Lyncher Mafia, a Mafiascum theme popular in their RTM, adapted for Server play for us. Code: https://raw.github.com/Fuzzysqurl/Mafia/master/Themes/Development/Lyncher Spoiler Code (text): { "name": "Lyncher", "summary": "A peaceful Village is being terrorized by a sole Mafia and a Lyncher. The Village must stop the Mafia from controlling the town while being careful not to lynch the Lynchee, otherwise the Lyncher will win! If the Lynchee is killed at night, the Lyncher joins the Village to take out the common enemy: The Mafia. The game simulates daystart and the Mafia cannot kill night 1. For 4-10 players (non-peak).", "author": "Fuzzy", "minplayers": 4, "ticks": { "night": 15 }, "sides": [ { "side": "village", "translation": "Village" }, { "side": "mafia", "translation": "Mafia" }, { "side": "lyncher", "translation": "Lyncher" } ], "roles": [ { "role": "villager", "translation": "Villager", "side": "village", "help": "You have no special abilities beyond the right to vote. You win when both the Mafia and the Lyncher have been removed from the game.", "info": "Wins when both the Mafia and the Lyncher have been removed from the game. Sided with the Village." }, { "role": "villager2", "translation": "Villager", "side": "village", "hide": true, "help": "You have no special abilities beyond the right to vote now. You win when the Mafia has been removed from the game." }, { "role": "lynchee", "translation": "Villager", "side": "village", "hide": true, "winIfDeadRoles": ["mafia", "villager"], "help": "You have no special abilities beyond the right to vote. You win when both the Mafia and the Lyncher have been removed from the game.", "actions": { "onDeath": { "convertRoles": {"lyncher":"villager2"}, "convertmsg": "The Lynchee has been killed!" }, "lynch": { "convertTo": "lynchee2", "convertmsg": "The Lynchee has been lynched!" } } }, { "role": "lynchee2", "translation": "Lynchee", "side": "village", "help": "You have been lynched!", "info": "Converts Lyncher to Villager on death. Ends the game when lynched. Wins when both Mafia and either all Villagers or the Lyncher have been removed from the game. Sided with the Village" }, { "role": "mafia", "translation": "Mafia", "side": "mafia", "help": "You are able to /kill one player every night, after the first night. You win when only one other player remains in the game other than yourself.", "info": "Can kill one person during the night. Wins when only one other player remains in the game. Sided with the Mafia.", "actions": { "night": { "kill": { "common": "Self", "target": "AnyButSelf", "priority": 1, "initialrecharge": 2 } } } }, { "role": "lyncher", "translation": "Lyncher", "side": "lyncher", "winIfDeadRoles": ["lynchee"], "help": "Your goal is to remove the Lynchee, who you know from the start, from the game during the voting phase. If the Mafia kills your Lynchee, you will join the town and win with them. You win when the Lynchee is successfully lynched at any point in the game.", "info": "Knows the Lynchee from the start. Wins the game if the Lynchee is lynched. Sided with Lyncher.", "actions": { "startup": { "revealRole": ["lynchee"] } } } ], "roles1": [ "mafia", "lynchee", "lyncher", "villager", "villager", "villager", "villager", "villager", "villager", "villager" ] } Roles (proto = name = description): Village villager = Villager = Basic Villager villager2 = Villager = The role the Lyncher converts to if the Lynchee is killed lynchee= Villager = Converts Lyncher to villager2 on death. If lynched, the game ends. Mafia mafia = Mafia = Can kill 1 person a night except the first night (simulated Daystart) Lyncher lyncher = Lyncher = Wins the game when the Lynchee is lynched. Supported players: 4-10. Mafia is a bit more overpowered than the other sides at 3 players, and a no lynch immediate leads to Mafia winning the theme. 4 is the safest number to maintain somewhat of a balance. Win conditions for each side: Village: Removal of the Lyncher and Mafia from the game. If the Lyncher converts, it counts as removing it from the game. Village also wins in a 1vs1 situation with Lyncher and Lynchee, because the Lynchee cannot be successfully lynched. Mafia: Control 50% of the village, in other words, Mafia and 1 other person left. Lyncher: Get the Lynchee successfully lynched, or if the Lynchee dies, then see Village win conditions. Maximum actions per night: Kill: 1 (starting on night 2) Strategy: Lyncher has to convince the village to lynch a particular person, even though the Village knows that out there somewhere is a time-bomb waiting to go off. Mafia is there to kill people and punish them for not deciding on anything. Village just has to deduce who is bad, in a similar way to Vengeful (except tie votes and no lynches just benefit the mafia instead of stalling). The Lyncher might be an easy one to locate due to a possible push to lynch a certain member. Options for tweaking: If village is struggling too much, I could add a X-Shot or Odd/Even Night Side Inspector somewhere in the mix, but I feel it would shift too much to village as they'd have a confirmed role, and then another practically confirmed role with the inspect, (Side Inspect helps eliminate the chance of the Inspector finding the Lynchee and broadcasting so that the Lyncher has no real chance of winning)
well at least it's better than Less Pressure gj on the theme, the crucial thing is that it's balanced and fun in very small games instead of just being "meh" like most default combos. there's not really a lot to suggest, except i'd add another mafia at around 7 players? since they feel rather underpowered when pitted against so many villagers; rands will eventually win them the game approve [1] / test [1] let's go!
I think adding another maf at 7 would defeat the original purpose of the game, and make mafia a but unbalanced. Though I agree it is unbalanced against him at that level.
Well, rand lynching isn't ideal as Lyncher can easily win with a bad lynch. Perhaps Lyncher converting to Mafia when the Lynchee dies might be a solution, however, it typically works in this set up when they do RTM on Mafiascum chats. Also, im too lazy to update the OP, but the code now has the "±Game:" before the messages on Lynch and on Kill for the Lynchee.
Putting one at 7 might be too early. At 9-10, maybe.. I feel like ~8 players max would be the ideal cap. Either way, the theme is sound. And I shall accept [2]. If balance is a bit off in larger games, that can be corrected.
Placed on the server for testing. First game was meh cause everyone was still trying to learn, also an inactive spammer. Spoiler (23:45:43) *************************************************************************************** (23:45:43) ±Game: Fuzzy started a game with theme Lyncher! (23:45:43) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game! (23:45:43) *************************************************************************************** (23:45:43) ±Game: A peaceful Village is being terrorized by a sole Mafia and a Lyncher. The Village must stop the Mafia from controlling the town while being careful not to lynch the Lynchee, otherwise the Lyncher will win! If the Lynchee is killed at night, the Lyncher joins the Village to take out the common enemy: The Mafia. The game simulates daystart and the Mafia cannot kill night 1. For 3-10 players (non-peak). (23:45:43) ±Game: Fuzzy joined the game! (23:45:45) ±Game: gulc5886 joined the game! (23:45:46) Fuzzy: ohay (23:45:46) ±Game: Supergrass joined the game! (23:45:47) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 joined the game! (23:45:47) ±Game: Eagle Tequila joined the game! (23:45:50) ±Game: mewtwobaws joined the game! (23:45:50) Epikhairz0603: YAY Lyncherrr (23:45:51) ±Game: Bagzooka joined the game! (23:45:53) Fuzzy: essentially guys (23:45:55) Epikhairz0603: never played this b4 hope its good (23:45:59) ±Dratini: Fcgbale was muted by BebbZ for 2 hours! [Reason: r5] [Channel: Tohjo Falls] (23:45:59) Fuzzy: theres a role that if you vote it, you lose (23:46:01) ±Game: Pokefreak727 joined the game! (23:46:04) Fuzzy: theres a mafia that can kill (23:46:08) Epikhairz0603: vote lynchee = lose (23:46:12) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join! (23:46:13) Fuzzy: and a guy that wins if the certain player is lynched (23:46:16) gulc5886: a mafia that can kill? revolutionary (23:46:17) IP 89.96.194.201 is being overactive. (23:46:19) gulc5886: :o (23:46:19) Fuzzy: everyone else is villager (23:46:30) Epikhairz0603: seems kewl (23:46:42) Epikhairz0603: Juggernaut is kewler imo tho nobias :D (23:46:42) *************************************************************************************** (23:46:42) Times Up! : (23:46:42) The Roles have been Decided! : (23:46:42) ±Game: You are a Mafia! (23:46:42) ±Game: You are able to /kill one player every night, after the first night. You win when only one other player remains in the game other than yourself. (23:46:42) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:46:42) Current Players: Bagzooka, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Pokefreak727, Supergrass, gulc5886, mewtwobaws. (23:46:42) Current Team: Mafia (23:46:42) Time: Night 1 (23:46:42) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (23:46:42) *************************************************************************************** (23:46:42) BebbZ left the channel. (23:46:45) BebbZ joined the channel. (23:46:45) Eagle Tequila: i'm mafia (23:46:48) Eagle Tequila: lynch me (23:46:50) Fuzzy: lol (23:46:50) Eagle Tequila: NOW (23:46:52) Pokefreak727: ok (23:46:57) *************************************************************************************** (23:46:57) Times Up! : (23:46:57) No one died! : (23:46:57) *************************************************************************************** (23:46:57) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:46:57) Current Players: Bagzooka, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Pokefreak727, Supergrass, gulc5886, mewtwobaws. (23:46:57) Current Team: Mafia (23:46:57) Time: Day 1 (23:46:57) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:46:57) *************************************************************************************** (23:47:02) gulc5886: wait, so one of the villagers wins if he gets lynched? (23:47:04) Pokefreak727: me vil (23:47:04) Fuzzy: also, the lynchee is the role that the game ends when he is lynched (23:47:10) Pokefreak727: Can only vote (23:47:11) Eagle Tequila: LYNCH ME (23:47:12) Fuzzy: the lynchee doesnt know they are the lynchee (23:47:21) Eagle Tequila: ./vote Eagle Tequila (23:47:22) Supergrass: hehehh (23:47:23) Epikhairz0603: sh*t with my luck I'm prob lynchee (23:47:23) Eagle Tequila: i'm bad (23:47:27) *************************************************************************************** (23:47:27) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:47:27) Current Players: Bagzooka, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Pokefreak727, Supergrass, gulc5886, mewtwobaws. (23:47:27) Current Team: Mafia (23:47:27) Time: Day 1 (23:47:27) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (23:47:27) *************************************************************************************** (23:47:28) ±Game: Eagle Tequila voted for Eagle Tequila! (23:47:30) Fuzzy: the lyncher knows the lynchee (23:47:38) Fuzzy: and... really Eagle? (23:47:43) Eagle Tequila: i'm gonan win :) (23:47:44) Fuzzy: inb4 hes lynchee (23:47:51) gulc5886: ^ the lynchee can't be the lyncher too, right xD (23:47:54) Fuzzy: right (23:47:57) *************************************************************************************** (23:47:57) Times Up! : (23:47:57) ±Game: Eagle Tequila (Villager) was removed from the game! (23:47:57) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:47:57) Current Players: Bagzooka, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Pokefreak727, Supergrass, gulc5886, mewtwobaws. (23:47:57) Current Team: Mafia (23:47:57) Time: Night 2 (23:47:57) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (23:47:57) *************************************************************************************** (23:47:59) Fuzzy: and the mafia cannot be the lynchee either (23:48:03) ±Game: You have chosen to kill gulc5886! (23:48:09) Fuzzy: its a random villager (23:48:12) *************************************************************************************** (23:48:12) Times Up! : (23:48:12) ±Kill: gulc5886 (Villager) died! (23:48:12) *************************************************************************************** (23:48:12) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:48:12) Current Players: Bagzooka, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Pokefreak727, Supergrass, mewtwobaws. (23:48:12) Current Team: Mafia (23:48:12) Time: Day 2 (23:48:12) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:48:12) *************************************************************************************** (23:48:34) Pokefreak727: I am villager (23:48:38) Pokefreak727: kill me (23:48:40) Fuzzy: its a lot to take in at first lol (23:48:42) *************************************************************************************** (23:48:42) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:48:42) Current Players: Bagzooka, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Pokefreak727, Supergrass, mewtwobaws. (23:48:42) Current Team: Mafia (23:48:42) Time: Day 2 (23:48:42) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (23:48:42) *************************************************************************************** (23:48:44) Pokefreak727: I gtg (23:48:53) Fuzzy: ._. (23:48:53) Epikhairz0603: slay him i guess...? (23:48:56) Fuzzy: inb4 lynchee (23:48:57) Epikhairz0603: inb4heslynchee (23:49:00) ±Kill: Pokefreak727 (Villager) was slain by Fuzzy! (23:49:09) MeowMix: uhh (23:49:13) MeowMix: he didn't ask to be slain (23:49:13) *************************************************************************************** (23:49:13) Times Up! : (23:49:13) No one was voted off! : (23:49:13) *************************************************************************************** (23:49:13) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:49:13) Current Players: Bagzooka, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Supergrass, mewtwobaws. (23:49:13) Current Team: Mafia (23:49:14) Time: Night 3 (23:49:14) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (23:49:14) *************************************************************************************** (23:49:18) Pokefreak727 logged out. (23:49:18) ~Unknown~ left the channel. (23:49:28) *************************************************************************************** (23:49:28) Times Up! : (23:49:28) No one died! : (23:49:28) *************************************************************************************** (23:49:28) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:49:28) Current Players: Bagzooka, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Supergrass, mewtwobaws. (23:49:28) Current Team: Mafia (23:49:28) Time: Day 3 (23:49:28) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:49:28) *************************************************************************************** (23:49:33) Fuzzy: oh ._. i should have been more careful (23:49:35) Stingbow joined the channel. (23:49:39) Fuzzy: (23:49) Pokefreak727: thanks (23:49:39) Fuzzy: (23:49) Pokefreak727: I gtg (23:49:39) Fuzzy: (23:49) The other party left the server, so the window was disabled. (23:49:41) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:49:47) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:49:59) BebbZ left the channel. (23:49:59) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:49:59) BebbZ joined the channel. (23:50:04) D-Bray joined the channel. (23:50:04) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:50:08) *************************************************************************************** (23:50:08) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager. (23:50:08) Current Players: Bagzooka, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Supergrass, mewtwobaws. (23:50:08) Current Team: Mafia (23:50:08) Time: Day 3 (23:50:08) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (23:50:08) *************************************************************************************** (23:50:10) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:50:10) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:50:13) Fuzzy: anyway (23:50:17) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:50:17) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:50:19) Epikhairz0603: OA spam (23:50:20) Fuzzy: 2 villagers, a lynchee, a lyncher, and mafia remain (23:50:21) Steerclearz joined the channel. (23:50:30) ±Game: Bagzooka voted for Epikhairz0603! (23:50:38) *************************************************************************************** (23:50:38) Times Up! : (23:50:38) ±Game: ±Game: The Lynchee has been lynched! (23:50:38) ±Game: The Lyncher (Bagzooka) wins! (23:50:38) ±Game: The Village (Supergrass, Epikhairz0603 and mewtwobaws) and Mafia (Fuzzy) lose! (23:50:38) *************************************************************************************** (23:50:43) Epikhairz0603: YUP I CALLED IT (23:50:43) Fuzzy: lol... (23:50:44) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:50:44) IP 39.226.5.156 is being overactive. (23:50:51) Fuzzy: also, that Game: (23:50:51) Bagzooka: lol (23:50:58) Epikhairz0603: (21:47:34) Epikhairz0603: sh*t with my luck I'm prob lynchee (23:50:58) *************************************************************************************** (23:50:58) ±Game: Steerclearz started a voting for next game's theme!. You have 20 seconds to vote with /votetheme! (23:50:58) ±Game: Choose from these themes: default, body, marvel, caterpie, space ! (23:50:58) *************************************************************************************** (23:50:58) Bagzooka: Fun game (23:51:03) mewtwobaws left the channel. (23:51:05) ±Game: Eagle Tequila voted for Marvel! (23:51:09) Fuzzy: anyway, with time it should be more fun .-. (23:51:17) ±Game: Theme marvel won with 1 votes! (23:51:17) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game! (23:51:17) ±Game: http://wiki.pokemon-online.eu/wiki/Theme:Marvel (23:51:17) ±Game: Eagle Tequila joined the game! (23:51:18) Epikhairz0603: I would appove if I were QC we need NPthemes :D (23:51:20) Sebastian Hummel: lol Fuzzy (23:51:24) ±Game: Bagzooka joined the game! (23:51:25) Sebastian Hummel: it looked nice (23:51:27) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join! (23:51:31) Fuzzy: first few games are always slow to pick up (23:51:37) Sebastian Hummel: like vanilla+ (23:51:41) Bagzooka: I like lyncher Reception seems good, for now, it just will take a few games to learn strategies, like everything. A little better the 2nd time around: Spoiler (00:19:14) Fuzzy: Lyncher? y/n? (00:19:14) DunK: yeah i know (00:19:16) Eagle Tequila: Espeon, now how? (00:19:19) Recalasce: yes (00:19:20) DunK: his 'insps' (00:19:21) Recalasce: Fuzzy (00:19:21) Recalasce: :3 (00:19:22) DunK: are dead (00:19:22) Espeon: Eagle Tequila was never cleaned (00:19:23) *************************************************************************************** (00:19:23) ±Game: Fuzzy started a game with theme Lyncher! (00:19:23) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game! (00:19:23) *************************************************************************************** (00:19:23) ±Game: A peaceful Village is being terrorized by a sole Mafia and a Lyncher. The Village must stop the Mafia from controlling the town while being careful not to lynch the Lynchee, otherwise the Lyncher will win! If the Lynchee is killed at night, the Lyncher joins the Village to take out the common enemy: The Mafia. The game simulates daystart and the Mafia cannot kill night 1. For 3-10 players (non-peak). (00:19:23) ±Game: Fuzzy joined the game! (00:19:25) ±Game: Eagle Tequila joined the game! (00:19:26) ±Game: DunK joined the game! (00:19:27) ±Game: Recalasce joined the game! (00:19:29) Espeon: "my insp died my insp died" (00:19:31) ±Game: Bagzooka joined the game! (00:19:33) DunK: his 'insps' are dead lol (00:19:33) Eagle Tequila: that's true. i wasnt (00:19:37) Espeon: you;'re insp died b/.c you killed them (00:19:40) Espeon: *sigh* (00:19:43) Eagle Tequila: how did you know? (00:19:46) ±Game: D-Bray joined the game! (00:19:47) Espeon: Fuzzy new theme? (00:19:48) ±Game: Espeon joined the game! (00:19:50) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 joined the game! (00:19:50) Fuzzy: yes (00:19:52) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join! (00:19:54) Fuzzy: 2nd time its being played (00:19:54) Epikhairz0603: YAY MOAR Lyncher (00:19:56) DunK: oh new theme? o.O (00:20:00) Espeon: Eagle Tequila I have played dethy so many times (00:20:03) DunK: wow i feel so special lol (00:20:03) Espeon: you have no idea (00:20:04) Espeon: xD (00:20:07) DunK: ^ (00:20:16) Fuzzy: i tried to explain the entire game in the summary (00:20:22) *************************************************************************************** (00:20:22) Times Up! : (00:20:22) The Roles have been Decided! : (00:20:22) ±Game: You are a Villager! (00:20:22) ±Game: You have no special abilities beyond the right to vote. You win when both the Mafia and the Lyncher have been removed from the game. (00:20:22) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:20:22) Current Players: Bagzooka, D-Bray, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Espeon, Fuzzy, Recalasce. (00:20:22) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:20:22) Time: Night 1 (00:20:22) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (00:20:22) *************************************************************************************** (00:20:25) DunK: ok, well see it then (00:20:26) Recalasce: Who made lyncher (00:20:26) Recalasce: ? (00:20:27) Espeon: ok (00:20:30) DunK: oh (00:20:31) Valentine changed names and is now known as Skarmpiss. (00:20:31) Fuzzy: i coded it (00:20:37) *************************************************************************************** (00:20:37) Times Up! : (00:20:37) No one died! : (00:20:37) *************************************************************************************** (00:20:37) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:20:37) Current Players: Bagzooka, D-Bray, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Espeon, Fuzzy, Recalasce. (00:20:37) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:20:37) Time: Day 1 (00:20:37) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (00:20:37) *************************************************************************************** (00:20:38) Epikhairz0603: I'm probably Lynchee again .-. (00:20:38) Espeon: we win when both the mafia and lyncher are out (00:20:40) D-Bray: espeon is lynch (00:20:41) Skarmpiss changed names and is now known as Valentine. (00:20:42) DunK: what does the lyncher do? + vote? (00:20:43) Recalasce: Oh :3 (00:20:44) Epikhairz0603: Mafia y u no kill...? (00:20:45) Espeon: I am not (00:20:46) Espeon: wtf (00:20:49) Eagle Tequila: afk mafia (00:20:49) bbyJesus joined the channel. (00:20:55) Fuzzy: mafia cant kill n1 (00:20:58) DunK: btw im villy (00:21:01) DunK: oh i see (00:21:03) Eagle Tequila: gotcha fuzzy (00:21:07) *************************************************************************************** (00:21:07) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:21:07) Current Players: Bagzooka, D-Bray, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Espeon, Fuzzy, Recalasce. (00:21:07) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:21:07) Time: Day 1 (00:21:07) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (00:21:07) *************************************************************************************** (00:21:14) Recalasce: So whad do we do as villagers just vote ou tmafia? (00:21:17) DunK: what does the lyncher do? + vote? (00:21:18) Espeon: this is like vanilla v2 (00:21:20) Eagle Tequila: and luncher (00:21:21) Recalasce: oh (00:21:22) Espeon: with an upgrade (00:21:23) Espeon: :o (00:21:28) Fuzzy: lyncher knows the lynchee, and if the lynchee is lynched, he wins (00:21:37) *************************************************************************************** (00:21:37) Times Up! : (00:21:37) No one was voted off! : (00:21:37) *************************************************************************************** (00:21:37) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:21:37) Current Players: Bagzooka, D-Bray, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Espeon, Fuzzy, Recalasce. (00:21:37) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:21:37) Time: Night 2 (00:21:37) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (00:21:37) *************************************************************************************** (00:21:38) DunK: ok (00:21:46) Recalasce: Villager here mafia on me :D (00:21:47) DunK: ./sleep (00:21:47) Fuzzy: so if someone is pushing too hard for someone to be lynched (00:21:47) DunK: ph (00:21:50) DunK: oh (00:21:50) Fuzzy: they might just be the lyncher (00:21:52) *************************************************************************************** (00:21:52) Times Up! : (00:21:52) ±Kill: Espeon (Villager) died! (00:21:52) *************************************************************************************** (00:21:52) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:21:52) Current Players: Bagzooka, D-Bray, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Recalasce. (00:21:52) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:21:52) Time: Day 2 (00:21:52) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (00:21:52) *************************************************************************************** (00:21:56) Espeon: WOW (00:21:56) Epikhairz0603: Lyncher has regular votes but knows lynchee, so he has to persuade village to lynch lynchee (00:21:57) Espeon: nice hate (00:21:59) Recalasce: lol (00:22:00) Espeon: ;-; (00:22:02) Recalasce: I say (00:22:05) Recalasce: Dunk for mafia haha (00:22:05) D-Bray: i think im mafia (00:22:08) Fuzzy: pretty much what Epikhairz0603 said (00:22:08) Eagle Tequila: Espeon stop dead talking (00:22:08) Recalasce: ^Lol (00:22:11) DunK: duh im villy (00:22:11) Bagzooka: Or just snipe vote (00:22:17) Epikhairz0603: Yah I got this theme yall :P (00:22:21) DunK: ^ (00:22:22) *************************************************************************************** (00:22:22) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:22:22) Current Players: Bagzooka, D-Bray, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy, Recalasce. (00:22:22) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:22:22) Time: Day 2 (00:22:22) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (00:22:22) *************************************************************************************** (00:22:24) DunK: :P (00:22:28) Fuzzy: well, vote sniping isnt enabled, its just more of uncertainty with ties (00:22:42) Recalasce: v (00:22:45) Bagzooka: Being lyncher is fun (00:22:46) ±Game: Recalasce voted for DunK! (00:22:48) ±Game: D-Bray voted for Bagzooka! (00:22:51) ±Game: Eagle Tequila voted for Recalasce! (00:22:51) ±Game: DunK voted for Recalasce! (00:22:53) DunK: oh (00:22:55) Bagzooka: Im villy (00:22:58) *************************************************************************************** (00:22:58) Times Up! : (00:22:58) ±Game: Recalasce (Lyncher) was removed from the game! (00:22:58) Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:22:58) Current Players: Bagzooka, D-Bray, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy. (00:22:58) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:22:58) Time: Night 3 (00:22:58) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (00:22:59) *************************************************************************************** (00:23:01) Fuzzy: lol (00:23:02) Eagle Tequila: pro (00:23:03) D-Bray: oh hey (00:23:05) Epikhairz0603: Awesomesauce :D (00:23:05) DunK: hahaha thats cool (00:23:05) Fuzzy: 1 down, 1 to go (00:23:07) D-Bray: i was wrong' (00:23:13) *************************************************************************************** (00:23:13) Times Up! : (00:23:13) ±Kill: D-Bray (Villager) died! (00:23:13) *************************************************************************************** (00:23:13) Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:23:14) Current Players: Bagzooka, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy. (00:23:14) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:23:14) Time: Day 3 (00:23:14) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (00:23:14) *************************************************************************************** (00:23:15) Bagzooka: -.- (00:23:18) Epikhairz0603: I knew Recalasce was Lyncher... (00:23:19) Fuzzy: now the lynchee is just like a regular villager (00:23:22) DunK: D-Bray thinks hes mafia (00:23:22) Eagle Tequila: i wonder who the lynchee was (00:23:27) DunK: ok (00:23:38) Epikhairz0603: Lynchee was prob DunK (00:23:43) DunK: ?? (00:23:43) *************************************************************************************** (00:23:43) Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (00:23:43) Current Players: Bagzooka, DunK, Eagle Tequila, Epikhairz0603, Fuzzy. (00:23:43) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (00:23:43) Time: Day 3 (00:23:43) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (00:23:43) *************************************************************************************** (00:23:48) Epikhairz0603: Cuz Recalasce accused DunK of Mafia (00:23:49) Eagle Tequila: lynch him for the lols? (00:23:52) Epikhairz0603: .-. (00:23:56) Fuzzy: no, lets assume dunk is clean (00:24:04) ±Game: Fuzzy voted for Eagle Tequila! (00:24:07) ±Game: Eagle Tequila voted for Fuzzy! (00:24:08) Fuzzy: lets lynch you for the lulz (00:24:08) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 voted for Eagle Tequila! (00:24:10) DunK: ughh, will i know if im lynchee from the start? (00:24:13) Fuzzy: nope (00:24:14) Eagle Tequila: well you guys win (00:24:15) *************************************************************************************** (00:24:15) Times Up! : (00:24:15) ±Game: Eagle Tequila (Mafia) was removed from the game! (00:24:15) ±Game: The Village (Fuzzy, DunK, Bagzooka and Epikhairz0603) wins! (00:24:15) *************************************************************************************** Its all about the strategy. The lyncher tried to take an early win and got countered. Then someone tried to lynch the almost guaranteed clean guy and got countered, ending the game.
Well after a game, APPROVED I would say 3/3 for this :D Well heres the game Spoiler (16:06:26) *************************************************************************************** (16:06:26) Times Up! : (16:06:26) The Roles have been Decided! : (16:06:26) ±Game: You are a Lyncher! (16:06:26) ±Game: Your goal is to remove the Lynchee, who you know from the start, from the game during the voting phase. If the Mafia kills your Lynchee, you will join the town and win with them. You win when the Lynchee is successfully lynched at any point in the game. (16:06:26) ±Game: The Villager is xxx trainer xxx! (16:06:26) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (16:06:26) Current Players: EpicSweepTime, Frozen Luigi, Human Destroyer, Josh Camp, Twinkling Army, xxx trainer xxx. (16:06:26) Current Team: Lyncher (16:06:26) Time: Night 1 (16:06:26) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (16:06:26) *************************************************************************************** (16:06:27) Josh Camp: i did that >.> (16:06:30) xxx trainer xxx: villy (16:06:31) Human Destroyer: ./vote [TARGET] (16:06:35) Human Destroyer: during the vote phase (16:06:39) ±Dratini: The_Best was muted by ShowMeTheMankey for 1 hour! [Reason: Inappropriate] [Channel: Tohjo Falls] (16:06:40) *************************************************************************************** (16:06:40) Times Up! : (16:06:40) No one died! : (16:06:40) *************************************************************************************** (16:06:40) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (16:06:40) Current Players: EpicSweepTime, Frozen Luigi, Human Destroyer, Josh Camp, Twinkling Army, xxx trainer xxx. (16:06:40) Current Team: Lyncher (16:06:40) Time: Day 1 (16:06:40) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (16:06:40) *************************************************************************************** (16:06:46) *** *********************************************************************** *** (16:06:46) ±Role: Lynchee (16:06:46) ±Ability: Converts Lyncher to Villager on death. Ends the game when lynched. Wins when both Mafia and either all Villagers or the Lyncher have been removed from the game. Sided with the Village (16:06:46) ±Game: Players (16:06:46) *** *********************************************************************** *** (16:06:46) ±Role: Lyncher (16:06:46) ±Ability: Knows the Lynchee from the start. Wins the game if the Lynchee is lynched. Sided with Lyncher. (16:06:46) ±Game: 3-10 Players (16:06:46) *** *********************************************************************** *** (16:06:46) ±Role: Mafia (16:06:46) ±Ability: Can kill one person during the night. Wins when only one other player remains in the game. Sided with the Mafia. (16:06:46) ±Game: 1-10 Players (16:06:46) *** *********************************************************************** *** (16:06:46) ±Role: Villager (16:06:46) ±Ability: Wins when both the Mafia and the Lyncher have been removed from the game. Sided with the Village. (16:06:46) ±Game: 4-10 Players (16:06:46) *** *********************************************************************** *** (16:06:47) Josh Camp: i did that though (16:06:57) Josh Camp: it said vote wasnt a command (16:06:58) Human Destroyer: this is the standby phase, not the vote phase (16:07:03) Twinkling Army: Josh Camp is new? (16:07:07) Human Destroyer: you need to wait for the vote phase for it to work (16:07:08) Josh Camp: no (16:07:09) xxx trainer xxx: during vote time (16:07:10) *************************************************************************************** (16:07:10) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (16:07:10) Current Players: EpicSweepTime, Frozen Luigi, Human Destroyer, Josh Camp, Twinkling Army, xxx trainer xxx. (16:07:10) Current Team: Lyncher (16:07:10) Time: Day 1 (16:07:10) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (16:07:10) *************************************************************************************** (16:07:14) Frozen Luigi: now (16:07:16) Josh Camp: i just dont play mafia much (16:07:19) ±Dratini: ZZeezEX was muted by ShowMeTheMankey for 30 minutes! [Reason: Rule 5] [Channel: Tohjo Falls] (16:07:20) Frozen Luigi: oh (16:07:21) Human Destroyer: now you would be able to vote, yeah (16:07:25) Twinkling Army: Human Destroyer teaching? (16:07:26) Frozen Luigi: no rands (16:07:31) xxx trainer xxx: k (16:07:42) *************************************************************************************** (16:07:42) Times Up! : (16:07:42) No one was voted off! : (16:07:42) *************************************************************************************** (16:07:42) Current Roles: Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (16:07:42) Current Players: EpicSweepTime, Frozen Luigi, Human Destroyer, Josh Camp, Twinkling Army, xxx trainer xxx. (16:07:42) Current Team: Lyncher (16:07:42) Time: Night 2 (16:07:42) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (16:07:42) *************************************************************************************** (16:07:58) *************************************************************************************** (16:07:58) Times Up! : (16:07:58) ±Kill: xxx trainer xxx (Villager) died! (16:07:58) ±Game: You are a Villager! (16:07:58) ±Game: You have no special abilities beyond the right to vote now. You win when the Mafia has been removed from the game. (16:07:58) ±Kill: The Lynchee has been killed! (16:07:58) *************************************************************************************** (16:07:58) Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (16:07:58) Current Players: EpicSweepTime, Frozen Luigi, Human Destroyer, Josh Camp, Twinkling Army. (16:07:58) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (16:07:58) Time: Day 2 (16:07:58) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (16:07:58) *************************************************************************************** (16:08:03) Human Destroyer: lol (16:08:04) EpicSweepTime: lol (16:08:07) Frozen Luigi: NOooo (16:08:18) Human Destroyer: who was the lyncher? (16:08:24) Frozen Luigi: now i rand (16:08:28) *************************************************************************************** (16:08:28) Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (16:08:28) Current Players: EpicSweepTime, Frozen Luigi, Human Destroyer, Josh Camp, Twinkling Army. (16:08:28) Current Team: Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager (16:08:28) Time: Day 2 (16:08:28) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (16:08:28) *************************************************************************************** (16:08:30) ±Game: Frozen Luigi voted for EpicSweepTime! (16:08:33) Twinkling Army: First time I am seeing HD in mafia (16:08:33) Twinkling Army: lol (16:08:38) ±Game: EpicSweepTime voted for Twinkling Army! (16:08:40) Frozen Luigi: lol (16:08:43) Human Destroyer: I play mafia a lot -.- (16:08:47) ±Game: Twinkling Army voted for EpicSweepTime! (16:08:50) ±Game: Human Destroyer voted for EpicSweepTime! (16:08:50) EpicSweepTime: -.- (16:08:54) EpicSweepTime: gg (16:08:54) Twinkling Army: I mean the first time I am seeing (16:08:54) EpicSweepTime: guys (16:08:58) *************************************************************************************** (16:08:58) Times Up! : (16:08:58) ±Game: EpicSweepTime (Mafia) was removed from the game! (16:08:58) ±Game: The Village (Human Destroyer, Josh Camp, Frozen Luigi and Twinkling Army) wins! (16:08:58) ***************************************************************************************[/HIDE]
Kedustealer, you are not a QC member as far as I can tell. :I You can post your ideas and thoughts on the theme, as well as anything else, but no bolded approve/deny.
Don't think I can do that anymore either :\. What up with the influx of non-peak themes? Did mafia dry up that much, or are people out of ideas after 60 themes or whatever we have now? Anyways, wanted to do something to show that I wasn't dead. This theme seems easy enough to review. Well, again, another one of those "so strategical it can only be played in small games" themes. I like it though. It's simple, yet effective. It's not like Vanilla where people just wait around and rand hoping for the best. The Lyncher pair takes a normal mechanic and makes it into a interesting win condition. Village takes a more prominent role. Yup. I'd accept if I could.
@ Tesla: Vengeful and Dethy get boring after awhile. I'm personally aiming to hopefully get at least 5 non-peaks on the server so people can play in a rotation without needing an MA to start themes.
:O You're alive. Hope all is well. Anyway, non-peak are more wanted for variety. Just like normal themes. There are some good ones that are being produced already!
After reading through the test logs, I can say I like the concept of the theme. My main issue is how this works when pitted against rand mentality, but I remember as people got more used to Dethy, strategy quickly developed. I'll accept [3] this; the longer it's on, the better it can be played. EDIT: Yeah, please customize the /roles info text to be more helpful to new players. :P
I post a log of a game: Spoiler [/HIDE] The lynchee role is very confusing, there isnt info about it in the description too. Anyway i think lynchee role can be informed at least, just my opinion.
The problem with that is, "Lynchee here, don't lynch me" Now the Lyncher has practically no chance of winning, unless they try to fake Lynchee too... We could test a version with that and see how it pans out. It might help Mafia if they could also claim Lynchee, might make village hesitate a bit too much though. On paper it might be good, in practice the cons>pros.
Game has problems at 3 players since lynchee can't win the game. How about making there no mafia at 4 so just 2 villagers vs a lyncher (to give the village some chance of winning).
Lynchee wins if Mafia gets lynched (Since the Lyncher is no longer able to successfully lynch the lynchee). The Lyncher wins if the Lynchee gets lynched. The Mafia wins if no one gets lynched. However, I noticed there was a problem with the code, so this has been fixed.
Lyncher votes first. Lyncher must vote Lynchee or lose. Lynchee can vote either mafia or lyncher. Mafia just no votes and it can't lose. Thus a good lyncher won't vote first. If mafia votes first They vote lynchee and they lose as lyncher hammers. They vote lyncher In which case the lyncher must vote lynchee or lose and the lynchee will know that lyncher wouldn't vote first (as above) thus since the mafia can't be lynched then they can do nothing to win so either vote the no vote/tie it/vote lyncher making mafia win or they vote theme self letting lyncher win. Mafia has a low chance of winning here so it's better to no vote. If villager votes first It votes lyncher in which case mafia wins. Or it votes mafia in which case anyone can win but the mafia/lyncher must decide if the other or the lynchee wins. Thus lynchee must vote first or it will lose and since nobody else wants to vote first then it will. So in theory: Villager has a 25% chance to win. Mafia has 62.5% chance to win. Lyncher has a 12.5% chance to win. Which seems pretty unbalanced.
Complaint about the theme (log to explain my points, check bold stuff) Spoiler (20:25:54) *************************************************************************************** (20:25:54) Times Up! : (20:25:54) The Roles have been Decided! : (20:25:54) ±Game: You are a Lyncher! (20:25:54) ±Game: Your goal is to remove the Lynchee, who you know from the start, from the game during the voting phase. If the Mafia kills your Lynchee, you will join the town and win with them. You win when the Lynchee is successfully lynched at any point in the game. (20:25:54) ±Game: The Lynchee is Meway! (20:25:54) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:25:54) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, RiceKirby, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, Zidane FFIX, pikachu33. (20:25:54) ±Current Team: Lyncher (20:25:54) ±Time: Night 1 (20:25:54) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (20:25:54) *************************************************************************************** (20:25:56) Sorra: It was quite obvious Whales was mafia. o-o (20:25:57) Roild: Lets roll. (20:25:57) Joeypals: And then I have a mound of homework to do (20:25:59) Parakinetic: willager (20:26:02) Sorra: How was that not apparent. (20:26:05) Roild: Wily Coyote here (20:26:06) Parakinetic: winch we (20:26:06) Joeypals: Remember, never follow the first vote (20:26:08) Roild: PRs go away (20:26:09) *************************************************************************************** (20:26:09) Times Up! : (20:26:09) No one died! : (20:26:09) *************************************************************************************** (20:26:09) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:26:09) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, RiceKirby, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, Zidane FFIX, pikachu33. (20:26:09) ±Current Team: Lyncher (20:26:09) ±Time: Day 1 (20:26:09) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (20:26:09) *************************************************************************************** (20:26:11) Actress Kitty: im a lilligant (20:26:12) Meway: will money for work (20:26:14) Roild: I protected RiceKirby (20:26:16) Roild: Haha! (20:26:17) Zidane FFIX: 4 hrs 33 minutes until the USA defaults on their debt (20:26:20) RiceKirby: Thanks Roild (20:26:22) Joeypals: Any rand shall be countered (20:26:23) Whalesaysmoo: how wwas it apparent (20:26:32) Roild: Hm. (20:26:39) *************************************************************************************** (20:26:39) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:26:39) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, RiceKirby, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, Zidane FFIX, pikachu33. (20:26:39) ±Current Team: Lyncher (20:26:39) ±Time: Day 1 (20:26:39) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (20:26:39) *************************************************************************************** (20:26:41) Meway: ill buy america for 1 euro then (20:26:44) Joeypals: lol (20:26:47) Zidane FFIX: roild would you decline my theme for beiung 3-25 players? (20:26:47) RiceKirby: So we are simply let Mafia kil us all? (20:26:48) Roild: Hi what (20:26:52) Roild: Yes Zidane FFIX (20:26:58) Roild: Hi Whalesaysmoo (20:27:03) Meway: hi roild (20:27:05) Joeypals: Well, Rice, until Lyncher/Lynchee is out of the way (20:27:08) Whalesaysmoo: hi rolid (20:27:08) Artemisa joined the channel. (20:27:09) Joeypals: Then we play like Vanilla (20:27:09) Roild: Hello, Meway (20:27:10) *************************************************************************************** (20:27:10) Times Up! : (20:27:10) No one was voted off! : (20:27:10) *************************************************************************************** (20:27:10) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:27:10) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, RiceKirby, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, Zidane FFIX, pikachu33. (20:27:10) ±Current Team: Lyncher (20:27:10) ±Time: Night 2 (20:27:10) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (20:27:10) *************************************************************************************** (20:27:15) Roild: And no. Waiting isn't good to me (20:27:15) RiceKirby: Lame strategy is lame (20:27:21) Zidane FFIX: nice progress, nice progress (20:27:23) Parakinetic: that blows. (20:27:25) *************************************************************************************** (20:27:25) Times Up! : (20:27:25) No one died! : (20:27:25) *************************************************************************************** (20:27:25) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:27:25) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, RiceKirby, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, Zidane FFIX, pikachu33. (20:27:25) ±Current Team: Lyncher (20:27:25) ±Time: Day 2 (20:27:25) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (20:27:25) *************************************************************************************** (20:27:30) Roild: Okay then. (20:27:31) Meway: mafia really (20:27:32) Joeypals: Or they're afk? (20:27:33) Sorra: Mafia plans on stalling (20:27:34) RiceKirby: Guess Mafia won't kill (20:27:35) Roild: Hi Pikachu Master (20:27:38) Roild: er, pikachu33 (20:27:50) Meway: Joeypals are you the MAFIA? (20:27:51) pikachu33: viily (20:27:53) pikachu33: my bad (20:27:55) *************************************************************************************** (20:27:55) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:27:55) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, RiceKirby, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, Zidane FFIX, pikachu33. (20:27:55) ±Current Team: Lyncher (20:27:55) ±Time: Day 2 (20:27:55) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (20:27:55) *************************************************************************************** (20:27:59) Joeypals: Please, like I'd actually stall the game (20:28:01) RiceKirby: I call Parakinetic Lynchee, Roild Mafia and pikachu33 Lyncher (20:28:02) Roild: No. (20:28:05) Joeypals: When I get a role that kills, I can use it (20:28:06) Roild: Yes (20:28:07) Meway: you said that once (20:28:08) Meway: too (20:28:09) Roild: @ RiceKirby (20:28:09) Joeypals: *I like to use it (20:28:12) Whalesaysmoo: mafia here (20:28:12) Parakinetic: yeh ice i always get lynchee (20:28:13) Meway: and you were mafia (20:28:14) Roild: Anyhoo, we need to vote (20:28:14) Parakinetic: it sucks (20:28:16) Joeypals: Meway, I DC'd that game (20:28:19) Joeypals: So try again (20:28:19) Sorra: I'd take my chances with Pikachu33 being mafia. (20:28:20) ±Game: RiceKirby voted for Roild! (20:28:20) pikachu33: why am i always assumed to be bad (20:28:21) Whalesaysmoo: jk (20:28:22) RiceKirby: Let's do this (20:28:23) ±Game: Roild voted for RiceKirby! (20:28:23) ±Game: Meway voted for RiceKirby! (20:28:23) ±Game: Joeypals voted for RiceKirby! (20:28:24) ±Game: Zidane FFIX voted for Parakinetic! (20:28:25) RiceKirby: Stalling sux (20:28:29) Parakinetic: wat (20:28:30) Roild: And suddenly counter? What is that. (20:28:31) *************************************************************************************** (20:28:31) Times Up! : (20:28:31) ±Game: RiceKirby (Lyncher) was removed from the game! (20:28:31) ±Kill: The Lyncher has been killed! (20:28:31) *************************************************************************************** (20:28:31) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:28:31) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, Zidane FFIX, pikachu33. (20:28:31) ±Time: Night 3 (20:28:31) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (20:28:31) *************************************************************************************** (20:28:32) Joeypals: Then get countered fool (20:28:34) Chromium left the channel. (20:28:35) Roild: rofl (20:28:36) Meway: hax (20:28:36) Parakinetic: llawl (20:28:37) Roild: I must be lynchee (20:28:38) Meway: I was lynchee (20:28:39) Zidane FFIX: pro (20:28:42) Sorra: :I (20:28:45) Joeypals: Well hi Mewayy :) (20:28:46) *************************************************************************************** (20:28:46) Times Up! : (20:28:46) ±Kill: Zidane FFIX (Villager) died! (20:28:46) *************************************************************************************** (20:28:46) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:28:46) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, pikachu33. (20:28:46) ±Time: Day 3 (20:28:46) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (20:28:46) *************************************************************************************** (20:28:48) Roild: W-what (20:28:50) Sorra: Well we can focus on Mafia now. (20:28:53) Joeypals: Yup (20:28:57) rapter left the channel. (20:29:00) Joeypals: Meway's the only clean one so he can rand (20:29:07) Meway: he ._. (20:29:10) Roild: Rice voted me. (20:29:12) Sorra: Being the one with the strange name, it's pretty evident I'm totally mafia. (20:29:16) Meway: Ill make my name pink then (20:29:16) *************************************************************************************** (20:29:16) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:29:16) ±Current Players: Actress Kitty, Joeypals, Meway, Parakinetic, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, pikachu33. (20:29:16) ±Time: Day 3 (20:29:16) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (20:29:16) *************************************************************************************** (20:29:22) Parakinetic: how is meway clean even (20:29:23) ±Game: Meway voted for Actress Kitty! (20:29:26) ±Game: Sorra voted for Actress Kitty! (20:29:28) Meway: I was lynchee (20:29:31) Joeypals: Slay me I have to make dinner cause people are making me do shit left and right (20:29:31) Roild: That was my lynch a days back (20:29:32) Konoha Roll joined the channel. (20:29:33) ±Game: Joeypals voted for Actress Kitty! (20:29:34) Roild: RiceKirby voted me. :P (20:29:36) ±Slay: Joeypals will be slain by Roild after the phase ends! (20:29:37) DracoNinja left the channel. (20:29:39) ingridslove left the channel. (20:29:40) Roild: Joeypals, you knew you'd be busy (20:29:40) Joeypals: I'll put in that vote though (20:29:43) Roild: Don't join if you can't play (20:29:46) *************************************************************************************** (20:29:46) Times Up! : (20:29:46) ±Game: Actress Kitty (Villager) was removed from the game! (20:29:46) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:29:46) ±Current Players: Meway, Parakinetic, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, pikachu33. (20:29:46) ±Time: Night 4 (20:29:46) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (20:29:46) *************************************************************************************** (20:29:46) ±Slay: Joeypals (Villager) was slain by Roild! (20:30:01) *************************************************************************************** (20:30:01) Times Up! : (20:30:01) ±Kill: Meway (Villager) died! (20:30:01) *************************************************************************************** (20:30:01) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:30:01) ±Current Players: Parakinetic, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, pikachu33. (20:30:01) ±Time: Day 4 (20:30:01) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (20:30:01) *************************************************************************************** (20:30:05) Sorra: I think Roild was the Lynchee, so if that's the case, then he should rand. (20:30:18) Roild: 5 people (20:30:22) Zony11 joined the channel. (20:30:23) Roild: We can vote now once and once later (20:30:31) *************************************************************************************** (20:30:31) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:30:31) ±Current Players: Parakinetic, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo, pikachu33. (20:30:31) ±Time: Day 4 (20:30:31) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (20:30:31) *************************************************************************************** (20:30:38) ±Game: Roild voted for pikachu33! (20:30:42) ±Game: Sorra voted for pikachu33! (20:30:43) Roild: Seems about right (20:30:43) pikachu33: it'snot me (20:30:44) ±Game: Parakinetic voted for pikachu33! (20:30:46) pikachu33: but ok (20:30:50) Sorra: That's what they all say (20:30:53) Matt Ayala joined the channel. (20:30:58) pikachu33: i'm always assumed bad but never am (20:31:03) MewtwoHidden left the channel. (20:31:05) *************************************************************************************** (20:31:05) Times Up! : (20:31:05) ±Game: pikachu33 (Villager) was removed from the game! (20:31:05) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager, Villager. (20:31:05) ±Current Players: Parakinetic, Roild, Sorra, Whalesaysmoo. (20:31:05) ±Time: Night 5 (20:31:05) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (20:31:05) *************************************************************************************** (20:31:10) Parakinetic: RIP (20:31:13) Roild: hm. (20:31:13) Parakinetic: :/ (20:31:14) Sorra: Hm.. (20:31:20) Sorra: Either me, Whale or Para. (20:31:21) *************************************************************************************** (20:31:21) Times Up! : (20:31:21) ±Kill: Sorra (Villager) died! (20:31:21) *************************************************************************************** (20:31:21) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager. (20:31:21) ±Current Players: Parakinetic, Roild, Whalesaysmoo. (20:31:21) ±Time: Day 5 (20:31:21) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (20:31:21) *************************************************************************************** (20:31:27) MewtwoHidden joined the channel. (20:31:32) Parakinetic: whale is pretty quiet (20:31:34) Matt Ayala left the channel. (20:31:41) Roild: I said hello to him d1 (20:31:47) Parakinetic: usually he talks though (20:31:47) Parakinetic: idk (20:31:50) *************************************************************************************** (20:31:50) ±Current Roles: Mafia, Villager, Villager. (20:31:50) ±Current Players: Parakinetic, Roild, Whalesaysmoo. (20:31:50) ±Time: Day 5 (20:31:50) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (20:31:50) *************************************************************************************** (20:31:52) Roild: Hi Whalesaysmoo (20:31:55) Roild: You there? (20:31:59) MewtwoHidden left the channel. (20:32:01) insularum joined the channel. (20:32:07) ±Game: Roild voted for Whalesaysmoo! (20:32:10) ±Game: Parakinetic voted for Whalesaysmoo! (20:32:17) Parakinetic: pls roild dont be mafia (20:32:17) Roild: Gg RiceKirby (20:32:19) Windblown: gg Roild amirite (20:32:20) *************************************************************************************** (20:32:20) Times Up! : (20:32:20) ±Game: Whalesaysmoo (Villager) was removed from the game! (20:32:20) ±Game: The Mafia (Roild) wins! (20:32:20) ±Game: The Village (Parakinetic) lose! (20:32:20) *************************************************************************************** (20:32:24) RiceKirby: What's the point of playing Lyncher if we are simply going to wait for Mafia to kill Lynchee/Lyncher? It would be better to simply play Vanilla then (20:32:24) Parakinetic: gah (20:32:26) Sorra: PLOT TWIST. (20:32:28) Gyappu left the channel. (20:32:28) Sorra: o_o (20:32:29) MewtwoHidden joined the channel. (20:32:29) RiceKirby: And you are welcome, Roild (20:32:34) Roild: I don't wait much, RiceKirby. (20:32:35) Parakinetic: well i couldn't have won anyways (20:32:39) Roild: But leading wasn't good with that crowd (20:32:44) RiceKirby: Even as Lyncher, I would never try randing Lynchee D1 (20:32:50) RiceKirby: It's far too obvious (20:32:56) Roild: Everyone in that crowd was "oh no, what if lyncher lynches" (20:33:03) RiceKirby: It's annoying (20:33:10) insularum left the channel. (20:33:11) Roild: Play the people, not the game? :3 (20:33:29) Parakinetic: yo ice do you like rice First thing, you should add silentConvert to Lyncher's onDeath fo Lynchee won't know they are Lynchee. Having a clean person in this kind of theme is lame, and it prevents trickery like the one me and Roild pulled off if the rest of the players know how the theme works (I randed Roild, so some people thought he was Lynchee, which wouldn't work if people paid attention to Meway). Second, it's really boring to see games like this one where everyone is simply doing nothing until the game becomes Vanilla. It takes away the whole purpose the theme exists, and I feel some way to encourage/force people voting should be added (Perhaps similar to what I-don't-remember-which-theme got that people would be poisoned and everyone's poison would reset if someone is lynched?)
I notice that most of the comments that IK mentions come from the same source, which is Joeypals: Spoiler (17:39:24) *************************************************************************************** (17:39:24) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager. (17:39:24) ±Current Players: Daybreak, Joeypals, QsDark, WuvvieHeart654, brock 2.0. (17:39:24) ±Time: Day 3 (17:39:24) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (17:39:24) *************************************************************************************** (17:39:24) WuvvieHeart654: if lynchee is nightkilled, we have another ally on our side if he has't died already (17:39:24) Joeypals: Can we STOP voting already (17:39:26) Daybreak: no counter randing either (17:39:34) brock 2.0: wait (17:39:39) Daybreak: imtbh we have to vote soon (17:39:42) Joeypals: No, we shouldn't be voting period (17:39:47) WuvvieHeart654: I am NOT voting (17:39:49) brock 2.0: so ninja was not lynchee? (17:39:55) QsDark: I know who mafia is (17:39:55) *************************************************************************************** (17:39:55) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Mafia, Villager, Villager. (17:39:55) ±Current Players: Daybreak, Joeypals, QsDark, WuvvieHeart654, brock 2.0. (17:39:55) ±Time: Day 3 (17:39:55) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (17:39:55) *************************************************************************************** (17:39:56) WuvvieHeart654: cuz everytime we vote bad stuff happens (17:39:56) Joeypals: Mafia should just make the kills til we get to Vanilla (17:39:57) ±Game: QsDark voted for brock 2.0! (17:39:59) brock 2.0: no voting (17:40:02) QsDark: i know who it is (17:40:04) Joeypals: Just fucking stop already! (17:40:04) QsDark: its brock (17:40:07) ±Game: Joeypals voted for QsDark! (17:40:07) ±Game: brock 2.0 voted for QsDark! (17:40:08) ±Game: Daybreak voted for QsDark! (17:40:11) QsDark: lol (17:40:13) QsDark: trololololol (17:40:13) ±Game: WuvvieHeart654 voted for QsDark! (17:40:14) *************************************************************************************** (17:40:14) Times Up! : (17:40:14) ±Game: QsDark (Mafia) was removed from the game! (17:40:14) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Villager, Villager. (17:40:14) ±Current Players: Daybreak, Joeypals, WuvvieHeart654, brock 2.0. (17:40:14) ±Time: Night 4 (17:40:15) Make your moves, you only have 15 seconds! : (17:40:15) *************************************************************************************** (17:40:15) Daybreak: inb4 lost (17:40:15) brock 2.0: that nice of u qs (17:40:18) Daybreak: gg (17:40:20) brock 2.0: gg (17:40:22) brock 2.0: lol (17:40:25) Joeypals: ...shit now we do have to vote (17:40:29) WuvvieHeart654: We need to get lyncher (17:40:29) *************************************************************************************** (17:40:29) Times Up! : (17:40:29) No one died! : (17:40:29) *************************************************************************************** (17:40:29) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Villager, Villager. (17:40:29) ±Current Players: Daybreak, Joeypals, WuvvieHeart654, brock 2.0. (17:40:30) ±Time: Day 4 (17:40:30) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (17:40:30) *************************************************************************************** (17:40:31) Daybreak: now we need to lynch the lyncher without the lynchee (17:40:40) brock 2.0: bye guys kill me (17:40:42) Joeypals: Gah... (17:40:46) brock 2.0: im lyncher (17:40:48) WuvvieHeart654: mafia's not here so we can't have lyncher as an ally and end this (17:40:49) brock 2.0: bye (17:40:50) Daybreak: wat (17:40:59) *************************************************************************************** (17:40:59) ±Current Roles: Lynchee, Lyncher, Villager, Villager. (17:40:59) ±Current Players: Daybreak, Joeypals, WuvvieHeart654, brock 2.0. (17:41:00) ±Time: Day 4 (17:41:00) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (17:41:00) *************************************************************************************** (17:41:00) brock 2.0: no mafia (17:41:06) brock 2.0: bye guys (17:41:07) brock 2.0: gg (17:41:09) WuvvieHeart654: I JUST SAID THAT. (17:41:11) WuvvieHeart654: Okay gg (17:41:12) Joeypals: ...it's not that hard to fool people (17:41:17) Joeypals: w/e I'm voting brock (17:41:20) ±Game: Joeypals voted for brock 2.0! (17:41:21) ±Game: Daybreak voted for brock 2.0! (17:41:21) WuvvieHeart654: Me too (17:41:22) ±Game: brock 2.0 voted for brock 2.0! (17:41:25) ±Game: WuvvieHeart654 voted for brock 2.0! (17:41:25) *************************************************************************************** (17:41:25) Times Up! : (17:41:25) ±Game: brock 2.0 (Lyncher) was removed from the game! (17:41:26) ±Kill: The Lyncher has been killed! Maybe we should get his opinion regarding the game. EDITED
I'll work on it later tonight, the game is originally set up so you can't "No lynch" but that doesn't always work in Server Mafia... I'll come up with an alternative.
Well, I'm so glad you asked. The reason why I say what I say is that it simply isn't safe to follow a vote because who knows if the voter is the Lyncher or just a random Villager. The theme is fine on it's own, but it needs work so that it doesn't end up being put on the shoulders of Mafia to kill off the Lyncher/Lynchee and thus making the game a pseudo-Vanilla. In my opinion, for game of... 6-10 people (you can adjust if needed), the Lyncher and Lynchee should be unable to be killed. This will force the village to vote and thus alter tactics for the Lyncher. Just an idea, but that's my personal opinion so I can stop saying lines like that. Sure it'd toughen chances for the Mafia, but what are the odds of the Mafia being randed out Day 1 with this format? At the very highest, 1/10.
Lyncher is difficult because everyone has the mindset of 'if you start off the vote, you're probably lyncher,' leading to counterwagons on the first voter (whereas in vanilla, not many people counter). A simple 2 day poison might benefit that rather than giving lyncher/lynchee bulletproof because it allows the mafia to kill all the other villagers until we get to 3p mafia/lyncher/lynchee, which, as shown above, does not balance out well.
Who would have the poison? Just making sure I understand you. EDIT: nvm I got it I'm just slow lol. An InitialCondition of poison with a count of 2 and a reset after a lynch would light a fire to the point where you're forcing people vote without disrupting the balance. Why didn't I think of that? Lol
Theme has been removed (some time ago this happened) If anyone wants the theme, its first come first serve no need to ask. Just keep in mind it was removed because it was bad/broken, so you'll have quite a bit of work ahead of you trying to fix the major issues.