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  1. Tesla Elesa

    Tesla Elesa Almost Quality

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    Okay, I never really did accept this.

    Here's parts of my PM since I'm too lazy to write something up:
    Let me clarify on Castle. I do, for the record, think it has strategy in its modern implementation. But excessive daykills are still excessive daykills, priestesses or not. It's the foundation of the theme, and I can't see Castle working any other way. It's a good theme.

    In the same way, DBZ was fine the way it was. No one saw it as imbalanced besides the auth. And it only had 1 or 2 more day actions at most than other themes. Every side had a chance of winning. If this is imbalance, I don't know what balance is.

    @Michu
    No, Princess Luna was posting in the appropriate thread. There will always be comparisons to other themes in a thread like this, like it or not. And her statement was very much about DBZ, even if it was unsubstantiated in some way.
     
  2. Princess Luna

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    Seriously if someone can code and get the theme off Mewtwo i would be more than happy to throw ideas around i know a fair bit about DBZ
    hell i was offered the theme myself but declined due to inability to code
     
  3. MewtwoHidden

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    To the people defending my theme: Thank you but try to tone it down, all this arguing isn't going to change the MA's minds it may make it more difficult to
    To the MAs: You say DBZ is unbalanced, but you don't try to give me ideas not like I ever see most of you play except once in a blue moon ZzyzZ and Water
     
  4. Zzyzx Road

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    OK. Some facts will be repeated as they are reasons for multiple arguments against the current version of the theme.

    1. This theme has a total of 6 nightkills, 3 poison actions, 3 unrevealing daykills and 1 revealing daykills at maximum.
    This, combined with a lynch, makes for a total of 19 deaths at the end of N2.

    2. The theme has a total of 4 daykills, 3 exposing actions (1 with multiple faking possibilities) and 1 self-revealing action at maximum in a normal standby phase.
    Massive day log spam we can all see. You'll probably refer to Castle (as you already have) but this can't be borne in combination with #1.

    3. This theme has 3 poison actions and one kill faster than all protects.
    It's known there are safeguarders, but even then poison-type deaths are fairly stealthier and harder to stop, and generate a lot of different events than those of a common kill (i.e. "I'm poisoned prs pm" or "I'm poisoned I'll waste my revealing kill").

    4. The amount of deaths mentioned above remove the feel of strategy and increase the randomness of a game.
    Lynches barely matter now, the village relies on Goku and a few PRs connecting undercover (who can all die randomly with the massive death).

    These are but few reasons. You ask me, why didn't we see this before? I recognize I erred when approving this theme in the first place, but as we all say oftentimes some things can only be noticed after you play the game (and then they start to slap your face in obviousness). I don't know which ones of these things were already in the approved version of the theme but I believe most of these things were added later. I myself wouldn't approve a theme with this many kills, though I reckon I may have been mistaken.

    Now, if your problem is with the QC as a whole, take it with us in PM or create a separate thread for it (though this has been done before if you want to check).
     
  5. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    Yes I understand what you are telling me But What would you have me to do Specificly Also Made a new thread for its sole purpouse
     
  6. Zzyzx Road

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    It's not that I know what you should do specifically - it's just that the current version isn't good to go. What to change is up to you

    edit: not that I wouldn't like to help, it's just that I don't know how. Sorry.
     
  7. MewtwoHidden

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    Neither can Tesla,Ricekirby,Luna or me I gave it all I could the first time around so if you want change I'm going to need specific instructions :x
     
  8. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    This Hide Tag hides something huge.
    Goku: Fine as is
    SuperSaiyan Goku: Fine as is
    Krillin: Hax on seeing the player is a little high but that doesn't really matter.
    Piccolo: Knowing Inspector is kind of unfair but makes sense Flavor wise
    Vegeta: Fine as is
    Saiyan Vegeta: kind of unbalanced role expose and daykill in same role. Could change to night kill to keep flavor
    Korrin: While poison is limited give village to many possible kills when in game
    Bulma: Fine as is
    Gohan: Fine but knowing BG seems a little unfair like I said before
    Civilian: Not that it matter but the hax for seeing Team and Player are the same. They should be different in my opinion but like I said it doesn't actually matter.
    Mr. Buu: Two mayors on same team?

    Village: 2 Day kills, 1 night kills, 1 poison, 1 distract, 1 expose, 1 protect, 1 inspect, 1 safeguard, 16 total voting power

    Dr. Gero: Poison message still needs to be edited.
    Cell: Fine as is
    Android 16: Fine as is
    Android 18: Fine as is
    Android 17: Fine as is

    Android Mafia: 3 kills, 1 poison, 1 protect, 1 inspect, 5 voting power total

    Freiza: Fine as is
    King Cold: help is confusing.
    Cooler: Fine as is
    Zarbon: Fine as is

    Freiza Mafia: 1 day kill, 1 night kill, 1 protect, 1 poison, 4 voting power total

    Kid Buu: Fine as is
    Dabara: Fine as is
    Babidi: Fine as is
    Babidi Slave: Fine as is

    Buu Mafia: 1 expose, 1 night kill, 1 convert, 1 bomb, 13 voting power total

    Hercule: Self Protecting is kind of unfair for a loner.

    Hercule: 1 reveal, 1 protect, 2 voting power total

    Shenron: Can't win by themselves

    Shenron: -1000 voting power total

    Broly: Fine as is
    Awakened Broly: 3 day kills? I thought i voiced my dislike before

    Broly: 3 day kills

    Raditz: Fine as is
    Nappa: Fine as is

    Saiyan Mafia: 2 night kills, 1 stalk, 2 total voting power

    Total Actions: 6 daykills, 8 night kills, 3 poisons, 1 stalk, 3 protects, 1 distract, 2 inspects, 2 expose, 1 reveal, 1 safeguard, 1 bomb

    Total possible kills in one phase 19 including vote and bomb being killed.

    Sides are not balanced.

    Saiyan Mafia only have 2 people is no where close to being fair. I would say they are weakest faction
    Frieza Mafia is at a disadvantage when facing either Andoids or Buu.
    Androids and Buu look balanced.
    Village having the highest voting power is ok I guess but it basically allows them an extra kill while already have the possibility of 4 kills in one night.
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    It seems to me that sides themselves are Ok but there are just to many possible kills over all. I really don't like Broly at all and he is my biggest problem with the theme. I know you tried super hard with this theme. It is salvage able but it will take a lot of work. The Spawn list isn't balanced either in my opinion. The are 4 villagers until 29 roles. So 25 roles are roles that actually do something. That is a little bit of PR fest for a theme up to only 30 people. Personally I would get rid of Hercule and maybe add Turles to Saiyan mafia. Shenron doesn't seem to have much of a use in my opinion either.
     
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  9. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    These, at least the first one more than the second one, were what I noticed. While I wasn't a QC at the time I was posting, it doesn't mean they should be disregarded. There should have been no excuse on why they weren't fixed. Neither required being a rocket scientist in coding, and the first error was intentional as the default value for that is "silent": true. This means, when the theme was created, this was intentional but served no purpose and hurt the overall theme.

    On the note about the 2nd "error," I put that message in there when I was assisting making everything valid. I even mentioned that it would need to be changed. Instead, it was left the same and the theme was submitted for review. So that negates the "carefully observed" part. If the theme was truly being watched close, something would have been done.


    Finally, I believe one of the excuses used for why it wasn't fixed was because the theme author did not own the pastebin. This presents a rather serious problem as you require another person to manage everything for you. The obvious communication lags and the lack of effort in "typing /themeinfo DBZ, clicking the link, copying the entire theme, making a new pastebin under your control, then updating it" weren't helping the theme.

    -----EDIT ZONE BELOW-----

    I faced a lot of difficulty with ROTK being accepted by the community. In fact, people still oppose, but mostly because it's an underplayed theme and no one cares to learn it when they can play something they already know like FF or FE. It took me awhile to figure out what to do, but as of right now, the general acceptance of ROTK by the community is higher than it was in the days following approval. Some people dislike that I removed the names because they were the players that actually took some time and effort to learn, but others are thankful that they have the ability to learn the theme easier. The thing about ROTK is I also try to make things intentionally complex and "cutting edge," because I personally want the theme to stand out. As of right now, ROTK is the only theme with a "day inspector." However, that presents the problem of trying to teach a player a new concept. So while I might have my gripes about DBZ, I understand a little bit of what you might be undergoing (@MewtwoMaster).

    Re: The theme being balanced
    From what I've seen, it might not necessarily be balanced, but just luck of the draw. Of course, without entire game logs and testimonials from each player on why they did what they did, this point can never be proven. However, there are too many threats that prohibit from the village connecting. The "balanced" numbers contain data from all size games and include all events (such as people not paying attention and voting off claimed people or obvious fake reveals). Therefore, the theme might not be balanced at all. Village could be winning every small game, but the moment the player count reaches a certain number, the mafias over power and too many things occur that can destroy the village too easily.

    If you look at default, in large games, village tends to win a lot more than any other one specific side. However, it doesn't make the theme "imbalanced." Good play from Mafias mixed with a little luck and/or strategy can lead them to victory. Obviously letting the inspector live too long is bad, but you can usually learn who is a PR by watching what occurs. Anyone that quickly follows the inspector might be linked with them. Anyone that is never mentioned might also lead to a PR, no one is really going to mention the BG in suspect talks if they are linked (there are exclusions though), so the key is to pay attention. Uhh... Most of the time, every action revealed something that eventually compounded into a win. In DBZ, there were enough threats flying around that you could be hit with one at any moment and needed an enormous amount of luck to not only learn something, but survive long enough to compound it into a win. Train of thought derailed and I'm not sure where I was going with this, hence the choppiness... so... onto my next point.

    Let's use FF and FE as examples. While I could nitpick some flaws about each, they follow a simple premise. The village "core" (Mainly Inspector/Samurai/Exposer) has threats to it. In FE, Ike has to deal with roles like Nergal, Demon King, Ashnard, Black Knight, Disgruntled Soldier. In FF, Locke has to deal with roles like Kefka, Ultimecia, Kuja, Yunalesca, Sephiroth. These are the threats to the village, but there are ways to circumvent the threats. For example, in FF, Zidane is around to hax Locke (and Lightning). Auron and Tifa are mutual haxers. This gives village a way to connect. In FE, roles are paired up and know each other (Lyndis/Hector, Ike/Soren, Roy/...Micaiah?, etc). By grouping up village roles and giving each group chances to learn stuff makes the village "balanced." Think of the village as small mafia groups, but those groups work together towards a common goal. Each little core has enough information that it can sway the game, but not too much that the small group decides the game alone (e. g: Lyndis and Hector in small games pretty much decide who wins and loses based on what occurs with them). However, in FF, Auron and Tifa might be able to get rid of a number of bad guys (Get some lucky hax and you can take out most of Sin/House), they won't be able to win without some additional support from other players (They can't take out Kuja, Kefka, Sephiroth, etc). The synergy between the small cores of villagers is what leads village to a win. They've got tools at their disposal that allow them to compound information and secure wins. While luck always affects a game, good strategic play can outdo luck. This is the premise for Space Invaders, Minesweeper, and Vanilla. The game can be won and lost just with unlucky actions, but by attempting to control the luck factor leads to victories.

    From what I see in DBZ, the only connections possible is BG and Inspector, because they know each other off the bat. Everything else has to be done underground with too many threats to claim. The problem I see is that the Mafias are stacked against the village too much in larger games as well. This brings me back to the point of claiming it is balanced with nearly infinite variables affecting it. With nearly every Mafia role as a "unique" threat to the village, it just makes it so much more difficult to control and relies heavily on crossfires and luck. Village can pull off a win if the bad guys just continue to kill each other.


    tl; dr -- read the bold and underlined parts for sure... also, read my mind so that way you get what I wanted to say instead of what I said (cause I know somewhere something didn't type out the way I was thinking it)
     
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  10. IceKirby

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    Those were merely aesthetical errors. You may say the first one can hurt the theme, but I think it's obvious it was intended to be a silent action. This is not the only theme to do that, so that was more of a suggestion than an actual issue.
    When I'm talking about complaints, I have in mind stuff that actually changes the game experience for better or worse. Not saying there was none, but that's still really far from what Castle still gets.

    About the lack of update, I think the part where you mention "having someone else managing everything" is not an actual issue. The issue is whether the update comes or not, and that taking a while to happen only truly hurts a theme when there are critical fix pending (not the case for those issues you quoted).
     
  11. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    I edited my post. :)
     
  12. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Updated my other post too.

    Aesthetics can affect gameplay. Look at Saturn's daykill message in Space. While you or I would know what it was trying to do, others don't and I witnessed a villager voting the revealed Saturn today.
    For Babidi, you are required to scan the current players list every day to see if he succeeded or not. Nergal, who is most like Babidi, has a convert message that tells the players a convert occurred.

    But I was mainly using the 2 issues I brought up to counter the "closely watched" part you said.

    Re: Lack of update, I suppose you're right. I was trying to use myself somewhat as an example, but the key difference between me and Mewtwo that I overlooked was activity level. If there's a problem in Ocean or ROTK, people know who to go to right away, and can usually get a hold of me. While Mewtwo isn't as "active" as I am, when someone does have an issue, it would require them telling Mewtwo, then Mewtwo telling Sky Sentinel (who I presume is the current holder of the pastebin as I know he was working on the theme). The communication lag is the big issue. Every theme is going to have a recognition lag and implementation lag, that is, the times required to spot the errors and the times to fix them. When you include the communication lag, people would rather take the path of least resistance and just select another theme. Now problems aren't being noticed, communicated, or solved allowing the theme to drop lower and lower in the amount of times it is played.

    Again, I can't even concentrate on forming an entirely coherent reply, so please forgive me.


    ----- EDIT ZONE----
    As for Castle, I personally just skip playing whenever it comes up. I dislike that the start of the game is a complete "targetfest." I'm not using the word "randfest" because everyone knows Castle is a "stress reducing theme." Someone pissed you off in a previous game? Someone countered your rand? Just kill them with spears/fireballs. There has never been a Castle game where, on day 1, people try to sort things out before spamming their daykill as fast as they can on the target they would have nightkilled had they possessed that ability.
     
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  13. Tesla Elesa

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    Off topic rants that will waste your time and shouldn't be taken seriously at all:
    Okay, perhaps I was insinuating something there. I apologize. However, I will have to point out that, indeed, auth are the only people that see it as imbalanced. I'd say that's more of an issue of most people simply not caring about balance or strategy, but maybe I was antagonizing the auth unintentionally with my statement.

    Okay, I don't think anyone has a political agenda here. And for the record, I am QC. That's probably really obvious and you were probably talking to the others, but I'd just like to emphasize that point. QC does have problems. So does the government of every nation. In good times, in bad times. Everyone likes to complain, whether you're part of the system or not.

    Being biased isn't a bad thing. It's being human. Don't try to act unbiased when you're not (saying this to everyone, including myself, because lol, me unbiased). As long as you don't consider your opinion to be all high and mighty and listen to those of other people (I think we're doing okay with this right now), you can go on and be a biased person.[/HIDE]

    @Rotom and Castle and other themes
    Yeah, now we're getting off topic. please read the insightful last paragraph of this post for more

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    I'd like to thank BeastCharizard, Zzyzx Road, and Fuzzysqurl for substantiating their reasoning with actual evidence,

    Now, I can't argue with the statistics. What I will say though, is that I don't think 4 day actions amounts anywhere close to day log spam. Else, Body would look really bad with its expose, obviously fake expose, village daykill, 3 unrevealed daykills from a lone role, and the potential for many more daykills if the Stem Cells all become hearts. I'm not seeing how DBZ is worse in this respect.

    19 deaths at the end of N2 is pushing it too. You're neglecting the very real possibility of killers killing each other, plus the 4 protects and 2 safeguards. However, I will say that this theme does suffer from command overload, in the order of kills and poisons. I'd take out a few. This is a major problem I see, definitely.

    Not sure what you mean by "feel of strategy." Hate to bring it up again, but Castle, despite being coded to have strategy, doesn't "feel" like it in the least. People daykill auth, people they don't like and people who screwed them over the past few games. Fact. I agree that DBZ doesn't feel like the most strategical theme either.

    My main gripe with DBZ is that a lot of the sides and roles seem to be in there to, well, just be in there. You have the Pen, you have the Nergal/Sushi Chef/Fan Rotom/whatever, you have the Kuja, you have the multiple conspirators and you have the lone roles. It just doesn't feel authentic. A theme shouldn't try to do everything. It should stand out in its own way. It can't use its flavour as a crutch for uniqueness. Unfortunately, this is what most people tend to do when they make a theme. "more roles and more sides=more awesome" is the generally line of thought (see the original WWII I made 2 years ago). The result tends to be a total blatant disregard for proper game structure.

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    I blame myself for using the word "balance" egregiously to describe this theme. It isn't. I was just too lazy to think or actually go over the code. It's not balanced at all. Then again, I can count the number of balanced themes we have on the server on one hand (one finger?).

    My thought process for why a theme like this should have stayed on the server is 1) you should have given the reasoning on why you took it down first, 2) you should have let people discuss before taking it down, 3) there are themes that are up that are arguably worse, and 4) you're not encouraging him to fix it by taking it down.

    Look at Garden. Disabled for "taking too long and OP gardener." Angel Flonne deletes his forum account (accidentally deleted okay same thing). Quits mafia for a while. Never gets fixed. He gave up on it and has moved on. You discouraged him and now Garden is dead forever.

    In the same vein, you're making MewtwoMaster give up by disabling DBZ. He doesn't have confidence in his own abilities anymore and wants to pass it on to a "better" coder. The last few posts have been a mess, and he seems really overwhelmed on everything. This is not what the system was set up for. We want to encourage people to become better, not crush them down for their first attempt. And it seems like that is what is happening right now.

    My advice would be to put DBZ, and guide MewtwoMaster through the process of fixing it. Play a game, MAs, QC, and other people can comment on any imbalances or problems. Take it one step at a time. Be supportive. Disabling doesn't help at all.
     
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  14. NAVIDAD PIRATE

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    uhh, flonne's account was accidently deleted and he still does theme stuffs (see: ice cream, creation competition)
     
  15. Water

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    This theme was removed from the server following a lot of server discussion among members of QC and MA. We certainly didn't do this to target DBZ or it's author specifically (Pixar was also taken down around the same time) and once the issues with the theme have been resolved we welcome it to be resubmitted. Removing a theme is not meant to be a death knell to the theme or a discouragement or an insult to it's author and once issues have been resolved with the theme we welcome the theme to be resubmitted for review.

    I admit that the removal process is a bit muddled at the moment and that QC has it's own problems and I apologize for that. We are actively working to resolve problems with the system. We welcome suggestions to help improve either process and are actively working to do so. These can be made a number of ways and you should never be afraid to try to contribute your thoughts either by making a thread here on the forums or PMing one of us on the server or forums. I genuinely believe that all of the staff love mafia and genuinely want nothing more than to see it succeed and all of them are willing to discuss mafia issues with you.
     
  16. MewtwoHidden

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    Ok I'm really tired of all this arguing now the first thing I must say is This is just way too much for me to do alone!!
    I used to have Sky Sentinel to help me but blast it I haven't seen him in ages now I can "Fix" Dbz although the current support group Consisting Primarily of Luna.Me,Tesla,bbyJesus,Goten,Scorchedswords, etc. Aren;'t going to like it but as said if you really must have it changed then I can do it on a few conditions

    1. I Need a Co-Host preferably somebody who is wanting changes or a QC member maybe Tesla or Fuzzysqurl
    2. I need to have a place to test it occasionally I can't judge balance on paper very well, for me to judge I need to be watching gameplay on a basis of at least once every few times I add or remove a kill
    3. I need these changes to make DBZ stay Forever because 've altered it multiple times on account of QC demanding it, it has never been enough and i'd like to get it over with Once and For all because I have several themes I'd like to start on but I have to devote all my time here
    4. I need you to guide me. I am extremely new to theming, probably the newest to own a theme that has made it onto he server (I've only been on Mafia for two or three months)

    But seriously Tesla is right I am being Overwhelmed and discouraged
     
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  17. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    There is no such thing as being done with a theme forever unless you are giving up on it. There are always going to be things that need changed in a theme as time goes on. That isn't to say after fixing this you will have to update ever 5 seconds. Having a theme is hard to do.

    Right now it is just like your theme was rejected by the QC rather than accepted and we are asking you to make changes in order for it to be accepted. This isn't to make you quit theming or anything. You are going through the same things everyone else has to go through in order to get a theme on the channel. My first theme Kingdom Hearts was rejected and I spent like 3 months remaking it in order for it to be different and yet balanced at the same time. It take a lot of work to get themes up to the standards of the QC. I am one of the QC and I have trouble making a theme up to our standards.

    I know you can do it, it just might take time. There are many things you could change and still keep the integrity of the theme in tact.

    The first theme I got on the server I asked for it to be taken down because I did not feel like it was up to par. Being new is hard but at the same time it allows you to prove yourself and get a foot hold in the community and get yourself better known. The drama that has come along with this theme being removed has probably spread you name a lot faster than normally would. I am pretty sure there are still people who don't know who i am and i am an MA.


    In short I am trying to say don't give up. There are always hurdles one has to cross and they can be steep but they are always managable. I went role by role for you and voiced my opinion of what needed to be changed so you can use that as a start of what to fix and then get other people's input to further the theme towards the greatness that this theme has potential for.
     
  18. MewtwoHidden

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    But the problem is keeping both sides happy and content I have the QC side which wants changes and the Players side thats wants it as similar as possible its a difficult place to be in because its like i'm the rope in a tug-of-war and the combined-but-opposite forces are pulling me apart

    Now how about I tell everyone the basic concept of DBZ,
    It starts with a Strong and Standard village much like FE to be honest it has Ike (Goku) Roy (Vegeta) Soren (Gohan) Hector-debuffed (Piccolo) Sothe (Krillin) and it has Seperate-but-equal factions that Counter not only the village but each other (Btw Beast Super Saiyan Vegeta is Saiyan Mafia not Village) and Contrary to popular belief the village connects without much trouble Piccolo and Gohan Are connected N1 and Goku and Krillin are Connected N1 so all it takes is for these two groups to Connect (When Goku kills or Vegeta reveals him, etc.) I Should Probably Buff Piccolo some to give village a better fighting chance but I do love a fair game where every side is unique yet balanced
     
  19. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    Sorry about the Saiyan Vegeta thing. i didn't look at sides i just assumed it was organized by side.

    You can make the theme the same by just taking roles out and adding in villagers. Does the Saiyan mafia ever actually show up? If you want something special for Vegeta give Babidi the chance to convert him specially to the Buu side. If you want Hercule in the theme make him village sided only and specially named villager, and maybe let him know Mr. Buu. You want Shenron in the theme? I don't think I ever saw him so he isn't needed. You want Broly to still be Awesome? Give him 2 nightkills and a revealing Daykill. Flavor wise it makes more sense because who isn't going to see that huge Super Saiyan Broly? I think you should take out the shared kill between the androids and just leave it with Cell and 16 killing and Gero with the poison. That is 2 kills a night and a one time kill. Also, maybe give 16 safeguard to make up for the downgrade.

    i just took out 3 kills right there and potentially stopped another with adding the safeguard. I don't feel like I took anything away from the theme either. It would still have the feel it had before. Of course the feel it had before was killing everything in sight but what would one expect from a DBZ theme.
     
  20. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    Hmm what would Majin Vegeta have, maybe a /explode that kills himself and the person he chooses but he loses any DK or DE he had?
    I'm also interested in a Turles maybe after night 2/3ish he can /fruit like the Tree of might to power himself up

    This quote adds most of the ideas I'm having as of now
     
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  21. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    1. {
    2.     "name": "DBZ",
    3.     "author": "MewtwoHidden",
    4.     "minplayers": 7,
    5.     "summary": "The fight for the Universe is here! Goku and the heroes you know fight all the bad guys, but the bad guys aren't aligned either as they fight among themselves! Will Goku triumph again or will the earth be ruined? Even I dont know this time ...PM MewtwoHidden if a problem arises. (special thanks to Sky Sentinel who did most of the coding as well as grammar!) Remember: When Bulma dies, Vegeta becomes sided with the Saiyan Mafia. Kid Buu exposes the same way as Vegeta, so keep in mind that not all exposes are able to be trusted as long as he is in the game!",
    6.     "sides": [
    7.         {
    8.             "side": "village",
    9.             "translation": "Z-Fighters",
    10.             "winmsg": "The noble actions of ~Players~ saved the Earth- no, the entire Universe from utter destruction!"
    11.         },
    12.         {
    13.             "side": "FriezaMafia",
    14.             "translation": "Frieza",
    15.             "winmsg": "Oh no! ~Players~ have obtained the Dragon Balls and Frieza has obtained eternal life! He now can enslave the entire universe ..."
    16.         },
    17.         {
    18.             "side": "AndroidMafia",
    19.             "translation": "Androids",
    20.             "winmsg": "Now that the Z-Fighters are gone, ~Players~ will absorb every life form in the universe ..."
    21.         },
    22.         {
    23.             "side": "BuuMafia",
    24.             "translation": "Kid Buu's Mafia",
    25.             "winmsg": "With no strong fighters left, ~Players~ have turned everyone into Candy! Om-Nom ..."
    26.         },
    27.         {
    28.             "side": "Shenron",
    29.             "translation": "Shenron",
    30.             "winmsg": "~Players~ have destroyed all those pesky people who wanted wishes"
    31.         },
    32.         {
    33.             "side": "Hercule",
    34.             "translation": "Hercule",
    35.             "winmsg": "~Players~ also known as Hercule is obviously stronger than any of your light shows and tricks"
    36.         },
    37.         {
    38.             "side": "legend",
    39.             "translation": "Broly",
    40.             "winmsg": "The legendary Broly, ~Players~, has destroyed everyone."
    41.         },
    42.         {
    43.             "side": "saiyanmafia",
    44.             "translation": "Saiyan Mafia",
    45.             "winmsg": "The Saiyan Mafia (~Players~) have found the Dragon Balls and gained immortality!"
    46.         }
    47.     ],
    48.     "roles": [
    49.         {
    50.             "role": "Samurai",
    51.             "translation": "Goku",
    52.             "side": "village",
    53.             "help": "You are the most powerful Z-Fighter. You are always there for everybody when they need a person to protect them from evil. So you get an nonrevealing daykill-- type /kill during the standby phase! Since you are so loved, you have 2 votes and you become a Super Saiyan if Krillin dies.",
    54.             "info": "Can kill one person during standby (non-revealing). Vote of 2. Sided with the Z-Fighters",
    55.             "actions": {
    56.                 "standby": {
    57.                     "kill": {
    58.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    59.                         "msg": "Type /kill [name] to kill anybody. Hurry!",
    60.                         "killmsg": "Goku charged an energy beam and fired it at ~Target~ and killed him! KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAA!"
    61.                     }
    62.                 },
    63.                 "vote": 2
    64.             }
    65.         },
    66.         {
    67.             "role": "Samurai1",
    68.             "translation": "Goku",
    69.             "side": "village",
    70.             "help": "You are the most powerful Z-Fighter. You are always there for everybody when they need a person to protect them from evil. So you get an revealing daykill-- type /kill during the standby phase! Since you are so loved, you have 2 votes.",
    71.             "info": "Can kill one person during standby (revealing). Vote of 2. Sided with the Z-Fighters",
    72.             "actions": {
    73.                 "startup": {
    74.                     "revealRole": "Hax"
    75.                 },
    76.                 "standby": {
    77.                     "kill": {
    78.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    79.                         "msg": "Type /kill [name] to kill anybody. Hurry!",
    80.                         "killmsg": "~Self~ charged an energy beam and fired it at ~Target~ and killed him! KAAAAAME...HAAAAAME...HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
    81.                     }
    82.                 },
    83.                 "vote": 2
    84.             }
    85.         },
    86.         {
    87.             "role": "SuperSamurai",
    88.             "translation": "Super Saiyan Goku",
    89.             "side": "village",
    90.             "help": "Okay, now I'm ANGRY! Kill an enemy during the day with /kill, and you also have the option to kill another enemy with /energy (Will Reveal).",
    91.             "info": "Can kill one person during standby (non-revealing). Can also kill one person during standby (revealing). Sided with the Z-Fighters",
    92.             "actions": {
    93.                 "standby": {
    94.                     "kill": {
    95.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    96.                         "msg": "Type /kill to perform a non-revealing kill.",
    97.                         "killmsg": "Goku lunged at ~Target~, who died instantly!"
    98.                     },
    99.                     "energy": {
    100.                         "command": "kill",
    101.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    102.                         "msg": "Type /energy to perform a revealing kill.",
    103.                         "killmsg": "~Self~ charged an energy wave and let it fly at ~Target~!",
    104.                         "limit": 2
    105.                     }
    106.                 }
    107.             }
    108.         },
    109.         {
    110.             "role": "Hax",
    111.             "translation": "Krillin",
    112.             "side": "village",
    113.             "help": "You are sided with the Z-Fighters and have a pretty good chance of Hax (30%). So remember to tell your best friend Goku who has forgotten who you are. You just wish this conflict would go away as it scares you.",
    114.             "info": "Gets hax on kills. Sided with the Z-Fighters",
    115.             "actions": {
    116.                 "hax": {
    117.                     "kill": {
    118.                         "revealPlayer": 0.1,
    119.                         "revealTeam": 0.3
    120.                     }
    121.                 },
    122.                 "startup": {
    123.                     "revealRole": "Samurai"
    124.                 },
    125.                 "onDeath": {
    126.                     "convertRoles": {
    127.                         "Samurai": "SuperSamurai"
    128.                     },
    129.                     "convertmsg": "±Scouter: Goku's Power Level is OVER NINE-THOUSAAAAAAAAAND!"
    130.                 }
    131.             }
    132.         },
    133.         {
    134.             "role": "BG",
    135.             "translation": "Piccolo",
    136.             "side": "village",
    137.             "help": "You are sided with the Z-fighters! Protect them by using the command /protect. Especially Gohan, who you basically raised and that is why you always know Gohan's identity",
    138.             "info": "Can protect one person during the night. Sided with the Z-Fighters.",
    139.             "actions": {
    140.                 "startup": {
    141.                     "revealRole": "inspector"
    142.                 },
    143.                 "night": {
    144.                     "Dodge": {
    145.                        "command": [
    146.                        "safeguard",
    147.                        "protect",
    148.                        ],
    149.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    150.                         "common": "Self",
    151.                         "priority": 2,
    152.                         "broadcast": "Role"
    153.                         "limit": 1,
    154.                     }
    155.                 }
    156.             }
    157.         },
    158.         {
    159.                     "role": "BG2a",
    160.             "translation": "Piccolo",
    161.             "side": "village",
    162.             "help": "You are sided with the Z-fighters! Protect them by using the command /protect. Especially Gohan, who you basically raised and that is why you always know Gohan's identity",
    163.             "info": "Can protect one person during the night. Sided with the Z-Fighters.",
    164.             "actions": {
    165.                 "startup": {
    166.                     "revealRole": "inspector"
    167.                 },
    168.                 "night": {
    169.                     "Dodge": {
    170.                        "command": [
    171.                        "safeguard",
    172.                        "protect",
    173.                        ],
    174.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    175.                         "common": "Self",
    176.                         "priority": 2,
    177.                         "broadcast": "Role"
    178.                         "limit": 2,
    179.                     }
    180.                     }
    181.                     }                  
    182.                     },
    183.         {
    184.             "role": "Exposer",
    185.             "translation": "Vegeta",
    186.             "side": "village",
    187.             "help": "Type /expose during the day to expose a person's role you will not be revealed. You don't like being on the same team as Goku, but if he dies, you will never be able to show that you are more powerful than him. Watch out for Kid Buu's fake exposes! You can win with the village only until Bulma dies. Then you'll change sides and be with the Saiyans!",
    188.             "info": "Can expose one person during standby. Sided with the Z-Fighters.",
    189.             "actions": {
    190.                 "standby": {
    191.                     "expose": {
    192.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    193.                         "msg": "Type /expose to reveal a players identity",
    194.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is ~Role~!'"
    195.                     }
    196.                 }
    197.             }
    198.         },
    199.         {
    200.             "role": "saiyanvegeta",
    201.             "side": "saiyanmafia",
    202.             "translation": "Super Saiyan Vegeta",
    203.             "help": "Angered by your wife's death, you've decided to search for the Dragon Balls with Nappa and Raditz in order to wish to revive her! Aid them in their quest to destroy everyone with a shared /kill during the night, as well as your old /expose!",
    204.             "actions": {
    205.                 "startup": "team-reveal",
    206.                 "standby": {
    207.                     "expose": {
    208.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    209.                         "msg": "Type /expose to reveal a players identity, and /kill to perform a revealing daykill!",
    210.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is ~Role~!'"
    211.                     },
    212.                 "night": {
    213.                     "kill": {
    214.                         "common": "Team",
    215.                         "priority": 11,
    216.                         "target": "AnyButTeam"
    217.                     },
    218.                     }
    219.                 }
    220.             }
    221.         },
    222.         {
    223.             "role": "Safeguarder",
    224.             "translation": "Korin",
    225.             "side": "village",
    226.             "help": "High atop Korin's Tower You have a supply of Holy Water which can be deadly to people not pure of heart. Use /poison to use it; you can use it once per night, and it takes 2 days to kill, but you only have enough to do this 4 times during the game.",
    227.             "info": "Can safeguard two people during the night. Can poison one person during the night. Sided with the Z-Fighters.",
    228.             "actions": {
    229.                 "night": {                    
    230.                     "poison": {
    231.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    232.                         "common": "Self",
    233.                         "priority": 7,
    234.                         "charges": 4,
    235.                         "count": 2,
    236.                         "limit": 1,
    237.                         "poisonDeadMessage": "Poisoned by Holy Water? Guess you weren't pure of heart."
    238.                     },
    239.                     }
    240.                 }
    241.             }
    242.         },
    243.         {
    244.             "role": "PL",
    245.             "translation": "Bulma",
    246.             "side": "village",
    247.             "help": "Type /distract to make someone unable to use commands for a night! Watch out for Kid Buu. Vegeta is your husband but he is never at home so you can't identify him very well and you are inspected as a civilian.",
    248.             "info": "Can distract one person during the night. Reveals as Civilian. Sided with the Z-Fighters",
    249.             "actions": {
    250.                 "night": {
    251.                     "distract": {
    252.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    253.                         "priority": 1,
    254.                         "distractmsg": "Bulma came to your house last night... you were too busy staring at her to do whatever it is you wanted to do.",
    255.                         "common": "Self"
    256.                     }
    257.                 },
    258.                 "inspect": {
    259.                     "revealAs": "villager"
    260.                 },
    261.                 "onDeath": {
    262.                     "convertRoles": {
    263.                         "Exposer": "saiyanvegeta"
    264.                     },
    265.                     "convertmsg": "Vegeta went Super Saiyan upon the death of his wife!"
    266.                 }
    267.             }
    268.         },
    269.         {
    270.             "role": "inspector",
    271.             "translation": "Gohan",
    272.             "side": "village",
    273.             "help": "Type /inspect at night to gain the knowledge of someone's identity! You are the only person who has ever truly thought of Piccolo as a person so you know his identity from the start.",
    274.             "info": "Can inspect one person during the night. Sided with the Z-Fighters",
    275.             "actions": {
    276.                 "startup": {
    277.                     "revealRole": "BG"
    278.                 },
    279.                 "night": {
    280.                     "inspect": {
    281.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    282.                         "priority": 99,
    283.                         "common": "Self"
    284.                     }
    285.                 }
    286.             }
    287.         },
    288.         {
    289.             "role": "villager",
    290.             "translation": "Civilian",
    291.             "side": "village",
    292.             "help": "You are a civilian...you don't matter at all but you can still vote. Watching the news on the TV is basicly all you can do which gives you a 5% chance of Hax.",
    293.             "info": "Sided with the Z-Fighters.",
    294.             "actions": {
    295.                 "hax": {
    296.                     "kill": {
    297.                         "revealPlayer": 0.05,
    298.                         "revealTeam": 0.05
    299.                     }
    300.                 }
    301.             }
    302.         },
    303.         {
    304.             "role": "Mayor",
    305.             "translation": "Mr. Buu",
    306.             "side": "village",
    307.             "help": "You're Mr. Buu! For some reason, someone gave you 4 extra votes, so your vote counts as 5.",
    308.             "info": "Vote of 5. Sided with the Z-fighters",
    309.             "actions": {
    310.                 "startup": {
    311.                     "revealRole": "Hercule"
    312.                 "vote": 5
    313.             }
    314.         },
    315.         {
    316.             "role": "poisoner2",
    317.             "translation": "Dr. Gero",
    318.             "side": "AndroidMafia",
    319.             "help": "Type /poison to poison somebody which takes 2 days to kill! Goku defeated you and the Red Ribbon Army back when he was young so you created Androids to try to kill him.",
    320.             "info": "Can poison one person during the night. Sided with the Android Mafia.",
    321.             "actions": {
    322.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    323.                 "night": {
    324.                     "poison": {
    325.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    326.                         "priority": 101,
    327.                         "count": 2,
    328.                         "common": "Self",
    329.                         "poisonDeadMessage": "Gero's Poison has activated!"
    330.                     }
    331.                 }
    332.             }
    333.         },
    334.         {
    335.             "role": "MafiaBoss2",
    336.             "translation": "Cell",
    337.             "side": "AndroidMafia",
    338.             "help": "Type /kill at night to kill somebody! You ignore distractions and outspeed Bodyguards. You are a creation of Dr. Gero designed to exterminate first Goku then all life forms.",
    339.             "info": "Can kill one person during the night. Sided with the Android Mafia.",
    340.             "actions": {
    341.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    342.                 "distract": {
    343.                     "mode": "ignore"
    344.                 },
    345.                 "night": {
    346.                     "kill": {
    347.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    348.                         "priority": 1,
    349.                         "common": "Self"
    350.                     }
    351.                 }
    352.             }
    353.         },
    354.         {
    355.             "role": "bomber",
    356.             "translation": "Android #16",
    357.             "side": "AndroidMafia",
    358.             "help": "You are Android #16! You can use the command /Blast to kill someone with your bombing mechanisms, you /safeguard to block poisons and/or Babidi's Magic against a teammate for a night!",
    359.             "actions": {
    360.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    361.                 "night": {
    362.                     "blast": {
    363.                         "command": "kill",
    364.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    365.                         "priority": 11,
    366.                         "common": "Self",
    367.                         "msg": "BOOM!"
    368.                         },
    369.                     "Safeguard": {
    370.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    371.                         "common": "Self",
    372.                         "priority": 2
    373.                     }
    374.                 }
    375.             }
    376.         },
    377.         {
    378.             "role": "BG2",
    379.             "translation": "Android #18",
    380.             "side": "AndroidMafia",
    381.             "help": "Type /protect at night to protect an ally You were created by Dr. Gero but ... you hate him. You are willing to remain on his team ... For now.",
    382.             "info": "Can protect one person during the night. Can kill one person during the night (shared with teammate). Sided with the Android Mafia.",
    383.             "actions": {
    384.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    385.                 "night": {
    386.                     "protect": {
    387.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    388.                         "priority": 3,
    389.                         "common": "Team"
    390.                     }
    391.                 }
    392.             }
    393.         },
    394.         {
    395.             "role": "Inspector2",
    396.             "translation": "Android #17",
    397.             "side": "AndroidMafia",
    398.             "help": "Type /inspect to learn what a person's role is! You were created by Dr. Gero but ... you hate him. But you are willing to remain on his team ... For now.",
    399.             "info": "Can inspect one person during the night. Can kill one person during the night (shared with team mate). Sided with the Android Mafia",
    400.             "actions": {
    401.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    402.                 "night": {
    403.                     "inspect": {
    404.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    405.                         "priority": 100,
    406.                         "common": "Team"
    407.                     }
    408.                 }
    409.             }
    410.         },
    411.         {
    412.             "role": "MafiaBoss1",
    413.             "translation": "Frieza",
    414.             "side": "FriezaMafia",
    415.             "help": "You are the destroyer of galaxies, but that would be unfair, so I had to stick to giving you a non-revealing daykill with /kill.",
    416.             "info": "Can kill one person during standby (non-revealing). Sided with Frieza",
    417.             "actions": {
    418.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    419.                 "standby": {
    420.                     "kill": {
    421.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    422.                         "msg": "type /kill to Kill any player!",
    423.                         "killmsg": "Frieza fired a Death Beam at ~Target~ who died instantly!"
    424.                     }
    425.                 }
    426.             }
    427.         },
    428.         {
    429.             "role": "Evader1",
    430.             "translation": "King Cold",
    431.             "side": "FriezaMafia",
    432.             "help": "You have no action but you have evade night kills! You are Frieza's father and even more powerful but you prefer to not use your power and instead you use authority so you can use your 1 time /poison to poison somebody and it takes 2 nights to kill.",
    433.             "info": "Can evade nightkills. Sided with Frieza.",
    434.             "actions": {
    435.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    436.                 "kill": {
    437.                     "mode": "ignore"
    438.                 },
    439.                 "night": {
    440.                     "poison": {
    441.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    442.                         "common": "Self",
    443.                         "priority": 12,
    444.                         "charges": 1,
    445.                         "count": 2
    446.                     }
    447.                 }
    448.             }
    449.         },
    450.         {
    451.             "role": "Mafia1",
    452.             "translation": "Cooler",
    453.             "side": "FriezaMafia",
    454.             "help": "Prove that you are stronger than your brother Frieza! Type /kill to kill.",
    455.             "info": "Can kill one person during the night. Sided with Frieza.",
    456.             "actions": {
    457.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    458.                 "night": {
    459.                     "kill": {
    460.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    461.                         "common": "Self",
    462.                         "priority": 3
    463.                     }
    464.                 }
    465.             }
    466.         },
    467.         {
    468.             "role": "Safeguard1",
    469.             "translation": "Zarbon",
    470.             "side": "FriezaMafia",
    471.             "help": "Frieza is your king; protect him with /Protect! You don't know how you came to be Frieza's servant but you are, and if you stop you'll be killed by his hand.",
    472.             "info": "Can protect one person during the night. Sided with Frieza.",
    473.             "actions": {
    474.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    475.                 "night": {
    476.                     "protect": {
    477.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    478.                         "common": "Self",
    479.                         "priority": 2
    480.                     }
    481.                 }
    482.             }
    483.         },
    484.         {
    485.             "role": "FakeExposer3",
    486.             "translation": "Kid Buu",
    487.             "side": "BuuMafia",
    488.             "help": "You can expose someone in the day... impersonating Vegeta! This can be helpful to draw attention away from yourself. You are the pure evil form of Mr. Buu. Use /expose or /frieza, /shenron, /goku, /vegeta, /piccolo, /gero, /civilian, /broly, /nappa, and /buu [name] to expose them as those roles. These all have a 5% chance of exposing you. You can /kill every other night phase, too!",
    489.             "info": "Can expose or fake expose a player during standby. Can kill every other night. Sided with the Buu Mafia.",
    490.             "actions": {
    491.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    492.                 "standby": {
    493.                     "cell": {
    494.                         "command": "expose",
    495.                         "msg": "Type /expose to expose someone. You can also use /cell to expose as Cell, /frieza for Frieza, /shenron, /goku, /vegeta, /piccolo, /nappa, /broly, /gero, /civilian, and /buu for Kid Buu!",
    496.                         "target": "Any",
    497.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Cell!'",
    498.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    499.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    500.                     },
    501.                     "expose": {
    502.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is ~Role~!'",
    503.                         "target": "Any",
    504.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    505.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    506.                     },
    507.                     "frieza": {
    508.                         "command": "expose",
    509.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Frieza!'",
    510.                         "target": "Any",
    511.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    512.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    513.                     },
    514.                     "vegeta": {
    515.                         "command": "expose",
    516.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Vegeta!'",
    517.                         "target": "Any",
    518.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    519.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    520.                     },
    521.                     "piccolo": {
    522.                         "command": "expose",
    523.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Piccolo!'",
    524.                         "target": "Any",
    525.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    526.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    527.                     },
    528.                     "nappa": {
    529.                         "command": "expose",
    530.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Nappa!'",
    531.                         "target": "Any",
    532.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    533.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    534.                     },
    535.                     "gero": {
    536.                         "command": "expose",
    537.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Dr. Gero!'",
    538.                         "target": "Any",
    539.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    540.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    541.                     },
    542.                     "civilian": {
    543.                         "command": "expose",
    544.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Civilian!'",
    545.                         "target": "Any",
    546.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    547.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    548.                     },
    549.                     "buu": {
    550.                         "command": "expose",
    551.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Kid Buu!'",
    552.                         "target": "Any",
    553.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    554.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    555.                     },
    556.                     "broly": {
    557.                         "command": "expose",
    558.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Broly!'",
    559.                         "target": "Any",
    560.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    561.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    562.                     },
    563.                     "goku": {
    564.                         "command": "expose",
    565.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Goku!'",
    566.                         "target": "Any",
    567.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    568.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    569.                     },
    570.                     "shenron": {
    571.                         "command": "expose",
    572.                         "exposemsg": "Vegeta, Prince of Saiyans, yelled '~Target~ is Shenron!'",
    573.                         "target": "Any",
    574.                         "revealChance": 0.05,
    575.                         "revealmsg": "Kid Buu raised his power level too high while yelling and was revealed to be ~Self~!"
    576.                     }
    577.                 },
    578.                 "night": {
    579.                     "kill": {
    580.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    581.                         "priority": 19,
    582.                         "common": "Self",
    583.                         "msg": "Kid Buu turned you into chocolate.",
    584.                         "recharge": 2
    585.                     }
    586.                 }
    587.             }
    588.         },
    589.         {
    590.             "role": "Mayor3",
    591.             "translation": "Demon King Dabara",
    592.             "side": "BuuMafia",
    593.             "help": "You don't get any actions, because your team is already powerful... but you do get 10 votes!",
    594.             "info": "Vote of 10. Sided with the Buu Mafia.",
    595.             "actions": {
    596.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    597.                 "vote": 10
    598.             }
    599.         },
    600.         {
    601.             "role": "Morpher3",
    602.             "translation": "Babidi",
    603.             "side": "BuuMafia",
    604.             "help": "Type /morph [name] to make anybody (that isn't already) your slave :P With a 50% chance of fail chance however.",
    605.             "info": "Can convert one player during the night (50% success rate). Sided with the Buu Mafia.",
    606.             "actions": {
    607.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    608.                 "night": {
    609.                     "morph": {
    610.                         "command": "convert",
    611.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    612.                         "common": "Self",
    613.                         "priority": 999,
    614.                         "newRole": "Slave",
    615.                         "silent": true,
    616.                         "failChance": 0.5
    617.                     }
    618.                 }
    619.             }
    620.         },
    621.         {
    622.             "role": "Slave",
    623.             "translation": "Babidi Slave",
    624.             "side": "BuuMafia",
    625.             "help": "Babidi transformed you, and now you can do.. nothing. At all. But, if anyone tries to kill you during the day, you kill them too!",
    626.             "info": "you kill a player that daykills you sided with Buu Mafia",
    627.             "actions": {
    628.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    629.                 "daykill": "bomb",
    630.                 "daykillrevengemsg": "~Target~ was foolish enough to target a Babidi slave, who blew up."
    631.             }
    632.         },
    633.         {
    634.             "role": "Hercule",
    635.             "translation": "Village",
    636.             "side": "Hercule",
    637.             "help": "You have a Day /reveal because you are boastful and a self-protect because you hide a lot. You win the game with Buu or the Z-Fighters!",
    638.             "info": "Vote of 2. Wins with Z-Fighters or Buu mafia. can /reveal and /protect himself.",
    639.             "actions": {
    640.                 "startup": {
    641.                     "revealRole": "Mayor"
    642.                 "vote": 2,
    643.                 "standby": {
    644.                     "reveal": {
    645.                         "revealmsg": "Hercule stubbed his toe and said, 'Curse you wall!' and was revealed to be ~Self~."
    646.                     }
    647.                 },
    648.                 "night": {
    649.                     "protect": {
    650.                         "target": "OnlySelf",
    651.                         "priority": 3,
    652.                         "common": "Self"
    653.                     }
    654.                 }
    655.             }
    656.         },
    657.         {
    658.             "role": "Broly",
    659.             "side": "legend",
    660.             "translation": "Broly",
    661.             "help": "You're the legendary Super Saiyan, Broly. For the first four turns, you can't do anything except try to knock people out with your 3 votes and avoid some nightkills. After 4 days, you'll be able to daykill 3 times!",
    662.             "actions": {
    663.                 "kill": {
    664.                     "mode": {
    665.                         "evadeChance": 0.3
    666.                     }
    667.                 },
    668.                 "vote": 3,
    669.                 "initialCondition": {
    670.                     "curse": {
    671.                         "cursedRole": "Broly2",
    672.                         "curseCount": 4,
    673.                         "curseConvertMessage": "The Legendary Super Saiyan, Broly, has been awakened."
    674.                     }
    675.                 }
    676.             }
    677.         },
    678.         {
    679.             "role": "Broly2",
    680.             "side": "legend",
    681.             "translation": "Awakened Broly",
    682.             "help": "Now awakened and empowered by your intense hatred for Goku (Kakarot), you can kill twice at night /kill wreak havoc with kill (/blast) during the standby! These will reveal you.",
    683.             "actions": {
    684.                 "standby": {
    685.                     "blast": {
    686.                         "command": "kill",
    687.                         "limit": 1,
    688.                         "target": "AnyButSelf",
    689.                         "msg": "You can now kill up to three times with /blast.",
    690.                         "killmsg": "'KAKAROT!!' Broly (~Player~)shouted as he send a massive ball of energy at ~Target~, who stood no chance against the Legendary Super Saiyan. ~Target~ disintegrated completely."
    691.                 "night"
    692.                     "kill": {
    693.                         "limit": 2,
    694.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    695.                         "priority": 3,
    696.                         "common": "Self
    697.                         }
    698.                     }
    699.                 }
    700.             }
    701.         },
    702.         {
    703.             "role": "raditz",
    704.             "translation": "Raditz",
    705.             "side": "saiyanmafia",
    706.             "help": "You're Raditz, the Saiyan warrior who is the older brother of Goku. With your scouter, you can see if someone is doing something during the night with /scout. You can't be daykilled and you share a kill during the night with Nappa.",
    707.             "actions": {
    708.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    709.                 "night": {
    710.                     "scout": {
    711.                         "command": "stalk",
    712.                         "target": "AnyButTeam",
    713.                         "priority": 99999,
    714.                         "common": "Self"
    715.                     },
    716.                     "kill": {
    717.                         "common": "Team",
    718.                         "priority": 11,
    719.                         "target": "AnyButTeam"
    720.                     }
    721.                 },
    722.                 "daykill": "evade"
    723.             }
    724.         },
    725.         {
    726.             "role": "Turles",
    727.             "side": "saiyanmafia",
    728.             "help": "You are the mighty Turles you share a kill with your partners with /kill you may also use /fruit to eat the Fruit of the tree of might and be immune to all attacking commands (Morph,kill,poison) for the night, or let a partner eat the fruit",
    729.              "info": "Kills (Shared) sided with Saiyan Mafia can /fruit (Protect + Safeguard) once per night ",
    730.              "actions": {
    731.                 "startup": "team-reveal",
    732.                 "night": {
    733.                     "kill": {
    734.                         "common": "Team",
    735.                         "priority": 11,
    736.                         "target": "AnyButTeam"
    737.             "Fruit": {
    738.                         "command": [
    739.         "protect",
    740.         "safeguard",   
    741.         ],
    742.          "target": "Any",
    743.                            "common": "Self",
    744.                            "priority": 2
    745.                     }
    746.     }
    747.     }
    748.     }
    749.                 },                         
    750.                     {,
    751.                
    752.             "role": "nappa",
    753.             "side": "saiyanmafia",
    754.             "translation": "Nappa",
    755.             "help": "You're Nappa, the elite Saiyan warrior! You've been defeated several times by Goku, so you can /kill (shared) during the night and then /kill2 every other night to get revenge!",
    756.             "actions": {
    757.                 "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles",
    758.                 "night": {
    759.                     "kill": {
    760.                         "common": "Team",
    761.                         "priority": 11,
    762.                         "target": "AnyButTeam"
    763.                     },
    764.                     "kill2": {
    765.                         "command": "kill",
    766.                         "recharge": 2,
    767.                         "common": "Self",
    768.                         "priority": 11,
    769.                         "target": "AnyButTeam"
    770.                     }
    771.                 }
    772.             }
    773.         }
    774.     ],
    775.     "roles1": [
    776.         "Samurai1",
    777.         "Inspector2",
    778.         "villager",
    779.         "Morpher3",
    780.         "BG",
    781.         "poisoner2",
    782.         "inspector",
    783.         "villager",
    784.         "villager",
    785.         "PL",
    786.         "villager",
    787.         "Mayor3",
    788.         "BG2",
    789.         "MafiaBoss2"
    790.     ],
    791.     "roles2": [
    792.         "Samurai1",
    793.         "Inspector2",
    794.         "Exposer",
    795.         "villager",
    796.         "FakeExposer3",
    797.         "Morpher3",
    798.         "Turles",
    799.         "Bomber",
    800.         "BG2a",
    801.         "poisoner2",
    802.         "villager",
    803.         "PL",
    804.         "villager",
    805.         "Mayor3",
    806.         "BG2",
    807.         "MafiaBoss2",
    808.         "raditz",
    809.         "Broly",
    810.         "nappa",
    811.         "MafiaBoss1",
    812.         "villager",
    813.         "Mafia1"
    814.     ],
    815.     "roles3": [
    816.         "Samurai",
    817.         "Hax",
    818.         "Inspector2",
    819.         "Exposer",
    820.         "villager",
    821.         "FakeExposer3",
    822.         "BG2a",
    823.         "poisoner2",
    824.         "BG2",
    825.         "PL",
    826.         "Safeguarder",
    827.         "inspector",
    828.         "villager",
    829.         "Mayor",
    830.         "Morpher3",
    831.         "villager",
    832.         "Evader1",
    833.         "MafiaBoss1",
    834.         "Broly",
    835.         "Hercule",
    836.         "raditz",
    837.         "nappa",
    838.         "MafiaBoss2",
    839.         "Mafia1",
    840.         "Safeguard1",
    841.         "villager",
    842.         "Mayor3",
    843.         "villager",
    844.         "villager"
    845.     ],
    846.     "villageCantLoseRoles": [
    847.         "Samurai",
    848.         "Mayor",
    849.         "SuperSamurai",
    850.         "Safeguarder",
    851.         "Samurai1",
    852.         "hercule"
    853.     ],
    854.     "killmsg": "+King Yemna:~Player~ (~Role~) Died!",
    855.     "killusermsg": "You Died!"
    856. }[/hide]
    857.  
    Some pretty Dramatic Changes I must say

    Adds:
    Turles: Shares kills with Saiyans + /fruit which is BG + SG
    Side Note: Upgraded Saiyans reveal to Startup-WITH-ROLES
    Piccolo: Made a Double BG + SG Meaning Village now has a fighting chance against Babidi now that Goku and Gohan can Safely claim (THIS is DRAMATIC)
    Android 16: given Safeguard bomb upgraded to kill
    Hercule: Only Village, Startup on Mr. Buu (Easier to connect)

    Subtractions:
    Shenron: Removed
    Android 18 & 17: No longer kill 16 does that himself
    Korin: Safeguard removed Poison Fixed
    SS Vegeta: Daykill debuffed into a nightkill
    Broly: 2 Daykills removed replaced by two nightkills with great priority


    Personally I think these Changes are very Dramatic
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2013
  22. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    I like the changes mostly because you did exactly as I said. :) Now all you have to do is have other people tell you their opinions and you are are your way.
     
  23. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    I appreciate the offer Mewtwo, but I will have to decline as I'm strapped for time.

    I already manage ROTK and Ocean, plus I've got QC work, a few themes in the works, and the Wiki is about to be reopened to finish up the Mafia section. In addition i've got 18 credit hours of school and work. (12-24 hours a week depending whats going on). I end up doing homework during work and a lot of mafia/wiki stuff during school.

    The Mafia wiki is almost finished, except for all the theme guides, which I will be addressing soon after, probably in a more controlled format. But yeah, as you see, I've got a lot to do already.

    EDIT: Also, "whatever" on the changes. Just make sure if stuff comes up we get it addressed much quicker.
     
  24. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    ok anything else
     
  25. Water

    Water Well Respected and Exceptionally Handsome User Forum Moderator Channel Leader Forum Moderator Channel Leader

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    Locked because this was resubmitted for review.

    All comments should go here.
     
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