Nonary (Numbers)

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  1. Opale

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    HUGE FIRST POST CHANGE

    The other first post was far too old and was full of things corrected today. So it's create a clean, updated, one. I know wait for accepts or rejects.
    So !

    The Nonary theme is a way more complex theme than others. It uses the logic of "semi-inspector" , based on digit modulation, meaning that inspectors got to work together to get a perfect info, otherwise they will get only partial one. Also mean he's harder to learn and so not much popular ... for now, i hope ! I don't lose trust into a harder theme, for once.
    There are 10 roles, having the following powers.

    This theme is highly inspired of the game 999, in which runs the Nonary game. (Best game on DS to me, marked 19/20 by everyone ^^ But not the subject.)

    IG summary :
    "In the Nonary theme, numbers 1 through 7 have to fight off 8 and 9 (mafia mayor and mafia killer) as well as 0 (killer that ignores distract). Numbers 2 and 3 are your inspectors who get a result based on division: 2 sees even numbers as 0 and odd numbers as 1. 3 sees numbers divisible by 3 (3, 6, 9) as 0, gets 1 when its inspect can be divided with a remainder of 1 (1, 4, 7) and 2 when its inspect can be divided with a remainder of 2 (2, 5, 8). Both inspectors see the 0 as 1, so they have to work together to find and lynch it. Work with 1 (standard villager), 4(Has -3 votes to counter 8's +3 vote), 5 (BG, can also self-BG), 6(PL), and 7(villager with -1 vote) to determine the bad numbers and win the game !"

    1 : Villy.
    2 : "Semi-inspector 1" : Is able to know if the digit is odd or even.
    It means that he'll get the following info : XXX is 0 or XXX is 1, and it actually means if XXX is 0 that he can be 2,4,6,8. For 1 , 0/1,3,5,7,9. No other special things.
    3 : The other "Semi-inspector" : Is able to know the result of division by 3. 0 -> 3,6,9 ; 1->1,4,7 ; 2->2,5,8. No other special things.
    4 : Huge voteshielder. Got a -3 vote. Nothing special, else.
    5 : BG.
    6 : PL.
    7 : Got a -1 vote. Villy otherwise.
    8 : BAD Bad mayor : +3 votes.
    9 : BAD Night killer.
    0 : ZERO The "whatthefuckisthisshit" role. 0 is a really complicated role. The list of his abilities is :
    Can 0 priority nightkill - Can inspect - Evades nightkill and distract - got a +0,1 vote - Reveals as 1 to all inspections - Knows 9 since the beginning.

    EXPLANATIONS

    • 1) 2 and 3 inspections.
    If you thought a bit about it or you do maths, you know the Euclide division used here is a modulation. The 2 and 3 modulations (it works with any prime numbers) result in knowing the first 2*3 modulations result.
    By the following inspections :
    0/1 - 7 -> 1 [2] ; 1*[3]
    2 - 8 -> 0 [2] ; 2 [3]
    3 - 9 -> 1 [2] ; 0 [3]
    4 -> 0 [2] ; 1 [3]
    5 -> 1 [2] ; 2 [3]
    6 -> 0*[2] ; 0 [3]

    When you know both results, you can deduce if the person is 0/1/7 or 2/8 or 3/9 or 4 or 5 or 6.
    And 2 and 3 are supposed to be known, if you know the two insps. Meaning you can deduce 0/1/7-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9.
    Nearly as a real inspector. And that's the point. If you know both. The game is built on two things, and that's one of them.

    • 2) The 0 role.
    Nearly all the roles are simple ... but this one is the exception confirming rule.
    To figure out the logic, ask yourself the question : How can you win as zero ?
    Having a 0,1 vote for a solo role makes it incredibly difficult. The only path to succeed is making the game a 3 man turn at last turn, and having one vote failing. In order to help, zero can't be nightkilled and reveals as 1 and 7, so in order to kill him, people must really figure out who he is by his attitude (and logic deductions is 1s are dead...)
    Also, in order to get to the final battle alive, 0 must prevent any side to own the other. Having a shieldpiercing kill let him crush good side claims if it gets dangerous, and knowing 9 from the beginning help him crush the bad side if it goes wrong.
    If he kills 9 too early, he'll just get eaten by the good side busy killing 0/1s.
    That means the bad side would enjoy killing 0 much, but they're not enough powerfull to handle the whole side alone if he dies. So that's ... a game of betrayal , right ?
    In order to help with knowledge, he can inspect.
    That's the other thing the game is built on.
    We made a test with 0 not knowing 9, it went bad, 0 couldn't find 9 without luck and bad numbers were owning. I think it's better to keep it this way.

    • 3) 4 and 8 fight.
    8 got a +3 vote, 4 a -3 vote. Not random. If 8 is revealed, 4 can counter him openly. On the other side, if 4 dies, 8 gets incredibly powerfull. The bad side, must, to be fast, seek and kill two people : 0 and 4.

    Code :
    http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Lx8tWpJU
    The theme is ready and is working for tests.

    I made it playable for 3-30 players here.

    Last log, 0 won (9 = 9. That makes sense.) :
    ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:20:54) Times Up! :
    (19:20:54) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (19:20:54) ±Game: You are a 9!
    (19:20:54) ±Game: As 9, you decided that inferior numbers were no longer interesting and you and 8 shall rules in place of 0, 1 and his friends. You got a nightkill, and a +1 vote. Sided with the bad numbers.
    (19:20:54) ±Game: Your team is 9 (9) and Ballom (8).
    (19:20:54) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
    (19:20:54) Current Players: 9, Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, a vaporeon, sakina, tyrant.
    (19:20:54) Current Team: 8, 9
    (19:20:54) Time: Night 1
    (19:20:54) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:20:54) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:20:56) Ballom: im not good at nos
    (19:21:04) Roy Mustang: bazooka, calling people idiots is why
    (19:21:07) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Chilin!
    (19:21:15) a vaporeon: i assume 9 is 9
    (19:21:16) *** tyrant stands atop all
    (19:21:24) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:21:24) Times Up! :
    (19:21:24) ±Game: You couldn't act this night, being too busy clearing this 6 invasion.
    (19:21:24) You disappeared from decimal system.
    (19:21:24) ±Porygon: 9 (9) was erased !
    (19:21:24) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:21:24) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
    (19:21:24) Current Players: Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, a vaporeon, sakina, tyrant.
    (19:21:24) Time: Day 1
    (19:21:24) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:21:24) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:21:27) Whataboutthis: LOL
    (19:21:28) a vaporeon: yup
    (19:21:28) Lizz: lol
    (19:21:29) *** Ballom is confused
    (19:21:31) Cheezeburgar: lul
    (19:21:36) sakina:
    (19:21:44) Whataboutthis: only 0 and 8 left...
    (19:21:44) ±Dratini: Mark Evans was muted by Hannah for 1 hour! [Reason: Spam] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (19:21:47) Whataboutthis: and 8 has 4 votes
    (19:21:52) Whataboutthis: and 0 can inspect and kill
    (19:21:53) a vaporeon: 8 has 3
    (19:21:54) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:21:54) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
    (19:21:54) Current Players: Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, a vaporeon, sakina, tyrant.
    (19:21:54) Time: Day 1
    (19:21:54) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:21:54) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:22:01) Whataboutthis: oh lol
    (19:22:01) a vaporeon: 4 has -3
    (19:22:07) Roy Mustang: 4 has negative votes
    (19:22:08) Ballom: so 8 is the mayor fr the baddies?
    (19:22:09) sakina: Ballom?
    (19:22:13) Ballom: wat?
    (19:22:19) ±Dratini: Mark Evans was unmuted by Hannah!
    (19:22:20) ±Dratini: Mark Evans was muted by Hannah for 3 hours! [Reason: Spam, mute request extension granted!] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (19:22:23) Arcturus: Lizz is 0147. Three here
    (19:22:24) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:22:24) Times Up! :
    (19:22:24) No one was voted off! :
    (19:22:24) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:22:24) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
    (19:22:24) Current Players: Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, a vaporeon, sakina, tyrant.
    (19:22:24) Time: Night 2
    (19:22:24) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:22:24) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:22:35) Whataboutthis: haha Hannah
    (19:22:54) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:22:54) Times Up! :
    (19:22:54) ±Porygon: sakina (5) was erased !
    (19:22:54) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:22:54) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8.
    (19:22:54) Current Players: Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, a vaporeon, tyrant.
    (19:22:54) Time: Day 2
    (19:22:54) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:22:54) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:23:15) Chilin: should i rand?
    (19:23:17) Whataboutthis: what the derp
    (19:23:29) a vaporeon: u are?
    (19:23:29) Whataboutthis: is going on
    (19:23:29) Ballom: r u the insp?
    (19:23:29) Arcturus: sakina visited ballom.
    (19:23:31) tyrant: depends on hu u will rand...
    (19:23:32) Ballom: chilin?
    (19:23:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:23:34) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8.
    (19:23:34) Current Players: Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, a vaporeon, tyrant.
    (19:23:34) Time: Day 2
    (19:23:34) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:23:34) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:23:37) Ballom: so im cleaned right
    (19:23:44) a vaporeon: how are u cleaned
    (19:23:46) Whataboutthis: not really
    (19:23:53) Roy Mustang: self vote to find 8?
    (19:23:56) Whataboutthis: k
    (19:23:58) Ballom: k
    (19:24:04) ±Game: a vaporeon voted for a vaporeon!
    (19:24:05) ±Game: Roy Mustang voted for Roy Mustang!
    (19:24:05) ±Game: Lizz voted for Lizz!
    (19:24:05) ±Game: Arcturus voted for Arcturus!
    (19:24:10) ±Game: tyrant voted for tyrant!
    (19:24:11) Whataboutthis: you know if 8 doesn't do this...
    (19:24:13) Whataboutthis: i'll kill myself
    (19:24:16) Whataboutthis: i claim 6
    (19:24:18) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:24:18) Times Up! :
    (19:24:18) No one was voted off! :
    (19:24:18) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:24:18) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8.
    (19:24:18) Current Players: Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, a vaporeon, tyrant.
    (19:24:18) Time: Night 3
    (19:24:18) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:24:18) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:24:22) Chilin: im confused
    (19:24:23) Whataboutthis: so, no 8 there
    (19:24:26) Cheezeburgar: oh
    (19:24:29) Cheezeburgar: we were selfvoting
    (19:24:30) Cheezeburgar: my bad.
    (19:24:31) a vaporeon: ok Whataboutthis and ballom for 8
    (19:24:31) Cheezeburgar: im 1
    (19:24:34) Roy Mustang: whoever didn't vote might be 8
    (19:24:35) Ballom: im 1
    (19:24:41) Ballom: so id didnt vote
    (19:24:48) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:24:48) Times Up! :
    (19:24:48) ±Porygon: a vaporeon (4) was erased !
    (19:24:48) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:24:48) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8.
    (19:24:48) Current Players: Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, tyrant.
    (19:24:48) Time: Day 3
    (19:24:48) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:24:48) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:24:56) Chilin: ballom is bad
    (19:24:59) Cheezeburgar: mhm
    (19:25:01) Roy Mustang: 8 is op now
    (19:25:02) Arcturus: what is indeed 6
    (19:25:02) Ballom: oks ome1s framing me
    (19:25:03) Whataboutthis: we need 0...
    (19:25:05) Roy Mustang: no four
    (19:25:12) tyrant: pl visited me!!
    (19:25:14) Chilin: kill 0?
    (19:25:17) Ballom: some 1s framing me
    (19:25:18) Cheezeburgar: ballon "im 1 so i didnt selfvote"
    (19:25:18) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:25:18) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8.
    (19:25:18) Current Players: Arcturus, Ballom, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, tyrant.
    (19:25:18) Time: Day 3
    (19:25:18) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:25:18) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:25:19) Cheezeburgar: what
    (19:25:23) Roy Mustang: zero can't be distracted
    (19:25:23) ±Game: Cheezeburgar voted for Ballom!
    (19:25:23) ±Game: Chilin voted for Ballom!
    (19:25:24) ±Game: Arcturus voted for Ballom!
    (19:25:29) ±Game: Roy Mustang voted for Ballom!
    (19:25:31) ±Game: Ballom voted for tyrant!
    (19:25:32) ±Game: tyrant voted for Ballom!
    (19:25:34) Roy Mustang: so pl is useless
    (19:25:38) tyrant: wtf!!
    (19:25:39) ±Game: Lizz voted for tyrant!
    (19:25:41) tyrant: im 1
    (19:25:46) Lizz: (-1 vote)
    (19:25:48) Ballom: no u r not
    (19:25:48) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:25:48) Times Up! :
    (19:25:48) ±Porygon: Ballom (8) was erased !
    (19:25:48) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 6, 7.
    (19:25:48) Current Players: Arcturus, Cheezeburgar, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, tyrant.
    (19:25:48) Time: Night 4
    (19:25:48) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:25:48) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:25:54) Whataboutthis: told ya
    (19:25:58) Cheezeburgar: w0t
    (19:26:04) tyrant: now 0...
    (19:26:08) Chilin: inspect cheezeburgar
    (19:26:12) Whataboutthis: which is impossible to get
    (19:26:14) Cheezeburgar: hi 0
    (19:26:15) Whataboutthis: he isnpects as 1
    (19:26:18) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:26:18) Times Up! :
    (19:26:18) ±Porygon: Cheezeburgar (1) was erased !
    (19:26:18) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:26:18) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 3, 6, 7.
    (19:26:18) Current Players: Arcturus, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, tyrant.
    (19:26:18) Time: Day 4
    (19:26:18) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:26:18) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:26:41) tyrant: im the only 1!!
    (19:26:48) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:26:48) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 3, 6, 7.
    (19:26:48) Current Players: Arcturus, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, tyrant.
    (19:26:48) Time: Day 4
    (19:26:48) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:26:48) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:27:05) ±Game: Arcturus voted for Lizz!
    (19:27:06) Chilin: rand?
    (19:27:11) Roy Mustang: lizz is 7
    (19:27:12) ±Game: Lizz voted for Lizz!
    (19:27:17) Lizz: I'm 7
    (19:27:19) tyrant: counter??
    (19:27:20) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:27:20) Times Up! :
    (19:27:20) No one was voted off! :
    (19:27:20) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:27:20) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 3, 6, 7.
    (19:27:20) Current Players: Arcturus, Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, tyrant.
    (19:27:20) Time: Night 5
    (19:27:20) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:27:20) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:27:22) Whataboutthis: err guys, does +1 vote mean i get a vote of 1
    (19:27:25) Lizz: that should prove it
    (19:27:26) Roy Mustang: confirmed now
    (19:27:28) Arcturus: oh. nevermind. Im 3. I forgot the -1
    (19:27:30) Whataboutthis: or a vote of 2?
    (19:27:50) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:27:50) Times Up! :
    (19:27:50) ±Porygon: Arcturus (3) was erased !
    (19:27:50) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:27:50) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 6, 7.
    (19:27:50) Current Players: Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, tyrant.
    (19:27:50) Time: Day 5
    (19:27:50) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:27:50) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:28:10) Chilin: hmm roy is good
    (19:28:17) Whataboutthis: i'm 6
    (19:28:18) tyrant: im good too
    (19:28:20) Whataboutthis: lizz is 7
    (19:28:20) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:28:20) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 6, 7.
    (19:28:20) Current Players: Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis, tyrant.
    (19:28:20) Time: Day 5
    (19:28:20) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:28:20) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:28:22) Whataboutthis: so... tyrant?
    (19:28:27) tyrant: im 1
    (19:28:28) ±Game: Chilin voted for tyrant!
    (19:28:32) Roy Mustang: im 1
    (19:28:34) Chilin: im 2 btw
    (19:28:37) ±Game: Whataboutthis voted for tyrant!
    (19:28:40) ±Game: Roy Mustang voted for tyrant!
    (19:28:43) ±Game: tyrant voted for Roy Mustang!
    (19:28:47) ±Game: Lizz voted for Roy Mustang!
    (19:28:47) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:28:47) Times Up! :
    (19:28:47) ±Porygon: tyrant (1) was erased !
    (19:28:47) Current Roles: 0, 2, 6, 7.
    (19:28:47) Current Players: Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang, Whataboutthis.
    (19:28:47) Time: Night 6
    (19:28:47) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:28:47) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:28:51) Whataboutthis: lolol
    (19:28:55) Chilin: ?
    (19:28:58) Whataboutthis: kill me
    (19:29:03) Whataboutthis: so i don't have to get confused tomorrow
    (19:29:05) Whataboutthis: during voting
    (19:29:17) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:29:17) Times Up! :
    (19:29:17) ±Porygon: Whataboutthis (6) was erased !
    (19:29:17) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:29:17) Current Roles: 0, 2, 7.
    (19:29:17) Current Players: Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang.
    (19:29:17) Time: Day 6
    (19:29:17) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (19:29:17) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:29:24) Lizz: Roy for 0
    (19:29:35) Roy Mustang: im cleaned
    (19:29:35) Chilin: roy
    (19:29:42) Chilin: lagtest
    (19:29:43) Roy Mustang: unless chillin is bad
    (19:29:49) Roy Mustang: zero inspects
    (19:29:50) Chilin: hmm im 2
    (19:29:59) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:29:59) Current Roles: 0, 2, 7.
    (19:29:59) Current Players: Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang.
    (19:29:59) Time: Day 6
    (19:29:59) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:29:59) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:30:00) Chilin: bot says you 2 are 1
    (19:30:02) Roy Mustang: im 2
    (19:30:09) Roy Mustang: inspected you as 1
    (19:30:19) Chilin: just kill me
    (19:30:28) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:30:29) Times Up! :
    (19:30:29) No one was voted off! :
    (19:30:29) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:30:29) Current Roles: 0, 2, 7.
    (19:30:29) Current Players: Chilin, Lizz, Roy Mustang.
    (19:30:29) Time: Night 7
    (19:30:29) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:30:29) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:30:31) Lizz: ...
    (19:30:33) Lizz: why
    (19:30:35) Lizz: no
    (19:30:37) Lizz: votes
    (19:30:53) Roy Mustang: zerominspects as 1 lol
    (19:30:59) ************************************************** *************************************
    (19:30:59) Times Up! :
    (19:30:59) ±Porygon: Chilin (2) was erased !
    (19:30:59) Zero (Roy Mustang) stands last. None survived.
    (19:30:59) ±Game: The Good Numbers (Lizz) lose!


    Huge thanks to Icekirby for coding the beginning of theme, resolving the problem of semi-inspectors and so giving me strenght by cheer up to make the whole theme.

    PS : By 6 modulation , 0=6 and 3=9.
    ... hue hue. Some will understand.




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    Original post :

    I'm Opale2/Nona/9 on PO.

    I had an idea of a theme which would use the usual roles but in a different logic. Here goes the roles & explanation.

    Roles
    8 and 9, never used , decided to erase the others numbers and crash the decimal system. (Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Whatever.)

    Uni (1) : Villy. Sided with the good numbers. Vote of +1.
    Di (2) : "Semi-inspector" In fact, he can /inspect if the number is odd or even. That means, if the number belongs to 2,4,6,8 or 1,3,5,7,9.
    Sided with the good numbers. Vote of +1 (Edit 3)
    Tri (3) : Other "Semi-inspector". /inpect results in knowing the result of divide by 3. (3,6,9)/(1,4,7)/(2,5,8). Sided with the good numbers. Vote of +1 (Edit 3)
    Tetra (4) : Voteshielder. No special command. Vote of -4 in order to negate 8's. Sided with the good numbers.
    Penta (5) : Bodyguard. Can /protect every night but not itself. Vote of +1. Sided with the good numbers.
    Hexa (6) : Distractor. Can /distract every night. Vote of +1. Sided with the good numbers. Distracting one person doesn't spread to the whole side.
    Hepta (7) : Seems similar to the one, graphically, and since he responds as 1 to both 2 and 3 analysis. He got a -1 vote. Sided with the good numbers.

    Octa (8) : Got a +4 vote. No special commands. Sided with bad numbers.
    Nona (9) : Got a nightkill. +1 vote. Sided with the bad numbers.

    Zero (0) : The weird role. Knows Nonas since the first turn. Answers as 1 to any analyse. Can (Edit 3) /kill and /inspect every night with 0 priority. Immune to distract, and ignore protections. But only got a +0,1 vote (Edit 3) and sided with none, which make him really hard to win. Must try to tie the both part so that the last turn results in a Zero vs a good number vs a bad number.

    Uni : You're an usual number. You got no special power and can only vote with a power of ... one. Use it to remove bad numbers in the day ! You're sided with the good numbers.

    Di : As a 2, you can /inspect who is prime with you, meaning that you can know who is even or odd. Work together with the Tri to figure out who is what. But can you find out who is he by yourself ? Penta can only protect one person ... (0=even ; 1=odd) You got +1 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.

    Tri: As a 3, similarly to the 3, you can /inspect the number's remains of division by 3. (4-> 1 ; 5-> 2 ; 6-> 0 ; 7-> 1). Working together with the Di you can clealy determine each number except 7/1/0. But will you figure out who is he by yourself ? Penta can only protect one person ... You got +1 vote and are sided with the good numbers.

    Tetra : As its half , you're the only one able to counter Octa's plans ! He got an +4 vote nuke, you got an -4 nuke. You got no other special commands. You're sided with the good numbers.

    Penta : You're 5, and can shield anyone, even yourself. But choose wisely who to protect, di and tri are key to winning. If someone still died under your protection, he got erased by Zero. You got a +1 vote and are sided with the good numbers.

    Hexa : You're 6 and developped /distract abilities. In order to use your deductions wisely without revealing yourself, you got a +2 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.

    Septa : You're 7. As your graphical view, you're not so different of the one. You just got a -1 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.

    Octa : You're 8 and got a +4 vote nuke to erase those pityful numbers from the actuel system. Care about Tetra, your damn half can counter your vote. Sided with the bad numbers.

    Nona : As 9, you decided that inferior numbers were no longer interesting and you and Octa shall rules in place of 0, 1 and his friends. You got a nightkill, and a +1 vote. Sided with the bad numbers.

    Zero : You are Zero and work alone in order to erase every single number from the decimal way. You got a an inspect, and first priority night kill which isn't blocked by protection, and can't be distracted. You know Nonas since the first turn. You show up as one to every analyse. Otherwise, due to your low number, you got only 0,1 vote. Will you use all these powers wisely ? Dying at last turn would be sad... You're sided with none except yourself.

    Spawnlist :
    5 : Uni, Uni, Di, Tetra, Nona
    6 : Zero, Uni, Uni, Di, Tetra, Nona
    7 : Zero, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Octa, Nona
    8 : Zero, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Septa, Octa, Nona
    9 : Zero, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Penta, Septa, Octa, Nona
    10 : Zero, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Penta, Hexa, Septa, Octa, Nona
    11 : Zero, Uni, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Penta, Hexa, Septa, Octa, Nona
    12 : Zero, Uni, Uni, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Penta, Hexa, Septa, Octa, Nona
    13 : Zero, Uni, Uni, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Penta, Hexa, Septa, Octa, Nona, Nona
    14 : Zero, Uni, Uni, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Penta, Hexa, Septa, Septa, Octa, Nona, Nona
    15 : Zero, Uni, Uni, Uni, Di, Tri, Tetra, Tetra, Penta, Hexa, Septa, Octa, Octa, Nona, Nona

    Explanations :

    [When i speak about division, it's Euclide division.]
    This game is based on the cooperation between 2 and 3, and the role of 0. If they could connect instantly, this would be a perfect stomp for the good side. Working together lead them to know the result of division per 6.
    So, 4 , 5 , 6 can be only 4, 5 , 6. Getting 1 means it's either 0, 1 or 7. (Well 0 is special.) 2 is 2 or 8 , but since one is 2 , it's 8 , the same goes for 9.
    When both are connected, they can truly analyze everybody. But can they ? They're kind of semi inspectors, with only one bodyguard, 5, meaning that they can't both claim. People must then figure by themselves the role of others. For that the main way would be vote deductions. 0 votes +0,2 ; uni ; tetra; penta ; nona votes +1, di and tri +1,1 , hexa +2 , tetra -4, hepta -1, octa +4. Weird votes ending will sure happen really often, this is yours to try to deduct things of. 0,1 voteThe basis of the game is that claiming should be done ... wisely.
    Why ? Let's focus on Zero role. He nearly rules the (nonary !) game. In order to win zero must prevent any side from stomping the others. Meaning that if the good side claims too much and this allows them to destroy the baddies, zero will sure stop that, with a unstoppable nightkill. Then the logic is to win with the +0,2 vote. This can only be achieved on a 3 man ending with a wrong vote, then you kill the last standing ennemy. That obviously can't be achieved if you're alone against the last side. It's the hardest role, ruling the game. By the way, since he doesn't kill distractors but ignore them, he really seems like an Uni on any view other than vote.

    So for quick explanations :

    • The good numbers side must find out who is who by deducting from what they know. If they're able to connect Di and Tri they'll get a huge advantage. Penta will obviously help, and Tetra must, at all cost, prevent the PRs from getting nuked by Octa's +4 vote. Septa may help too. If Nona is important to kill, Octa is even more as he might become unstoppable if Zero is killed.

    • The bad side is composed of two member types : "daykillers" [Octa] and nightkillers [Nona] Eliminate the inspectors is the main objective, but the others PM could be really annoying. Deducting and killing 4 may make 8 an unstoppable killer lately. They shall care about Zero too, which is manipulating them. He'll probably help early on, but should be killed in the middle of the game.

    •*Since zero knows nonas, his goal is to manipulate the bad side. The hard part of this role is to reach the final turn without any part to have win over the other. Zero can't win in an 1v1 vote. You got the rest upper.

    Corrected code : 3 replaced by 5 in 7 players game (otherwise 3 knows 9 easily), 0 doesn't know 9.
    Code (text):
    1.  
    2. {
    3.     "name": "Nonary",
    4.     "author": [
    5.     "Nona","Opale2"
    6.     ],
    7.     "summary": "You have chosen to participate to the Nonary game. It's a game ... where you will put your existence in the line. 10 numbers, up to 9, fighting for their existence in the decimal system. Octa, Nona, being really pissed of never getting used in Porygon's calculations, decided that the inferior numbers were inferiors (...), and they had to be erased. On the top of that, Zero, as a virus, tries to eradicate every single number but him in order to control Porygon, with strong shadow attacks but very slight power at day ... Will the good numbers be able to protect themselves against higher numbers' madness, and keep Porygon able to work properly ?",
    8.     "sides": [
    9.         {
    10.             "side": "village",
    11.             "translation": "Good Numbers"
    12.             "winmsg": "The good numbers (~Players~) survived to the higher numbers' madness ! Calculation abilities have been protected and life can continue. Good job ! Unlocked : True ending."
    13.         },
    14.         {
    15.             "side": "mafia",
    16.             "translation": "Bad Numbers"
    17.             "winmsg": "The bad numbers (~Players~) crashed everything and Porygon is now unable to do anything. Unlocked : Bad ending."
    18.         },
    19.         {
    20.             "side": "werewolf",
    21.             "translation": "Zero"
    22.             "winmsg": "Zero (~Players~) stands last. None survived."
    23.         }
    24.     ],
    25.     "roles": [
    26.         {
    27.             "role": "1",
    28.             "translation": "1",
    29.             "side": "village",
    30.             "help": "You're an usual number. You got no special power and can only vote with a power of ... one. Use it to remove bad numbers in the day ! You're sided with the good numbers.",
    31.             "actions": {
    32.                 "inspect": {
    33.                     "revealAs": "1"
    34.                 },
    35.                 "stalk": {
    36.                     "mode": "ignore",
    37.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 1!!"
    38.                 }
    39.             }
    40.         },
    41.         {
    42.             "role": "2",
    43.             "translation": "2",
    44.             "side": "village",
    45.             "help": "As a 2, you can /inspect who is prime with you, meaning that you can know who is even or odd. Work together with the Tri to figure out who is what. But can you find out who is he by yourself ? Penta can only protect one person ... (0=even ; 1=odd) You got +1 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.",
    46.             "actions": {
    47.                 "night": {
    48.                     "analyze": {
    49.                         "command": "inspect",
    50.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    51.                         "common": "Self",
    52.                         "priority": 6
    53.                     }
    54.                 },
    55.                 "vote": 1,
    56.                 "inspect": {
    57.                     "revealAs": "0"
    58.                 },
    59.                 "stalk": {
    60.                     "mode": "ignore",
    61.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 2!!"
    62.                 }
    63.             }
    64.         },
    65.         {
    66.             "role": "3",
    67.             "translation": "3",
    68.             "side": "village",
    69.             "help": "As a 3, similarly to the 3, you can /inspect the number's remains of division by 3. (4-> 1 ; 5-> 2 ; 6-> 0 ; 7-> 1). Working together with the Di you can clealy determine each number except 7/1/0. But will you figure out who is he by yourself ? Penta can only protect one person ... You got +1 vote and are sided with the good numbers.",
    70.             "actions": {
    71.                 "night": {
    72.                     "analyze": {
    73.                         "command": "stalk",
    74.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    75.                         "common": "Self",
    76.                         "priority": 7
    77.                     }
    78.                 },
    79.                 "vote": 1,
    80.                 "inspect": {
    81.                     "revealAs": "1"
    82.                 },
    83.                 "stalk": {
    84.                     "mode": "ignore",
    85.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 0!!"
    86.                 }
    87.             }
    88.         },
    89.         {
    90.             "role": "4",
    91.             "translation": "4",
    92.             "side": "village",
    93.             "help": "As its half , you're the only one able to counter Octa's plans ! He got an +4 vote nuke, you got an -4 nuke. You got no other special commands. You're sided with the good numbers.",
    94.             "actions": {
    95.                 "vote": -4,
    96.                 "inspect": {
    97.                     "revealAs": "0"
    98.                 },
    99.                 "stalk": {
    100.                     "mode": "ignore",
    101.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 1!!"
    102.                 }
    103.             }
    104.         },
    105.         {
    106.             "role": "5",
    107.             "translation": "5",
    108.             "side": "village",
    109.             "help": "You're 5, and can shield anyone, even yourself. But choose wisely who to protect, di and tri are key to winning. If someone still died under your protection, he got erased by Zero. You got a +1 vote and are sided with the good numbers.",
    110.             "actions": {
    111.                 "night": {
    112.                     "protect": {
    113.                         "target": "Any",
    114.                         "common": "Self",
    115.                         "priority": 4
    116.                     }
    117.                 },
    118.                 "inspect": {
    119.                     "revealAs": "1"
    120.                 },
    121.                 "stalk": {
    122.                     "mode": "ignore",
    123.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 2!!"
    124.                 }
    125.             }
    126.         },
    127.         {
    128.             "role": "6",
    129.             "translation": "6",
    130.             "side": "village",
    131.             "help": "You're 6 and developped /distract abilities. In order to use your deductions wisely without revealing yourself, you got a +2 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.",
    132.             "actions": {
    133.                 "night": {
    134.                     "distract": {
    135.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    136.                         "common": "Self",
    137.                         "priority": 2
    138.                         "distractmsg": "You couldn't act this night, being too busy clearing this 6 invasion."
    139.                     }
    140.                 },
    141.                 "vote": 2,
    142.                 "inspect": {
    143.                     "revealAs": "0"
    144.                 },
    145.                 "stalk": {
    146.                     "mode": "ignore",
    147.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 0!!"
    148.                 }
    149.             }
    150.         },
    151.         {
    152.             "role": "7",
    153.             "translation": "7",
    154.             "side": "village",
    155.             "help": "You're 7. As your graphical view, you're not so different of the one. You just got a -1 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.",
    156.             "actions": {
    157.                 "vote": -1,
    158.                 "inspect": {
    159.                     "revealAs": "1"
    160.                 },
    161.                 "stalk": {
    162.                     "mode": "ignore",
    163.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 1!!"
    164.                 }
    165.             }
    166.         },
    167.         {
    168.             "role": "8",
    169.             "translation": "8",
    170.             "side": "mafia",
    171.             "help": "You're 8 and got a +4 vote nuke to erase those pityful numbers from the actuel system. Care about Tetra, your damn half can counter your vote. Sided with the bad numbers.",
    172.             "actions": {
    173.                 "vote": 4,
    174.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    175.                 "inspect": {
    176.                     "revealAs": "0"
    177.                 },
    178.                 "stalk": {
    179.                     "mode": "ignore",
    180.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 2!!"
    181.                 }
    182.             }
    183.         },
    184.         {
    185.             "role": "9",
    186.             "translation": "9",
    187.             "side": "mafia",
    188.             "help": "As 9, you decided that inferior numbers were no longer interesting and you and Octa shall rules in place of 0, 1 and his friends. You got a nightkill, and a +1 vote. Sided with the bad numbers.",
    189.             "actions": {
    190.                 "night": {
    191.                     "kill": {
    192.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    193.                         "common": "Self",
    194.                         "priority": 5
    195.                         "msg": "Nona erased you from the system."
    196.                     }
    197.                 },
    198.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    199.                 "inspect": {
    200.                     "revealAs": "1"
    201.                 },
    202.                 "stalk": {
    203.                     "mode": "ignore",
    204.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 0!!"
    205.                 }
    206.             }
    207.         },
    208.         {
    209.             "role": "0",
    210.             "translation": "0",
    211.             "side": "werewolf",
    212.             "help": "You are Zero and work alone in order to erase every single number from the decimal way. You got a an inspect, and first priority night kill which isn't blocked by protection, and can't be distracted. You know Nonas since the first turn. You show up as one to every analyse. Otherwise, due to your low number, you got only 0,1 vote. Will you use all these powers wisely ? Dying at last turn would be sad... You're sided with none except yourself. ",
    213.             "actions": {
    214.                 "night": {
    215.                      "inspect": {
    216.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    217.                         "common": "Self",
    218.                         "priority": 8,
    219.                         "Sight": {
    220.                             "true": 1
    221.                         }
    222.                     },
    223.                     "kill": {
    224.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    225.                         "common": "Self",
    226.                         "priority": 3
    227.                     }
    228.                 },
    229.                 "distract": {
    230.                     "mode": "ignore",
    231.                     "msg": "The ~Distracter~ tried to stop you, but it failed!"
    232.                 },
    233.                 "vote": 0.1,
    234.                 "startup": {
    235.                     "revealRole": [
    236.                         "9"
    237.                     ]
    238.                 },
    239.                 "inspect": {
    240.                     "revealAs": "1"
    241.                 },
    242.                 "stalk": {
    243.                     "mode": "ignore",
    244.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 1!!"
    245.                 }
    246.             }
    247.         }
    248.     ],
    249.     "roles1": [
    250.         "1",
    251.         "1",
    252.         "2",
    253.         "4",
    254.         "9"
    255.     ],
    256.     "roles2": [
    257.         "0",
    258.         "1",
    259.         "1",
    260.         "2",
    261.         "4",
    262.         "9"
    263.     ],
    264.     "roles3": [
    265.         "0",
    266.         "1",
    267.         "2",
    268.         "5",
    269.         "4",
    270.         "8",
    271.         "9"
    272.     ],
    273.     "roles4": [
    274.         "0",
    275.         "1",
    276.         "2",
    277.         "3",
    278.         "4",
    279.         "7",
    280.         "8",
    281.         "9"
    282.     ],
    283.     "roles5": [
    284.         "0",
    285.         "1",
    286.         "2",
    287.         "3",
    288.         "4",
    289.         "5",
    290.         "7",
    291.         "8",
    292.         "9"
    293.     ],
    294.     "roles6": [
    295.         "0",
    296.         "1",
    297.         "2",
    298.         "3",
    299.         "4",
    300.         "5",
    301.         "6",
    302.         "7",
    303.         "8",
    304.         "9"
    305.     ],
    306.     "roles7": [
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    308.         "1",
    309.         "1",
    310.         "2",
    311.         "3",
    312.         "4",
    313.         "5",
    314.         "6",
    315.         "7",
    316.         "8",
    317.         "9"
    318.     ],
    319.     "roles8": [
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    321.         "1",
    322.         "1",
    323.         "1",
    324.         "2",
    325.         "3",
    326.         "4",
    327.         "5",
    328.         "6",
    329.         "7",
    330.         "8",
    331.         "9"
    332.     ],
    333.     "roles9": [
    334.         "0",
    335.         "1",
    336.         "1",
    337.         "1",
    338.         "2",
    339.         "3",
    340.         "4",
    341.         "5",
    342.         "6",
    343.         "7",
    344.         "8",
    345.         "9",
    346.         "9"
    347.     ],
    348.     "roles10": [
    349.         "0",
    350.         "1",
    351.         "1",
    352.         "1",
    353.         "2",
    354.         "3",
    355.         "4",
    356.         "5",
    357.         "6",
    358.         "7",
    359.         "7",
    360.         "8",
    361.         "9",
    362.         "9"
    363.     ],
    364.     "roles11": [
    365.         "0",
    366.         "1",
    367.         "1",
    368.         "1",
    369.         "2",
    370.         "3",
    371.         "4",
    372.         "4",
    373.         "5",
    374.         "6",
    375.         "7",
    376.         "8",
    377.         "8",
    378.         "9",
    379.         "9"
    380.     ]
    381.     "killmsg": "±Porygon: ~Player~ (~Role~) was erased !",
    382.     "killusermsg": "You disappeared from decimal system.",
    383.     "lynchmsg": "±Porygon: ~Player~ (~Role~) was erased !",
    384. }
    385.  

    Old code (0 knows 9, no 3 on 7 players, replaced by 5)

    Code (text):
    1.  
    2. {
    3.     "name": "Nonary",
    4.     "author": [
    5.     "Nona","Opale2"
    6.     ],
    7.     "summary": "You have chosen to participate to the Nonary game. It's a game ... where you will put your existence in the line. 10 numbers, up to 9, fighting for their existence in the decimal system. Octa, Nona, being really pissed of never getting used in Porygon's calculations, decided that the inferior numbers were inferiors (...), and they had to be erased. On the top of that, Zero, as a virus, tries to eradicate every single number but him in order to control Porygon, with strong shadow attacks but very slight power at day ... Will the good numbers be able to protect themselves against higher numbers' madness, and keep Porygon able to work properly ?",
    8.     "sides": [
    9.         {
    10.             "side": "village",
    11.             "translation": "Good Numbers"
    12.             "winmsg": "The good numbers (~Players~) survived to the higher numbers' madness ! Calculation abilities have been protected and life can continue. Good job ! Unlocked : True ending."
    13.         },
    14.         {
    15.             "side": "mafia",
    16.             "translation": "Bad Numbers"
    17.             "winmsg": "The bad numbers (~Players~) crashed everything and Porygon is now unable to do anything. Unlocked : Bad ending."
    18.         },
    19.         {
    20.             "side": "werewolf",
    21.             "translation": "Zero"
    22.             "winmsg": "Zero (~Players~) stands last. None survived."
    23.         }
    24.     ],
    25.     "roles": [
    26.         {
    27.             "role": "1",
    28.             "translation": "1",
    29.             "side": "village",
    30.             "help": "You're an usual number. You got no special power and can only vote with a power of ... one. Use it to remove bad numbers in the day ! You're sided with the good numbers.",
    31.             "actions": {
    32.                 "inspect": {
    33.                     "revealAs": "1"
    34.                 },
    35.                 "stalk": {
    36.                     "mode": "ignore",
    37.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 1!!"
    38.                 }
    39.             }
    40.         },
    41.         {
    42.             "role": "2",
    43.             "translation": "2",
    44.             "side": "village",
    45.             "help": "As a 2, you can /inspect who is prime with you, meaning that you can know who is even or odd. Work together with the Tri to figure out who is what. But can you find out who is he by yourself ? Penta can only protect one person ... (0=even ; 1=odd) You got +1 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.",
    46.             "actions": {
    47.                 "night": {
    48.                     "analyze": {
    49.                         "command": "inspect",
    50.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    51.                         "common": "Self",
    52.                         "priority": 6
    53.                     }
    54.                 },
    55.                 "vote": 1,
    56.                 "inspect": {
    57.                     "revealAs": "0"
    58.                 },
    59.                 "stalk": {
    60.                     "mode": "ignore",
    61.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 2!!"
    62.                 }
    63.             }
    64.         },
    65.         {
    66.             "role": "3",
    67.             "translation": "3",
    68.             "side": "village",
    69.             "help": "As a 3, similarly to the 3, you can /inspect the number's remains of division by 3. (4-> 1 ; 5-> 2 ; 6-> 0 ; 7-> 1). Working together with the Di you can clealy determine each number except 7/1/0. But will you figure out who is he by yourself ? Penta can only protect one person ... You got +1 vote and are sided with the good numbers.",
    70.             "actions": {
    71.                 "night": {
    72.                     "analyze": {
    73.                         "command": "stalk",
    74.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    75.                         "common": "Self",
    76.                         "priority": 7
    77.                     }
    78.                 },
    79.                 "vote": 1,
    80.                 "inspect": {
    81.                     "revealAs": "1"
    82.                 },
    83.                 "stalk": {
    84.                     "mode": "ignore",
    85.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 0!!"
    86.                 }
    87.             }
    88.         },
    89.         {
    90.             "role": "4",
    91.             "translation": "4",
    92.             "side": "village",
    93.             "help": "As its half , you're the only one able to counter Octa's plans ! He got an +4 vote nuke, you got an -4 nuke. You got no other special commands. You're sided with the good numbers.",
    94.             "actions": {
    95.                 "vote": -4,
    96.                 "inspect": {
    97.                     "revealAs": "0"
    98.                 },
    99.                 "stalk": {
    100.                     "mode": "ignore",
    101.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 1!!"
    102.                 }
    103.             }
    104.         },
    105.         {
    106.             "role": "5",
    107.             "translation": "5",
    108.             "side": "village",
    109.             "help": "You're 5, and can shield anyone, even yourself. But choose wisely who to protect, di and tri are key to winning. If someone still died under your protection, he got erased by Zero. You got a +1 vote and are sided with the good numbers.",
    110.             "actions": {
    111.                 "night": {
    112.                     "protect": {
    113.                         "target": "Any",
    114.                         "common": "Self",
    115.                         "priority": 4
    116.                     }
    117.                 },
    118.                 "inspect": {
    119.                     "revealAs": "1"
    120.                 },
    121.                 "stalk": {
    122.                     "mode": "ignore",
    123.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 2!!"
    124.                 }
    125.             }
    126.         },
    127.         {
    128.             "role": "6",
    129.             "translation": "6",
    130.             "side": "village",
    131.             "help": "You're 6 and developped /distract abilities. In order to use your deductions wisely without revealing yourself, you got a +2 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.",
    132.             "actions": {
    133.                 "night": {
    134.                     "distract": {
    135.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    136.                         "common": "Self",
    137.                         "priority": 2
    138.                         "distractmsg": "You couldn't act this night, being too busy clearing this 6 invasion."
    139.                     }
    140.                 },
    141.                 "vote": 2,
    142.                 "inspect": {
    143.                     "revealAs": "0"
    144.                 },
    145.                 "stalk": {
    146.                     "mode": "ignore",
    147.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 0!!"
    148.                 }
    149.             }
    150.         },
    151.         {
    152.             "role": "7",
    153.             "translation": "7",
    154.             "side": "village",
    155.             "help": "You're 7. As your graphical view, you're not so different of the one. You just got a -1 vote. You're sided with the good numbers.",
    156.             "actions": {
    157.                 "vote": -1,
    158.                 "inspect": {
    159.                     "revealAs": "1"
    160.                 },
    161.                 "stalk": {
    162.                     "mode": "ignore",
    163.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 1!!"
    164.                 }
    165.             }
    166.         },
    167.         {
    168.             "role": "8",
    169.             "translation": "8",
    170.             "side": "mafia",
    171.             "help": "You're 8 and got a +4 vote nuke to erase those pityful numbers from the actuel system. Care about Tetra, your damn half can counter your vote. Sided with the bad numbers.",
    172.             "actions": {
    173.                 "vote": 4,
    174.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    175.                 "inspect": {
    176.                     "revealAs": "0"
    177.                 },
    178.                 "stalk": {
    179.                     "mode": "ignore",
    180.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 2!!"
    181.                 }
    182.             }
    183.         },
    184.         {
    185.             "role": "9",
    186.             "translation": "9",
    187.             "side": "mafia",
    188.             "help": "As 9, you decided that inferior numbers were no longer interesting and you and Octa shall rules in place of 0, 1 and his friends. You got a nightkill, and a +1 vote. Sided with the bad numbers.",
    189.             "actions": {
    190.                 "night": {
    191.                     "kill": {
    192.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    193.                         "common": "Self",
    194.                         "priority": 5
    195.                         "msg": "Nona erased you from the system."
    196.                     }
    197.                 },
    198.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    199.                 "inspect": {
    200.                     "revealAs": "1"
    201.                 },
    202.                 "stalk": {
    203.                     "mode": "ignore",
    204.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 0!!"
    205.                 }
    206.             }
    207.         },
    208.         {
    209.             "role": "0",
    210.             "translation": "0",
    211.             "side": "werewolf",
    212.             "help": "You are Zero and work alone in order to erase every single number from the decimal way. You got a an inspect, and first priority night kill which isn't blocked by protection, and can't be distracted. You know Nonas since the first turn. You show up as one to every analyse. Otherwise, due to your low number, you got only 0,1 vote. Will you use all these powers wisely ? Dying at last turn would be sad... You're sided with none except yourself. ",
    213.             "actions": {
    214.                 "night": {
    215.                      "inspect": {
    216.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    217.                         "common": "Self",
    218.                         "priority": 8,
    219.                         "Sight": {
    220.                             "true": 1
    221.                         }
    222.                     },
    223.                     "kill": {
    224.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    225.                         "common": "Self",
    226.                         "priority": 3
    227.                     }
    228.                 },
    229.                 "distract": {
    230.                     "mode": "ignore",
    231.                     "msg": "The ~Distracter~ tried to stop you, but it failed!"
    232.                 },
    233.                 "vote": 0.1,
    234.                 "startup": {
    235.                     "revealRole": [
    236.                         "9"
    237.                     ]
    238.                 },
    239.                 "inspect": {
    240.                     "revealAs": "1"
    241.                 },
    242.                 "stalk": {
    243.                     "mode": "ignore",
    244.                     "msg": "±Game: ~Self~ is the 1!!"
    245.                 }
    246.             }
    247.         }
    248.     ],
    249.     "roles1": [
    250.         "1",
    251.         "1",
    252.         "2",
    253.         "4",
    254.         "9"
    255.     ],
    256.     "roles2": [
    257.         "0",
    258.         "1",
    259.         "1",
    260.         "2",
    261.         "4",
    262.         "9"
    263.     ],
    264.     "roles3": [
    265.         "0",
    266.         "1",
    267.         "2",
    268.         "3",
    269.         "4",
    270.         "8",
    271.         "9"
    272.     ],
    273.     "roles4": [
    274.         "0",
    275.         "1",
    276.         "2",
    277.         "3",
    278.         "4",
    279.         "7",
    280.         "8",
    281.         "9"
    282.     ],
    283.     "roles5": [
    284.         "0",
    285.         "1",
    286.         "2",
    287.         "3",
    288.         "4",
    289.         "5",
    290.         "7",
    291.         "8",
    292.         "9"
    293.     ],
    294.     "roles6": [
    295.         "0",
    296.         "1",
    297.         "2",
    298.         "3",
    299.         "4",
    300.         "5",
    301.         "6",
    302.         "7",
    303.         "8",
    304.         "9"
    305.     ],
    306.     "roles7": [
    307.         "0",
    308.         "1",
    309.         "1",
    310.         "2",
    311.         "3",
    312.         "4",
    313.         "5",
    314.         "6",
    315.         "7",
    316.         "8",
    317.         "9"
    318.     ],
    319.     "roles8": [
    320.         "0",
    321.         "1",
    322.         "1",
    323.         "1",
    324.         "2",
    325.         "3",
    326.         "4",
    327.         "5",
    328.         "6",
    329.         "7",
    330.         "8",
    331.         "9"
    332.     ],
    333.     "roles9": [
    334.         "0",
    335.         "1",
    336.         "1",
    337.         "1",
    338.         "2",
    339.         "3",
    340.         "4",
    341.         "5",
    342.         "6",
    343.         "7",
    344.         "8",
    345.         "9",
    346.         "9"
    347.     ],
    348.     "roles10": [
    349.         "0",
    350.         "1",
    351.         "1",
    352.         "1",
    353.         "2",
    354.         "3",
    355.         "4",
    356.         "5",
    357.         "6",
    358.         "7",
    359.         "7",
    360.         "8",
    361.         "9",
    362.         "9"
    363.     ],
    364.     "roles11": [
    365.         "0",
    366.         "1",
    367.         "1",
    368.         "1",
    369.         "2",
    370.         "3",
    371.         "4",
    372.         "4",
    373.         "5",
    374.         "6",
    375.         "7",
    376.         "8",
    377.         "8",
    378.         "9",
    379.         "9"
    380.     ]
    381.     "killmsg": "±Porygon: ~Player~ (~Role~) was erased !",
    382.     "killusermsg": "You disappeared from decimal system.",
    383.     "lynchmsg": "±Porygon: ~Player~ (~Role~) was erased !",
    384. }
    385.  
    Less ugly pastebin : http://pastebin.com/U70Khuqr
    Old : Huge thanks to IceKirby for investigating semi-inspectors possibility (and resolving it ^^), as well as coding most of it.
    Edit n°7
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2013
  2. Hey Day

    Hey Day Argumentum ad ignorantium

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    Before I review this closely (which I'm about to do), what you want to do is transfer that code to a pastebin.

    It should work better.
     
  3. N the Great

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    Hm... Good, the concept is Good, i think the votes for Good side is bit more than the bad guys, some place... I got stuck. lol, I think I want to you test this code and it should work, is 4 op?
     
  4. Opale

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    Four is drawn to be a primary target of the bad side in early game. He only got a voteshield which is broken by 8, so i don't think he's that overpowered.
    Especially when you consider it's risky to wildly claim.
    I'm gonna look on pastebin code. Don't know how to do for now, i'll seek for it.

    EDIT : Pastebin successfully implemented.
     
  5. Opale

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    Pastebin updated.
     
  6. Roild

    Roild Member

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    This has little chatter and I might see why. It's a little overwhelming as a theme. The explanation is tough in itself. I don't know if the theme will work as you plan, but I want to test [1] to see how it goes. 15 players max is relatively small for a theme. I'm curious to see how it will work.
     
  7. Opale

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    Oh, i just didn't complete the spawnlist but it shouldn't have such a player maximum, up to 25 is possible i guess.

    EDIT : You're two asking for a test , but how do we do it ? Is there a fixed date ? A special channel ? Etc.

    EDIT 2 : As a buff for the bad side, i think 6 should only be able to distract one person. I mean, when she distract 1 nona, they whole team isn't.
     
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  8. Roild

    Roild Member

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    I am two? I don't see the first.... I'll fix if so, but who's the first?

    Testing is done on the main server for three days after you get three tests.
     
  9. Opale

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  10. Roild

    Roild Member

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    Yeah... That doesn't count. :x. But he raised your spirits!
     
  11. Opale

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    Didn't think tests requests were that official.
     
  12. citro

    citro CRYING LIGHTNING

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    We discussed this in depth but HD forgot to post here or something. Sorry about that.

    Anyway I'm happy to give you a test [2].

    I'll post my thoughts later.
     
  13. Roild

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    I'd like to see what HD said.
     
  14. Opale

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    Can't wait to know as well D: I'd enjoy seeing tested ! But the rules and strategy are a bit weird so i wonder what will a test show.
    I wonder if zero could win a single game in fact ...
     
  15. Hey Day

    Hey Day Argumentum ad ignorantium

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    Oh yeah, I forgot to post. XD

    Yes, citro and I were discussing it.

    5 players:

    Setup: 1, 1, 2, 4, 9

    2's only use is to confirm 4 as being town. 9 has nothing to counteract 4's vote control and will easily fall to it.

    6 players: (Not sure why this isn't on the same roleslist as the previous. It's a minor issue though and you can decide if it's worth fixing.)

    Setup: 0, 1, 1, 2, 4, 9

    0 knowing who 9 is makes being 9 a basically unwinnable situation, since 0 has a lot more power. 0's low voting power really doesn't balance him, considering 4 has near complete control over the vote anyway. I'd also recommend getting rid of the investigates as 1 thing, since it seems silly to have a game about numbers where there's a number that can screw up results. tl;dr? Nerf 0 and get rid of his knowledge of who 9 is.

    7 players:

    Setup: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9

    So we ditch a 1 for 3 and 8. Again, 0 having investigation "immunity" as I call it defeats the purpose of this concept of detecting multiples of a certain number.

    Anyway, 3 can detect people in pools where he gets the same result for each:

    0, 1, 4
    2, 8
    9

    2 detects players like so:

    0, 1, 3, 9
    4, 8

    If you combine these, we now have the following pools:

    0, 1
    4
    8
    9

    Which means, yet again, you can confirm 4 as Town and confirm both non-0 scum without a problem. This is complicated even more by 0 having reveal on 9, which I seriously urge you to remove before we move forward with the testing phase (which I'm totally fine with adding my test approval after you fix this.) 8 being a counter for 4 is kinda meh, and also means scum really lack a controlling factor in the vote.

    I know I haven't gotten farther than this but this kind of analysis takes a while. I might do more analyses, but if you look at the things I said and try to fix the issues so far to the best of your ability things will work out fine! ^_^
     
  16. Opale

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    I agree with you on those points. Every number needs the others to win , it starts making sense when with 8 players at least.
    You can't implement 8 if 4 isn't in the game. If you can't do that, you can't just leave one 9 with 0 knowing him.
    As i explained it before, combining 2 and 3 votes make you able to know every single role in the game but 0/1/7 , because it transforms into a modulo 6 analysis , and the ties become 0/1/7 , 2/8 , but you're 2 , 3/9 , but you're 3.
    Removing 9 knowledge for 0 remove a bit of trickyness though.
    In fact i see 4 options :
    - 0 doesn't know 9. That's simple.
    - 9 knows 0 from the start as well. Since 0 can't be nightkilled, he need to make the other players vote out 0 before 0 decides he doesn't need 9 anymore - if he does it early he got high chances of losing. But 9 can't abuse 8 vote, because it could reveal 8.
    - 0 isn't in the game until there's 10 players at least, or even slighly more so that there is more than 2 baddies only.
    - For the small games, there is no bad side :•) There is just zero manipulating the world. *Kira laugh*

    I think we should test with the first option , removed 9 knowledge. After all, a test is supposed to help fixing the problems by seeing it on live.

    I actually done the analysis myself on who 2 and 3 analyze early on, and tried to pick the most balanced. If i want to put an inspector in the 5 player games, it can't be 3 : 9 would appear as the only 3 [3].
    -> I don't understand why did i put 3 in the 7 players game btw. It should rather be 7.

    Btw, i didn't understand what did you want to mean with the 6 players spawn ? This is the same list on pastebin, the code or the written spawnlist, i don't remember any recent change.

    EDIT : I'm seeking for* a new player list spawn with the others options.
    I also thought of something, implementing poison on 7 or 8 (and so changing the spawn's balance). Since the game is designed to be a pure teamwork with the one you identified as goods, and strategies following a certain death path but still allowing your team the win, a poison which make you tend to say everything you analysed before you die might be interesting. But right now i like role repartition so i'm not sure where to implement it. Just an idea.

    Ex : • Nona isn't here until 10 players.
    5 : 1, 1 , 2 , 4 , 9
    6 : 1, 1, 2, 4, 7, 9
    7 : 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9
    8 : 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9
    9 : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    10 : All.

    The only problem here is that 5 and 6 without 0 to counter is an autolose for bad side.
    8 can't do shit early, and if 6 finds 9, he'll just keep on spamming it and will reveal it. Since there is 5 and no 0, 3 can claim, and this make the game rather horrible for the bad side as well. That's why 0's early help to the bad side is essential, and so baddies and zero must work together early on, and choose when to betray the other. To me the option of 9 knowing 0 as well make it even complicated, far more than 0 not knowing 9 but it brings a lot of fun and really put the logic of betrayal in.
     
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  17. Opale

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  18. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Oh I forgot to request testing to see the mechanics in action and if it would truly work in our set up... Test [3]

    And I've loaded onto the server so it can be tested. Since it is a non-peak theme, it will get a little more time in testing (or at least it should IMO) because chances are limited to test.


    EDIT: Your JSON is invalid.
    EDIT2: There were only about 7 comma errors, so I fixed them for you. Your fixed theme resides at http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HuQsgX8p but will expire after 30 days. Just copy it over to your pastebin when you get on. I added a link to this thread on the summary to let people read up on different roles and strategies maybe, so a testing period can go smoother.

    When you come on and rehost the theme on your pastebin, use " /update Nonary:: Pastebinlink " without the quotes and replace "pastebinlink" with the actual link. Use the "RAW" file or it will not work correctly.

    EDIT3: Your first log!
    (12:53:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:53:35) ±Game: Fuzzy started a game with theme Nonary!
    (12:53:35) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
    (12:53:35) ***************************************************************************************

    (12:53:35) ±Game: You have chosen to participate to the Nonary game. It's a game ... where you will put your existence in the line. 10 numbers, up to 9, fighting for their existence in the decimal system. Octa, Nona, being really pissed of never getting used in Porygon's calculations, decided that the inferior numbers were inferiors (...), and they had to be erased. On the top of that, Zero, as a virus, tries to eradicate every single number but him in order to control Porygon, with strong shadow attacks but very slight power at day ... Will the good numbers be able to protect themselves against higher numbers' madness, and keep Porygon able to work properly ? Strategy and how to play located on the forum: http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?19429-Nonary-(Numbers)
    (12:53:35) ±Game: Fuzzy joined the game!
    (12:53:37) Ascarotte: unless you're a not-PMing bg
    (12:53:37) May in Green: Do not lie
    (12:53:37) ±Game: May in Green joined the game!
    (12:53:38) ±Game: agea joined the game!
    (12:53:38) ±Game: BlackOni joined the game!
    (12:53:41) ±Game: Ascarotte joined the game!
    (12:53:42) ±Game: Roild joined the game!
    (12:53:43) ±Game: xxx trainer xxx joined the game!
    (12:53:43) Roild: Hm
    (12:53:44) ±Game: Anallia joined the game!
    (12:53:47) ±Game: IceGhost joined the game!
    (12:53:47) ±Game: obey to kyubey joined the game!
    (12:53:48) Fuzzy: it has 3 tests in review
    (12:53:48) Ascarotte: oh this is released?
    (12:53:53) Fuzzy: so its testing
    (12:53:59) Ascarotte: right
    (12:54:02) *** May in Green wants to be Porygon

    (12:54:04) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (12:54:05) Fuzzy: ill save a log for the author, since they arent on right now
    (12:54:12) Anallia: roles!
    (12:54:14) Anallia: oops
    (12:54:14) Roild: You added.
    (12:54:15) Fuzzy: dont ask me how to play though...
    (12:54:17) Roild: Okay
    (12:54:22) Roild:Fuzzy
    (12:54:25) Roild: How do I play?
    (12:54:26) Ascarotte: PM me all your roles plz
    (12:54:30) Fuzzy: ill cut you Roild
    (12:54:34) Roild: Do I just /suicide?
    (12:54:34) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:54:34) Times Up! :
    (12:54:34) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (12:54:34) ±Game: You are a 5!
    (12:54:34) ±Game: You're 5, and can shield anyone, even yourself. But choose wisely who to protect, di and tri are key to winning. If someone still died under your protection, he got erased by Zero. You got a +1 vote and are sided with the good numbers.
    (12:54:34) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
    (12:54:34) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, BlackOni, Fuzzy, IceGhost, May in Green, Roild, agea, obey to kyubey, xxx trainer xxx.
    (12:54:34) Current Team: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
    (12:54:34) Time: Night 1
    (12:54:34) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (12:54:34) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:54:45) Fuzzy: remember you can use /roles :~~~
    (12:54:49) Fuzzy: where ~~~ is the role
    (12:54:51) Fuzzy: to find more
    (12:54:55) xxx trainer xxx: i am 1
    (12:55:00) ±Game: You have chosen to protect Roild!
    (12:55:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:55:08) Times Up! :
    (12:55:08) You disappeared from decimal system.
    (12:55:08) ±Porygon: Fuzzy (5) was erased !
    (12:55:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:55:08) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9.
    (12:55:08) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, BlackOni, IceGhost, May in Green, Roild, agea, obey to kyubey, xxx trainer xxx.
    (12:55:08) Time: Day 1
    (12:55:08) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (12:55:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:55:09) May in Green: This is odd....
    (12:55:12) agea: Okay
    (12:55:14) BlackOni: there goes 5
    (12:55:15) Fuzzy: bs
    (12:55:22) agea: We need to get 8,9?
    (12:55:26) BlackOni: and 0
    (12:55:27) Roild: Uh
    (12:55:28) agea: And 0
    (12:55:29) Ascarotte: that's the bg, right
    (12:55:30) agea: Hmm
    (12:55:31) xxx trainer xxx: 0 and 5 also
    (12:55:33) May in Green: Im 2 but can't inspect...
    (12:55:36) BlackOni: 5 is good
    (12:55:38) agea: 5 is BG
    (12:55:39) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:55:39) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9.
    (12:55:39) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, BlackOni, IceGhost, May in Green, Roild, agea, obey to kyubey, xxx trainer xxx.
    (12:55:39) Time: Day 1
    (12:55:39) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (12:55:39) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:55:40) Anallia: 5 good
    (12:55:44) RohanTheReal left the channel.
    (12:55:46) ±Dratini: koentjeee was muted by Flannery for 4 hours! [Reason: Rule 5] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (12:55:49) May in Green: there is a mistake in thi
    (12:55:49) xxx trainer xxx: theres no 5
    (12:55:50) May in Green: s
    (12:55:52) Roild: OKay
    (12:55:53) BlackOni: 5 died
    (12:55:55) Roild: So what do we do.
    (12:55:56) agea: 5 is dead.
    (12:55:59) May in Green: who is madmin
    (12:56:04) May in Green: 2 cant inspect
    (12:56:09) ±Game: Roild voted for IceGhost!
    (12:56:11) BlackOni: madmin?
    (12:56:12) Ascarotte: :o
    (12:56:14) ±Game: IceGhost voted for Roild!
    (12:56:17) ±Game: May in Green voted for IceGhost!
    (12:56:18) BlackOni: og
    (12:56:20) May in Green: Mafia admin
    (12:56:20) BlackOni: oh*
    (12:56:21) Roild: Wut
    (12:56:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:56:28) Times Up! :
    (12:56:28) ±Porygon: IceGhost (3) was erased !
    (12:56:28) Current Roles: 0, 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9.
    (12:56:28) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, BlackOni, May in Green, Roild, agea, obey to kyubey, xxx trainer xxx.
    (12:56:28) Time: Night 2
    (12:56:28) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (12:56:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:56:30) Roild: You analyze
    (12:56:31) Anallia: lolz
    (12:56:32) BlackOni: fuck
    (12:56:33) xxx trainer xxx: nooooooooo
    (12:56:35) Roild: Did you try "/analyze"?
    (12:56:44) BlackOni: ^
    (12:56:47) May in Green: that works :)
    (12:56:50) Roild: >:P
    (12:56:53) xxx trainer xxx: hence u should not vote day 1
    (12:56:58) *** May in Green is gonna die :(
    (12:56:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:56:58) Times Up! :
    (12:56:58) ±Porygon: agea (6) was erased !
    (12:56:58) ±Porygon: May in Green (2) was erased !
    (12:56:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:56:58) Current Roles: 0, 1, 4, 7, 8, 9.
    (12:56:58) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, BlackOni, Roild, obey to kyubey, xxx trainer xxx.
    (12:56:58) Time: Day 2
    (12:56:58) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (12:56:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:57:01) Roild: We have to vote though
    (12:57:05) BlackOni: well shit
    (12:57:06) xxx trainer xxx: crap
    (12:57:08) Roild: I was pl'd
    (12:57:11) Roild: 2 kills. I am clean
    (12:57:19) xxx trainer xxx: anallia ?
    (12:57:24) BlackOni: who s pl anyway?
    (12:57:27) Anallia: hmm?
    (12:57:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:57:28) Current Roles: 0, 1, 4, 7, 8, 9.
    (12:57:28) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, BlackOni, Roild, obey to kyubey, xxx trainer xxx.
    (12:57:28) Time: Day 2
    (12:57:28) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (12:57:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:57:39) Anallia: somethin wrong?
    (12:57:40) ±Game: xxx trainer xxx voted for Anallia!
    (12:57:46) ±Game: Roild voted for xxx trainer xxx!
    (12:57:53) ±Game: Anallia voted for xxx trainer xxx!
    (12:57:54) xxx trainer xxx: i am 1
    (12:57:55) ±Game: BlackOni voted for Anallia!
    (12:58:00) Anallia: just tie
    (12:58:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:58:03) Times Up! :
    (12:58:03) ±Porygon: xxx trainer xxx (1) was erased !
    (12:58:03) Current Roles: 0, 4, 7, 8, 9.
    (12:58:03) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, BlackOni, Roild, obey to kyubey.
    (12:58:03) Time: Night 3
    (12:58:03) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (12:58:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:58:08) Anallia: or not
    (12:58:10) BlackOni: ...
    (12:58:19) ±Dratini: DatNOOBSAUCE Trainer was muted by Hannah for 1 hour! [Reason: Rule 5] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (12:58:30) Ascarotte: err
    (12:58:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:58:33) Times Up! :
    (12:58:33) ±Porygon: BlackOni (7) was erased !
    (12:58:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:58:33) Current Roles: 0, 4, 8, 9.
    (12:58:33) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, Roild, obey to kyubey.
    (12:58:33) Time: Day 3
    (12:58:33) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (12:58:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:58:40) Ascarotte: this is just weird.
    (12:58:44) Anallia: whos bad and whos good
    (12:58:47) Anallia: so confused here
    (12:58:49) Ascarotte: you're all bad
    (12:58:56) Anallia: lol
    (12:59:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:59:03) Current Roles: 0, 4, 8, 9.
    (12:59:03) Current Players: Anallia, Ascarotte, Roild, obey to kyubey.
    (12:59:03) Time: Day 3
    (12:59:03) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (12:59:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:59:07) ±Game: Roild voted for Anallia!
    (12:59:09) obey to kyubey: this gam is racist
    (12:59:10) ±Game: Anallia voted for Roild!
    (12:59:12) Anallia: haha
    (12:59:13) ±Game: obey to kyubey voted for Anallia!
    (12:59:13) Roild: Lol why
    (12:59:16) ±Game: Ascarotte voted for Anallia!
    (12:59:17) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:59:17) Times Up! :
    (12:59:17) ±Porygon: Anallia (0) was erased !
    (12:59:17) The bad numbers (Roild and obey to kyubey) crashed everything and Porygon is now unable to do anything. Unlocked : Bad ending.
    (12:59:17) ±Game: The Good Numbers (Ascarotte) lose!
    (12:59:17) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:59:25) Roild: Bad ending

    (12:59:26) ***************************************************************************************
    (12:59:26) ±Game: May in Green started a voting for next game's theme!. You have 20 seconds to vote with /votetheme!
    (12:59:26) ±Game: Choose from these themes: default, pokemon, war, ssbb, fantasy !
    (12:59:26) ***************************************************************************************

    (12:59:26) ±Game: May in Green voted for Pokemon!
    (12:59:26) Roild: lol
    (12:59:28) Anallia: wow
    (12:59:30) Fuzzy: bs
    (12:59:30) Ascarotte: o.o
    (12:59:31) obey to kyubey: because every number think t be better then any other XD
    (12:59:33) Fuzzy: Roild, i bged you n1
    (12:59:35) ±Game: IceGhost voted for default!
    (12:59:35) ±Game: Anallia voted for SSBB!
    (12:59:37) Meh: dafuq was that
    (12:59:38) Anallia: i wanna try it
    (12:59:38) agea: It's a bit confusing
    (12:59:43) obey to kyubey: gg Roild
    (12:59:43) ±Game: Meh voted for default!
    (12:59:44) Roild: Ty bby
    (12:59:45) Meh: Hi fuzzy

    (12:59:46) ±Game: Theme default won with 2 votes!
    (12:59:46) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!

    (12:59:46) ±Game: http://wiki.pokemon-online.eu/wiki/Theme:Default
    (12:59:46) ±Game: IceGhost, Meh joined the game!
    (12:59:46) Roild: @ Fuzzy
    (12:59:48) ±Game: agea joined the game!
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    (12:59:53) Roild:Fuzzy, how do I play nonary though?
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    (12:59:55) agea: What's the love for Default, lol

    (12:59:56) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

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    (12:59:57) Fuzzy: no idea
     
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  19. two sides of one coin

    two sides of one coin sick of all her shit

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    help": "As a 3, similarly to the 3, you can /inspect the number's remains of division by 3. (4-> 1 ; 5-> 2 ; 6-> 0 ; 7-> 1). Working together with the Di you can clealy determine each number except 7/1/0. But will you figure out who is he by yourself ? Penta can only protect one person ... You got +1 vote and are sided with the good numbers.",
    "actions": {
    "night": {
    "analyze": {
    "command": "stalk",
    "target": "AnyButSelf",
    "common": "Self",
    "priority": 7
    }[/HIDE]

    Says Inspect, command is Analyse.

    Also, 8 and 9 seem rather OP.
     
  20. Epikhairz

    Epikhairz Delta Stream

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    Log.
    (20:16:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:16:44) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 started a game with theme Nonary!
    (20:16:44) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
    (20:16:44) ***************************************************************************************

    A Nonary-themed mafia game is starting, Epikhairz0603!
    (20:16:44) ±Game: You have chosen to participate to the Nonary game. It's a game ... where you will put your existence in the line. 10 numbers, up to 9, fighting for their existence in the decimal system. Octa, Nona, being really pissed of never getting used in Porygon's calculations, decided that the inferior numbers were inferiors (...), and they had to be erased. On the top of that, Zero, as a virus, tries to eradicate every single number but him in order to control Porygon, with strong shadow attacks but very slight power at day ... Will the good numbers be able to protect themselves against higher numbers' madness, and keep Porygon able to work properly ? Strategy and how to play located on the forum: http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?19429-Nonary-(Numbers)
    (20:16:44) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 joined the game!
    (20:16:46) Wr4et: good job
    (20:16:46) ±Game: Master Yoda joined the game!
    (20:16:47) SuddenDeath5: awwwwwwwwwwwwwww
    (20:16:48) ±Game: gulc5886 joined the game!
    (20:16:49) Espeon: lmaoooo
    (20:16:49) ±Game: Wr4et joined the game!
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    (20:16:50) ±Game: meeps joined the game!
    (20:16:50) Karp Karpity: i tried killing IronStorm
    (20:16:52) IronStorm: gg
    (20:16:52) Karp Karpity: he evaded
    (20:16:52) SuddenDeath5: U SAID Master Yoda WAS GOOD
    (20:16:53) Epikhairz0603: Is this theme good...?
    (20:16:53) ±Game: RohanTheLucario1 joined the game!
    (20:16:54) ±Game: RedJoker25 joined the game!
    (20:16:54) Karp Karpity: ...
    (20:16:54) ±Game: SuddenDeath5 joined the game!
    (20:16:55) meeps: nonary sux
    (20:16:56) Epikhairz0603: Never played it b4
    (20:16:56) ±Game: IronStorm joined the game!
    (20:16:57) SuddenDeath5: -.-
    (20:16:58) ±Game: Seeley5 joined the game!
    (20:16:59) Master Yoda: Amazing that was, do you think not?
    (20:17:00) ±Game: Karp Karpity joined the game!
    (20:17:01) ±Game: superpotato joined the game!
    (20:17:01) ±Game: Bacebubs. joined the game!
    (20:17:02) gulc5886: both of the baddies had claimed paint, js
    (20:17:03) SuddenDeath5: yes Epikhairz0603
    (20:17:05) Karp Karpity: IronStorm what were you?
    (20:17:07) ±Game: Bacebubs. unjoined the game!
    (20:17:07) Chaos Inferno: wtf is this lol
    (20:17:07) ±Game: Chaos Inferno joined the game!
    (20:17:10) IronStorm: Powerpoint
    (20:17:10) Master Yoda: Master of deception, that I am.
    (20:17:11) Epikhairz0603: So the theme is good...ok
    (20:17:13) RohanTheLucario1: evil paint
    (20:17:13) SuddenDeath5: numbers
    (20:17:13) Karp Karpity: you evaDed

    (20:17:14) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (20:17:14) Seeley5: what kind of nerd shit is this
    (20:17:15) [Venom]MaDoG1418: woah woah woah
    (20:17:16) Karp Karpity: wtf
    (20:17:23) [Venom]MaDoG1418: i cont join if i have a clan tag?
    (20:17:25) IronStorm: Powerpoint can evade daykills
    (20:17:26) Chaos Inferno: gdi can't join
    (20:17:26) RohanTheLucario1: true dat
    (20:17:27) ±Game: Chaos Inferno unjoined the game!
    (20:17:28) Master Yoda: What theme, this is?
    (20:17:29) SuddenDeath5: baddies are OP
    (20:17:29) Karp Karpity: oh
    (20:17:35) ±Dratini: [SCV]Itachi was mysteriously kicked by Windblown!
    (20:17:39) Epikhairz0603: Isn't my theme I just wanted to see it
    (20:17:41) Seeley5: we dont take kindly to clans around here
    (20:17:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:17:44) Times Up! :
    (20:17:44) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (20:17:44) ±Game: You are a 4!
    (20:17:44) ±Game: As its half , you're the only one able to counter Octa's plans ! He got an +4 vote nuke, you got an -4 nuke. You got no other special commands. You're sided with the good numbers.
    (20:17:44) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 9.
    (20:17:44) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, Master Yoda, RedJoker25, RohanTheLucario1, Seeley5, SuddenDeath5, Thorgrim, Wr4et, gulc5886, meeps, superpotato.
    (20:17:44) Current Team: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
    (20:17:44) Time: Night 1
    (20:17:44) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:17:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:17:49) gulc5886: wtf is this
    (20:17:55) RohanTheLucario1: one here
    (20:17:55) ±Murkrow: Zeromare detained NinjaBeast for 5 games [Reason: Claming Link as a CITIZEN when there was no REAL necessity to do it, it got the REAL link killed night 1 and the village wasted a lynch on your sorry hide, and it pretty much ruined the game.]
    (20:17:55) Master Yoda: ah.
    (20:18:01) Epikhairz0603: lol wut seems weird
    (20:18:03) Master Yoda: #5 on moi.
    (20:18:04) Seeley5: took long enough
    (20:18:07) RedJoker25: numbers are fun
    (20:18:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:18:14) Times Up! :
    (20:18:14) ±Porygon: RedJoker25 (1) was erased !
    (20:18:14) ±Porygon: Seeley5 (6) was erased !
    (20:18:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:18:14) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 9.
    (20:18:14) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, Master Yoda, RohanTheLucario1, SuddenDeath5, Thorgrim, Wr4et, gulc5886, meeps, superpotato.
    (20:18:14) Current Team: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7
    (20:18:14) Time: Day 1
    (20:18:14) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:18:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:18:17) Wr4et: lol Zeromare
    (20:18:18) SuddenDeath5: wat Zeromare i got a ban for doing that 24 hours
    (20:18:21) SuddenDeath5: he dosent?
    (20:18:22) SuddenDeath5: -.-
    (20:18:23) superpotato: so odds are bad
    (20:18:26) Zeromare: no prioris
    (20:18:27) Epikhairz0603: It's 5 games
    (20:18:27) Karp Karpity: damn Zeromare
    (20:18:30) Zeromare: priors*
    (20:18:32) Wr4et: all bads reveal as 1...
    (20:18:35) Wr4et: honestly...?
    (20:18:38) Zeromare: that happened to have dated recently
    (20:18:40) MeowMix: at reason
    (20:18:41) SuddenDeath5: ik this is like vanilla
    (20:18:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:18:44) Current Roles: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 9.
    (20:18:44) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, IronStorm, Karp Karpity, Master Yoda, RohanTheLucario1, SuddenDeath5, Thorgrim, Wr4et, gulc5886, meeps, superpotato.
    (20:18:44) Current Team: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7
    (20:18:44) Time: Day 1
    (20:18:44) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:18:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:18:44) MeowMix: err, dat
    (20:18:45) meeps: meowmix hi
    (20:18:47) gulc5886: why are 8 and 9 bad?
    (20:18:51) gulc5886: I can get 0, but..
    (20:18:52) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (20:18:52) ±Role: 8
    (20:18:52) ±Ability: Vote counts as 4. Reveals as 0 when inspected. Sided with Bad Numbers.
    (20:18:52) ±Game: 7-15 Players
    (20:18:52) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    (20:18:52) Karp Karpity: idk
    (20:18:53) Espeon: ./sides
    (20:18:54) SuddenDeath5: because 7 8 9
    (20:18:54) ±Game: superpotato voted for Karp Karpity!
    (20:18:56) SuddenDeath5: hahahah
    (20:18:58) ±Game: Karp Karpity voted for superpotato!
    (20:18:59) Karp Karpity: wtf
    (20:19:01) Wr4et: cos, 8 is a lucky number for chinese
    (20:19:04) ±Game: IronStorm voted for Karp Karpity!
    (20:19:04) Epikhairz0603: LOL @SuddenDeath5
    (20:19:11) SuddenDeath5: ikr Epikhairz0603
    (20:19:12) Master Yoda: 4 good number for Chinese, that I am sure.
    (20:19:12) Wr4et: and, 9 is 3 ^ 2 and 3 is an unlucky number?
    (20:19:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:19:14) Times Up! :
    (20:19:14) ±Porygon: Karp Karpity (0) was erased !
    (20:19:14) Current Roles: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 9.
    (20:19:14) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, IronStorm, Master Yoda, RohanTheLucario1, SuddenDeath5, Thorgrim, Wr4et, gulc5886, meeps, superpotato.
    (20:19:14) Current Team: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7
    (20:19:14) Time: Night 2
    (20:19:14) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:19:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:19:17) SuddenDeath5: PRO
    (20:19:20) Epikhairz0603: Nice we got 0
    (20:19:20) meeps: lol
    (20:19:23) Epikhairz0603: Or is that good...?
    (20:19:23) gulc5886: we got 0 lol
    (20:19:27) Wr4et: 0 teamed up with himself?
    (20:19:29) Epikhairz0603: I'm not even sure if that's good or not
    (20:19:30) SuddenDeath5: yes
    (20:19:33) IronStorm: Nice
    (20:19:34) gulc5886: 0 is lone guy
    (20:19:34) SuddenDeath5: its good
    (20:19:37) Master Yoda: #5 continue, BG me you should.
    (20:19:40) gulc5886: and we get epik next for not knowing
    (20:19:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:19:43) Times Up! :
    (20:19:43) ±Porygon: gulc5886 (7) was erased !
    (20:19:44) ±Porygon: RohanTheLucario1 (1) was erased !
    (20:19:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:19:44) Current Roles: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 9.
    (20:19:44) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, IronStorm, Master Yoda, SuddenDeath5, Thorgrim, Wr4et, meeps, superpotato.
    (20:19:44) Current Team: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
    (20:19:44) Time: Day 2
    (20:19:44) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (20:19:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:19:46) Epikhairz0603: How do we c0nnect PRs in this theme?
    (20:19:50) superpotato: meeps is 1
    (20:19:50) SuddenDeath5: theres 7
    (20:19:52) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (20:19:52) ±Role: 1
    (20:19:52) ±Ability: Reveals as 1 when inspected. Sided with Good Numbers.
    (20:19:52) ±Game: 1-15 Players
    (20:19:52) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    (20:19:57) superpotato: meeps is 1 i am 2
    (20:19:58) Wr4et: meeps might be bad then...
    (20:20:03) SuddenDeath5: baddies are 1
    (20:20:04) SuddenDeath5: so meeps can be bad
    (20:20:05) Wr4et: 1/4 chance oe being good honestly
    (20:20:05) Epikhairz0603: (20:19:52) ±Role: 1
    (20:20:05) Epikhairz0603: (20:19:52) ±Ability: Reveals as 1 when inspected.
    (20:20:07) Epikhairz0603: No sh*t
    (20:20:11) Espeon: lol
    (20:20:11) meeps: im not bad
    (20:20:11) SuddenDeath5: LOOL
    (20:20:12) meeps: lmao
    (20:20:13) IronStorm: lol
    (20:20:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:20:14) Current Roles: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 9.
    (20:20:14) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, IronStorm, Master Yoda, SuddenDeath5, Thorgrim, Wr4et, meeps, superpotato.
    (20:20:14) Current Team: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
    (20:20:14) Time: Day 2
    (20:20:14) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:20:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:20:18) SuddenDeath5: xD
    (20:20:18) Wr4et: no all the remainign bads inspect as 1
    (20:20:21) SuddenDeath5: i lmao'd
    (20:20:24) Espeon: ^
    (20:20:26) ±Game: superpotato voted for meeps!
    (20:20:27) Wr4et: so, all 1's are suspects
    (20:20:29) meeps: im 5
    (20:20:30) SuddenDeath5: Epikhairz0603 loooooolllllllllllll
    (20:20:32) meeps: seriously
    (20:20:33) meeps: why
    (20:20:40) *** *********************************************************************** ***
    (20:20:40) ±Role: 3
    (20:20:40) ±Ability: Can inspect one person during the night. Vote counts as 1. Reveals as 1 when inspected. Sided with Good Numbers.
    (20:20:40) ±Game: 7-15 Players
    (20:20:40) *** *********************************************************************** ***

    (20:20:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:20:44) Times Up! :
    (20:20:44) ±Porygon: meeps (5) was erased !
    (20:20:44) Current Roles: 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 9.
    (20:20:44) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, IronStorm, Master Yoda, SuddenDeath5, Thorgrim, Wr4et, superpotato.
    (20:20:44) Current Team: 1, 2, 3, 4
    (20:20:44) Time: Night 3
    (20:20:44) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (20:20:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:20:49) Master Yoda: crap.
    (20:20:49) SuddenDeath5: i cant stop laughing
    (20:20:49) Wr4et: oh wow
    (20:21:05) Wr4et: oh wtf good guys reveal as 1 as well...
    (20:21:06) Wr4et: what's with 1
    (20:21:08) Master Yoda: 1,2,4 quick PM if mind you don't.
    (20:21:10) Wr4et: honestly...
    (20:21:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:21:13) Times Up! :
    (20:21:13) ±Porygon: Master Yoda (3) was erased !
    (20:21:13) ±Porygon: superpotato (2) was erased !
    (20:21:13) The bad numbers (Wr4et, Thorgrim and SuddenDeath5) crashed everything and Porygon is now unable to do anything. Unlocked : Bad ending.
    (20:21:13) ±Game: The Good Numbers (Epikhairz0603 and IronStorm) lose!
    (20:21:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:21:21) Master Yoda: ...
    (20:21:21) Epikhairz0603: WOW I did not even get that...
    (20:21:21) SuddenDeath5: flawless victory
    (20:21:22) Wr4et: was gonna pm you
    (20:21:23) Espeon: bad numbers are OP in this theme
    (20:21:24) Wr4et: but i win instead
    (20:21:27) Epikhairz0603: I was so confused...[/HIDE]

    I have a couple problems with this theme. First is that it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to find your team because there are too many fake-inspect roles (to clarify - roles that get inspected as something else). Also, 8 and 9 are very OP because they are the ones controlling the kills. When 8 lynches, 4 doesn't even know who to defend due to a lack of knowledge of his team.
     
  21. Fuzzysqurl

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    I've yet to see a game where 8+9 did not score a perfect win. They control the kills and the votes, its nearly impossible to break.
     
  22. IceKirby

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    The thing is not that they simply control the votes. In theory, Village has the firepower to fight back, but they need a really good organization for that, and even then it could take 2 turns for a simple BG on Inspector connection. It's not only 8+9's firepower that's making them strong, it's the village's lack of speed to organize themselves..
     
  23. Opale

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    Nooo I wasn't here for the test ;_;
    Not to be mean with Anallia but if 9 and 8 both stay alive, 0 is pretty terrible.
    In fact the mechanics of the game are rather complex for a mafia theme, everybody testing should understand them first.
    I see everybody agree on 8 and 9 power, they sure are powerfull if 0 doesn't know 9.

    Although, i agree with IceKirby. Something's wrong on village slowness to connect. I search for a solution.
    Team knowledge at the start of the game might help.
    Let me think :c

    EDIT 1 : Clearing yourself as 7 by selfvote when there is no vote is a good strategy to connect, first.
    Btw, the word "fake-inspect" role is just totally wrong here, the analysis just put ppl in a group , like 2/5/8 for 3 : 2
     
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    I don't think that's enough, since is too easy to prevent that by making a mess of the Voting Phase. A single vote after 7's would be enough to break this connecting method.
     
  25. Roild

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    Even if 7 votes himself, 8 would jump on that and that'd be +3. If 4 decides to save, then it might be -1 again. Then the others continue because sheep. What if 8 and 9 aren't known to each other? Or a power mitigate for 8. I know you want +4/-4, but that's way too high for small games. 8 and 9 together essentially control the vote for a confused village. While 0 is just out being 0. Or you could curse 8/9 to slowly power up to their full potential. I am not sure whether the theme is non-peak. 15 max is very awkward. It's neither non-peak nor peak. Just sort of there. If you define the theme as semi non-peak, it would be a different monster. Either that or try to up it to 30 players.
     
  26. Opale

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    Actually it's not at all supposed to be a non-peak theme and i doubt game with less than 10 players will be that interesting. I just haven't extended the spawnlist.
    I think you are right and +4/-4 is way too high, i was already looking at this as a nerf to bad numbers team.
    Although, i hesitate on 2 ; 2,5 or 3.
    2 : Not really powerfull, 8 can't even fight two people properly if he succeeded at killing his counter.
    2,5 : Seems a good tie. ,5 though.
    3 : Still powerfull.

    Brb, extending the spawnlist.

    EDIT : since 8 got 9's support, in fact 2 would be the best in my opinion. It implies 6 only has +1.

    Btw, i doubt removing 0's knowledge of 9 was good idea. As you see, bad numbers without 0 are drawn to be overpowered, explained that at beginning : it gets to live, when 0 can't control 9's actions by killing him in the midgame, it fails, and bad numbers got a perfect win in your logs.
     
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  27. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Another thing: You should make the "inspections" all "/inspect" It is MUCH easier to remember than /analyze, and a lot faster to type too since the command is used more often, people can spend less time trying to type a command and more time playing the game. Since analyze doesn't add that much to the flavor as well it would be for the best.
     
  28. Opale

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    Yep, i was wondering on which to choose (stupid of mine to have said /inspect in some explanations) : /inspect is simple, but since it isn't an inspection this avoid some people who didn't read the rules to think this is fakeinspection, /analyze break the similarity but is hardest to remember. Guess we should switch on /inspect though.

    So now, one question : should 0 know 9s ? We're far from the impossible win for bad numbers side.

    [Spawnlist 10-20 , 10-15 modified + player number increase way]

    1 1 2 4 9
    0 1 1 2 4 9
    0 1 2 4 5 8 9
    0 1 2 3 4 7 8 9
    0 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 [10]

    0 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 (+1)
    0 1 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 (+1)
    0 1 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7 8 9 (+7)
    0 1 2 2 3 3 4 5 6 7 7 8 9 9 (+2, +3, +9, -1, -1)
    0 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 5 6 7 7 8 9 9 (+1)
    0 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 (+4, -8)
    0 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 (+5)
    0 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 (+6)
    0 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 (+1)
    0 0 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 [20] (+0)


    Now, to increase by 10, the same additions and substractions can be applied more than once.
    Guess it preserves some balance, and for X0 players you got X time each number.
    Important note : 0 doesn't know the other(s) 0.

    Little note : i got 9 as a new PO name ^^'
     
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    If 0 don't know each other, can they kill each other by accident? And will they share a kill? (Or broadcast)
     
  30. Opale

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    0 is immune to night kills.
    And this doesn't make sense they would share a kill if they don't know each other.
     
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    Some bad teams can see each other's actions, but don't know each other. Not too common.
     
  32. Opale

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    Anyway, they shouldn't know themselves. Even if one 0 die the other would end up with far too much informations, due to the double inspect each night. Village must struggle to know their teammate, so do 0s !
    After that , i don't know if they should see each other actions ... that would be interesting to make 0s try to connect by a double meaning messages !
     
  33. Opale

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    I think a test with 0 knowing 9 and 8 only having 3 votes should be done again (huge bad side nerf)
     
  34. Beast

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    (01:00:29) ±Game: You are a 4!
    (01:00:29) ±Game: As its half , you're the only one able to counter Octa's plans ! He got an +4 vote nuke, you got an -4 nuke. You got no other special commands. You're sided with the good numbers.

    I have no clue what i do. Can you make it more clear?
     
  35. Opale

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    8, one of the two bad numbers, got a vote of +4 (going to be less soon). You for a -4 voteshield, meaning that you're able to negate his vote. You must figure our who 8 is so you can prevent him using his vote to kill good numbers.
     
  36. Beast

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    I meant make it more clear in the theme not on here. :) Say something like: "As its half, you are the only one able to counter Octa's plans!! Octa has a vote of #, while you have a vote of -4. Use your vote to counter Octa. You have no special commands. You are sided with the good number."
     
  37. Opale

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    Ah , right.
    I'm fixing many things right now, but i don't know how to update the theme. /update nonary IG, yeah, but what do i modify ? The pastebin ?
    [ Then i read that : When you come on and rehost the theme on your pastebin, use " /update Nonary: pastebinlink " without the quotes and replace "pastebinlink" with the actual link. Use the "RAW" file or it will not work correctly. I'm definitively psychollogically blind]

    List of changes : (> = done ; -> = to do)
    > 8 and 4 vote lowered to 3 and -3.
    -/> I hesitate on putting back 0 knowing 9s.
    > /inspect, not /analyze.
    > Replacement of all "Octa", etc, in tooltips, by the numbers.
    > Change of 4's tooltip.
    > Increase spawnlist, up to 30 or 40 players. EDIT : Increased to 30.
    -> 0 team fixes, but i don't know how to do it for now. I'll search.
    > 6 only got +1.
    > 7 players game spawnlist fix : spawns a 7 instead of 3.

    + Tips added on some numbers , ex , 0.
    0 now reveals as 1 to 2 inspects, instead of 0.

    Guess that's all.

    NEW PASTEBIN : http://pastebin.com/sLLufQM8
     
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  38. Opale

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    Help, i tried update, connected on Nona or Opale2, and for both it answers me : (23:22:33) ±Murkrow: You need to be admin or the author of this theme.
    I typed "/update Nonary:http://pastebin.com/sLLufQM8"
     
  39. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    You need 2 ":"
    You need to use the RAW link
    And you need valid JSON, the same errors I fixed for you the first time.
     
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  40. Opale

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