Mafia, such as Eraldo in DN or the Vigilante in Default. They roles can actiely defeat the Mafia, whether it be a kill or vote. Being a bomb, a passive role, does not fit the bill.
     
  18. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Screenshot_2014-06-16-12-02-25.png
    Sorry for the double post, but the issue needs attention. Why can Gyarados kill Charizard whilst Honchkrow and crew are unable to kill their teamies, known and unknown?
     
  19. Solace

    Solace Member

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    Because Honch and Mandibuzz have to connect that way and only Honch can safely spam his kills to find teammates.
    Gyarados and Tropius have other ways of connecting and fewer teammates to hit accidentally.
     
  20. Pangaea

    Pangaea resto en peaco

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    Village is very UP in small games, imo.

    (16:12:02) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:12:02) Times Up! :
    (16:12:02) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (16:12:02) ±Game:
    You are a Spearow!
    (16:12:02) ±Game: You're a fiesty little bird with a good heart. You can /glare at one player each night to keep them from acting! You can also use /train [your name] during the same night to try to become stronger and evolve! By the way, you know Farfetch'd from the start so don't distract him!
    (16:12:02) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Hoothoot, Spearow, Tropius, Xatu.
    (16:12:02) ±Current Players: BlackStar44, Fiery Espeon, Latimaster, Pangaea, PixelHypixel, Proto Man.
    (16:12:02) ±Current Team: Hoothoot, Spearow, Xatu
    (16:12:02) ±Time: Night 1
    (16:12:02) Make your moves, you only have 45 seconds! :
    (16:12:02) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:12:10) ±Game: You have chosen to train Pangaea!
    (16:12:15) Proto Man: inspector
    (16:12:26) ±Game: You have chosen to glare BlackStar44!
    (16:12:46) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:12:46) Times Up! :
    (16:12:46) ±Kill:
    BlackStar44 (Hoothoot) died!
    (16:12:46) ±Game: You've fallen victim to the Big Boss Bird, Honchkrow. Have fun sleeping with the fishes!
    (16:12:46) ±Kill: Pangaea (Spearow) died!
    (16:12:47) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:12:47) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Tropius, Xatu.
    (16:12:47) ±Current Players: Fiery Espeon, Latimaster, PixelHypixel, Proto Man.
    (16:12:47) ±Time: Day 1 (Standby)
    (16:12:47) You have 35 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (16:12:47) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:12:51) Fiery Espeon: ..
    (16:12:54) Fiery Espeon: two days to live
    (16:12:57) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:12:57) ±Game: Tropius was hidden in the bushes and gained some useful information!
    (16:12:57) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:12:58) Mr. Perry joined the channel.
    (16:12:58) Pangaea: [Dead] village is horribly up in small games
    (16:13:01) Fiery Espeon: BlackStar44 nice claim tho
    (16:13:09) +Espeon: [Dead] why is honch
    (16:13:13) +Espeon: [Dead] in a game this small
    (16:13:14) +Espeon: [Dead] lol
    (16:13:22) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:13:22) ±Current Roles: Gyarados, Honchkrow, Tropius, Xatu.
    (16:13:22) ±Current Players: Fiery Espeon, Latimaster, PixelHypixel, Proto Man.
    (16:13:22) ±Time: Day 1 (Voting)
    (16:13:22) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (16:13:22) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:13:23) ±Game: Fiery Espeon voted for Proto Man!
    (16:13:24) BlackStar44: [Dead] i was hit by gyara
    (16:13:24) Proto Man: Odd birds win
    (16:13:37) PixelHypixel: vote proto man
    (16:13:39) ±Game: Proto Man voted for PixelHypixel!
    (16:13:42) ±Game: Latimaster voted for Proto Man!
    (16:13:44) Proto Man: gg
    (16:13:45) ±Game: PixelHypixel voted for Proto Man!
    (16:13:46) Proto Man: wp
    (16:13:46) ***************************************************************************************
    (16:13:46) Times Up! :
    (16:13:46) ±Game:
    Proto Man (Honchkrow) was removed from the game!
    (16:13:46) ±Game: The odd-looking, wtf birds, PixelHypixel and Latimaster, have won and taken over the skies!
    (16:13:46) ±Game: The Friendly Birds (Fiery Espeon) lose!dd
    (16:13:46) ***************************************************************************************

    Unless village gets very lucky with crossfire night one, they're very underpowered and will almost always lose after night one. Hoot can't even claim because Honch can pierce. The spawn list should be fixed up a lot so it isn't so unbalanced in small games.
     
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  21. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    What you saw in that game is a minority in the entire spectrum. Usually Hoot does claim n1 without Charizard in, yours just chose not to. If anything, the x-fire property between the Odd Birds and Krow's Crew needs to be reversed, as Odd Birds are far less scary than the Crew atm.
     
  22. Pangaea

    Pangaea resto en peaco

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    Still, the amount of village against mafia is an equal amount, even if the mafia aren't on the same side. Also, Honch can /slash Hoot, can't he?
     
  23. Windblown

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    Honch's /slash doesn't pierce, but village still has equal numbers with the mafia which is something that shouldn't happen. Windata reveals that village has still won the majority of games (4 to 3 for odd birds and 0 for Honch, who can't beat Gyara 1v1 thanks to priority and will tie with Tropius if he's poisoned), so it's not exactly a "minority" considering the number is so close. Honch not winning anything is surprising because his second kill allows him to purposely xfire and win 1v1 against any of the village, but the Odd Birds have won more than Honch, so no, he's not scarier than the two of them.

    Hoothoot claiming specifically doesn't really actually help the village. Either Hoot or Spearow could claim, because the lack of villagers means you don't even need to inspect to eliminate who are the mafia (the people who didn't PM you), and Hoot's inspect will either clean someone or incriminate someone, so you would be able to lynch one person anyways. Fortunately, Honch has 0 so as long as you don't lynch Honch and have the other mafias come to defend him, you will likely win.

    The outcome of the game likely depends on n1 results, because crossfire almost always means village will win, especially since Spearow can stop one mafia role from doing their job. On the other hand, any village death n1 will likely result in the Odd Birds winning because they can outvote Honch and win against village automatically 2v2, which are likely scenarios which will happen after n2. Village can't really do anything if they're down a member because they can't outvote Odd Birds. Gyara killing a villager and Honch killing an Odd Bird + another villager is a village loss; this doesn't usually happen because BG + Spearow can usually stop mafia kills, but the spawn still works in a way that losing a village role n1 makes the game very difficult to win. [Explaining nightkill scenarios is complex through text, but if you look at it yourself you can see the difficulty.]

    I wouldn't say village is underpowered, but the spawn is way too swingy. Replacing Tropius with a Pidgey and perhaps giving Gyarados a distract (/leer) is what I suggest for the spawn. A bigger concern would be Honch who hasn't won a single game under 10, who still can't win against Gyara 1v1 - a voteshield of -1.5 would help him beat Gyara while his two kills will still do work against the village.

    If you're going to bring up potential balance issues, it would be helpful to suggest a change along with asking for one.
     
  24. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    I did :x Honch's side can't hurt each other whilst the Odd Birds, a considerably weaker side which can only really boast a higher priority in kill and Charizard, can. What I was saying is switch it so Odd Birds can't as well.
     
  25. Pangaea

    Pangaea resto en peaco

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    I still don't like how there is an equal amount of village vs mafia in a game this small. Like how Windblown suggested, a Pidgey replacing Tropius would probably be better, perhaps, as Tropius won't make too much of a difference in game this small, if you ask me. His poison takes two days to kill, and there will almost always be 2 kills during the night, Xfire or not. (Unless Spearow gets lucky with his distract, but even then mafia can fakeclaim.) His inspect won't help much either, since if village claims n1 then there are only so many other choices of whose the mafia. That's just my opinion, though.
     
  26. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~

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    Oh, also, why are Gyarados and Tropius able to hax what Charizard does, but not the other way around?
     
  27. Solace

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    Idk what Roild did to my scripts but it sounds like nothing good.
    I don't have an old copy so I'll have to look through what's been done and got from there.
    Get logs of the game for me (particularly ones with 12 or fewer players) and I'll work on patching it up.

    Oh, and please use
    tags for logs. Thanks.
     
  28. Solace

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    So it seems my theme was taken from it's glory and left to rot. That's kinda why I wanted it removed. I have reclaimed my theme. If the community wants it fixed, tell me how to fix it here. If not, I'm going to begin my rant about it being removed again. -__-
     
  29. Shazan

    Shazan Obey to Kyubey

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    I didn't played flock very much lately what problems are rotting it? From the mafia stats it looks like that people play it a good amount of time. It is unbalanced or something like that?
     
  30. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Add preventteamvote as an array for the roles that know a few of their teammates, but not all of them. I think there's a case or two in the theme

    Your fully connected teams already have it done.
     
  31. Solace

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    For some reason, my theme has been reactivated and adopted (without a single bit of discussion on this thread) against my wishes and the express directive of the sMA who removed it at my request. So, apparently my word (that of the original author) and that of one of the two most influential sMAs (and members of the server as a whole [a freaking owner, no less]) mean nothing in terms of what is done with my theme.

    Since Mafia is now making its grand revival, I'm fine with my theme coming back since people seem to like it. However, my name should be credited as an author and whatever changes have been made (I see very many of them) need to be denoted on this thread, as is proper for theme maintenance. Nonsense like wholesale theme overhauls without posted code or a changelog wouldn't have happened while I was here and leading Theme QA and shouldn't happen now. If you want Mafia back to any semblance of it's glory days, theme authors and theme QA are needed more than anyone.

    Since I saw that Mafia was returning, I figured I'd pop back in for a Game Night, maybe come back to the community I enjoyed so thoroughly. Alas, I'm more than a touch annoyed to find my theme in its current state and remember part of why I left in the first place.

    Apparently, according to Pamitha, I'm supposed to beg the current "owners" of my theme to add my name to the authors and a credit in the theme info. Apparently, touching "someone else's" theme to credit the original author is taboo. Ironic. I won't be doing that.

    Instead, I'll say that if you want Mafia to do well, do right by your authors and your MAs. They're people volunteering their time and effort to make the gears turn. I wasn't getting paid when I was an MA and QA and theme author and I'm still not getting paid and I don't expect to. That's not what anyone is here for. What do I expect, is credit for what I've contributed.

    -Solace
     
  32. Duster

    Duster dodgerswin 2018

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    LMAO
     
  33. DatXFire

    DatXFire Never gonna use an avatar

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    Please stop necroposting on a 4 year old thread, mods please lock
     
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  34. Solace

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    The theme this thread is used to discuss is currently active on the server. As long as it is and this thread is in "Active Themes," I find conversation about its use and development relevant.
    I'm all for removing the theme, closing the thread, and forgetting about the whole thing like I asked for four years ago, but apparently that's too mush to ask.
     
  35. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    this meme made by competent users gang
     
  36. Water

    Water Well Respected and Exceptionally Handsome User Forum Moderator Channel Leader Forum Moderator Channel Leader

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    The theme has actually undergone 2 complete rewrites since you left. If you hadn't noticed the server has dwindled to perhaps a tenth or less of what it was even in 2014. As Pamitha politely explained to you the server is dead. When around ninety-six percent of your simulator's population has left things that were done before become increasingly hard to keep doing. So no the 2 complete overhauls and changes were not tracked in this thread as was the original plan. Nor will they be. You are quite delusional if you think you can leave for 4 years and then yell at a person you've never met before about decisions they didn't make and then be praised as the theme designer that can save mafia.

    Yes the people that are still here are just as sad about the downfall of PO as you are. Believe it or not you weren't the only creative or hardworking person here. There were people that made themes when there were no games being played and then tested them slowly over many months and kept adding new features because they couldn't quite get it to work right. There were tier leaders who stayed on and played the same 15 people in a dead tier for months in an effort to keep metagames separate and fresh for the people that were still here and then have discussions with those people about it. PO didn't fail because of a lack of QA. It didn't fail because of a lack of people who cared, or worked hard, or were creative. It certainly didn't fail because Solace left.

    Now as far as I can remember your theme was actually taken down by Fuzzy. He then put it up for adoption and Joeypals completely rewrote it I believe with the help of some other people. I don't think that theme was very well recieved or played very frequently. Fate Testarossa (You probably knew him as Espeon or Arcanine or one of his million other alts) and Karp are the authors on the current theme but neither is here very often. I think it's been edited a couple times by people other than those 2 and it's actually one of the more updated themes on the server. I believe the intent was to restore the way it played to make it play a lot like the original which is in fact a testament to the fact that people did in fact like the theme. And it's still quite liked. But I disagree rather strongly with your notion that it is your theme. You are free to message the authors (@Fate Testarossa, @Karp Karpity) of this theme and ask if you can have your name tacked on to their theme and perhaps help work on some changes to it. Another solution would be for you to maintain a separate theme which we could call Flock 2 which has your ideas fleshed out to how you see fit.

    - Water
     
  37. Solace

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    I'm going to respond to this part because I absolutely agree with the rest. Thank you for the first thoughtful response I've gotten from here in a while.

    -"Believe it or not you weren't the only creative or hardworking person here."
    I do believe it wholeheartedly. That's why I showed back up and wanted involved again and why I don't think theme authors should have their names stripped from their themes. If you want people to care, they need and deserve their credit. I adopted several themes while I was still here. I reworked them. Most importantly, regardless of how many reworks were done, I kept the author's name there and, any time they popped back up, the theme became their's again if they wanted it back.

    -"PO didn't fail because of a lack of QA. It didn't fail because of a lack of people who cared, or worked hard, or were creative."
    PO failed because PS exists now. Yeah, I've seen. But if it's to continue to exist, doing away with things that made it work isn't the answer.

    -"It certainly didn't fail because Solace left."
    "You are quite delusional if you think you can leave for 4 years and then yell at a person you've never met before about decisions they didn't make and then be praised as the theme designer that can save mafia."
    Boy, I sure didn't say that. I said I wanted my name on my theme. Active themes are supposed to be being maintained. Someone had to have made the decision to go against what Fuzzy said and what I asked for to be done with my theme. Who am I supposed to ask if not an sMA responsible for running the community?

    I enjoyed being here. I tried to do everything I could for this place. I only left because college hit like a damn truck and I couldn't be a tryhard at anything else at the time. A lot of people have tried to do everything they can for this place. I don't see why giving someone credit for what they did is such a tall ask. Did I get a little spicy? Probably. In the grand scheme of literally anything does a name on a theme matter? Not at all. Do I still care? Sure do.

    I don't know what you thought of me four years ago when I left but you respected me enough to make me MA and let me be part of the community. I'd hoped that my time here still warranted my theme getting it's due respect. I wanted it removed because I suspected it wouldn't be maintained, given the adoption rate at the time. I didn't want the one thing I'd made that was truly enjoyed to fall by the wayside and rot. I did want some sort of legacy to come back to and whip it out with some razzle dazzle.

    I came back to find it entirely altered and without credit given to the person who made it. I came back to find that a person I deeply respected decided to lie to me and others I respected went along with it.

    Anywho, I've said my peace now. Add my name to my theme or don't. Now I've shit on myself over this anyway.
     
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  38. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    So I was going to compare the codes and post here how different they were but it turns out you actually edited a post you made five years ago to remove your original code. That’s fine, I can’t call you out on how different the theme is written but then you forfeit the ability to have your name on anything if you can’t provide proof you’ve even worked on it.

    Also you competely missed the point of @Water ‘s post. If you still wish to have your name somewhere , then ask the authors of the current version of the theme.

    Nobody here is lying to you, I don’t see why you decided to call people out for that. That was pretty random and uncalled for.

    I think it’s actually disgusting how you want to receive credit for a theme now since you believe mafia is in its grand revival. It’s very much like selling a business when you’re bankrupt and coming back to demand ownership after its booming.

    Again, since you seem to miss the point of every post,

    ASK THE CURRENT THEME AUTHORS IF THEY WANT TO INCLUDE YOU AS AN AUTHOR

    just thought I would say it again in case you missed it.

    I do recommend that you stay for more game nights. Perhaps it will inspire you to make another theme, maybe it could bring back one more active mafia player.

    Everyone appreciates the contributions made in tbe past, no doubt that the theme wouldn’t exist had you not written the original code. For that, I do thank you on others behalf, not that I’m an MA or have a right to do that.
     
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  39. Solace

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    And it seems you miss the point of all of my posts: the original author should always be credited. My name should never have been removed. So, if it shouldn't ever have been removed, and far as I was told before leaving it wouldn't be, why should I beg for credit? Why should I need to ask to be on my theme? That's never been done before to my knowledge.

    I look like an opportunist now only because Fuzzy went back on his word on what was to be done with the theme and no one stopped him (he's the aforementioned liar).

    If you want a Flock 2, make a Flock 2 and retire Flock with my name on it.

    Imagine if tomorrow you quit and everyone decides to just Find and Replace your name everywhere on the forum and in all of your themes after telling you they wouldn't. Well, RIP. Guess you're dead now and people only care what about what they can get from your corpse. No funeral, no tombstone to remember you by. "Just grab his shit and go, everyone! Sucks to be that guy! Hope I don't ever die! You guys won't rob my grave right?"
     
  40. Veteran Padgett

    Veteran Padgett TFT Main Developer Developer

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