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Discussion in 'Theme Development' started by MewtwoHidden, Dec 16, 2012.

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  1. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    Wait, what? Isn't count 1 the default poison?
     
  2. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    Yeah I'm pretty sure 1 is default not 2
     
  3. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    No, default is 2. You can check Caterpie's code, where Weedle's poison have Count: 3 (so it takes 2 nights to kill).
     
  4. MewtwoHidden

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    Oh well 1 day is probably going to be required to keep Dr. Gero from being UP
     
  5. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    Fine, believe Rice e.o

    Well, after all those changes made, after this whole afternoon discussing the changes, I believe I can approve [8] this theme. There are still some flavour messages that could be improved and Grammar issues (you'd ask some Grammar Nazi to fix things for you *looks at Samph and Fuzzy*).
     
  6. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    OK So how do I Upload this?
     
  7. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    ask an MA to do this
     
  8. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    I added Saiyan Mafia like you asked, as well as making Vegeta defect to them when Bulma dies, which adds a little bit of chance to the theme:
    ***************************************************************************************
    (21:28:09) Times Up! :
    (21:28:09) +King Yemna:Primeape (Bulma) Died!
    (21:28:09) Vegeta went Super Saiyan upon the death of his wife!
    (21:28:09) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:28:09) Current Roles: Babidi, Civilian, Civilian, Demon King Dabara, Goku, Piccolo, Super Saiyan Vegeta.
    (21:28:09) Current Players: BaceBubs, Hidden, Kurapika, McStarley, Random Kid, Rehx, Sky Sentinel.
    (21:28:09) Current Team: Civilian, Civilian, Goku, Piccolo
    (21:28:09) Time: Day 3
    (21:28:09) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:28:09) Type /kill [name] to kill anybody. Hurry!
    (21:28:09) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:28:13) Sky Sentinel: SHIT.
    (21:28:15) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:28:15) ±Game: Rehx fired a Galick Gun at Sky Sentinel who evaporated on contact!
    (21:28:15) +King Yemna:Sky Sentinel (Goku) Died!
    (21:28:15) ***************************************************************************************
     
  9. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    People were already complaining about the day actions and you added another? I don't think that is the right way to go. While Day actions are awesome having to many is a bad thing.
     
  10. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    ^This. Day Actions are only awesome when they are valuable. If everyone gets a day action, then none of them will be awesome.
     
  11. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    I dunno, they're only under certain circumstances. There's Vegeta's expose, Kid Buu's expose, and Goku's kill. Every other day Kid Buu can kill, and after he defects Vegeta can. And then Vegeta most likely gets lynched. In big games there's Cell (which wasn't my idea).
    Kid Buu needs a way to win alone.
    Okay.
    Daykill every other day.
    Vegeta needs to be less ...lame.
    Okay.
    Goes bad when Bulma dies. Gets a daykill.

    I guess we should discuss switching Kid Buu's kill to at night, mewtw0, for starters-- and maybe get rid of cell's daykill, as he already has a prio kill and PLENTY of teammates?
     
  12. MewtwoHidden

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    Well I don't know I guess take away Cell's Daykill and Make Kid Buu Kill At night I will see how that goes
     
  13. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    Broly has 3 Daykills, really? You have to many day actions in this theme. Way to many. I know I have said this already but you still need to tone it down greatly since I have seen this role. I know Broly is by himself but 3 daykills isn't the way to go in my opinion.

    I know you are trying to keep to the integrity of the theme but it isn't working. Also, your chaos thing is misleading because it says at max 4 day kills when that is entirely not true. It is 6 or 7.
     
  14. MewtwoHidden

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    Ok Since me and Sky are making tons of changes (Several a day) I have removed the Chaos list
    And BeastCharizard does anybody complain that Black Knight has 5 PRIORITY kills I think that 3 daykills after night 4 or 5 (We are dbating this over)
    And I have only seen Broly SURVIVE until he gets daykills ONCE
     
  15. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    Does Black Knights kills spam the channel? No. It is not so much the kills as it is the messages that come with the kills. Imagine every day actions happening in the same day. That would be total chaos and no one would be able to keep up. At least the BK doesn't spam the channel with their kills. I am not saying Broly is OP because if I did that would be dumb.
     
  16. MewtwoHidden

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    Ok Fine I'll just give him (3 or 4 I'm not certain) Max Prio Kills) Ok?
     
  17. Sky Sentinel

    Sky Sentinel You see?

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    he's broly though
     
  18. MewtwoHidden

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  19. MewtwoHidden

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    Wait I know What I will Do I will put it up to Popular vote
    Whoever hate Broly have 4 Max Priority Night kills say no
    Whoever have Broly have 3 daykills say yes
     
  20. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    If you follow that logic, than you should make Bulma unable to distract anyone and make characters stronger than Piccolo being able to bypass his protection.
    Let's not have unbalanced themes only to make the flavour accurate.
     
  21. Sky Sentinel

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    It was a half joke-- but Broly's not UP/OP
     
  22. GreenWater10

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    I'm confused as to how you chose the failChance for Babidi. The only two times I played DBZ, I was Babidi twice, and my team won twice. There's nothing wrong with winning but I feel like 50% is too high of a chance for a conversion, especially if no one hits anyone on my team, or when the slaves are bombs. I'm not sure if this team is overpowered, but you might want to take a look at this team.
     
  23. MewtwoHidden

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    Well It is dependant on he skill level really I did a test of 10 games
    Buu won 3
    Village won 3
    Android won 2
    Frieza won 2
    Seems pretty even :C and luck plays a major role also :)
     
  24. Fegelein

    Fegelein The Mechanic

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    This theme has been disabled due to the sheer amount of things happening during the daytime. In order for it to be enabled again, the exposes and daykills must be toned down in smaller games.
     
  25. Tesla Elesa

    Tesla Elesa Almost Quality

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    I feel like the only proper way to do a DBZ theme is to make it Daypix. I guess this works though. I haven't played it, but from what Mewtwo said, it seems fairly balanced. Maybe shift around the roles list in smaller games, and keep the larger games the same.
     
  26. GreenWater10

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    or set min players to a higher number
     
  27. MewtwoHidden

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    Ok I'm agreeing with Tesla Me and Sky will take ONE more try at it and if it doesn't work then mafia will be - a theme >:'(
     
  28. Sky Sentinel

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    okay, we're taking kid buu and vegeta out of smaller games (probably replacing with gohan) and also moving kid buu's kill to the night.

    also i just realized, lolheyrabies
    Code (text):
    1. "kill": {
    2. "target": "AnyButTeam",
    3. "msg": "/kill now. You won't be revealed and can do it 3 times. Have fun.",
    4. "killmsg": "~Target~ was a victim of the Rabies...",
    5. "limit": 3
    6.  
     
  29. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Babidi needs a convert message. You can't tell when he converts and when he doesn't, unless you pay VERY close attention
     
  30. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Also:

    (12:11:29) ±Game: Something about poison?
    (12:11:29) +King Yemna:Fuzzysqurl (Civilian) Died!
     
  31. Water

    Water Well Respected and Exceptionally Handsome User Forum Moderator Channel Leader Forum Moderator Channel Leader

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    (00:41:48) ±Murkrow: theme dbz removed.

    Was removed from the server because QC deemed it to be of too low quality. If you have any ideas about how to improve this theme please post them here.
     
  32. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    Great ... too little quality, if it is of such little quality then tell me what is needed or I'll put it up for adoption because I have no scripter right now so I can't do anything if I tried Dx
     
  33. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    As I have said you have to many day killers. There are to many day actions in general. There is to much going on to fast. I understand trying to stick to the anime as much as possible but you have to think about balance before flavor.
     
  34. MewtwoHidden

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    as i have said the win:loss ratio of the theme is very much equal, I've seen each side win many and many times and as I've said its up for adoption if the specific person i've pmed says no ...
     
  35. MewtwoHidden

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    Well again DBZ IS UP FOR ADOPTION IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO IT BETTER THAN ME WHILE STICKING TO THE HEART OF THE THEME THEN PM ME
     
  36. MewtwoHidden

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    Tesla is now acting owner of DBZ
     
  37. Princess Luna

    Princess Luna Resident Pegasister

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    If this and rotom etc were removed for too many Daykills
    HOW IN THE HELL DID CASTLE GET ON
     
  38. MewtwoHidden

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    :c I'm not going to get into this big ol' war but I could understand there being too many "/kills" but if that isn't the case than I do not understand o-o DBZ is balanced in terms of teams and requires strategy but just has a slight level of Unpredictability that is very much present in all themes is it not?
     
  39. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Oh, it wasn't? You seem to know the actual reason, so please tells us why it was removed, since I heard all kind of lame excuses about its removal (including stuff like a 15kb file being too much for the server), but no one ever told me any official reason.

    On a side note, as much as I defended Castle when it was up to review, I don't think it deserves to be on the server right now. First version and the first updates were OK, but basically no work was done to that theme after that even with the constants complaints about the theme. This theme, on another side, got removed without giving anyone a chance to fix any possible issue. Heck, I can't even remember any issue being stated while the theme was up.
     
  40. Princess Luna

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    precisely this theme was decent unique and balanced somewhat no one team had an an advantage over the other and to call it unbalanced is laughable IMO however if you do think its unbalanced Give them a chance to fix it before removing it completely. Furthermore i know that the creator of this theme was banned and Tesla knows nothing about DBZ and i cant code for Shiz so what will we do about the theme if we want it back?
     
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