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  1. Hannah

    Hannah Come a little closer

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    G E N E R A T I O N - B E A T S

    Hi there everyone this is my new UU team which I've been testing out quite recently and it's been doing amazing and ladder has been a breeze.

    The main goal of this team is to provide momentum through prediction and key switches and resistances to highlight the two titanic attackers, Victini and Slowking.
    I guess I'm posting this team so that some people can help me nitpick EVs as well as movesets since my knowledge of UU isn't as vast as the others.
    So, introducing the team!






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    Overseer (Slowking) (M) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Fire Blast
    - Grass Knot
    - Psyshock

    Slowking's amazing typing and ability lets him switch in with ease to many common UU threats and hit back with overwhelming force and amazing coverage.
    Despite it's speed, Slowking was meant to take a hit with his gargantuan Special defense, HP and resistances and hit like a firetruck.
    Prediction is key when it comes to use Slowking has forcing a switch out means you get the advantage of hitting common switch-ins with your vast coverage.
    Though all is not clear for Slowking since U-turn does hinder it giving the opponents momentum, we have Gligar to patch that up.
    Slowking also synergizes with Umbreon quite well since they can both navigate around Chandelure.


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    Siskataya (Victini) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Victory Star
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - V-create
    - Trick
    - Fusion Bolt
    - U-turn

    Originally a mixed set, I figured I should just hit something hard while I'm in since there are numerous threats that can force this midget out.
    Banded V-Create does amazing damage even to those that resist it providing amazing Physical presence as well as U-turn for predicted momentum.
    Fusion bolt helps me deal with Blastoise, Slowbro and Suicune and anything else that would switch in. 2HKOs the 3 with SR.
    Trick is used to cripple walls that would otherwise setup on it, and with proper prediction helps trick off an eviolite on Gligar.


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    Lillitie (Shaymin) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Seed Flare
    - Leech Seed
    - Psychic

    Shaymin is adorable ;_; Anyways. As I was watching the UU livestream, the Shaymin was named Hannah and I guessed I should just add her to the team!
    Shaymin is a great Pokemon since 100 base stats around give her great bulk as well as hitting capability thanks to the high BP of Seed Flare.
    Shaymin can setup subs and go for SubSeeding since it has great synergy with Victini.
    Psychic is used over Air Slash since I'm not a fan of the miss rate, and it Seed Flare can usually it things hard thanks to STAB.
    Whatever resists both wont appreciate being SubSeeded and I have plenty of checks to cover up Shaymin's general weaknesses.

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    Conductor (Raikou) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Volt Switch
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Thunderbolt
    - Extrasensory

    It's fast and it hits hard. Volt Switch is great momentum for the team since it lets me scout off switches with good damage with Raikou's speed.
    Bolt-Beam coverage do great in UU. Unfortunately it doesn't always hit as hard since I'm running a positive speed nature incase of those other pesky Scarfers.
    Probably one of the fastest threats in the tier with scarf, Raikou also acts as a great revenge killer.
    Extrasensory is added for general coverage, since Aura Sphere will cause me to run a Rash nature.
    Thunderbolt for sweeps obviously.


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    Umbridge (Umbreon) (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 252 HP / 212 SDef / 44 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Toxic
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Foul Play

    I really dislike using Umbreon since I'm not that good with maintaining Wish + Protect Pokemon but Chandelure is a threat.
    Nothing can safely switch in to a Shadow Ball so I decided to pack this specially defensive eeveelution and provide wish support.
    Due to the lack of spinners, Umbreon goes amazing with Victini since she can keep her healthy while still having enough bulk to act as a pivot.
    Foul Play is so I don't get completely walled with her subpar offenses.
    The Speed EVs given is to outspeed Hitmontop uninvested in speed so I can fire off a Toxic in a predicted Rapid spin and go to Gligar once again.

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    Amaranth (Gligar) (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Immunity
    EVs: 252 HP / 248 Def / 8 Spd
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Roost
    - Earthquake
    - U-turn

    I was having difficulty with Heracross and the likes which made me had to rethink team composition and had to fill in my last member.
    Was originally a Miltank, Gligar is the best solution to the fighting types in UU. He hits 500 defense and reasonable special defense to keep him running.
    U-turn is great momentum since I can switch in on any moves from Heracross and be slow enough to scout if he stays in to switch to either Raikou or Victini.
    Stealth Rocks are essential in the game since it helps Victini and Slowking nab a lot of OHKOs and 2HKOs.
    Has no kawaii picture though :(
    8 Speed is to creep other Gligar.



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    Overseer (Slowking) (M) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Fire Blast
    - Grass Knot
    - Psyshock

    Amaranth (Gligar) (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Immunity
    EVs: 252 HP / 248 Def / 8 Spd
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Roost
    - Earthquake
    - U-turn

    Siskataya (Victini) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Victory Star
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - V-create
    - Trick
    - Fusion Bolt
    - U-turn

    Lillitie (Shaymin) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Seed Flare
    - Leech Seed
    - Psychic

    Conductor (Raikou) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Volt Switch
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Thunderbolt
    - Extrasensory

    Umbridge (Umbreon) (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 252 HP / 212 SDef / 44 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Toxic
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Foul Play

     
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  2. Hannah

    Hannah Come a little closer

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    Importable with edited team!

    Things I've done:
    - Replaced Shaymin with Subseed Roserade, my own set which lets it outspeed all neutral base 100 and a little bulk on the side.
    - Replaced Raikou with Mienshao. I love Mienshao and Scarf Reckless HJK punches holes into any team while revenge-killing pretty well. Acrobatics over Aerial ace since I dont miss out on any crucial OHKOs or 2HKOs and his situational incase I get knocked off
    - Bolt Strike over Fusion bolt.
    - Lowered speed on Gligar to outspeed all -1 Max speed neutral Victini while U-turning slower than other Gliscor (which is pretty useful!) and invested a little on Special defense to tank some more hits.
    - Trick over Grass Knot on Slowking since I can already cripple Suicune with Trick or hinder other things like Blastoise with Psyshock.

    Overseer (Slowking) (M) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 248 SAtk / 8 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Fire Blast
    - Trick
    - Psyshock

    Amaranth (Gligar) (M) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Immunity
    EVs: 240 HP / 248 Def / 20 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Roost
    - Earthquake
    - U-turn

    Siskataya (Victini) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Victory Star
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - V-create
    - Trick
    - Bolt Strike
    - U-turn

    Kurama (Roserade) (M) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 28 SDef / 228 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Substitute
    - Giga Drain
    - Leech Seed

    Akachin (Mienshao) (F) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Reckless
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Hi Jump Kick
    - Acrobatics
    - U-turn
    - Stone Edge

    Umbridge (Umbreon) (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 252 HP / 212 SDef / 44 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Toxic
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Foul Play

     
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  3. Captain

    Captain Suns Out Guns Out

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    Hannah! Nice team, I'm not the best UU player... or well even a decent one but I know Victini and I wonder why you aren't using Bolt strike over Fushion bolt for that raw power, and with Victory star you have like 93 accuracy irrc?
    Maybe that can help :]
     
  4. Clarion

    Clarion Snow on the Sahara

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    HANNAH BANANA I LUV U A BUNCH <3

    This is a very synergistic one; good job for you. However, there's one crippling flaw you might not recognize, and it's the threat to entry hazards, MOST ESPECIALLY TOXIC SPIKES. You have literally nothing to respond to this kind of threat, so I suggest a Poison-type somewhere in the team (maybe Roserade or Amoonguss > Shaymin might work). But because your team is synergistic enough, good luck responding to it (besides, Toxic Spikes is kinda rare). And yes, Bolt Strike > Fusion Bolt on Victini. It's high-powered, and accuracy issues will be lessened thanks to Victory Star. Unless you fear of missing too much of it, then it's up to you.

    Hope I helped. Congratulations, and good luck with this undertaking!
     
  5. Um Hello?

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    For the Gligar EV's you don't want to be outspeeding other Gligars, as U-Turn is VERY common the only thing that happens when it's Gligar vs Gligar in basically every occurence is set up Stealth Rocks if not done already, then U-Turn out.

    You want to be slower than the other Gligar so you can generate switch momentum and not them.
    (Gligar vs Gligar isn't common but even so.)

    Nice team
     
  6. MewTheDestroyer

    MewTheDestroyer God

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    Definitely use Roserade > Shaymin, because Toxic Spikes destroy this team, and Roserade provides nice synergy.
     
  7. Afro Smash

    Afro Smash Mfw I'm living the Australian dream

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    Bolt strike > fusion bolt on victini
    Zen Headbutt > Trick on Victini
    Air Slash > Psychic on Shaymin (or just change to roserade)
    Scarf Mienshao/Heracross > Scarf Raikou
    Heal Bell > Toxic on Umbreon

    might edit in reasons later
     
  8. Mint!

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    Excellent team.
    Though as others suggested, you could go Roserade > Shaymin... or even Heal Bell > Foul Play because Umbreon won't be doing much damage.
    Offensive or defensive works on this team as they both have good synergy with the team... but since you're reserved you probably are fixing your Toxic Spikes problem.
    Good Luck.
     
  9. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    Threat List:
    Chandelure: Specs 2HKO's your entire team at the least, giving you no safe switches. Even Umbreon is cleanly 2HKO'd by Fire Blast.
    Umbreon: With only 1 very strong Physical attacker on your team, you have trouble with Umbreon, although Gligar can stall-war I guess.
    Victini: Only Mixtini, which is a threat to literally every team.
    Snorlax: Same as Umbreon
    Kingdra: DD Set can beat Gligar, and outspeed and KO a lot of your mons.
    Togekiss: NP Set serves as a great wallbreaker, whilst also being able to T-Wave your faster checks.
    Roserade: Nothing wants to take on a Specs set with it's perfect dual STAB against your team. Spikes can also ruin your day, with only 1 poke immune to them.
    Swampert: Banded can ruin your day. Only Shaymin can take it on 1 v 1, and that's if it can avoid Ice Punch.
    Darmanitan: Not even Gligar wants to take a banded hit.
    Shaymin: A Special Defence decrease on Umbreon can ruin its day, and the EP/SF combo can easily mess up your team. Only Victini can effectively revengekill, and even then, that's with a speed tie.
    Porygon2: Read Umbreon.
    Scrafty: Dragon Dance set ruins your team, as it can Ice Punch Gligar and outspeed your Victini after 1 boost, and take hits from Raikou.
    Yanmega: Raikou is good against it, but otherwise, it decimates your team.
    Weavile: Rips through your team after 1 SD, only Raikou can deal with it.
    Azumarill: Like Chandelure, can be revengekilled, but nobody wants to take a hit. Slowking isn't bad though.
    Sharpedo: If Shaymin is dead, this thing is the bane of your existence.
    Amoonguss: Sort of like Roserade, except less powerful and lacking spikes, but it does have Spore, which is a major pain for your team.

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    I'd personally suggest switching Umbreon for Rest Talk Snorlax. Snorlax can take on Chandelure, Togekiss, Shaymin, Yanmega, Amoonguss and special walls much easier and can also pose a problem to Roserade too.
     
  10. Hannah

    Hannah Come a little closer

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    First revision! Already changed <3 Thanks Captain :]

    Bolt Strike on Victini has been done. I picked Shaymin thanks to her high speed and cute looks, as well as Seed Flare. Though the latter reason has been annoying me since misses are unreliable. Any good sets you think will go together with the team? Considering Roserade is getting freed on PO soon, Shaymin is gonna get lost :(

    Thanks! Also noted, I'll decrease speed IVs so that it just barely outspeeds max speed Victini at -1.

    I mostly like Raikou since he's extremely fast and bulky while providing great coverage. Why switch for Mienshao though?

    I dislike having RestTalk Snorlax in my team :(

    Sleep mechanics are likely to fuck it over plus my team already has a lingering weakness with Heracross that Snorlax doesn't really aid. (but it having another fighting resist does ease up switches though)

    After reading through the threats list, I just realized how important Umbreon holds the team together.
     
  11. Afro Smash

    Afro Smash Mfw I'm living the Australian dream

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    Ok to follow up on my post, I'll actually give you some explanations.

    Zen Headbutt > Trick - The things that will be switching in to take V-Creates (Rhyperior, Swampert, Arcanine, Qwilfish) won't exactly be crippled from a choice band and could even potentially benefit from them depending on the game. And Zen Headbutt can be useful for when you don't want to make a risky prediction + for cleaning late game.

    Jolly Tini > Ada Tini - still outspeeds Gligar at -1 Speed, and I'm unaware of any OHKOs/2HKOs Jolly misses out on.

    Air Slash > Psychic - Puts the hurt on Grass types who want to come in on leech seed and deals massive damage to things like Virizion and Heracross.

    Possibly Roserade > Shaymin - Roserade can absorb t spikes, however you don't have a ghost to block rapid spin (were you to run spikes) and this would only confound your weakness to Snorlax.

    A Scarf Fighting type > Scarf Raikou - Snorlax is a huge problem to your team, it's thick fat ability means it can take on Victini, and it eats up the rest of your teams special attacks with ease. I guess Shaymin can wear it down with Leech Seed but you'd need a free switch in to it and even then it's not a long term solution. Scarf Hera gives you Sweeping potential, an answer to Snorlax and a mon that can switch into Umbreon relatively safely and proceed to threaten it (Victini can't because Foul Play). Also I've always felt Scarf Raikou just lacked enough power to ever sweep.

    Heal Bell > Toxic on Umbreon - Heal Bell + Synchronize is a match made in heaven, switching in on Snorlax's Body Slams + Blastoise's Scald, Synchronizing the Status and then Healing up with Heal Bell is a great way to keep your opponents weakened and you healthy. It's also very useful for supporting the team in case Victini gets Paralyzed or Gligar gets Burned etc.

    Hope I could help.
     
  12. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    Hi Hannah, as promised I would post on your RMT <3

    Seeing from yesterday's match with you, band Snorlax is a definite threat to your team, being able to switch in to everything bar Victini and Umbreon (Fears Foul Play). For that, I would suggest Cofagrigus over Umbreon to help deal with the Snorlax/Heracross weakness, as Cofagrigus counters both of them effectively. (Heracross even has Moxie neutralised due to Mummy!).
    While you do indeed lose wish support, Shaymin can also help out by passing Leech Seed support with the team.

    While I do see the use of Grass Knot on Slowking, Shaymin acts as a solid counter to almost every single water-type that loves to switch in onto Slowking, and therefore I would suggest Trick over Grass Knot to cripple pokemon that often come in on it such as Umbreon and Porygon 2.

    On Victini, I'm seriously begging you to use Adamant nature and Bolt Strike, as it can even nab a 2HKO on bulky behemoths such as Suicune, Slowbro and Milotic! You might also want to run Brick Break > Trick because it hits Thick Fat Snorlax harder, which is an ass to your team anyway.

    Thats it from me i guess :x

    Omigosh, the pics are so cute <3
     
  13. Liarliarpantsonfire

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    Watch out for Venomoth because it can put your pokes to sleep and setup on you :x
     
  14. Yui.

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    I battled a mildly edited version of this team. Smashed with houndoom, then swept with SD empoleon. I don't think you need to particularly worry about SD empo, but houndoom thretf
     
  15. Windblown

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    yeah Trick is good over Grass Knot on Slowking.

    I do feel Snorlax is a problem but idk how it takes Psyshock, usually if you pressure it enough damage and Volt Switches from Raikou you should be able to take it down. If not, Trick also cripples it. Then you can take out Trick on Victini for Zen Headbutt which is fairly useful.

    Rose also helps set up Spikes to let your Choice attackers pull through and it even gets Leech Seed if you want that so I'd support a change to her too.

    I do think you should try fitting something that really resists fire here because Chandelure is still a problem, not sure if Slowking is 2HKO'd by Fire Blast considering it's offensive. If it isn't that's not too bad but if is you could consider something like your own Chandelure in place of Slowking (hard to find an attacker to keep the slot similar but Chandy also prevents spinning).
     
  16. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Badged Deucer

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    So Kawaiiiiiii <3
     
  17. EvilDingoRobot

    EvilDingoRobot HELLOOOOOOOO

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    I recommend musharna over slowking.

    A baton passing musharna could set up shaymin for a sweep.

    Or you could go for a sleep talk.

    Baton passer

    Musharna (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
    - Baton Pass[/HIDE]

    Sleep talker

    Musharna (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Sleep Talk
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
    - Rest[/HIDE]
     
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