Pokemon (original)

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  1. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    I have no permission from Cake (but Cake's been gone for about half a year, so I assume she's gone, and no one's claimed it that I know of). And after three themes that are (still) in review I think I need to add a fourth to the wall of fame shame.
    (01:36:07) ±QueryBot: Demonic Cake was last seen: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:00:00 GMT

    If Cake comes back, I'll give it to her, since it's rightfully her theme. But for now, I guess I'll run it straight into hell take care of it and stuff. Balance is also something I remember was a problem when the server wiped all the themes (back in Aug or September '12).

    Raw link: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=afVeDXrS

    Changes:
    • Removed Regi Mafia, Wobuffet, and Rotom.
    • Turned Missigno's kill into a curse that turns them into a Magikarp after a day. In bigger games, can use it twice. Still kills distracters.
    • Removed Chinchou, Tepig, Oshawott and Snivy.
    • Removed Ditto from spawn.
    • Pushed Milotic's spawn farther (into roles5).
    • Removed Krookodile.
    • Gave Celebi a detox and dispel, which can be used every other night.
    • Made the Eon Mafia unhaxable (inspect from Latias, protect from Latios).
    • Changed Giratina's kefkakill into a stalk instead, which pierces safeguard.
    • Pushed Bronzong later into games, removing him from roles2 or roles3 entirely (not sure which one xD).
    • Removed Stunfisk.

    Raw code:
    {
    "changelog": {
    "9.16.2013": "Added Rotom, who gets 0.5 votes but they multiply by 2 every turn. (he evades Gyarados' Hyper Beam) - Matt",
    "9.20.2013": "Removed Regi Mafia, Wobuffet, and Rotom. Turned Missigno's kill into a curse that turns them into a Magikarp after a day. In bigger games, can use it twice. Still kills distracters. Removed Chinchou, Tepig, Oshawott and Snivy. Removed Ditto from spawn. Pushed Milotic's spawn farther (into roles5). Removed Krookodile. Gave Celebi a detox and dispel. Made the Eon Mafia unhaxable (inspect from Latias, protect from Latios). Changed Giratina's kefkakill into a stalk instead, which pierces safeguard. Pushed Bronzong later into games, removing him from roles2 or roles3 entirely (not sure which one xD). Removed Stunfisk."
    },
    "name": "Pokemon",
    "author": ["Cake", "Matt Ayala"],
    "summary": "The legendaries are not your friends...except Celebi. Fight against the rogue Bidoof and the malevolent Missingno, and then the Eon Mafia and Deoxys! Watch out for Arceus who kills both day and night, and Mewtwo (99 votes) and Mew (killer who can't be haxed). On the side of Treasure Town, the wonder of Shiny Magikarp and Farfetch'd are your Samurais! Win the battle to save Treasure Town! Type /changelog to find out what's changed!",
    "sides": [
    {
    "side": "village",
    "translation": "Treasure Town",
    "winmsg": "Treasure Town was saved by the hard-working actions of the residents, ~Players~, who continue to live a happy life in the town to this day."
    },
    {
    "side": "bidoof",
    "translation": "Bidoof Mafia",
    "winmsg": "Before long, the Bidoof Mafia (~Players~) had taken over, making all the other Pokemon their servants..."
    },
    {
    "side": "glitch",
    "translation": "Missingno",
    "winmsg": "No one could stop the corruption of ~Players~ and the game file was lost to Missingno!"
    },
    {
    "side": "eon",
    "translation": "Eon Mafia",
    "winmsg": "Latias is red, Latios is blue, Cresselia is pastel and they (~Players~) defeated you!"
    },
    {
    "side": "arceus",
    "translation": "Arceus",
    "winmsg": "Arceus (~Players~) began to remake the world, purifying it of all the 'bad' presences it had to defeat to recreate it!"
    },
    {
    "side": "mewtwo",
    "translation": "Psychic Felines",
    "winmsg": "Mewhahaha! The Psychic Felines, ~Players~, defeated all opposition, and began to make the world how it used to be."
    },
    {
    "side": "deoxys",
    "translation": "Deoxys",
    "winmsg": "Having won the battle, Deoxys (~Players~) destroyed the world, getting its revenge on Arceus!"
    },
    {
    "side": "dragon",
    "translation": "Creation Trio",
    "winmsg": "The dragons of creation (~Players~) took control of the world!"
    },
    {
    "side": "wish",
    "translation": "Wishmaker",
    "winmsg": "Uwaaaah... ~Players~, Jirachi, defeated the distractions and was able to sleep in peace..."
    }
    ],
    "roles": [
    {
    "role": "glitch",
    "translation": "Missingno",
    "side": "glitch",
    "help": "0 ERROR. You are the mysterious glitch that is Missingno, here to take over for yourself. Use /glitch to corrupt a Pokemon's data, turning them into a Magikarp the next night! You corrupt anyone's data if they decide to distract you, however, you won't be able to use your /glitch!",
    "info": "A curser who turns roles into Magikarps after a day and kills distracters. Sided with Missingno.",
    "actions": {
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ChangeTarget",
    "hookermsg": "You tried to distract the Missingno and your data got corrupted!",
    "msg": "~Distracter~ came to you so you corrupted their data."
    },
    "night": {
    "glitch": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 4,
    "newRole": "karp",
    "convertmsg": "Missigno turned ~Old~ into a Magikarp! Everyone laughs!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "uberglitch",
    "translation": "Missingno",
    "side": "glitch",
    "help": "0 ERROR. You are the mysterious glitch that is Missingno, here to take over for yourself. Use /glitch to corrupt a Pokemon's data, turning them into a Magikarp the next night! You can use this twice! You corrupt anyone's data if they decide to distract you, however, you won't be able to use your /glitch!",
    "info": "A double curser who turns roles into Magikarps after a day and kills distracters. Sided with Missingno.",
    "actions": {
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ChangeTarget",
    "hookermsg": "You tried to distract the Missingno and your data got corrupted!",
    "msg": "~Distracter~ came to you so you corrupted their data."
    },
    "night": {
    "glitch": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 4,
    "newRole": "karp2",
    "limit": 2,
    "convertmsg": "Missigno turned ~Old~ into a Magikarp! Everyone laughs!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role" : "ditto",
    "translation" : "Ditto",
    "side" : "village",
    "help" : "Type /copy [name] to copy a Pokemon's identity! This won't work if someone isn't on your team!",
    "hide" : true,
    "actions" : {
    "night" : {
    "transform" : {
    "command" : "copy",
    "common" : "Self",
    "target" : "AnyButSelf",
    "copymsg" : "Ditto uses Transform, and becomes a ~New~!",
    "pierce" : true,
    "priority" : 24,
    "hide" : true,
    "copyAs" : {
    "karp" : ["mew", "karp", "karp2", "prokarp"],
    "ugly" : ["ugly"],
    "pretty" : ["pretty"],
    "crow" : ["crow", "crowlatios", "crowarceus"],
    "krow" : ["krowlatios", "krowarceus"],
    "gengar" : ["gengar"],
    "bomb" : ["bomb"],
    "bell" : ["bell"],
    "joltik" : ["joltik"],
    "gyarados" : ["gyarados", "gyarados2"]
    }
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "karp",
    "translation": "Magikarp",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Karp, karp. You are just a useless Magikarp...you can type /splash if you like, but it won't do anything.",
    "info": "A villager with a tiny chance of hax. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.05,
    "revealPlayer": 0.02
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "karp2",
    "translation": "Magikarp",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Karp, karp. You are just a useless Magikarp. You can type /splash *yourname* if you like, but it won't do anything...unless you're lucky.",
    "info": "A villager with a tiny chance of hax and a tiny chance of evolving. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "splash": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "gyarados2",
    "canConvert": [
    "karp2"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Magikarp evolved into Gyarados!",
    "failChance": 0.9,
    "pierce": true
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.05,
    "revealPlayer": 0.02
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "gyarados2",
    "translation": "Gyarados",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Roaaaar! You trained enough and evolved into Gyarados! You know your fellow Gyarados, and can defeat any non-Ghost with Hyper Beam every other turn! It's not the most accurate move, however, so it could miss.",
    "info": "A vigilante who knows the other Gyarados and kills every other turn with a 10% miss chance. Gets small hax on kills. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 21,
    "recharge": 2,
    "msg": "You were struck down by Gyarados' Hyper Beam...",
    "failChance": 0.1
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.05,
    "revealPlayer": 0.02
    }
    },
    "startup": "role-reveal"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "prokarp",
    "translation": "Shiny Magikarp",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You're just a Magika---wait, you're SHINY! Type /kill during the day to splash at an opponent whilst they're distracted by your rarity. And others won't be able to distinguish you from the normal Magikarp! Also, once 5 turns have passed, you can /evolve into Shiny Gyarados!",
    "info": "A non-revealing samurai who can evolve after 5 turns and reveals as a normal Magikarp. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "evolve": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "gyarados",
    "canConvert": [
    "prokarp"
    ],
    "initialrecharge": 5,
    "convertmsg": "Shiny Magikarp evolved into Shiny Gyarados!",
    "pierce": true
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Use Splash with /kill now!",
    "killmsg": "The Shiny Magikarp used Splash! ~Target~ died of laughter!"
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "karp"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "ugly",
    "translation": "Feebas",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Feebas are ugly. Eat more Pokeblocks! But at least you can stop a Pokemon acting (and hope they don't laugh) with /distract if you must.",
    "info": "An ugly distractor. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 1,
    "distractmsg": "Feebas distracted you...xD You laughed at it all night!",
    "teammsg": "Feebas distracted your partner, who was too busy laughing to team up with you and perform your ~Action~ xD"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "pretty",
    "translation": "Milotic",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Finally, you evolved into a beautiful Milotic! Type /distract twice during the night to stop two other Pokemon doing anything with your radiant beauty.",
    "info": "A beautiful distractor who can distract twice. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "distract": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 1,
    "limit": 2,
    "distractmsg": "Milotic came to you, her elegant beauty made you not want to do anything else for the whole night.",
    "teammsg": "Your partner was too busy staring at Milotic's radiance for you to perform your ~Action~..."
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bg",
    "translation": "Dragonite",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Saving Pokemon from being killed is the same as saving people from drowning, right? Use /protect during the night to fight off anyone attacking your target with your array of powerful moves. Your intelligence may also help you find the Stoutland! Jirachi will be unable to flinch you, as you have Inner Focus.",
    "info": "A bodyguard who might get hax on inspect and cannot be flinched (distracted) by Jirachi. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "distract": {
    "mode": {
    "ignore": [
    "jirachi"
    ]
    },
    "msg": "Your Inner Focus thwarted Jirachi's flinchhax!"
    },
    "hax": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealTeam": 0.33,
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    }
    },
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 5
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "spect",
    "translation": "Stoutland",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "WOOF. You are a loyal Stoutland. Use your skills at finding lost people to find out the identity of another Pokemon with /inspect! In the process, you might also find the Dragonite.",
    "info": "An inspector who might get hax on protect. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "protect": {
    "revealTeam": 0.33,
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    }
    },
    "night": {
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 30
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "celebi",
    "translation": "Celebi",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Unlike the other legendaries, you approve of Treasure Town, because of your friend Grovyle having helped the residents before. Your task is to stop Missingno; use /protect to stop Missingno's corruption before it happens - and shield them from nightkills. You may also find out who Missingno really is, and who they're corrupting! Every other turn, you can use /heal to get rid of someone's poison, and /cure to get rid of someone's curse from Missingno!",
    "info": "A protector who also safeguards while protecting, and can heal (detox) and cure (dispel) every other night. Small hax on poisons. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "protect": {
    "command": ["protect", "safeguard"],
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 4
    },
    "heal": {
    "command": "detox",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 9999,
    "recharge": 2
    },
    "cure": {
    "command": "dispel",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 9999,
    "recharge": 2
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "glitch": {
    "revealTeam": 0.3,
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    },
    "wisp": {
    "revealTeam": 0.3,
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    },
    "doom": {
    "revealTeam": 0.3,
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    },
    "toxic": {
    "revealTeam": 0.3,
    "revealPlayer": 0.1
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "dual",
    "translation": "Gallade",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "A talented warrior in both physical fighting and psychic assaults. Use /kill during the night to put your fighting skills to good use, and your psychic senses may pick up who else can kill!",
    "info": "A vigilante who might get hax on kill. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.15,
    "revealPlayer": 0.07
    }
    },
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 19,
    "msg": "Gallade defeated you in fair combat!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "lie",
    "translation": "Liepard",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are a sneaky Liepard and rigged the voting system...now your vote counts as two. While sneaking around, you might find out who is plotting to kill another, too!",
    "info": "A spy with two votes. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.15,
    "revealPlayer": 0.07
    }
    },
    "vote": 2
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "duck",
    "translation": "Farfetch'd",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You're seen as weak. This angers you. Use /kill during the day to prove your strength by defeating another Pokemon in battle for everyone to see! (Warning: This reveals you. Beware of Arceus's wrath.)",
    "info": "A revealing samurai. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Prove your strength with /kill!: ",
    "killmsg": "~Self~ picked up a leek and fought ~Target~ to the death with it!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "crow0",
    "translation": "Murkrow",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Caw! Some people don't like you much...they see you as Bidoof and try to get you killed!",
    "info": "A miller who inspects as Bidoof. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "bidoof"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "crow",
    "translation": "Murkrow",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Caw! Some people don't like you much...they see you as Bidoof and try to get you killed! After 3 turns, you can evolve with /evolve!",
    "info": "A miller that inspects as Bidoof and can evolve after 3 turns. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "evolve": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "krow",
    "canConvert": [
    "crow"
    ],
    "initialrecharge": 3,
    "convertmsg": "Murkrow evolved into Honchkrow!",
    "pierce": true
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "latios"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "crowlatios",
    "translation": "Murkrow",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Caw! Some people don't like you much...they see you as Latios and try to get you killed! However, Latias also sees you as Latios, use this to your advantage! Finally, after 3 turns, you can evolve with /evolve!",
    "info": "A miller that inspects as Latios and can evolve after 3 turns. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "evolve": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "krowlatios",
    "canConvert": [
    "crowlatios"
    ],
    "initialrecharge": 3,
    "convertmsg": "Murkrow evolved into Honchkrow!",
    "pierce": true
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "latios"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "crowarceus",
    "translation": "Murkrow",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Caw! Some people don't like you much...they see you as Arceus and try to get you killed! After 3 turns, you can evolve with /evolve!",
    "info": "A miller that inspects as Arceus and can evolve after 3 turns. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "evolve": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "krowarceus",
    "canConvert": [
    "crowarceus"
    ],
    "initialrecharge": 3,
    "convertmsg": "Murkrow evolved into Honchkrow!",
    "pierce": true
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "arceus"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "krow",
    "translation": "Honchkrow",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Caw! Since you evolved, Liepard respected you more and rigged your vote to 2! You can also find out who someone visited one night, with /stalk, and know your fellow 'Krow, whether they evolved or not! However, you're still seen as Bidoof.",
    "info": "A miller with 2 votes that inspects as Bidoof, can stalk and knows its fellow 'Krow. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2,
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": [
    "krow",
    "crowarceus",
    "krowarceus"
    ]
    },
    "night": {
    "stalk": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 39
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "latios"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "krowlatios",
    "translation": "Honchkrow",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Caw! Since you evolved, Liepard respected you more and rigged your vote to 2! You can also find out who someone visited one night, with /stalk, and know your fellow 'Krow, whether they evolved or not! However, you're still seen as Latios.",
    "info": "A miller with 2 votes that inspects as Latios, can stalk and knows its fellow 'Krow. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2,
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": [
    "krow",
    "crowarceus",
    "krowarceus"
    ]
    },
    "night": {
    "stalk": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 39
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "latios"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "krowarceus",
    "translation": "Honchkrow",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Caw! Since you evolved, Liepard respected you more and rigged your vote to 2! You can also find out who someone visited one night, with /stalk, and know your fellow 'Krow, whether they evolved or not! However, you're still seen as Arceus.",
    "info": "A miller with 2 votes that inspects as Arceus, can stalk and knows its fellow 'Krow. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 2,
    "startup": {
    "revealRole": [
    "krow",
    "crowlatios",
    "krowlatios"
    ]
    },
    "night": {
    "stalk": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 39
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "arceus"
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bidoof",
    "translation": "Bidoof",
    "side": "bidoof",
    "help": "Enough people disliked you for you to team up to do something about it, and the time for that is now! Use /kill to raise an army of Bidoof and destroy one hater!",
    "info": "A basic mafia. Sided with the Bidoof Army.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "You were overwhelmed by Bidoof..."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "latias",
    "translation": "Latias",
    "side": "eon",
    "help": "As the female twin of the Eon Dragons, you are looking for your lost twin Latios. Use /inspect to identify a Pokemon with your power, and /kill to stop anyone in your way; you share this with your partners although are not told their targets. Have no fear, you are unable to kill your twin, and your kills also are hidden from spies.",
    "info": "A killer and inspector who must find but cannot kill her teammates. Sided with the Eon Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "msg": "The psychic assaults of the Eons brought you down..."
    },
    "inspect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 38
    }
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill",
    "inspect"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "latios",
    "translation": "Latios",
    "side": "eon",
    "help": "As the male twin of the Eon Dragons, you are looking for your lost twin Latias. Once you find each other, use /protect to protect her, and /kill to stop anyone in your way; you share this with your partners although are not told their targets. Have no fear, you are unable to kill your twin, and your kills also are hidden from spies.",
    "info": "A killer and protector who must find but cannot kill his teammates. Sided with the Eon Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "msg": "The psychic assaults of the Eons brought you down..."
    },
    "protect": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5
    }
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill",
    "protect"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "arceus",
    "translation": "Arceus",
    "side": "arceus",
    "help": "You created this world, and now you wish to destroy it. Use /kill during both the day and the night to use Judgment on another Pokemon, leading you one step closer to your goal...you will destroy anyone who attempts to stop you.",
    "info": "A day and night killer who destroys distractors and cannot be haxed. Sided with itself.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 20,
    "msg": "Once Arceus decided to stop you, there was nothing you could do..."
    }
    },
    "distract": {
    "mode": "ChangeTarget",
    "hookermsg": "For attempting to stop it, Arceus called a meteor down upon you...",
    "msg": "~Distracter~ came to stop you, but it was a worthless sacrifice..."
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill"
    ],
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Use Judgment now, with /kill!",
    "killmsg": "Arceus used Judgment on ~Target~! ~Target~ was obliterated..."
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mewtwo",
    "translation": "Mewtwo",
    "side": "mewtwo",
    "help": "Your psychic powers allow you to (almost) instantly kill anyone with your 99 votes during the voting phase, unless Bronzong decides to intervene...beware of Rotom too! As a clone, you feel no empathy for others, however have teamed with Mew due to being a clone of her.",
    "info": "A role with 99 votes. Sided with the Psychic Felines.",
    "winIfDeadRoles": [
    "prokarp",
    "dual",
    "duck",
    "bidoof",
    "glitch",
    "uberglitch",
    "latias",
    "latios",
    "arceus",
    "gengar",
    "bibarel",
    "deoxys",
    "deoxysa",
    "deoxysd",
    "deoxyss",
    "bell",
    "moon",
    "dialga",
    "palkia",
    "giratina",
    "giratinao",
    "jirachi",
    "gyarados",
    "gyarados2"
    ],
    "actions": {
    "vote": 99,
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "gengar",
    "translation": "Gengar",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Mehehehee! You lurk in shadows, looking for a victim. Use /kill to drag anyone, even those protected, into the darkness!",
    "info": "A vigilante who kills through protection. Ignores Gyarados' kill. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 3,
    "msg": "Gengar's speed surprised you, and you were too stunned to fight back!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bibarel",
    "translation": "Bibarel",
    "side": "bidoof",
    "help": "Leader of the Bidoof Mafia, you will lead them to victory! Use /kill to destroy a hater, separate from the Bidoof!",
    "info": "A basic mafia who gets a separate kill from the Bidoof. Sided with the Bidoof Army.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 12,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "Bibarel's surprising strength took you down..."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bomb",
    "translation": "Electrode",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Kaboom! As an Electrode, your job is to explode, and with your special Aftermath ability you obtained from a world of dreams, when you're attacked you'll explode, taking your attacker with you! And if anyone attacks you during the day, you'll use Explosion and defeat them. However, your vote counts as 0 because others avoid you.",
    "info": "A day and night bomb with a vote of 0. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "kill": {
    "mode": "killattacker",
    "msg": "±Electrode: BOOM! You tried to target Electrode, who exploded and made you faint!"
    },
    "daykill": "bomb",
    "daykillrevengemsg": "KABOOM! ~Target~ tried to kill Electrode, who used Explosion! ~Self~ fainted! ~Target~ fainted!",
    "vote": 0
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "deoxys",
    "translation": "Deoxys",
    "side": "deoxys",
    "help": "An alien locked in an eternal war against Arceus, you are jealous of his creation and wish to rule the world. In Normal forme, if you are voted for then 3 votes will be taken from you, and can kill with /meteor. Use /attack, /defense or /speed on yourself to change formes!",
    "info": "A killer who can change to Attack, Defense or Speed formes and has a voteshield of 3. Sided with itself.",
    "actions": {
    "voteshield": -3,
    "night": {
    "attack": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxysa",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxys"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Attack forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "defense": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxysd",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxys"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Defense forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "speed": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxyss",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxys"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Speed forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "meteor": {
    "command": "kill",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 17,
    "msg": "Deoxys struck you with a meteor!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "deoxysa",
    "translation": "Attack Deoxys",
    "side": "deoxys",
    "help": "An alien locked in an eternal war against Arceus, you are jealous of his creation and wish to rule the world. In Attack forme, you can kill during the day and the night, with /kill. Use /normal, /defense or /speed on yourself to change formes!",
    "info": "A day and night killer who can change to Normal, Defense or Speed formes. Sided with itself.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "normal": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxys",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxysa"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Normal forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "defense": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxysd",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxysa"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Defense forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "speed": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxyss",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxysa"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Speed forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 17,
    "msg": "Deoxys' power overwhelmed you..."
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Take another step towards ruling the world now, with /kill!",
    "killmsg": "Deoxys swoops down from space in Attack forme, and calls a meteor down on ~Target~ which destroys them instantly!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "deoxysd",
    "translation": "Defense Deoxys",
    "side": "deoxys",
    "help": "An alien locked in an eternal war against Arceus, you are jealous of his creation and wish to rule the world. In Defense forme, you have a 50% chance of evading any nightkill, can poison with /toxic, and are immune to daykills. Use /attack, /normal or /speed on yourself to change formes!",
    "info": "A poisoner who evades daykills and has a 50% chance to evade any nightkill, who can poison and change to Normal, Attack or Speed formes. Sided with itself.",
    "actions": {
    "kill": {
    "mode": {
    "evadeChance": 0.5
    }
    },
    "night": {
    "attack": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxysa",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxysd"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Attack forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "normal": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxys",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxysd"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Normal forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "speed": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxyss",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxysd"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Speed forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "toxic": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 11,
    "command": "poison",
    "poisonDeadMessage": "Defense Deoxys stalled you with Toxic..."
    }
    },
    "daykill": "evade"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "deoxyss",
    "translation": "Speed Deoxys",
    "side": "deoxys",
    "help": "An alien locked in an eternal war against Arceus, you are jealous of his creation and wish to rule the world. In Speed forme, you can kill with /kill, and this kill will bypass protections. Use /attack, /defense or /normal on yourself to change formes!",
    "info": "A killer that bypasses protections and can change to Normal, Attack or Defense formes. Sided with itself.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "attack": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxysa",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxyss"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Attack forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "defense": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxysd",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxyss"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Defense forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "normal": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "deoxys",
    "canConvert": [
    "deoxyss"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Deoxys changed to Normal forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 2,
    "msg": "Deoxys' speed overwhelmed you, and you were unable to fight back!"
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "bell",
    "translation": "Bronzong",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "A counter to Mewtwo, you have dedicated your life to being able to take out this threat, and can protect any user in the voting phase with your -9998 votes! You can still lose to Mewtwo in a one-on-one battle though, so be wary!",
    "info": "A role with -98 votes, for taking out Mewtwo. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": -98
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "moon",
    "translation": "Cresselia",
    "side": "eon",
    "help": "The Lati twins are your friends, so you decided to help them find each other; you have to find them yourself though, first. Type /kill to shine the power of the moon on an opponent, defeating them - you will be unable to defeat the Lati twins, so don't worry; you share this with your partners although are not told their targets. Once you find one, use /safeguard to protect it from Missingno's corruption!",
    "info": "A killer and safeguarder who must find but cannot kill her teammates. Sided with the Eon Mafia.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 11,
    "msg": "The psychic assaults of the Eons brought you down..."
    },
    "safeguard": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 5
    }
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "kill"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "mew",
    "translation": "Mew",
    "side": "mewtwo",
    "help": "Mewww~ You wish to restore the world to its original state, however you can no longer count on Arceus's help due to his insanity, so you decided to remake it with your clone, Mewtwo's, help; however the other Pokemon always got in your way wanting you to play with them. Enraged by this, you masqueraded as a Magikarp with Transform, and can now defeat them with /splash - no one will be able to detect you are not truly a Magikarp.",
    "info": "A killer who inspects as a Magikarp, cannot be haxed, and gets hax herself. Sided with the Psychic Felines.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "splash": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 13,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "command": "kill",
    "msg": "Magikarp used Splash! It's a 1HKO...Mew defeated you!"
    }
    },
    "inspect": {
    "revealAs": "karp"
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    "hax": {
    "kill": {
    "revealTeam": 0.1,
    "revealPlayer": 0.05
    }
    },
    "avoidHax": [
    "splash"
    ]
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "dialga",
    "translation": "Dialga",
    "side": "dragon",
    "help": "You are Dialga, ruler of time! Use /kill during the night to defeat your opponents...you may also use Roar of Time with /kill during the day, however be warned that this may reveal you, and you will need to recharge.",
    "info": "A killer with a daykill that has a chance of revealing and can be used every other day. Sided with the Creation Trio.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 15,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The power of time and space was too much for you to handle..."
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "msg": "Use your mighty roar with /kill!",
    "killmsg": "Dialga uses Roar of Time, defeating ~Target~ instantly!",
    "revealChance": 0.25,
    "revealmsg": "~Self~ needs to recharge!",
    "recharge": 2
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "palkia",
    "translation": "Palkia",
    "side": "dragon",
    "help": "You are Palkia, ruler of space! Use /kill during the night to defeat your opponents, and due to your spatial powers, your vote counts as 3!",
    "info": "A killer with 3 votes. Sided with the Creation Trio.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 3,
    "night": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Team",
    "priority": 15,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "msg": "The power of time and space was too much for you to handle..."
    }
    },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "giratina",
    "translation": "Giratina",
    "side": "dragon",
    "help": "You are Giratina, ruler of the Distortion World, in your Altered forme! Use /wisp twice to burn two opponents who will faint the following night. Being from the Distortion World has affected your vote, making it count as -2; you also have a 20% chance of evading kills! Use /change to change into your Origin forme!",
    "info": "A poisoner who can poison twice, has a 20% chance of evading kills, a vote of -2, and can transform into Origin forme. Ignores Gyarados' kill. Sided with the Creation Trio.",
    "actions": {
    "kill": {
    "mode": {
    "ignore": ["gyarados2"]
    }
    },
    "night": {
    "change": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "giratinao",
    "canConvert": [
    "giratina"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Giratina changed formes to its Origin forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "wisp": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 10,
    "command": "poison",
    "broadcast": "team",
    "limit": 2,
    "poisonDeadMessage": "You were hurt by your burn, and fainted!"
    }
    },
    "vote": -2,
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "giratinao",
    "translation": "Origin Giratina",
    "side": "dragon",
    "help": "You are Giratina, ruler of the Distortion World, in your Origin forme! Use /sneak to find out what someone has been doing during the night! Being from the Distortion World has affected your vote, making it count as -2; you also have a 10% chance of evading kills! Use /change to change into your Altered forme!",
    "info": "A stalker who has a 10% chance of evading kills, a vote of -2, and can change into its Altered forme. Ignores Gyarados' kill. Sided with the Creation Trio.",
    "actions": {
    "kill": {
    "mode": {
    "ignore": ["gyarados2"]
    }
    },
    "night": {
    "change": {
    "command": "convert",
    "target": "OnlySelf",
    "common": "Role",
    "priority": 5,
    "newRole": "giratina",
    "canConvert": [
    "giratinao"
    ],
    "convertmsg": "Giratina changed formes to its Altered forme!",
    "pierce": true
    },
    "sneak": {
    "target": "AnyButTeam",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 10000,
    "command": "stalk",
    "broadcast": "team",
    "pierce": true
    }
    },
    "vote": -2,
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "jirachi",
    "translation": "Jirachi",
    "side": "wish",
    "winningSides": "*",
    "help": "Make a wish...as Jirachi, you can flinchhax two of your opponents during the night with /flinch, stopping them acting! You may also use /doom to use Doom Desire, causing the afflicted player to faint two turns later. And finally, the two psychics who can block your Doom Desire may be revealed to you! You will win as long as you aren't defeated, as you are only awake due to the ongoing war!",
    "info": "A poisoner who's poison takes two turns to kill, who can distract twice and get hax on safeguarding. Sided with itself, however can win with anyone.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "flinch": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 1,
    "command": "distract",
    "limit": 2,
    "distractmsg": "Jirachi flinchhaxed you with Serene Grace's help, you were unable to do a thing tonight!",
    "teammsg": "So your partner got flinchhaxed by Jirachi. No ~Action~ for you tonight..."
    },
    "doom": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 11,
    "broadcast": "team",
    "command": "poison",
    "count": 3,
    "poisonDeadMessage": "Doom Desire hit! Jirachi's destiny has been completed..."
    }
    },
    "hax": {
    "safeguard": {
    "revealTeam": 0.15,
    "revealPlayer": 0.07
    }
    }
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "joltik",
    "translation": "Joltik",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Jolt ^-^ You are an adorable fluffy Joltik! You sleep during the night, but during the day you can reveal yourself with /reveal and connect your team~ Being alert during the day, you cannot be daykilled, but your vote counts only for 0.5.",
    "info": "An adorable revealer who cannot be daykilled and has a vote of 0.5. Sided with the Treasure Town.",
    "actions": {
    "vote": 0.5,
    "standby": {
    "reveal": {
    "limit": 1,
    "msg": "Reveal now with /reveal!",
    "revealmsg": "Joltiiiik! ~Self~ is all fuzzy and adorable, and so gains attention."
    }
    },
    "daykill": "evade"
    }
    },
    {
    "role": "gyarados",
    "translation": "Shiny Gyarados",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "ROAAAAAAR! You evolved into Gyarados, and with that, gained the power of intimidation! Therefore, you have a 10% chance of avoiding any nightkill, and you can still daykill as before, with your powerful Aqua Tail! However, you are no longer seen as a normal Magikarp.",
    "actions": {
    "kill": {
    "mode": {
    "evadeChance": 0.1
    }
    },
    "standby": {
    "kill": {
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "msg": "Use Aqua Tail with /kill now!",
    "killmsg": "The Shiny Gyarados used Aqua Tail! A critical hit! ~Target~ fainted!"
    }
    }
    }
    }
    ],
    "roles1": [
    "bg",
    "spect",
    "ugly",
    "bidoof",
    "glitch",
    "karp",
    "crow0",
    "bidoof",
    "lie",
    "karp"
    ],
    "roles2": [
    "bg",
    "spect",
    "ugly",
    "bidoof",
    "karp",
    "crow0",
    "bidoof",
    "lie",
    "karp",
    "crow",
    "karp",
    "mew",
    "bibarel",
    "dual",
    "duck",
    "karp"
    ],
    "roles3": [
    "bg",
    "spect",
    "ugly",
    "latias",
    "karp2",
    "crowlatios",
    "latios",
    "lie",
    "karp2",
    "mew",
    "crowarceus",
    "arceus",
    "dual",
    "duck",
    "karp2",
    "karp2",
    "crow",
    "joltik",
    "jirachi",
    "uberglitch"
    ],
    "roles4": [
    "bg",
    "spect",
    "ugly",
    "latias",
    "dialga",
    "karp2",
    "crowlatios",
    "latios",
    "lie",
    "karp2",
    "palkia",
    "mew",
    "crowarceus",
    "arceus",
    "giratina",
    "duck",
    "mewtwo",
    "deoxys",
    "bomb",
    "joltik",
    "jirachi",
    "uberglitch",
    "celebi",
    "bell",
    "prokarp",
    "karp2"
    ],
    "roles5": [
    "bg",
    "spect",
    "pretty",
    "latias",
    "dialga",
    "karp2",
    "crowlatios",
    "latios",
    "lie",
    "karp2",
    "palkia",
    "mew",
    "crowarceus",
    "arceus",
    "giratina",
    "duck",
    "mewtwo",
    "deoxys",
    "bomb",
    "joltik",
    "jirachi",
    "uberglitch",
    "celebi",
    "bell",
    "prokarp",
    "karp2",
    "gengar",
    "moon",
    "karp2",
    "dual",
    "bg",
    "karp2",
    "glitch",
    "lie",
    "bomb",
    "karp2"
    ],
    "villageCantLoseRoles": [
    "prokarp",
    "dual",
    "lie",
    "duck",
    "bomb",
    "gengar",
    "gyarados",
    "gyarados2",
    "krowarceus",
    "krowlatios"
    ],
    "killmsg": "+Trainer: ~Player~ (~Role~) fainted!",
    "killusermsg": "***You fainted!"
    }
    [/HIDE]

    So yeah thanks for checking this out, I knew I picked the wrong time to bring it up since we're getting new QCs but it's something the new ones can jump on right away, I guess?
     
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  2. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    (01:25:03) ±QueryBot: Cake was last seen: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 21:19:01 GMT
    Also, they are on another alt, but they didn't want me to share that it was them. Cake is still around, not sure about the status of the theme though.
     
  3. Sr Betato

    Sr Betato Sir Betato

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    I Think Cake is online on the server for about yesterday or idk, or maybe he/she is not active on the forums for the time being.
     
  4. Light Yagami.

    Light Yagami. Banned

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    Just saying that the Pokémon team is a kill fest you know? Also it has lots of sides and many actions.. Like take away or merge the sides. I think you should remove Wobbuffet, Creation Trio and Bidoof Army. My thing
     
  5. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    I'm confused as of what to do. Should I keep the theme up, or what? given that cake was around, I don't want to feel like I'm stealing her creation, but you did say you didnt want me to share it with you...

    Also, Light Yagami. Bidoof only appears in Roles1 and Roles2, so them removed would be kind of a problem. Wobuffet is a key role really, because it keeps all the killers and daykillers on edge while also causing confusion. Not sure about Creation Trio...

    Also, for the time being, I won't be able to be on Mafia as much. I downloaded a virus (from TPB -_-) and yeah I'm pretty much using my guest account till now.
     
  6. Light Yagami.

    Light Yagami. Banned

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    Pokemon? wtf
    How does one pokemon keep all the killers in check? And that still won't fix the huge amount of actions (mostly kills) on a whole, and the amount of sides. I will have to decl-never mind :cool:
     
  7. Roild

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    Looking over, excessive sides. Can you do a spawn explanation to show what sides per spawn?

    But, um... Rotom is quite silly. Hell, most solo roles look a bit silly. There's a lot and most of this just didn't work the first time, I don't really expect it to work a second time. So many roles to learn in this theme. Village is highly PR-heavy. There aren't villagers in some spawns. Giving everyone a power isn't really positive. In general, this theme was changed for a reason. Decline [1]
     
  8. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    This theme was pretty much carbon copied from Cake. I'll promise to change some things, but this theme is classic, I don't want to ruin it, so I'm stuck on what to do.

    If you want my honest opinion, no one wants to be a villager, and just sit there and do nothing. But then again, villagers do prevent (in a complex way) PRs from dying. Also, village is reliant on Gengar, Krookodile and Gallade to get the night actions done. I will see what I can do. Thank you for the criticism though, greatly appreciate your input.

    Edit:

    • Removed Regi Mafia, Wobuffet, and Rotom.
    • Turned Missigno's kill into a curse that turns them into a Magikarp after a day. In bigger games, can use it twice. Still kills distracters.
    • Removed Chinchou, Tepig, Oshawott and Snivy.
    • Removed Ditto from spawn.
    • Pushed Milotic's spawn farther (into roles5).
    • Removed Krookodile.
    • Gave Celebi a detox and dispel, which can be used every other night.
    • Made the Eon Mafia unhaxable (inspect from Latias, protect from Latios).
    • Changed Giratina's kefkakill into a stalk instead, which pierces safeguard.
    • Pushed Bronzong later into games, removing him from roles2 or roles3 entirely (not sure which one xD).
    • Removed Stunfisk.
     
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  9. Roild

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    Yeah, I know. And it was really bad for many reasons. Not sure how it got accepted. Everything has an ability and too much stuff and all those sides are generally meh. Pokemon's a large theme, so the sides can be accepted since appear in different spawn sizes, but all of that also creates a general imbalance in terms of mafia for many size amounts.
     
  10. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    I found it fun. I remember some statistics show it was a really popular theme (rivaled Kirby, SSBB, SSBB+, etc), but balance was a huge issue. Back then there were less regulations on spawn, balance, and stuff. There were no places to openly discuss themes and their problems, as well as suggestions (unless you messaged the author yourself)
     
  11. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    The original Pokemon theme was changed for a reason.... as Roild said Decline [2]
     
  12. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    I have my doubts over the "this theme was changed for a reason" argument. It sounds like this theme, even after Matt said he made changes, is being rejected because the previous one was. Some proper arguments as to why the theme is being declined would be appreciated.
    IMO, the original (AKA this one before the modifications) was better than the modified version. The 2nd version Cake was forced to make was far more messy than this one and barely encouraged teamwork.
     
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  13. Roild

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    The previous theme was accepted, actually. The problem it had was that every role as a PR and games were mostly just "use all of your actions without any thought about others!" which doesn't work too well for a classic village-style mafia. It might work in other things, but not really here. Balance was way off and it isn't even fair at that point. One side would continuously win too many games. Trying to copy that setup for how it was just doesn't work. Better off starting over with some basic core ideas from this theme and possible pokemon favorites, then making the theme work. Building on top of the somewhat broken core won't be too effective either.
     
  14. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    thanks, that was going to be my argument as well, Rice. legendaries being defeated by little bugs didnt make sense at all. If I could get a better explanation as to why you declined, Mewtwo, I would appreciate it. I mean, I changed it a whole lot, toned done a lot of the sides, gave less kills, removed some sides altogether, and i'm seeing that it still doesn't satisfy :/
     
  15. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    It was Pokemon II that got accepted. Pokemon I (AKA this one minus Matt's changes) was uploaded before the Mafia Review system was created, and then rejected with some fairly awkward reviews. Pokemon I's core worked, but most of the reviews it got at the time said the theme was bad because of roles meant exclusively for massive games (30+ players) and excess of sides (when they rotate, so only a few sides would be in each game).
     
  16. Roild

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    Ah. Yeah, those cycles really hurt more than help too.
     
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    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    I actually think 'Pokemon I' had the best spawn list of all themes. When I mentioned the reviews the theme got, I was pointing to how those were hardly a problem enough to get a theme rejected.
    Swapping sides was a good way to make mafia able to cope with the increase of numbers village would get (instead of simply adding more players to that mafia). The spawn lists were not perfect, but it was better than Village getting Samurai and even a 2nd BG while IM/FCM only get another mafia member.
     
  18. Roild

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    I actually like split spawns. There's just way too many in this one. Essentially learning a new theme every amount. ~3 spawn sizes is probably fine. Small, medium, large. Some people overlapping possibly, but not necessary.
     
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    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    I have to agree. Bidoof is just a basic mafia that appears, and so were the Regis, but they were just holding space. Too many kills, as well, ruined the game for everyone at some point.
     
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    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    I have to agree. Bidoof is just a basic mafia that appears, and so were the Regis, but they were just holding space. Too many kills, as well, ruined the game for everyone at some point.
     
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    Stocke Wat is dis I don't even

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    There are like a million roles and sides, are they really necessary? And hax, hax everywhere, hax for you, hax for me, hax for everyone. Same thing for kills and actions, everyone gets some. Jirachi is yet another full conspirator. I don't like those, I feel they're an excuse to claim and go afk for the whole game or add a lot of chaos to the game if they get any power, and oh my has Jirachi some. 5 role lists. Hardly any villagers so fakeclaiming roles is even more difficult.

    I appreciate the effort you put into this, but still I don't think that this theme is getting anywhere. Decline [3]
     
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    Spawn 1:

    7v2v1- decent enough balance numberwise. However, with the inspector and BG having hax on each other and nothing stopping them from spamming their commands, they'll be connected immediately. Missingo stops Dragonite from claiming immediately (which is good) but if it dies to Liepard or Bidoof x-fire, the mafia is done for. Missingno will have a very difficult time winning on his own. I'd actually say it's impossible. If he doesn't die to x-fire, he'll be voted out by a village that will very likely be connected.

    Spawn 2:
    Mew is extremely weak as a solo role.
    The village is extremely OP. 12v3v1 balance with the village getting three vigilantes.

    Spawn 3:
    Arceus isn't very strong as a solo role. Mew is pathetic as a solo in this spawn.
    The village is now beyond overpowered given the fact that you've added a role specifically with the task of connecting the team. There is no hope for any other side winning.

    Spawns 4 and 5:
    Why do these exist? As Roild said, split spawns are fine but 5 is an excessive number. The balance in these spawns also looks no better than in the other three.

    General Notes:
    -Mewtwo's help mentions a Rotom role that doesn't exist.
    -Murkrow's (proto "crow" version) info says that it is inspected as Bidoof when revealing as Latios is coded.
    -Bidoof Mafia is extremely generic.
    -Missingno can't win alone.
    -The Eon Mafia needs to be connected from the start to be effective.
    -There are a ton of kills in this. Half the players will die n1.
    -The number of sides can probably be reduced. The number of different roles probably can as well. This will go along with fixing the spawnlists.

    The balance is extremely town-sided and the theme is generally just too large and too confusing and some of the flavor makes little sense. Take this back to Critique and we can help you there but, for now, this is far from server-ready and has no place in Review.

    Decline [4]
     
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    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    I strongly disagree with this part. Having 4~5 spawns lists is fairly normal for a theme that needs to tightly control the spawn of some roles, which is the case here. As an example, Weapons also has 4 Spawn Lists, and it could easily have more.

    Quite sure Bidoof Mafia is meant for small games only. The biggest game with Bidoof Mafia is 16 players, where Bibarel is already in, making them basically the same as Vaati/Vaati Minions

    Am I the only one to think that it doesn't have that many sides? Weapons has the same number as this (9) and SSBB has more, yet none of those are a problem because in all those themes there's some kind of side rotation.
    And sides/roles rotation is actually a good thing. Otherwise, we will keep seeing people complaining about how WW/Basilisk/other similar roles are Underpowered in large games, since such roles are meant for small games, and keeping them all the way up to large games will only make them unbalanced, so I don't get why Pokemon (specially the old version) gets bashed for solving an issue that's being complained about in several other themes.
     
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    I know nothing of old arguments regarding this theme. I based my comments entirely on the code I read.
    And, regardless of anything else at all, I'd still decline the theme based on the complete imbalance at all player counts.

    Edit:
    And saying "x" is basically like "y" is what "generic" means. >_>
     
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    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    I'm not arguing against the balance arguments, but I feel that, if those small nitpicks I picked are not made clear, the theme could end with more problems than now if the author decides to follow them all to fit the QC feedback, since those I pointed are quite debatable.
     
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    Split roles lists are fine if they are meant to change or increase from a previous roles list in order to preserve balance or even change things up between some things. I would be fine with 5 roles list if it was to A) Address a change up in the game's amounts of PRs B) Balance mafia to fit the amount of PRs or C) introduce different roles while keeping balance amongst a general core of roles. I use multiple roles list too (5 in Eclipse) to keep balance and upgrade roles slowly (while keeping village:mafia ratios close enough). I believe this theme would be better if you start from scratch and create a better way of holding balance. I can personally think of a few good ones, but that is more theme critique and help stuff than reviewing. For review, this has my decline.
     
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