[BW2] Blissey not Broken

Discussion in 'Gen 5 UU' started by Alfalfa, Jul 22, 2013.

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  1. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Underappreciated

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    Currently up is Roserade. Next is Heracross!

    Blissey is not broken in UU, and the ban is unjustified. Sure, it has absurd special bulk, but there are so many pokemon in UU that beat it out.... Scrafty, Heracross, Nasty Plot Porygon-Z, Zoroark, Honchkrow, Metagross, Reuniclus, Virizion, Arcanine, Crobat, Golurk, Mew, Darmanitan, Mienshao, Victini, etc. Just because Blissey can top 714 HP and 405 Special Defense does not mean it is broken; it takes ridiculous amounts of damage from strong physical attacks.

    Blissey is broken? How come we have not banned Heracross yet? It has about the same number of strengths and flaws that Blissey has.

    And if you think Blissey stops special attackers cold, you are wrong:

    252+ SpA Life Orb Reuniclus Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 360-425 (50.42 - 59.52%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252 SpA Life Orb Adaptability Porygon-Z Tri Attack vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 273-322 (41.87 - 49.38%) -- 30.47% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

    Switch to a physical wall? You have Mienshao, Virizion, Scrafty, Porygon-Z, Metagross, Reuniclus, Zoroark, Honchkrow, Virizion, Crobat, Mew, and Victini, all of which can take down both sides of the spectrum.

    It is not like Arceus suspect in OU. There are ways to take down the fat nurse, and you are just overemphasizing on its massive wishes, which can be accommodated for by using the above mentioned pokemon.
     
  2. NidoTheKing

    NidoTheKing Father of the Year 2014!

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    The voting's done and Blissey's banned. Nothing you can do about it.

    Don't take it out all on us just because Blissey was considered broken by people. The ban was completely democratic and people put in what they thought, some no ban, some ban. Apparently, ban won. If you want reasons why it was banned, maybe you can ask to see the paragraphs on the banning process?

    The Scarf set is actually REALLY overrated because you can't switch moves, so don't put that in the argument. Heracross isn't banned because it loses to other Scarfers, Ghosts, Gligar, and other bulky threats like Blatoise. Take that to the Suspect Discussion, not here.

    The point is, you can't just ask for a Pokemon that was banned back because you think it shouldn't be banned. I didn't think Blissey should be banned myself, but I'm living with it. Wait a couple months until a retest is compromised. Until then, got to let it slide, bro.
     
  3. Laurel

    Laurel Well-Known Member

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    Man I respect your opinion but overall your argument is sorta strange. You basically say Reuniclus, which is the next most broken Pokemon in UU, beats Blissey, the most broken pokemon in UU. Of course Reuniclus beats Blissey 1v1, it gets Calm Mind and Psyshock, and because of Magic Guard is not damage by Toxic. Of course there are plenty of pokemon that beat Blissey 1v1 that doesn't make it not broken. That's like saying Kyogre shouldn't be Uber, because it can't beat Gastrodon who is an NU 1v1 or Ludicolo.

    The reason why most people voted Blissey back to UU is because of her tremendous Special Bulk, and ability to be plugged into any UU team, and work incredibly. Sure there are plenty of fighting types that can KO Blissey, Heatran also hard walls 99% of Genesect. The fact is they support teams like monsters. Blissey can absorb any Special hit, and Paralyze the pokemon attacking it, or pass a wish to something on her team. It shuts down Raikou and Chandelure, two of the strongest pokemon in UU, bar if it gets tricked, and is better "glue" to a team than Scizor is in gen 4. Meaning it can fix many problems a team may have in one poke. Furthermore, as a member on a stall team, Blissey can make sure everything is at full health to beat the opponents scariest threat to your team, and whenever someone switches in a physical attacker, such as Mienshao, you just have to bring in your Gligar or Cofagrigus and wall it. Then you add in entry hazards, and Reckless Mienshao is too scared to even u-turn. Sure you can argue prediction can beat it, but with very little support, Blissey + a defensive ghost, nothing in UU can KO the pair, besides maybe Reuniclus, which also probably shouldn't be UU...

    Anyways, it's not the fact that Blissey by itself is broken, everything has counters, it's the nature of the beast. Most people probably banned it because that with the slightest support, Blissey can be the most annoying thing to kill.

    To conclude, of course you can have your own opinion, and say whatever you want, but the PO community voted to bann Blissey from UU, whether your like it or not, you sadly have to live with it. I'd just use Snorlax now. :-) I hope this put some stuff into perspective.
     
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  4. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Small Nitpick:
    Umbreon fills Blissey's shoes a bit better.

    Large Nitpick regarding this whole thread:
    Blissey was just banned, no point in furtherly discussing it.
     
  5. NAVIDAD PIRATE

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    This has been talked about ad nauseum and voted upon by UU players; Blissey will not be retested in the near future.

    Any potential suspects should be talked about in the stickied suspect discussion thread. Locked.
     
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