[BW2] Murkrow + Regenerator Testban Discussion

Discussion in 'Gen 5 LC' started by fitzy, May 9, 2013.

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  1. viamage

    viamage That one guy

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    this is truth
    executive decision please, i hate voting because i have a long history of being on the losing side, then a few weeks later everybody complaining that they wanted it the way i voted for
     
  2. Artemisa

    Artemisa Well-Known Member

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    There is only one person saying they want fun stuff in the tier and that is Scizor, (Can you please stop posting atm :x). Like I said before I don't to unban stuff to make the tier fun, I want to unban stuff because at the current state of the meta nothing has changed, if anything it's gotten worse. Teams aren't diverse and they will not be diverse if you keep on banning viable stuff.

    LC is not a tier, it's a metagame filled with more unviable pokes than viable ones. Because of this players will only use the best in the metagame, that's why Mienfoo is used so much. Same with Missy, Murkrow, Porygon, Chinchou, Timburr, etc etc. You can make teams that are creative, but that is up to the player. If you want creativity just encourage it, banning stuff will just limit peoples options.

    ArteEdit:

    The first time we banned something due to overcentralization was sand, people were being optimistic saying that they were going to see rain teams and a more diverse meta. After banning a playstyle, what makes you think Mienfoo will make things better?
     
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  3. Weavile

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    Right then. We seem to have some call for "executive decision" to get shit done. So myself and Fitzy have discussed a little and we have decided to go through with the following plan.

    Regenerator will remain in the metagame.
    Murkrow will be removed
    Mienfoo will be removed
    Berry Juice will be re-added
    Yanma and Carvanha will be unbanned
    Speed Boost will be banned.

    None of these things will be as suspect tests. If they are seen as problematic it can be raised in the General Discussion thread and they may be suspected from there.

    - Fitz and myself
     
  4. viamage

    viamage That one guy

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    inb4 everybody stats using ss dweeble
     
  5. Pokemon United

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    When will these changes be effective? New meta will be interesting...
     
  6. Artemisa

    Artemisa Well-Known Member

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    Won't be interesting, it will just stay the same.
     
  7. not a cop

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    berry juice is hugeee. anything with sturdy is now viable tirtouga and dwebble are two that I'm interested in. recycle on bronzer and even magnemite is now very viable. should be interesting to say the least.

    mukrow while fun to use had to go
    mienfoo was kinda an odd choice to ban but the only reason id use it nowadays is for a baton pass team i was gonna make.

    i expect yanma to be incredibly powerful even without speed boost. hypnosis lets it beat its counters. rocks will be a necessity now more than ever.
    carvanha will be strong, but i expect it to be dealt with more easily. as it can't beat missy despite its type advantage.
     
  8. fitzy

    fitzy Heart of the cards Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Hopefully as soon as possible. To implement the changes the server needs a restart which is the main problem. Beyond my control now as to when they get updated.
     
  9. Imarriedzelda

    Imarriedzelda New Member

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    Can you say hello shell smashers with sturdy
     
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