[BW2] Break a pokemon

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  1. Mr. N00b

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    Zapdos @ Life Orb
    Trait: Lightningrod
    EVs: 112 HP / 252 SAtk / 146 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Agility
    - Thunder
    - Hurricane
    - Earth Power

    With this EV spread, at +2, Zapdos reaches 542 Speed, outspeeding Scarf Starmie and below. Lightningrod(if ever released), would boost Zapdos Special attack to 573 if it absorbs an electric attack. The rest of the EVs are put into HP to help tank a hit to set up an Agility.

    Under rain would make Zapdos a very potent Rain Sweeper. With STAB Hurricane and Thunder, Zapdos gets a wide range of coverage, being only resisted by electric types. Earth Power helps deal with those and any Steel or Rock Types hoping to wall Zapdos in some way, being walled only by Max HP/Sdef Eelecktross, and the pink blobs.

    252SpAtk Life Orb +1 Zapdos (+SAtk) Hurricane vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Levitate Eelektross (+SpDef): 45% - 53% (169 - 199 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.

    252SpAtk Life Orb +1 Zapdos (+SAtk) Thunder vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Levitate Eelektross (+SpDef): 45% - 53% (169 - 199 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.

    252SpAtk Life Orb +1 Zapdos (+SAtk) Hurricane vs 252HP/0SpDef Eviolite Chansey (+SpDef): 33% - 39% (237 - 280 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.

    252SpAtk Life Orb +1 Zapdos (+SAtk) Thunder vs 252HP/0SpDef Eviolite Chansey (+SpDef): 33% - 39% (237 - 280 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.

    252SpAtk Life Orb +1 Zapdos (+SAtk) Hurricane vs 4HP/252SpDef Leftovers Blissey (+SpDef): 36% - 42% (237 - 280 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.

    252SpAtk Life Orb +1 Zapdos (+SAtk) Thunder vs 4HP/252SpDef Leftovers Blissey (+SpDef): 36% - 42% (237 - 280 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.

    Even a Max HP/Sdef Ferrothron doesn't take a +1 Hurricane too nicely:

    252SpAtk Life Orb +1 Zapdos (+SAtk) Hurricane vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Ferrothorn (+SpDef): 75% - 88% (264 - 312 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
     
  2. Epikhairz

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    Regigigas @ Silk Scarf
    Trait: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SpDef
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Earthquake
    - Return
    - Payback

    Welcome, an ExtremeSpeed sweeper that rivals even Arceus! Although it's movepool still isn't that good, getting rid of it's awful Slow Start ability for the game-breaking Speed Boost and giving it a priority move to help its Speed Stat to start with and later against Priority users, this should shoot the sad sad legendary straight up to Ubers.
     
  3. Xdevo

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    Tornadus @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Tinted Lens
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Hurricane
    - Aura Sphere
    - U-turn
    - Air Slash

    Flying has very few specially defensive resists in OU. Tinted Lens destroys them. With the few double flying resists in OU, and the ones that can take any form of hit are slower and weak to the other coverage moves Torn can use.

    252 SpAtk Choice Specs Tornadus Hurricane vs 252 HP/252 SpDef Rotom-W (+SpDef) : 64.47% - 76.32%
    252 SpAtk Choice Specs Tornadus Hurricane vs 252 HP/252 SpDef Jirachi (+SpDef) : 50.74% - 60.15%
    252 SpAtk Choice Specs Tornadus Hurricane vs 180 HP/0 SpDef Tyranitar: 49.22% - 58.29%
    252 SpAtk Choice Specs Tornadus Hurricane vs 252 HP/120 SpDef Tyranitar (+SpDef) : 38.12% - 45.3%
    252 SpAtk Choice Specs Tornadus Aura Sphere vs 252 HP/120 SpDef Tyranitar (+SpDef) : 77.23% - 91.09%
    This thing would basically be impossible to wall in OU, and its still really quick to boot.
     
  4. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

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    The most creative one yet:

    Mew with Mulititype. New item: Blank Plate, powers up Normal moves by 20%. With no plate Mew is Psychic type. Oh, and it also gets Judgment now. Not sure if it would go Ubers, but it would certainly break UU. Of course, it could still run its old sets perfectly viably. But here are some new sets it could use. I know some would be outclassed, I was thinking on my feet.

    Bug Forme:
    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Insect Plate
    EV: 4 Def, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment
    Earth Power
    Softboiled/ Ice Beam [/HIDE]

    Dark Forme:
    Stallbreaker
    Nature: Bold
    Item: Dread Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 224 Def, 32 Spd
    Calm Mind
    Judgment
    Softboiled
    Heal Bell/ Substitute/ Taunt

    Utility Counter
    Nature: Adamant
    Item: Dread Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 100 Atk, 156 SDef
    Payback
    Sucker Punch
    Softboiled
    Drain Punch/ Taunt
    [/HIDE]

    Dragon Forme:
    Physical Sweeper
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    Item: Draco Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Outrage
    Earthquake/ Superpower/ Low Kick
    Sucker Punch/ Fire Punch/ Thunderpunch

    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Draco Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment
    Aura Sphere
    Fire Blast/ Thunderbolt/ Softboiled

    SubCM
    Nature: Timid
    Item: Draco Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 4 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Substitute
    Calm Mind
    Judgment
    Softboiled/ Aura Sphere
    [/HIDE]

    Electric Forme
    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Zap Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Thunderbolt/Thunder
    Ice Beam
    Softboiled
    [/HIDE]

    Fighting Forme
    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Fist Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment
    Shadow Ball/ Fire Blast
    Softboiled

    Toxic Support
    Nature: Careful
    Item: Fist Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 224 SDef, 32 Spd
    Toxic
    Drain Punch
    Payback
    Softboiled

    Physical Sweeper
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    Item: Fist Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Drain Punch/Superpower
    Sucker Punch
    Softboiled/ Superpower
    [/HIDE]

    Fire Forme
    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Flame Plate
    EV: 4 Def, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Flamethrower/Fire Blast
    Aura Sphere
    Thunderbolt/Giga Drain/Softboiled
    [/HIDE]

    Flying Forme
    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Sky Plate
    EV: 4 Def, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment
    Earth Power/Aura Sphere
    Softboiled

    MonoAttacker
    Nature: Calm
    Item: Sky Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 232 Def, 32 Spd
    Calm Mind
    Jugment
    Softboiled
    Heal Bell/Will-O-Wisp/Taunt
    [/HIDE]

    Ghost Forme
    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Spooky Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment
    Aura Sphere
    Softboiled/Substitute

    Hazard Support
    Nature: Timid
    Item: Spooky Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 4 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Stealth Rock
    Taunt
    Judgment
    Aura Sphere

    Status Support
    Nature: Timid
    Item: Spooky Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 4 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Softboiled
    Judgment
    Aura Sphere
    Will-O-Wisp/Thunder Wave/Toxic
    [/HIDE]

    Grass forme
    Calm Mind
    Nature: Timid
    Item: Meadow Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 4 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Calm Mind
    Giga Drain/Judgment
    Earth Power/Flamethrower/Ice Beam
    Softboiled

    Paralysis support
    Nature: Calm
    Item: Meadow Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 224 SDef, 32 Spd
    Thunder Wave
    Giga Drain/Judgment
    Softboiled
    Taunt/Roar/Dragon Tail
    [/HIDE]

    Ground Forme
    Physical Sweeper
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    Item: Earth Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Softboiled

    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Earth Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment
    Ice Beam
    Softboiled

    Burn Support
    Nature: Impish
    Item: Earth Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 224 Def, 32 Spd
    Will-O-Wisp
    Softboiled
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    [/HIDE]

    Ice Forme
    Special Sweeper
    Nautre: Timid/Modest
    Item: Icicle Plate
    EV: 4 Def, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment/Blizzard
    Thunderbolt
    Softboiled
    [/HIDE]

    Normal Forme
    Physical Sweeper
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    Item: Blank Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Double Edge/Return
    Drain Punch/Earthquake
    Sucker Punch/Softboiled

    Special Wall
    Nature: Careful
    Item: Blank Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 4 Def, 252 SDef
    Light Screen
    Roar/Dragon Tail
    Return
    Softboiled
    [/HIDE]

    Poison Forme
    Burn Support
    Nature: Bold
    Item: Toxic Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SDef
    Ice Beam
    Will-O-Wisp
    Softboiled
    Taunt/Roar/Dragon Tail

    Calm Mind
    Nature: Timid
    Item: Toxic Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 4 SDef, 252 Spd
    Calm Mind
    Sludge Bomb/Judgment
    Aura Sphere/Flamethrower/Ice Beam
    Softboiled
    [/HIDE]

    Psychic Forme
    All the sets regular Mew runs
    [/HIDE]

    Rock Forme
    MonoAttacker
    Nature: Timid
    Item: Stone Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 4 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Calm Mind
    Judgment
    Softboiled
    Heal Bell/Taunt/Will-O-Wisp

    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Stone Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment
    Fire Blast
    Giga Drain

    Physical Sweeper
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    Item: Stone Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Softboiled
    [/HIDE]

    Steel Forme
    Calm Mind
    Nature: Bold
    Item: Iron Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SDef
    Calm Mind
    Judgment
    Softboiled
    Substitute/Will-O-Wisp/Roar/Dragon Tail

    Physical Sweeper
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    Item: Iron Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Iron Head
    Earthquake
    Softboiled/Stone Edge

    Utility Counter
    Nature: Calm
    Item: Iron Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 128 Def, 128 SDef
    Softboiled
    Ice Beam
    Thunder Wave/Will-O-Wisp
    Taunt
    [/HIDE]

    Water Forme
    Special Sweeper
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    Item: Splash Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Judgment
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt/Giga Drain

    Physical Sweeper
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    Item: Splash Plate
    EV: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Waterfall
    Superpower/Low Kick
    Ice Punch

    Calm Mind
    Nature: Bold
    Item: Splash Plate
    EV: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SDef
    Calm Mind
    Surf
    Softboiled
    Will-O-Wisp/Heal Bell

    Status Support
    Nature: Bold
    EV: 252 HP, 224 Def, 32 Spd
    Surf
    Softboiled
    Will-O-Wisp/Thunder Wave
    Taunt/Roar/Dragon Tail
    [/HIDE]

    Sorry for the long post, but you've got to admit that would be pretty interesting.
     
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  5. Black Ghost

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    Ok, was gonna do sap sipper quagsire but swampert's already done, so try this!

    Charizard @ Sash
    Type :Fire/Dragon
    252 Speed/252 Attack
    Jolly/Hasty Nature
    Blaze/Moxie

    -Dragon Dance
    -Flare blitz/fire blast
    -Outrage (stab)
    -Earthquake

    Now this one's really OP -

    Girafarig @ Damage reduce berry -Bug/dark?
    Ability: Two heads are better than one - Doubles Special Attack
    Nature: Happy (boosts all)
    Dunno whats the best movepool but:
    Agility
    Psyshock/Psychic
    Signal beam
    Thunderbolt

    U mad?
     
  6. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    If you could refrain from A, double posting, and B, making up your own abilities and stuff, that'd be great lol.
     
  7. Black Ghost

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    Lol I'm an nuisance on this thing, sorry, but you don't like charizard or my new ability/nature? :O
     
  8. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Yup, Charizard's perfectly fine, because you haven't created anything new there. I'm fairly sure someone's done that before on this thread somewhere, but hey. :D
     
  9. george182

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    Haxorus @ Choice Band
    Ability: Tinted Lens
    Evs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Hp
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    Moves:
    - Outrage
    - Outrage
    - Outrage
    - Outrage

    There are loads of pokemon that would be broken with the 'Tinted Lens' ability, but I felt Haxorus was particularly notable due to nothing in the entire game being able to switch into this set as nothing is immune to Outrage and everything is 2hkoed at minimum by Outrage, while everything faster is OHKOed.
     
  10. Black Ghost

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    Ok Spoovo I think I owe you an original brokemon so here-

    Rapidash @ E-belt/lefties
    Ability : No Guard
    Nature: Probably Timid
    EVs: Not gonna bother making a spread for an imaginary flaming unicorn

    -Inferno (100% accurate)
    -Hypnosis/coverage (not gonna include horn drill)
    -Thunder (coverage + triple status troll)
    -Megahorn
     
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  11. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    I don't see how that is broken.


    Klingklang @ Leftovers
    Trait: Download
    EVs: Whatever spread you'd like!
    Prob adamant / jolly nature
    - shift gear
    - gear grind
    - wild charge / frustration / substitute
    - substitute / frustration / wild charge

    This would totally wreck NU. Not that much in the upper tiers, but Klingklang is mainly used in NU.
     
  12. two sides of one coin

    two sides of one coin sick of all her shit

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    Alternatively, use Simple.
     
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    Gengar @ Leftovers
    Prankster
    Levitate
    252 speed, 252 sp.attack
    - Substitute
    - Disable
    - Shadow Ball
    - Focus Blast

    It looks mischievous so prankster makes some sense xD losing levitate is a big loss, but prankster disable has got to be broken.
     
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    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 4 / 252 Def / 252 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Wish
    - Seismic Toss
    - Refresh / Protect
    - Toxic

    Part of me feels like this would not necesarily break Blissey and in fact part of me also feels like Natural Cure is still more benifiting but yeah . . . I was just thinking . .
     
  15. george182

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    I think it might break Blissey, one of the problems with wish support is that half the time you have to use the wish on yourself while they switch to a blissey counter. With Regenerator, this problem is solved allowing you to pass wishes off it's huge 651 hp all day.

    Heal Bell > Refresh maybe?
     
  16. two sides of one coin

    two sides of one coin sick of all her shit

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    Needs more priority Destiny Bond!

    ...and maybe WoW.
     
  17. Olivine

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    Kyurem-B @ Expert Belt
    Teravolt
    Adamant
    252 Atk, 4 Def, 252 Spe
    Shift Gear
    Icicle Spear
    Fusion Bolt
    Dragon Claw/Outrage
     
  18. .Rawr!

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    Good idea, but it's still hard walled by his usual counters: jirachi, ferrothorn, bronzong. A set could be:

    Kyurem-B @ White Herb
    Trait: Teravolt
    EVs: 108 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Shell Smash
    - Outrage
    - Fusion Bolt
    - Earthquake

    With 148 speed, it outspeed jolly scarf latios after a shell smash, full attack and the rest on HP for some bulk. Earthquake take care of Jirachi, Bronzong and at some point ferrothorn.
     
  19. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

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    Interesting one I thought of:

    Crawdaunt @ Life Orb
    Trait: Adaptability
    Naive Nature
    EV: 252 Atk, 4 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Shell Smash
    Waterfall/Crabhammer
    Crunch
    Ice Beam

    Since Crawdaunt is a lobster, Shell Smash makes sense. Waterfall is recommended, although the power of Crabhammer can be useful. Crunch is the reliable STAB. Ice Beam is for Tangela.

    Speaking of Shell Smash...

    Torterra @ Life Orb
    Trait: Mold Breaker
    Adamant Nature
    EV: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    Shell Smash
    Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge/Return
     
  20. [Black Knight]Gawain

    [Black Knight]Gawain Knight of Zero

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    Excadrill @Leftovers/Life Orb
    Trait: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance/Protect
    - Earthquake
    - Shadow Claw
    - Brick Break

    Forget Sand Rush, Speed Boost Excadrill can probably own Ubers just fine this way, except Kyogre, unless it's weakened or Excadrill has a proper amount of SDs done.
     
  21. Olivine

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    Shaymin-S @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 SpA / 252 SpE

    - Seed Flare
    - Hurricane
    - Weather Ball
    - Synthesis

    Hurricane and Serene Grace so annoying.
     
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    Landorus @ Life Orb
    Trait: Sheer Force
    EVs: 68 HP / 252 SAtk / 188 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk -Atk)
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power [Ice]
    -Focus Blast
    -Rock Polish

    I thing this would be a big threat to the OU metagame. OH WAIT

    All kidding aside though.


    Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    Trait: Multiscale
    EVs: Whatever suits your team
    Nature: Something that goes -Speed
    -Recover
    -Power Whip
    -Gyro Ball
    -Spikes/Anything

    I wonder how hard it would be to get past this in the rain.
     
  23. george182

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    Give it rain dish lol
     
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    Volcarona (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Magic Guard
    EVs: 144 HP / 252 SAtk / 112 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Bug Buzz
    - Giga Drain
    - Quiver Dance

    bye hazards, This thing wreks all

    Salamence has a part of shelgon's shell...so...

    Salamence (M) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Shell Smash
    - Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast

    beast imo...intimidate for easy setup but you can use moxie too

    Weavile @ Life Orb
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 HP / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Beat Up/Pursuit
    - Low Kick
    - Ice Shard
    - Swords Dance

    for easy wins
     
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    NidoTheKing Father of the Year 2014!

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    Shedinja @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Sturdy
    Lonely nature (+Atk, -Def)
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    IVs: 0 Def
    - Endeavor
    - Shadow Sneak
    - X-Scissor
    - Shadow Claw

    [SECRET]Because FUCK THE WORLD!!! \o/[/SECRET]
     
  26. Olivine

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    Volcarona (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Compoundeyes
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest/Timid
    - Fire Blast
    - Bug Buzz/Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Hydro Pump
    - Quiver Dance
     
  27. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

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    Yeah Stealth Rock says hi.
     
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    Aerodactyl @ Life Orb/Choice Band
    Trait: Rock Head
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    -Brave Bird
    -Head Smash
    -Earthquake
    -Stealth Rock
     
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    Phillipx or Phillipz
    Empoleon @ Choice Specs
    Trait:Drizzle/Cold Steel (Cold steel grants resist to fire and resist to fighting moves)
    EVs: 4hp/252 Special Attack/252 Special Defence
    Modest Nature/Timid Nature
    -Quiver Dance
    -Hydro Pump
    -Air Slash
    -Ice Beam

    This. Bye bye politoed and now empoleon as drizzle inducer of Choice! Quiver Dancing Penguin is umm... Kinda interesting. and air slash because it's a penguin. Also Empoleon now makes a grand entrance to the OU tier.

    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: Anything
    Any nature
    -Iron Head
    -Body Slam
    -ANCIENT POWER
    -BLAZE KICK

    This. Now.

    Mightyena @ Lifeorb
    Trait:Huge Power
    EVs: 252 Attack/252 Speed/4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    -Extreme Speed
    -Dragon Dance
    -Crunch
    -Outrage

    ^ Have fun trying to wall this thing.
     
  30. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    Skarmory, Forretress, Ferrothorn, and Scizor will have plenty of fun.

    Farfetched'd much?

    Yes, ditching the ability that gives you immunities to 75% + of the moves you'll see is a good idea.
     
  31. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

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    Not sure if this would break the Pokémon, but it would certainly give it a boost

    Garchomp @ Life Orb
    Trait: Sand Force
    Jolly Nature (+Spd -SAtk)
    Dragon Dance
    Outrage
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
     
  32. phucvn

    phucvn Cheap player

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    Honestly, I say giving Sheer Force to anything with a potent Special movepool will break it. I mean, look at Nidoqueen and the almost-broken Landorus.
    Keldeo@ Life Orb
    -Trait:Sheer Force
    U know the EVs
    -Scald
    -Focus Blast
    -Dark Pulse
    -Calm mind
    Scald hits harder than surf lol. With DP not even Celebi or jellicent is safe. The only thing I see checking this is Psyshock Starmie, which can be killed by a certain sandy dinosaur.....
     
  33. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

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    There are plenty of physical moves that get the Sheer Force boost too. Sticking with Sheer Force...

    Thundurus-T @ Life Orb
    Timid Nature
    Trait: Sheer Force
    EV: 4 Def, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
    Nasty Plot
    Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam
    Focus Blast
     
  34. pokeboss9

    pokeboss9 Member

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    i loled at most to Daybreaks Cresselia set.


    This is similar;

    Wobbuffet @ Leftovers
    Calm Nature
    Trait: Shadow Tag
    EV: 4 Spe , 252 Def , 252 SpD
    Encore
    Mirror Coat
    Counter
    Recover

    Quite realistic improvement since many Psychics get Recovery moves.
     
  35. Blitzamirin

    Blitzamirin Waluigi! Number one!

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    ...Sturdy allows you to live literally every single attack that is aimed at you. Your only weaknesses are secondary effects (most of which are 10%), hazards, status (Safeguard), weather (you can run a weather move like most people that run Sturdy Shedinja), Rough Skin / Iron Barbs / Aftermath / etc and other irrelevant shit, and it is significantly better than Wonder Guard. Don't use sarcasm when you have no clue how the set works.
     
  36. Amon

    Amon Normal User

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    Dragonite@Leftovers
    Trait: Own Tempo
    Adamant Nature
    252 Attack/252 Speed/4 hp
    -Outrage
    -Dragon Dnace
    -Filler move
    -Filler Move

    ^ Yey 4 outrage spam.

    Rampardos@Lifeorb/Choice Band
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Speed Boost
    252 Speed/252 Attack/4 Whatever
    -Extreme Speed
    -Head Smash
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Fang

    I wonder what tier this would drive Rampy in.. Hm....
     
  37. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Speed Boost AND ESpeed would just be pointless on Ramp, as ESpeed outruns every other direct attack anyways. Fire Fang is also dumb, because Rampy gets Fire Punch lol.
     
  38. Aurist

    Aurist I do not jump for joy. I frolic in doubt.

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    Entei @ Choice Band
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Flare Blitz
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Horn Leech
    - Earthquake

    pls give it this so we can finally throw it out of LU lol
     
  39. .Rawr!

    .Rawr! c(°3°)כ

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    [​IMG] @ Leftovers/Wise Glasses
    Trait: Adaptability
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Modest Nature (+SpA, -SAtk)
    - Quiver Dance
    - Hydro Pump
    - Giga Drain
    - Ice Beam

    Fuck yeah dancin pineapple!
     
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  40. phucvn

    phucvn Cheap player

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    I totally agree. In fact I think people should stop putting Speed Boost and Huge Powers on stuffs and call it a day. What ever happened to creativity?