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Discussion in 'Pokémon Chat' started by Professor Oak, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Spoovo The Pirate

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    So this is floating around Facebook, apparently about three new legends that were 'leaked'. Some highly interesting typing among them, with what appears to be Rock/Fairy, Psychic/Ghost, and Fire/Water.

    Anyone have any idea on these? They were on Serebii for all of a moment, but apparently got taken down pretty quickly too. Thoughts?
     
  2. Blitzamirin

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    These are confirmed to "exist" as you can find offers on the GTS that ask for them. Any other thing that is not a real Pokemon will not show up on the GTS.

    There's also a leaked move and 2 new berries that were found via Hotel Richissime's daily work. The move is thought to belong to Diancie, and the berries are similar to Custap / Micle / Rowap in Gen 4.
     
  3. Angel Flonne

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    There was a tweet I read from GF itself: We know fans are angry with the number of new Pokemon, but we will surprise you
    Or something like that, which leads me to believe that this rumor is not false
     
  4. Crystal Moogle

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    The tweet was fake
     
  5. Angel Flonne

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    Wow okay
    But anyway I hope this is fully real, a fire water finally = :D
     
  6. Scatterbrain

    Scatterbrain You only live once*

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    How is Scald not Fire/Water type in Gen 6? Makes no sense.
     
  7. Noog

    Noog So much potential...

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    It took six generations.

    But finally Flareon can use that 130 Atk on a decent STAB.
     
  8. Blitzamirin

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    So yay my favorite Pokemon of the gen Dragalge has confirmed Adaptability!

    Aurorus gets Snow Warning as a HA! Seems interesting even with the nerf.

    Entei gets Sacred Fire which makes it an option on CM I guess.
     
  9. Xdevo

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    Sacred Fire is a Physical move which means Entei will probably run it on the CB set if they don't want to keep running Adamant.
     
  10. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    Psychic/Ghost is like one of the worst types ever.

    Anyway, (sadly) I see Mega Gengar almost definitely going Uber. Shadow tag, perish song, newfound utility for poison moves against fairies, 130 speed with 170 special attack, yeah.

    Also, people are underestimating most Mega Pokémon. Sure they don't have Life Orb but they get more bulk and they don't take recoil, so they definitely are still viable. Unless you're talking about Mega Garchomp, what is with the speed
     
  11. Poli

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    LO Gengar hits harder than Mega Gengar so all it gets is Shadow Tag (best selling point Imo), higher but not so needed Spd and a bit of bulk, on the other side it loses Levitate and becomes affected by Sticky Web after it Megaevolves

    Don't forget Ghosts aren't trappable so it cannot trap slower Gengars (non Mega) Jellicent (if it will be used this gen ofc) and Aegislash isn't trappable anymore cuz Shadow Sneak
     
  12. yiran

    yiran Become a Magical Girl!

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    Without Life Orb Substitute becomes a lot more viable and really, you could just substitute and even if a pursuiter comes in, just switch out. Only problem that exists is Blissey, but even that is broken by perish song. lol perish song gengar
     
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    Not specifically on topic, but seeing as Zapdos can be caught on XY...

    Check out this one that a friend caught!

    Zapdos - #145 (Modest) : 28 - 29 / 26 - 27 / 31 / 26 / 20 / 29.

    O.o
     
  15. East's Mascot

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    It's general discussion about X and Y, you're discussing a topic that is about X and Y, so you're on topic :] So if Zapdos is there, would it be a fair assumption to say Moltres and Articuno are there are well?
     
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    All three of them are there, right? Anyway you just need to force them into that place after encountering them for 10 times or so.
     
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    Well yeah, but it was technically off topic because this Zapdos was caught in One of the gen 1 remakes lol. But still, awesome Zapdos ftw.

    And yesh, tis a shame that you can catch only one of them. I wonder why they always pick the birds for the out of region roaming mons?
     
  19. Volke

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    I guess it's because they can fly xP

    I already have a timid Zapdos somewhere, but I'm not lucky at all with DVs :(
     
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    I love the females passing egg moves thing. I thought that MegaPinsir would be pretty meh, but with this it gets both Close Combat and Quick attack!
    I think the new legends thing has something to do with the new region we may get? There is this backpacker at the hotel that gives you an item called 'strange souvenir' and teases us saying that it's not from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Unova (Nor Kalos, if you were wondering).

    And them teases about a Ruby/Sapphire remakes man. In the hotel Richissime a couple talks about Rubies and Sapphires and anniversaries, and Hoenn get's mentiond by alot of other NPC's.. Like the swimmer near Cyllage something city etc.

    Which one is it >.< Hoenn remakes or new region..!? Probably the new region.. That 'strange souvenir' represents a pokémon, making it likely either Diancle, Hooper or Vulcanion.
     
  21. Crystal Moogle

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    According to the Smogon research thread, Aerilate and friends adds an extra 30% boost on top of STAB, so that's fun
     
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    Well that's dandy... Something I haven't seen mentioned but not proved (also I haven't noticed in-game yet) are crits really 1.5x now instead of 2x?
     
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    I've also heard this. I believe I heard confirmation somewhere, but I wouldn't be able to find a source
     
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    What's the PO thoughts on this? Will PO take the same approach?
     
  25. Spoovo The Pirate

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    It's being discussed by modly people, and as of yet it's not decided whether to use all of the pokemon, and save on tiering time (let's face it, the changes likely won't be huge), or we do that and keep it 'legit'.

    I personally vote for the former, as it'll likely be simpler, instead of stirring shit up again once older mons are re-introduced to the metagame.
     
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  26. Aurist

    Aurist I do not jump for joy. I frolic in doubt.

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    yup, having done the in-game testing for this myself for PO, I can confirm.
     
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    According to serebii, Tyrantrum gets the hidden ability of rock head, which will make head smash more viable on a rock polish set.
     
  28. pokemonnerd

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    (18:02:36) +Professor Oak: I'm all for sidestepping the question until bank is released.
    Oak EDIT: lmao, fuck you pnerd
    pnerd edit: you jelly, bro?

    In all seriousness, as more info is put out for the bank, we don't really know what we want to do. We were thinking along the lines of having a "fake" metagame, with the idea that everything obtainable in some way, shape or form could be freely transferred to X and Y from the 5th gen games. If that's true it would basically let us get a jump start on what's broken and what's manageable in theory.

    Either way, we lose time trying to stick with what's only available in XY now since the Bank is going to "unlock" some pokemon previously unattainable, changing the metagame regardless. Basically, either way we stand to lose some time. So sticking to the aforementioned "fake" metagame is probably the way we'll go.

    Note that this isn't finalized at all, just what we're talking about behind closed doors.

    Edit: We might actually just do a real ladder, like smogon's doing, and a fake ladder, what I described above. Like I said, nothing's finalized yet.
     
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  29. NidoTheKing

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    How come no one mentioned this? This is more powerful than Crunch now!!

    65 * 1.5 = 97.5

    97.5 + 65 = 162.5 > 160 = 80 + 80
     
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    It's more powerful than Crunch once. After the item is knocked off, it's 15 bp weaker before STAB, so really, stick with Crunch (Unless you're in LC because omfg Knock Off is going to be insanely good).
     
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    We were talking a bit about Knock Off on the server, Knock Off's utility is amazing and I can safely say I'd rather have Knock Off over Night Slash 100% of the time on things that don't have Crunch like Absol or Weavile.
     
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    An extremely important thing to note is that Knock-Off has the ability to hit through steels now, meaning most Pokemon's that get it without STAB have another great utility move since removing leftovers or other stuff is beneficial for its role. Things like Landorus-T can knock off Skamory, Rotom-W, or other common switch-ins removing them of leftovers then U-turning for momentum. While I do agree that it shouldn't be used over other dark moves if you're going for coverage/attack, it still got a major buff that'll really make it more viable in competitive play.
     
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    I enjoy abusing the lack of Moody Clause and Evasion Clause in Gen 6 Ubers.
    I enjoy using Moody Octillery, Moody Glalie and Minimize Blissey.
    I enjoy watching my opponents suffer.
     
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    Those clauses were just added to XY Ubers, have fun.
     
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    :(
    At least I still did some stuff
    Made people angry :D

    Anyway, I just caught Zygarde and Mewtwo, yay. You know, there's really a lot of space for them to put new legendaries

    I think something was called Empty Chamber. You could put something there.
    Lost Hotel. Another ghost legendary is fun.
    Ad there was one more I forgot, one of those caves. Well, here's to hoping for DLC
    And DLC mega stones
     
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    Downloading a new part to the pokedex would be epic.
     
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    So yeah, apparently the legendary trio has been confirmed.
     
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    The levels though.. wut
     
  39. Spoovo The Pirate

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    Yeah, I heard someone hacked into the game to 'find' them. I'll presume that they'll be encountered at higher levels, perhaps as DLC data or something (hopefully we won't have to pay... :x)
     
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    Ok I'm just going to write the CREEPIEST THING that happened on X(and Y)
    Ok I was like exploring Lumiose city then I went up to second floor in some office building then suddenly(I mean suddenly)My avatar moved forwards once then a Hex Maniac just appeared behind me and when she was moving-no-her legs were not even MOVING!It just stayed up ;one leg up one down but none moved when she was apparently "moving" and then she suddenly stopped and this time she said some thing to me O_O ,she said "No,you're not the one." and then did that creepy moving again.I looked around the room and OMG there was no hide out,no door and of course NOONE just me!

    Also this happens after you defeat Team Flare.
    I'm also guessing this is some deleted scene?

    Note:
    This is posted almost on every web check out Youtube and type in "Pokemon XY Ghost Girl".

    Which route or place is Diancie encountered?e-e
     
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