[BW2 Ubers] [Peaked 1700+]Team Accelrated(Ver.0.15)-Gargantua Symphony

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  1. Sandglass

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    Hello, it's Ybss, and I'm here again to post the best Wifi Ubers team I have ever made in my life, which is named "Accelrated". It is a team that took me three months perfect after having tested many versions of the team. It is a really good and solid team that is also very easy to use, and even trainers who have never used hyper-offensive teams before agree with me on this.

    Today, I will post the third version of Accelrated team, which is currently 75% complete. It has has an astonishing record of 40-1, and I have also managed to reach 1500+ points on the Pokémon Online server's Wifi Ubers ladder using this team.

    I call this version of the team (Accel 0.15) "GS" - Gargantua Symphony.

    Gargantua Symphony - Teambuilding process

    Firstly, I got the idea for this team from Bolts of the Master clan, whose team, known as Accel 0.00 "Chaos Bolts", contains Deoxys-S, Arceus-Ghost, Choice Scarf Kyogre, bulky Dialga, Swords Dance Rayquaza and Life Orb Mewtwo. I found his team to be really good, but I soon found some problems with it, so I fixed some of its Pokémon's movesets, while at the same time replacing some of its members, although unfortunately, I ultimately could not find any additions to the team that could solve its problems.

    Later, I battled a good friend of mine known as Soruxtl, who sometimes helps me in teambuilding. He used an all-out attacking Deoxys-A that completely destroyed me, and in effect also deeply impressed me, especially as I beheld its devastating Low Kick attack that slayed even the Almighty Arceus with ease, as well as its catastrophic Ice Punch that allowed it to easily eliminate even the offensive powerhouse that is Latios.

    Upon witnessing myself being swept by Soruxtl's Deoxys-A, I was inspired to replace my own Deoxys-S with the all-out attacking Deoxys-A that he used. Unfortunately, this change to my team left it with no Stealth Rock user, so I replaced Dialga's Dragon Tail with this move. This was, I would say, an excellent change to the team that I've been using previously, as Deoxys-A proved itself to be exceedingly useful. I decided to call this new team I made, which consisted of Deoxys-A, Dialga, Kyogre, Arceus, Mewtwo and Rayquaza, "Accel 0.07 "Demon Call".

    After realizing the ease with which Choice Scarf Kyogre can be walled, I replaced its item with a pair of Choice Specs, and was impressed by its newfound destructive power. And upon realizing that the team now had no Choice Scarf Pokémon, I decided to change the team's Mewtwo to a Choice Scarf set. Choice Scarf Mewtwo proved itself to be very effective as it served as an amazing check to Swift Swim Pokémon, Excadrill, and Genesect alike. And with that, I completed the third version of my team, known as Gargantua Symphony, or Accel 0.15.

    I actually have a perfect version of this team, but I don't wish to share my unique team with others, so I am not posting anything beyond its third version.

    Anyway, the team was exactly the way I have always wanted it to be: Unique and strong. With it, I managed to reach 1702 points on the No Preview Ubers ladder, while also reaching an average of 1500 points on the Wifi Ubers ladder under numerous different names.

    I also shared the "GS" version of the team with my close friends and my tutee Zidane_Triple_H for testing purposes, and they all said the team is good.

    Zidane is still using the team, and he has achieved a very high score on the ladder with it, despite the fact that he was stuck between 1200 and 1300 points prior to using my team. Knowing that makes me feel proud. :)

    Every players who has used this team said it is good, so I have decided to regard it as my main team in the Übers tier.

    In any case, we should take a closer look at the team now...

    Gargantua Symphony - At A Glance

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    A closer look at the team:

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    Igneel (Deoxys-A) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 176 Atk / 80 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Low Kick
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Shadow Ball
    - Fire Punch

    Deoxys-A is, in my opinion, the best anti-lead Pokémon in the game, as it beats Deoxys-S, Forretress, Kyogre, Arceus-Normal, Dialga, and many other Pokémon. It is one of the Pokémon in the Übers metagame that is completely uncounterable, and the knowledge of how to use it effectively will naturally come with experience.

    ※Igneel is the name of a Fire Dragon, and as such I find it to be a fitting nickname for Deoxys-A given this Pokémon's color and use of the move Fire Punch.

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    Aquerias (Kyogre) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 96 HP / 252 SAtk / 160 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Water Spout
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunder

    Choice Specs Kyogre possesses the highest degree of raw, immediate, destructive power of all Pokémon in the game. Though it has many counters, it is still an awesome Pokémon, whose EVs allow it to take even a +2 ExtremeSpeed from Arceus-Normal before retaliating with a devastating Surf, and this Pokémon is also exceedingly useful for dealing with Calm Mind Arceus-Ghost, as its catastrophic Choice Specs and rain-boosted Water-type moves heavily damage that Pokémon even after it has received a Calm Mind boost. This Pokémon's Drizzle Ability is also very helpful for putting an end to Groudon's Drought, and consequently the myriad of strategies that depend on the presence of harsh sunlight to work.

    ※ Aquerias is name of a Water Dragon, which fits with Kyogre's color and type.

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    Arcnologya (Arceus-Ghost) @ Spooky Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Judgment
    - Calm Mind
    - Focus Blast
    - Recover

    Arceus-Ghost is a really important Pokemon in this team because it is the team's only true check to Extreme Killer Arceus, which also means that one needs to play Arceus-Ghost very carefully and conservatively if one sees that the opponent still has an Arceus remaining in their team. After using Calm Mind, Arceus-Ghost reaches a level of offensive and defensive power bordering on invincibility, and it is an excellent Pokémon that serves the defensive role of walling Terrakion, as well as being able to bring offensive momentum to the team by setting up a Calm Mind against a Dragon-type Pokémon that has just halved its own Special Attack with Draco Meteor.

    Arceus-Ghost is not an easy Pokémon to control for those who are inexperienced with the use of this team, but upon extensive practice, this will easy change. Beware of Focus Blast though, as I always get raped by it whenever my Arceus-Ghost fails to connect its Focus Blast against it. (T_T)

    ※ Arcnologya is the name of a Dark Dragon, which fits with Arceus-Ghost's color and type.

    Also, Arcnologya is known for its ability and tendency to destroy everything, in the same way that Arceus-Ghost is notorious for its sweeping power.

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    Metalikana (Dialga) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 60 SAtk / 176 SDef / 20 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Flamethrower
    - Stealth Rock
    - Thunder Wave

    Dialga is a walling core in this team, and in fact the team's only bulky Pokémon. It is just as a member of the team as Arceus-Ghost, so be sure not to recklessly waste it. Dialga is this team's lead when the opponent has a Genesect, and if the opponent uses U-turn, I get a free turn to paralyze one of the opponent's Pokémon as it comes in :) Stealth Rock helps immensely in taking down Ho-Oh as well as damaging the members of the opponent's team in general, and I also use Dialga to wall Palkia as well as Latios and Latios to an extent, and sponge Water and Electric-type moves in general.

    ※ Metalikana is the name of a Metal Dragon, which fits with Dialga's color and Steel/Dragon typing.

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    Grandine (Rayquaza) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Air Lock
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Outrage
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - V-create

    Rayquaza is a pretty decent sweeper, whose Life Orb-boosted ExtremeSpeed boasts about the same degree of destructive power as the ExtremeSpeed of a non-Life Orb or Silk Scarf Arceus-Normal. Thanks to its amazing Air Lock Ability, its V-create attack can fell Ferrothorn in a single blow even in the rain, and this along with Rayquaza's immunity to Groudon's Earthquake is very cool.

    ※ Grandine is the name of a Sky Dragon, which fits with Rayquaza's Dragon/Flying typing, ability to use the Dragon-type move Outrage, as well as the fact that it is the Sky High Pokémon.

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    Horologium (Mewtwo) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 HP / 76 Def / 252 SAtk / 176 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Trick
    - Ice Beam
    - Psystrike
    - Aura Sphere

    Choice Scarf Mewtwo is a really tricky and good set, and it is such an unexpected Pokémon that whenever it revenge-kills my opponent's Kingdra, they all say "Scarftwo? lol". 176 Speed EVs with a Timid Nature allows Mewtwo to outrun Modest Dialga after a Shell Smash boost, and 4 HP alongside 76 Defense enables it to survive a +2 ExtremeSpeed from Arceus-Normal.

    ※ Horologium is the name of a Time Dragon, something which has the ability to control time, and is therefore a fitting nickname for a Psychic-type Pokémon like Mewtwo.

    Some words about my ladder peaks with this team:

    - I have achieved a win-loss record of 40-1 under the name "#Empire|EGOIST" with 1516 points.
    - I have reached #2 on the No Preview Ubers ladder with 1702 points.
    - I have reached #4 on the Wifi Ubers ladder with 1676 points.

    Some Screenshots(I didn't know how to screenshot before them :[)

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    ------#Empire|EGOIST's ranking
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    ------ybss1993's ranking
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    ------Eincrade's ranking before 1500+

    Comments and Importable Team

    Whoa! It was hard to write this RMT post.

    I hope you guys will use the best team I have ever made in my whole Pokémon Online life correctly.

    I would also like to thank my friend, CHAMPION LANCE/Ultimate Champion/Pokémon Trainer R, the Greatest Pokémon Master to have ever walked under the heavens, as well as one of the two Leaders of the proud and glorious Dragon Rush clan, the strongest clan in the world of competitive Pokémon, for proof-reading and making a lot of edits to this Rate My Team thread in order to make it look as pleasant as possible.

    Thanks for reading my Rate My Team thread! Here is the importable version of the team:

    Igneel (Deoxys-A) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 176 Atk / 80 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Low Kick
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Shadow Ball
    - Fire Punch

    Aqualius (Kyogre) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 96 HP / 252 SAtk / 160 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Water Spout
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunder

    Arcnologya (Arceus-Ghost) @ Spooky Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Judgment
    - Calm Mind
    - Focus Blast
    - Recover

    Metalikana (Dialga) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 60 SAtk / 176 SDef / 20 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Flamethrower
    - Stealth Rock
    - Thunder Wave

    Grandine (Rayquaza) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Air Lock
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Outrage
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - V-create

    Horologium (Mewtwo) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 HP / 76 Def / 252 SAtk / 176 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Trick
    - Ice Beam
    - Psystrike
    - Aura Sphere
     
  2. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    Brilliant team, just gotta say no dragon resists ;-;
    I was trying to find a space to put Psycho Boost on Deo-A over Shadow Ball, but I can see that Shadow Ball also has its relative usefulness against its fellow counterparts.
     
  3. -Leon-

    -Leon- bae <3

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    Hey,Ybss,a really cool team it is.I really like the Mewtwo EV spread.Scarf sure does catch many people off guard,and trick cripples Mewtwo checks.Don't have much to suggest,except maybe Psycho Boost>Shadow Ball as it's gonna hit seriously hard(shadow ball works well,too I guess .-.).
     
  4. Sandglass

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    Thanks for the suggestion both you guys,but I hate Psycho Boost in some reasons.
    Mainly -2 can be dangerous if I mispredict.Deoxys-A can't switch out much so I needed safer move to hit Arceus-Ghost,Giratinas and etc.
    Also Extremespeed can't kill Full HP Deoxys-S in 2HKO.So I decided to use Shadow Ball.

    @DracoNinja

    Thanks.I've answered why I use Shadow Ball over Psycho Boost over there.
    No Dragon resist,very true but I deal with them using my skill in this team :)
    I usually use Dialga to take hits from Dragons like Palkia,Rayquaza.

    @Leon

    Answered why I use Shadow Ball on the top :)
    Thanks for the reply.
     
  5. Mr. N00b

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    Pretty solid team. All I got to say really is change Flamethrower on Dialga to Fire Blast. I would just go with Smogon's spread of 252 HP / 60 SAtk / 200 Sp Def with Modest Nature. It won't get 2HKOd by a Lustrous boosted Spacial Rend from Palka or non-Specs Kyogre's Water Spout and Modest Nature with 60 SAtk and Fire Blast can 2HKO Groudon with sun up and Max HP/Max SDef Ferrothorn in Rain.
     
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  6. Scene

    Scene reverie

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    Trust me, when you're high laddering you really, really want to minimise misshax, especially if it doesn't get any significant extra KOs.

    Great team Sandglass, grats on the peaks!
     
  7. Sandglass

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    Thanks for the suggestion Mr.N00b,and Scizor.
    I've tried out Flamethrower in Dialga and Hidden Power Fighting on Ghostceus(lol) in my old versions of Accelrated.
    That worked well too so I'mma try it out again.
     
  8. Tendetta

    Tendetta idek

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    Hey ybss <3
    Props to making this amazing team :D
    I've gotta say it is an incredibly solid team and I've had lots of fun and success using it, even beating some notable players on the way ;)

    I've actually got a suggestion about deoxys-a, which is psycho boost. I sometimes find myself unable to harm lead groudons :(
    I don't know what it can possibly replace though..

    Anyways grats on the peak :>
     
  9. Sandglass

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    Thanks Tenny!:)
    Nah sorry I will keep my Shadow Ball in.
    Psycho is way too dangerous though. D;
     
  10. Dr. Zeus

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    Very Good team. Nothing really to say though you can try Lum > Life Orb on quaza but then you won't be able to OHKO darkrai at +2 after SR. Anyways really solid team and gratz on your success.
     
  11. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    Hey there!

    I remember facing this team from the last time I really laddered, and it gave me some speed bumps on the way haha. As much as I personally hate Scarf Mewtwo, it fits this team really well. The only things that look mildly troublesome are well played Darkrai and Mewtwo, but I don't think there's much you can do about that. Changing Mewtwo to a Scarf Genesect could probably work, but you look really fond of the ScarfTwo. The other troublesome thing is that you lack a reliable way to prevent Deoxys-S from setting two layers of hazards. I don't know if your "perfect" version has fixes for these threats, but whatever.

    Hope I helped and good luck!
     
  12. Sandglass

    Sandglass Member

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    @Zeus

    Hey Zeus :)
    I personally like Life Orb Rayquaza very much.If I use Lum Rayquaza there will be no way to hit Groudon.
    The best moveset for Lum Berry is Dragon Dance set Imo,but it doesn't fit with my team.Sorry.
    Anyways,thanks for the reply!

    @ZoroDark

    True,Darkrai is kinda problem in my team.I keep Deoxys-A and Rayquaza alive when I see Darkrai in opponent's team.
    I have tried Genesect over Mewtwo once,but that leaded me to a serious Scarfed Palkia problem.I couldn't deal with it when I lost Dialga so..
    And mainly Genesect is slow.Mewtwo is for last sweeping in the team but Genesect doesn't fit for it,I insist.:S
    For Deoxys-S,I can Dark Pulse and Extremespeed it with my Deoxys-A.
    So there's no way to set 2hazards for Deoxys-S.
    Thanks for the suggestion :) I will try Genesect out again for test though.
     
  13. Mr. N00b

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    If I may ask, why the extra 20 Spd EVs on Dialga? What would it help outspeed exactly and it carries Thunderwave already so I really don't see much relevance in it. Out of curiousity.
     
  14. Sandglass

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    @Mr.N00b

    It's for non-speed Groudon.
    Also I fixed EVs in my latest version of the team :)
     
  15. Mr. N00b

    Mr. N00b Member

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    Well if it's to outrun non-speed invested Groudon, all you need is 4 points invested since they both have base 90s speed. If you're paranoid enough to think people have minimal investment of 4 also, you can put 8 Speed EVs instead and dump the rest in Sp Atk or Sp Def.
     
  16. Sandglass

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    I'll give a try then.:P
     
  17. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Just from a glance at looking through, I see you have a magnificent team.
    I'd use Physically Offensive Based Scarf Genesect > Dialga.
    Then, LO Mewtwo > Scarf Mewtwo.
    Throw Rocks into Deo-A. Maybe even make it a hazard lead Deoxys.
    Just my ideas,
    I'm not an Ubers master though :/

    Edit: Lol, just saw Blim's post.

    ./delete thread
    ./punish user who made it
    ./smfh
     
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  18. Blimlax

    Blimlax A Silent and Serene Heart

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    Yea but no, I don't know who this "Accel 0.00 Chaos Bolts" person is, but the team mentioned [Deoxys-S / Arceus-Ghost / Choice Scarf Kyogre / Bulky Dialga / Swords Dance Rayquaza / Life Orb Mewtwo] is in fact my wifi ubers ho team that I made and have been using for over a year [I've used it in both POCL 2 and SPL 3 for example.] Many respected ubers players / my friends already know this...and I don't appreciate you rmting one of my best teams, making bad changes to it, and then claiming it as your own.

    I don't know what to make of this or if there is any rule against doing stuff like this [probably not, althrough I have plenty of logs of me using the orginal version of this team in tournament battles, and if anyone has any doubts that this is the team I made I have plenty of logs and respected users to back me up on this].I did gave this team to a few people back awhile back and it sort of spread around to a small extent, but it should be common sense not to rmt a team that another player made.

    Edited: The team isn't similar, it's pratically identical. Anyway after thinking over I'm not upset about this anymore, something like this was bound to happen eventually.
     
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  19. Sandglass

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    @Blimlax

    I didn't know that your team is simmilar to mine while I was making this team.
    I just noticed that when I was almost finish with team making.
    Also,you can't judge whether Bolts stole your team or not unless you know him very well.
    He's my Korean friend and what I heard from is he started PO since 2010,and that team was originally formed in HGSS gen.
    There can be some simmilar teams though.Also there's no copyright for every teams..
    I'm really sorry that I made simmilar team with you.You may feel bad but what I want to say is
    this team isn't a edited stolen team from you.
     
  20. Blimlax

    Blimlax A Silent and Serene Heart

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    Yea, I don't know who Bolt is and I didn't play DPP. Either way even if what you said was true, this team is still basically a carbon copy of my /
    his team. You really didn't add anything, in my opinion, to differ yourself from the orginal team. It functions the same except now with these movesets its just....worse.

    1.]Scarf Kyogre isn't meant to be a wall breaker...that's LO mewtwo's job, scarf kyogre is a much, much better scarfer than mewtwo, who is easily one of the worst scarfers in ubers.

    2.]Having no hazards on deo makes zero sense. This teams works a lot better with spikes and you don't need the 4 coverage moves, lead deo shouldn't be doing that much damage vs any good team.

    3.]With these 2 changes, Dialga should be using Roar / Dragon Tail to abuse sr + spikes, this puts a ton of pressure on stall teams espically.

    With the orginal team, it doesn't have any serious flaws besides being a little offensive groudon / sd arceus weak but every offensive team is weak to those in some ways. You can't "fix" these issues because there's no such thing as a perfect team, making further changes will just make the team worse. Althrough I've seen some pretty cool varations of this team which work well [mainly just replacing mewtwo with another sweeper or replaceing arc ghost with sub d tail gira o]. Same team in the end, just minor varations to have a better match up against certain threats.

    Lol, it's fine, I overreacted in my first post.
     
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  21. Sandglass

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    Specs Kyogre fits better on 'this' team because it can deal with Ferrothorn/Dialga/Palkia(with Thunder)s which
    are big problems of this team.Life Orb Mewtwo was good but it was too bulkless..
    My team checks Smashpass teams or Scarf Dialga hard thanks to Scarf Mewtwo.
    Also I don't know what move needs to removed for hazards for Deoxys-A.
    I already said Deoxys-A isn't hazards set upping pokemon,it's anti-lead pokemon.
    Anti-lead Deoxys-A makes me able to kill 1/4 of opp's pokemons so I can sweep him up easier.

    Uh anyways I'm not perfectly opposing your suggestions.
    I'mma give a try later.Thanks :P
     
  22. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    This team is ridiculously solid. If Darkrai is a problem, you could always run sleep talk on Kyogre. Personally I think sleep talk is better than ice beam on choiced Kyogre. Gratz on ladder success.
     
  23. Sandglass

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    Thanks Rioku,but I can't hit Gastrodon if there's no Ice Beam :/
     
  24. ultrabattler

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    Hello Ybss! Long time no see, and congratulations on your great team and ladder achievements. This team is very solid and has given me 2150+ on PS and consistently around 1500 on PO. My only suggestion for this team is changing deo attack's shadow ball to ice beam, as you will be able to have an all around better coverage by doing so. (Except stuff like arc ghost and friends). Anyways, congrats and all!
     
  25. MewTheDestroyer

    MewTheDestroyer God

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    Wait, Sandglass you're worried about hitting Gastrodon of all things? The only thing it might be seen for is to check Ogre, but Ferrothorn and even Palkia are seen more doing that.
     
  26. Sandglass

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    @ultra
    Thanks!
    Shadow Ball is for hitting Deoxys-S,Arceus-Ghost and other Ghost weak pokemons and it works really good,so I'll keep it.
    But indeed.I can't hit Ray or Grod hard without it.Gonna give a try though.

    @Mew
    Can't understand what you are saying about :x
     
  27. MewTheDestroyer

    MewTheDestroyer God

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    Again, worried about Gastrodon of all things? It's seen in Ubers almost never, due to Ferrothorn, Chansey, and even Palkia checking Kyogre decently enough.
     
  28. Sandglass

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    @Mew
    Well yeah,I try to check all pokemons.
    I'm trying Sleep Talk on Mewtwo though.
     
  29. moonbase

    moonbase New Member

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    This seems like a pretty good team, but I have a few suggestions
    Your speed creep on Kyogre is extremely weird to me. Add 4 more evs to speed and then you can outspeed non invested Lugia, which looks to be a small annoyance to your team.

    Also, You may not want to do this, but you only need 216 speed evs on your Rayquayza to outspeed max invested, neutral natured pokemon in the 90 speed tier. You might really need to have the speed creep IDk, but Rayquayza needs all the bulk it can get to set up a SD in a sticky situation.

    That's all I got. Great team nonetheless.
     
  30. Sandglass

    Sandglass Member

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    Moonbase
    Thanks for the rate!
    Well I didn't know 4 extra EVs outrun Lugias.Gonna try it out.
    216 Speed EVs on Rayquaza makes me to lose speed against 252 Rays,also 40 EVs on HP or something else gives nothing to this Ray.
    I'm gonna try 168 speed EVs on Kyogre.Thank you!
     
  31. Mint!

    Mint! New Member

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    Hello Sandglass. Excellent team. Only thing I suggest is this EV spread for Arceus-Ghost that I also recommended to Ramiel.

    Arceus-Ghost @ Spooky Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 44 HP / 252 Def / 212 Spd
    Bold Nature
    - Judgment
    - Calm Mind
    - Focus Blast
    - Recover

    It may seem weird, but the speed EVs are enough to out speed Timid Palkia whilst the defense EVs let you take Outrages, Earthquakes, and Psystrikes with ease, and you will have many opportunities to set up Calm Mind's. But if you want immediate power, than the set you have know is better.
    Good Luck.
     
  32. Sandglass

    Sandglass Member

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    Thank you for replying this old post xD
    Well,in my opinion,that Arceus' set is not fitting on my team because
    Arceus is the only Extremekiller counter in my team,and it must be max speed to hit Focus Blast faster to Normalceus.
    Thanks for the suggestion tho.
     
  33. EvilDingoRobot

    EvilDingoRobot HELLOOOOOOOO

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    I prefer using Darkeus because if you get statused you can use refresh. If you use just judgement or just focus blast there will be a pokemon immune to it. If you use both, you can't remove statuses. Here's a viable moveset.

    Arceus (Arceus-Dark) @ Dread Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Judgment
    - Refresh
    - Recover[/HIDE]
     
  34. Sandglass

    Sandglass Member

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    Aboriginal Master,I already mentioned that Ghostceus is my only Extremekiller check so it's really important in the team.
    Thanks for the reply but I won't take your advice.
     
  35. -Leon-

    -Leon- bae <3

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    Scarf Mewtwo sucks replace it with gene or give ogre scarf pls Idk why you have scarf mewtwo oo
     
  36. -Manaphy--

    -Manaphy-- Overconsumption

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    I agree with Leon here, Scarf Mewtwo is a fundamentally bad set. Mewtwo needs to switch moves to be able to sweep anything (it can't power through things like ScarfOgre can), it's most common moves (Psystrike/Aura Sphere) leave you wide open to be set-up on, it cannot switch into common sets like Palkia or Terrakion for example could, and the extra speed Scarf gives is really just overkill, with 130 Base Speed you already outspeed 99% of the tier.
     
  37. Sandglass

    Sandglass Member

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    @Leon and Manaphy

    Well I sometimes feel it is a bad set but its doing work perfectly sometimes.
    I know 130 base is fast,however,every uber teams are like having 1 scarf mons and they all outspeed Mewtwo.
    And it works great against +2 Smeargle or fastshits like Terrakion,Scarfkia etc.
    But I agree with your suggestion,it's not powerful at all.
    I will change it when it's not doing work anymore.Thanks for replying.
     
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