[Final] Stunky

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  1. Mylo Xyloto

    Mylo Xyloto if your world falls apart, i'd start a riot

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    ==General==
    *Excellent typing
    *only one weakness
    *Premier Ghost-trapper
    *Good Speed
    *Aftermath
    *Poison Typing absorbs Toxic Spikes

    ==Set1(Defensive Trapper)==
    Stunky @ Eviolite
    Trait: Aftermath
    EVs: 92 HP / 92 Atk / 60 Def / 188 SpD / 4 Spe
    Careful Nature
    - Sucker Punch
    - Pursuit
    - Crunch / Taunt
    - Explosion / Fire Blast

    Set Comments:
    *Excellent typing allows it to function as a defensive Ghost trapper.
    *Sucker Punch to hit faster threats like Misdreavus and Scarf Gastly
    *Crunch for a reliable STAB
    *Taunt to prevent Misdreavus from setting up on it i.e. Nasty Plot
    *Explosion as a last minute suicide after Ghost-types are removed.
    *Fire Blast hits Steel-types like Ferroseed
    *Faces competition from Pawniard and Houndour.
    *Typing enables Stunky to function as a better Ghost trapper since they usually rely on Hidden Power Fighting.
    *EV’s are to balance Stunky’s stats, focusing on Attack and HP.

    ==Other Options==
    *Life Orb set
    *Hone Claws
    *Lum Berry
    *Choice Scarf
    *Full Special set.

    ==Checks and Counters==
    *Fighting Types like Timburr and Mienfoo
    *If Stunky lacks Fire Blast Steel-types wall it.
    *Will-O-Wisp
    *Ground-types like Diglett and Drilbur, must watch out for Sucker Punch though.

    If anyone has a good reason why LO should receive a set please state your reasonings and I'll add it if valid reasons are given.

    (Very rough skeleton so feel free to suggest changes)[/HIDE]

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    ==General==
    Stunky boasts an excellent defensive typing having only one weakness: [[Ground]]. Stunky is the premier [[Ghost]] trapper of LC and functions similar to {{5gnu|Skuntank}} in NU. It has a good Speed stat and access to the ability [[Aftermath]]. Stunky also has a decent move pool moldable to suit your team’s needs. A nice bonus when picking Stunky is the ability to absorb the rare Toxic Spikes due to its [[Poison]] typing.

    ==Defensive Trapper==
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    Stunky’s exceptional typing allows it to function as a defensive Ghost trapper. Sucker Punch should be run to help counter Ghost-types as they typically run a [[Fighting]]-type attack for coverage, which hits Stunky for neutral damage. In addition, Sucker Punch allows Stunky to deal with faster threats like {{5glc|Misdreavus}} and Scarfed {{5glc|Gastly}}, hitting them for super effective damage in the process. Crunch is used as a reliable STAB attack and does great damage to any Pokémon that doesn’t resist it. Taunt could be used over Crunch to prevent Misdreavus from setting up on it with [[Nasty Plot]]; Misdreavus is faster than Stunky however, so its uses are relatively limited. Explosion can be used as a last minute suicide after Ghost-types are removed. Fire Blast hits [[Steel]]-types like {{5glc|Ferroseed}} who would otherwise wall this set. Stunky faces competition from {{5glc|Pawniard}} and {{5glc|Houndour}} as a Ghost trapper. The EV spread is to help balance Stunky’s stats, focusing more on Attack and HP.

    ==Other Options==
    Other options include a Life Orb set, which can function as an offensive pivot. A boosting set containing [[Hone Claws]] could be viable, but Stunky is generally too slow to sweep teams successfully and it would require sacrificing a valuable move slot in order to run it. A [[Lum Berry]] could be used to protect Stunky from status ailments, but being unable to use Eviolite hurts Stunky defensively. A [[Choice Scarf]] set enables Stunky to outspeed and KO Ghost-types like Misdreavus and Gastly.

    ==Checks and Counters==
    [[Will-O-Wisp]] can cripple Stunky tremendously due to the reliance on Physical attacks. Fighting-types like {{5glc|Timburr}} and {{5glc|Mienfoo}} are a real nuisance for Stunky since its moveset contains mostly [[Dark]]-type moves. If Stunky lacks Fire Blast, Steel-types like Ferroseed wall it without a problem. Ground-types such as {{5glc|Diglett}} and {{5glc|Drilbur}} can outpace and kill Stunky, but Sucker Punch can offset this. More defensive orientated Pokémon, namely {{5glc|Hippopotas}} and {{5glc|Porygon}}, can beat Stunky due to reliable recovery and overall bulk. Since Stunky uses mostly Dark-type attacks, opposing Dark-types can be a pest, most notably Eviolite {{5glc|Murkrow}}.
     
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  2. SockPuppet

    SockPuppet lmao

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    Personally I feel Life Orb Stunky is a great offensive pivot for a team needing a way to lynch Ghost-types, which is basically Stunky's core purpose in the metagame, while also being able to revengekill Psychic-types, Steel- and Ice-types with access to Fire Blast and Flamethrower, and the stray Diglett/glass cannon revengekillers, provided Stunky retains Sucker Punch rather than the stronger Crunch alternative. Something like Hidden Power Ground can be thrown in for fear of Electric-types. While LO Stunky is outclassed by most other LO users that do the exact same thing, namely Houndour (see: the entirety of its movepool) it's still a pretty nifty thing to whip out at the unsuspecting.
     
  3. Mylo Xyloto

    Mylo Xyloto if your world falls apart, i'd start a riot

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    Thanks for your opinion and sorry for only commenting now. I'll discuss the addition of LO Stunky with Weavilewinz. The thing with LO Stunky is that Misdreavus beats it. It gets 2HKOd by Misdreavus' HP Fighting with SR. It also loses to Sub / WoW Missy and LO Houndour as you said yourself outclasses LO Stunky. But I get your reasoning.
     
  4. Weavile

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    It took me a long time to get to this and I apologise greatly for that.

    I think we decided that LO would remain an OO thing due to the things Mylo stated. I think this can be written now
    Approved for writing. (Which since you're the only other QC guy, is all you need)
     
  5. Mylo Xyloto

    Mylo Xyloto if your world falls apart, i'd start a riot

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    I've written it. I'll add the format later on as I'm on my tablet atm.
     
  6. Weavile

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    Boy I hope that was tablet laziness.

    Anyway, looks OK, I think the C&C could be expanded on a bit, needs mention of generally physically bulky Pokémon, stuff like Hippo and Porygon.
    Needs a mention that Eviolite Murkrow does a decent job against it if it's wary of Explosion imo.
    When you've made any edits you want feel free to ask a Copy Editor to go over it (CasedVictory said he'd do any we wanted, or you can ask Samphire to give you one)
     
  7. Mylo Xyloto

    Mylo Xyloto if your world falls apart, i'd start a riot

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    Yeah lol Sorry had had to do it quick,especially the c&c :o before studying for my maths final. I'll finish it tomorrow.
     
  8. Weavile

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    I asked Samph to assign a copy-editor, she assigned Fuzzysqurl. So that will be done soon.