He says you need a quarter (1.25 round down to 1! :D) of approves then we can playtest. btw first post on page 2 = wee
Just some thoughts. Random Rainbow really seems like a fun role. Usually a Mayor acts kind of like a last second bunker against bad lynches and the huge swing that Cookies and Cream gets when Fudge is lynched just seems kind of like you are playing with fire since you won't know what your vote does until a lynch has already passed. Speaking of Mayors peppermint seems pretty underpowered with the huge boost Cookies and Cream can get as well as all the vote shields and Rocky Road's 25 vote. The flavor is cute but I think people might have a bit of trouble picking it up initially, but there is a lot of creativity in this and I'd definitely need to actually playtest this before I could really comment on the balance.
Well, I guess Cookies n' Cream IS random, but that's the whole point -- to make someone think twice on whether to vote or not. Now, I know you say Peppermint's 1.1 votes is awkward and UP, and that's why I wanted to make Coconut (4 votes), but I was afraid of unbalancing. Peppermint's extra 0.1 vote is more like a, say, last resort for voting those killers 1 on 1. And, argh, are all QCs saying we should test everything? q_q
Yes all the QC say this theme needs to be tested for balance. Overall there are roles where you can clearly see that they were meant to do something e.g French Vanilla and most village roles and then those really odd-ball came-out-of-nowhere roles like Rainbow and Lil' Gum. This is definitely the kind of theme that will have trouble being picked up. It's hard to grasp and remember what each role does. Can't really make a clear decision on this until it's tested.
I guess the threat on complaining to Steel about your bad customer service, calling you a lazy pig and couch potato finally got you to review the theme despite already reading the theme when I posted, huh? Seriously. Anyway, arent oddball roles good? Also, we need 1 approval before we cantest this. However, you guys all say that we need to test this before you can approve. I have nothing to say, except that contradiction much?
For now, we can test it whenever QC members think it is necessary or when the theme is very close to be accepted. Seems like we can test without the approvals to me.
I might be completely wrong here but I was under the impression that a theme needs 9 approvals now to get approved. Which would mean a quarter would 2 approvals. If it is decided to test it I would love to be there. :)
After test running: this was actually the second test, but it was the most relevant Spoiler (23:47:07) Hey Day: Flashing myself :D (23:47:12) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:47:12) Times Up! : (23:47:12) The Roles have been Decided! : (23:47:12) ±Game: You are a Peppermint! (23:47:12) ±Game: You're the Peppermint! Filled with choco bits, you can distract another ice cream with /distract [name], and your choco bits give you a vote of 1.1 to help yourself in desperate situations! (23:47:12) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Electric Lime, Fudge, Peppermint, Rainbow, Super Sundae, Vanilla, Vanilla. (23:47:12) Current Players: BeastCharizard, Bob, Fuzzysqurl, Hey Day, MeowMix, RiceKirby, Zzyzx Road, afkyucumber, jalmont. (23:47:12) Current Team: Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint, Vanilla, Vanilla (23:47:12) Time: Night (23:47:12) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! : (23:47:12) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:47:12) MeowMix: I forgot to tab (23:47:12) afkyucumber: afkyucumber (23:47:21) afkyucumber: dat vannila (23:47:22) Sandusky joined the channel. (23:47:26) Fuzzysqurl: we got 9 now (23:47:28) ±Game: You have chosen to distract MeowMix! (23:47:28) Nainil: The command joni doesn't exist (23:47:29) Nainil: fuuuuuu (23:47:32) RiceKirby: A+++ (23:47:32) Fuzzysqurl: versus 8 before (23:47:35) Bob won against Xclus|Zoro. (23:47:35) MeowMix: good old joni (23:47:36) Zzyzx Road: lol (23:47:37) MeowMix: she is amazing (23:47:39) Hey Day: whoa whoa whoa (23:47:40) Zzyzx Road: you can end and start once again (23:47:42) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:47:42) Times Up! : (23:47:42) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, Fuzzysqurl the Vanilla ice cream melted. (23:47:42) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:47:42) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Electric Lime, Fudge, Peppermint, Rainbow, Super Sundae, Vanilla. (23:47:42) Current Players: BeastCharizard, Bob, Hey Day, MeowMix, RiceKirby, Zzyzx Road, afkyucumber, jalmont. (23:47:42) Current Team: Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint, Vanilla (23:47:42) Time: Day (23:47:42) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:47:42) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:47:45) Hey Day: problem with rainbow (23:47:48) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:47:48) ±Game: SUNDAE IN YOUR FACE! Argh! Hey Day was surprised, and his face is covered in Sundae! Wow! (23:47:48) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, Hey Day the Rainbow ice cream melted. (23:47:48) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:47:51) MeowMix: lmao (23:47:51) Bob: Lol (23:47:54) Bob: 2nd time in a roy (23:47:56) MeowMix: good job sundae (23:47:57) Bob: row* (23:48:00) Bob: d1'd (23:48:00) jalmont: myrole (23:48:03) jalmont: wow (23:48:07) Battle between Xclus|Zoro and Bob started. (23:48:07) BeastCharizard: I had no clue whay my command did. (23:48:12) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:48:12) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Electric Lime, Fudge, Peppermint, Super Sundae, Vanilla. (23:48:12) Current Players: BeastCharizard, Bob, MeowMix, RiceKirby, Zzyzx Road, afkyucumber, jalmont. (23:48:12) Current Team: Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint, Vanilla (23:48:12) Time: Day (23:48:12) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (23:48:12) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:48:15) Xclus|Zoro won against Bob. (23:48:16) jalmont: what does my role do (23:48:17) RiceKirby: Ricerand (23:48:18) jalmont: i don't know (23:48:20) ±Game:RiceKirby voted for BeastCharizard! (23:48:24) ±Game:MeowMix voted for BeastCharizard! (23:48:25) ±Game:BeastCharizard voted for RiceKirby! (23:48:26) Battle between Xclus|Zoro and Bob started. (23:48:27) MeowMix: I'll allow it (23:48:28) BeastCharizard: i am inspectory (23:48:28) jalmont: hmm (23:48:33) Zzyzx Road: (23:48) Hey Day: (21:47:02) Hey Day: problem with rainbow (23:48:33) Zzyzx Road: (23:48) Hey Day: the /help command (23:48:33) Zzyzx Road: (23:48) Hey Day: just uses the actual help command (23:48:34) RiceKirby: lol lies (23:48:35) ±Game:Bob voted for RiceKirby! (23:48:36) BeastCharizard: aka fudge (23:48:37) Bob: tying (23:48:37) Zzyzx Road: to document in the logs (23:48:42) jalmont: im staying out of this (23:48:43) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:48:43) Times Up! : (23:48:43) No one was voted off! : (23:48:43) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:48:43) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Electric Lime, Fudge, Peppermint, Super Sundae, Vanilla. (23:48:43) Current Players: BeastCharizard, Bob, MeowMix, RiceKirby, Zzyzx Road, afkyucumber, jalmont. (23:48:43) Current Team: Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint, Vanilla (23:48:43) Time: Night (23:48:43) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! : (23:48:43) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:48:55) RiceKirby: BG on me (23:48:58) ±Game: You have chosen to distract MeowMix! (23:49:00) RiceKirby: I know real Inspector (23:49:05) Bob won against Xclus|Zoro. (23:49:13) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:49:13) Times Up! : (23:49:13) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, afkyucumber the Vanilla ice cream melted. (23:49:13) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:49:13) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Electric Lime, Fudge, Peppermint, Super Sundae. (23:49:13) Current Players: BeastCharizard, Bob, MeowMix, RiceKirby, Zzyzx Road, jalmont. (23:49:13) Current Team: Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint (23:49:13) Time: Day (23:49:13) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:49:13) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:49:16) Battle between Xclus|Zoro and Bob started. (23:49:20) BeastCharizard: rice is black cherry (23:49:24) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:49:24) ±Game: SUNDAE IN YOUR FACE! Argh! RiceKirby was surprised, and his face is covered in Sundae! Wow! (23:49:24) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, RiceKirby the Black Cherry ice cream melted. (23:49:24) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:49:27) Zzyzx Road: lol (23:49:29) MeowMix: thanks sundae (23:49:30) Li Q. Assir: Sorry for afk... has something major happened? (23:49:32) Bob: lol (23:49:40) BeastCharizard: believe me now? (23:49:44) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:49:44) Current Roles: Chocolate, Electric Lime, Fudge, Peppermint, Super Sundae. (23:49:44) Current Players: BeastCharizard, Bob, MeowMix, Zzyzx Road, jalmont. (23:49:44) Current Team: Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint (23:49:44) Time: Day (23:49:44) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (23:49:44) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:49:46) jalmont: wow (23:49:53) jalmont: NOT OUR BLACK CHERRY (23:49:57) jalmont: what's black cherry lol (23:50:01) MeowMix: mafia (23:50:02) Zzyzx Road: it's a cherry (23:50:08) Zzyzx Road: that went black (23:50:09) MeowMix: that grew up in the hood (23:50:12) Zzyzx Road: LOL (23:50:12) jalmont: oh (23:50:14) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:50:14) Times Up! : (23:50:14) No one was voted off! : (23:50:14) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:50:14) Current Roles: Chocolate, Electric Lime, Fudge, Peppermint, Super Sundae. (23:50:14) Current Players: BeastCharizard, Bob, MeowMix, Zzyzx Road, jalmont. (23:50:14) Current Team: Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint (23:50:14) Time: Night (23:50:14) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! : (23:50:14) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:50:15) BeastCharizard: lol (23:50:16) jalmont: like a gangsta (23:50:28) Zzyzx Road: more like bronx cherr (23:50:30) Zzyzx Road: y (23:50:37) ±Game: You have chosen to distract MeowMix! (23:50:45) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:50:45) Times Up! : (23:50:45) No one died! : (23:50:45) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:50:45) Current Roles: Chocolate, Electric Lime, Fudge, Peppermint, Super Sundae. (23:50:45) Current Players: BeastCharizard, Bob, MeowMix, Zzyzx Road, jalmont. (23:50:45) Current Team: Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint (23:50:45) Time: Day (23:50:45) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:50:45) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:50:48) BeastCharizard: meow is lime (23:50:50) MeowMix: okay (23:50:52) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:50:52) ±Game: SUNDAE IN YOUR FACE! Argh! BeastCharizard was surprised, and his face is covered in Sundae! Wow! (23:50:52) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, BeastCharizard the Fudge ice cream melted. (23:50:52) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:50:55) MeowMix: so there is a problem (23:50:57) Zzyzx Road: oh fudge (23:51:05) jalmont: guys (23:51:06) MeowMix: peppermint apparently gets higher prio than I do (23:51:09) jalmont: how do i check what roles are (23:51:14) Zzyzx Road: not really (23:51:15) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:51:15) Current Roles: Chocolate, Electric Lime, Peppermint, Super Sundae. (23:51:15) Current Players: Bob, MeowMix, Zzyzx Road, jalmont. (23:51:15) Current Team: Chocolate, Peppermint (23:51:15) Time: Day (23:51:15) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (23:51:15) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:51:16) MeowMix: ./roles (23:51:19) Zzyzx Road: I played as black cherry and killed first (23:51:22) ±Game:Bob voted for MeowMix! (23:51:26) MeowMix: uhh (23:51:27) ±Game:Zzyzx Road voted for MeowMix! (23:51:28) MeowMix: if you vote me you lose (23:51:29) MeowMix: js (23:51:32) jalmont: yeah (23:51:33) ±Game:MeowMix voted for Zzyzx Road! (23:51:40) Zzyzx Road: oh yeah (23:51:42) Zzyzx Road: we suck (23:51:42) jalmont: so i do that and what comes up is a tl;dr (23:51:46) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:51:46) Times Up! : (23:51:46) ±Game: MeowMix (Electric Lime) was removed from the game! (23:51:46) Current Roles: Chocolate, Peppermint, Super Sundae. (23:51:46) Current Players: Bob, Zzyzx Road, jalmont. (23:51:46) Current Team: Chocolate, Peppermint (23:51:46) Time: Night (23:51:46) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! : (23:51:46) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:51:53) ±Game: You have chosen to distract Bob! (23:52:01) Zzyzx Road: I didn't realise we were at four (23:52:03) jalmont: who is mafia (23:52:05) jalmont: bob is it you (23:52:06) Bob forfeited against Xclus|Zoro. (23:52:08) Bob: me (23:52:11) jalmont: i knew it (23:52:14) Battle between Xclus|Zoro and Bob started. (23:52:14) jalmont: bob is a bad man (23:52:15) Zzyzx Road: I distracted MeowMix since n1 (23:52:16) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:52:16) Times Up! : (23:52:16) You melted! (23:52:16) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, Zzyzx Road the Peppermint ice cream melted. (23:52:16) Cloudy whipped cream.... Delectable chocolate sauce... And to top it off, a cherry! Oh, what a wonderful ice cream jalmont the Sundae is. (23:52:16) ±Game: The Traditional Creamz (Bob) lose! (23:52:16) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:52:18) Xclus|Zoro won against Bob. (23:53:20) Hey Day: Rainbow attempts to use server command (23:54:32) Fuzzysqurl: Daykill has "charges": 1, it should be "recharge": 99 (23:54:36) Bob: yeah (23:54:39) Fuzzysqurl: charges are invalid with standby actions and this one with lesser people, played first: Spoiler (23:33:21) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:33:21) Times Up! : (23:33:21) The Roles have been Decided! : (23:33:21) ±Game: You are a Black Cherry! (23:33:21) ±Game: You're the Black Cherry! With malicious intent and sourness, you share a kill with your team! Type /kill [name] to use it! (23:33:21) ±Game: Your team is Zzyzx Road (Black Cherry). (23:33:21) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint, Rainbow, Super Sundae, Vanilla, Vanilla. (23:33:21) Current Players: Bob, Fuzzysqurl, Hey Day, Li Q. Assir, MeowMix, Nainil, Zzyzx Road, afkyucumber. (23:33:21) Current Team: Black Cherry (23:33:21) Time: Night (23:33:21) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! : (23:33:21) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:33:28) Hey Day: what is this, ice cream? (23:33:32) Li Q. Assir: yes (23:33:52) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:33:52) Times Up! : (23:33:52) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, Bob the Vanilla ice cream melted. (23:33:52) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:33:52) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint, Rainbow, Super Sundae, Vanilla. (23:33:52) Current Players: Fuzzysqurl, Hey Day, Li Q. Assir, MeowMix, Nainil, Zzyzx Road, afkyucumber. (23:33:52) Current Team: Black Cherry (23:33:52) Time: Day (23:33:52) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:33:52) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:33:53) Fuzzysqurl: Kuja here. Link on me (23:34:01) afkyucumber: Nainil is the D (23:34:03) Li Q. Assir: other vanilla here (23:34:09) *** *********************************************************************** *** (23:34:09) ±Side: The Happy Hybrids consists of August Freeze, Cotton Candy, Maple Nut, Rocky Road. (23:34:09) ±Side: The Random Rainbow consists of Rainbow. (23:34:09) ±Side: The Sour Sorbets consists of Black Cherry, Electric Lime, Lemon Meringue, Orange Sherbet. (23:34:09) ±Side: The Sundae Cream consists of Super Sundae. (23:34:09) ±Side: The Sweetly Strange consists of Cappucino, Choco Nutty, Peanut Butter, Pistachio, Rhubarb Crumble. (23:34:09) ±Side: The Traditional Creamz consists of Butter Pecan, Chocolate, Cookies n' Cream, Cookies n' Cream, Flying Bubble Gum, French Vanilla, Fudge, Fudge, Green Tea, Lil' Gum, Peppermint, Rum & Raisin, Strawberry, Vanilla. (23:34:09) *** *********************************************************************** *** (23:34:20) Nainil: What's a D? (23:34:20) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:34:20) ±Game: SUNDAE IN YOUR FACE! Argh! afkyucumber was surprised, and his face is covered in Sundae! Wow! (23:34:20) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, afkyucumber the Rainbow ice cream melted. (23:34:20) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:34:21) Li Q. Assir: HEY, LISTEN! I got fudge! (23:34:22) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:34:22) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint, Super Sundae, Vanilla. (23:34:22) Current Players: Fuzzysqurl, Hey Day, Li Q. Assir, MeowMix, Nainil, Zzyzx Road. (23:34:22) Current Team: Black Cherry (23:34:22) Time: Day (23:34:22) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (23:34:22) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:34:23) Zzyzx Road: Rocky Road's a flavour? (23:34:24) Zzyzx Road: :o (23:34:29) Li Q. Assir: pro pm (23:34:33) Li Q. Assir: prs* (23:34:42) Li Q. Assir: pepper and chocolate (23:34:44) Li Q. Assir: pm fast (23:34:45) Hey Day: this is a pro them (23:34:47) Hey Day: *theme (23:34:49) MeowMix: I'm pepper (23:34:53) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:34:53) Times Up! : (23:34:53) No one was voted off! : (23:34:53) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:34:53) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Fudge, Peppermint, Super Sundae, Vanilla. (23:34:53) Current Players: Fuzzysqurl, Hey Day, Li Q. Assir, MeowMix, Nainil, Zzyzx Road. (23:34:53) Current Team: Black Cherry (23:34:53) Time: Night (23:34:53) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! : (23:34:53) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:34:55) Li Q. Assir: ... (23:34:57) MeowMix: oh bs (23:34:58) ±Game: You have chosen to kill MeowMix! (23:35:00) *** Li Q. Assir has to connect (23:35:08) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Li Q. Assir! (23:35:23) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:35:23) Times Up! : (23:35:23) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, Li Q. Assir the Vanilla ice cream melted. (23:35:23) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, Fuzzysqurl the Fudge ice cream melted. (23:35:23) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:35:23) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Peppermint, Super Sundae. (23:35:23) Current Players: Hey Day, MeowMix, Nainil, Zzyzx Road. (23:35:23) Current Team: Black Cherry (23:35:23) Time: Day (23:35:23) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:35:23) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:35:24) MeowMix: bg on me? (23:35:30) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:35:30) ±Game: SUNDAE IN YOUR FACE! Argh! MeowMix was surprised, and his face is covered in Sundae! Wow! (23:35:30) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, MeowMix the Peppermint ice cream melted. (23:35:30) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:35:38) Li Q. Assir: fail game? (23:35:39) Hey Day: dem daykills (23:35:41) Hey Day: lol (23:35:47) Hey Day: well there's still 3 people left (23:35:55) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:35:55) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Super Sundae. (23:35:55) Current Players: Hey Day, Nainil, Zzyzx Road. (23:35:55) Current Team: Black Cherry (23:35:55) Time: Day (23:35:55) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! : (23:35:55) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:35:59) Hey Day: I like the theme myself (23:36:04) Zzyzx Road: pretty confusing (23:36:06) Zzyzx Road: but not bad (23:36:08) Xclus|Zoro joined the channel. (23:36:11) Nainil: Black Cherry ice cream eh (23:36:15) Hey Day: well it should be confusing, it's the first time we're playing it (23:36:24) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:36:24) Times Up! : (23:36:24) No one was voted off! : (23:36:24) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:36:24) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Chocolate, Super Sundae. (23:36:24) Current Players: Hey Day, Nainil, Zzyzx Road. (23:36:24) Current Team: Black Cherry (23:36:24) Time: Night (23:36:24) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! : (23:36:24) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:36:28) Battle between Bob and Xclus|Zoro started. (23:36:29) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Nainil! (23:36:55) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:36:55) Times Up! : (23:36:55) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, Nainil the Chocolate ice cream melted. (23:36:55) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:36:55) Current Roles: Black Cherry, Super Sundae. (23:36:55) Current Players: Hey Day, Zzyzx Road. (23:36:55) Current Team: Black Cherry (23:36:55) Time: Day (23:36:55) You have 30 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! : (23:36:55) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:36:56) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** (23:36:56) ±Game: SUNDAE IN YOUR FACE! Argh! Zzyzx Road was surprised, and his face is covered in Sundae! Wow! (23:36:56) ±Ice Creamz: Aww, Zzyzx Road the Black Cherry ice cream melted. (23:36:56) Cloudy whipped cream.... Delectable chocolate sauce... And to top it off, a cherry! Oh, what a wonderful ice cream Hey Day the Sundae is. (23:36:56) ***~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~ <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~*** I say it's too early for a daykiller. Another thing I noticed was that Electric Lime adds another distract to the game, way too early. Makes the game draggy.
also just a small nitpick, but why does peppermint's distract get priority over all other roles? it should be in the same prio branch as the others. also, rainbow should appear later, since unless there is some crossfire in small games it skews the game a bit.
I wouldn't say too early for a daykiller, but this must be really well thought. Super Sundae seems to be a bit OP. And also: 2 mafias, a WW, a consp and village makes village UP in 9 people game, mainly because of Sundae's Daykill.
After playtesting- 1. Super Sundae DEFINITELY OP at small games. 2. Need to playtest with more people to determine chaos with more people... we only played games with almost minimum.
Right here's the list of stuff that you mentioned: 1) Sundae is OP because it gets daykills ... Lol. So charges doesn't work with daykills, and it has to be recharge 9999. Ouch. 2) Electric Lime is the draggiest thing ever Okay, I've made him appear later in the game. 3) Rainbow's 'help' uses a server command, and server commands take priority Changed to assist. 4) BALANCE ASDFGHJKL This is the hardest problem of all; can only be tested by playtesting in bigger games, or once uploaded? 5) Rainbow comes in too early It comes later, and it's replaced with Orange Sherbet which is pretty eh. 6) Peppermint's PL is first while the others are... Yeah. I didn't realize other PLs besides Peppermint's were slower than BGs and SGs. Fixed so they're same prio as pepper. That's about it. The major problem now is balance.
The theme seems okay, save for obviously the issues that were raised in testing, with priorities and powerful roles coming in too early, which obviously I will not repeat again here. My main concern is with the command names. While when the theme becomes familiar to people these may not prove a problem, some of them could be confusing to remember in the spur of the moment. I am not going to make a decision at this time, just see how this theme develops with changes for the time being.
I love the concept of the French Vanilla. Also, with the one with a random vote from -40 to 101, it says it only goes up to 100. Either change the help or the votecount.
ninja'd - also that ^ I don't see 100 to 101 as a big difference since the games will barely go over 40 players in the most crowded day lol
Well, I don't see any problems with it now, only issues could be in bigger games, but we'll sort that out eventually. People who helped testing seem to have loved the theme (as did I) so I'm going to approve [1].
I don't know if I have said this yet but you don't need the teamReveal: 0 in the code. Why is French Vanilla's distract priority of 100? Why not make it 1 so they can't be distracted from distracting themselves? Spoiler { "role": "peanut", "translation": "Peanut Butter", "side": "mafia2", "info": "Gets 10% hax on Chocolate. Can protect itself. When chocolate dies, converts itself to Choco Nutty. Sided with the Sweetly Strange.", "help": "You're the Peanut Butter! Since you go so well with Chocolate, you have a 10% of haxing who the chocolate is! You can protect yourself with /peanut [yourname], until the Chocolate melts, when you combine with them to become even tastier! ", "actions": { "night": { "peanut": { "command": "protect", "priority": 13, "common": "Self", "target": "OnlySelf", "broadcast": "Team" } }, "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles", "hax": { "choco": { "revealTeam": 0, "revealPlayer": 0.1 } } } }, [/HIDE] You had the target as Self meaning they would still be able to protect other people with it. I think you meant for it to be only useable on themselves so the bold part is what you need to change. :) August Freeze's "info" doesn't say they can kill. I would also suggest having and "info" thing for Rainbow because right now the info would say can assist, active and passive. If I repeated anything then I am sorry.
"I scream, you scream, we all scream for... ICE CREAM (mafia theme)! ♥"... unless when my throat hurts, like at this moment. There are some things I think that should be pointed out, that I missed the first time I reviewed it: - Rhubarb Crumble's help message: "...You taste awesome, so you get a single daykill using /crumble..." The single may cause a small confusion, thinking they can kill a single time per game, instead of every day, as shown at the info and the code. - August Freeze's help message says it gets hax on ALL night actions, but there are some of them you are forgetting. Should it be like this is right now or the "forgotten" actions are actually not forgotten and you wanted it bo be like it is? I miss melt, call, cream and coffee, but there may be others that I didn't see too... - The point on giving August Freeze so many hax is for it to know almost everyone on the game, right? So I think that it is a bit pointless giving it the higher hax on Team. Maybe if you lowered it to 10% too, so they won't spam that much at August Freeze's player screen or simply taking it out, leaving just the revealPlayer (there are too many commands that can be haxed, if some information are not useful, it will be just a spam at the player's chat) Do you undertand it? "The Traditional Creamz is going to drunk Angel Flonne." What will the August Freeze do about it? - Peanut Butter/Choco Nutty is very unlikely to win, if it is the last members of its team standing. Angel, my throat won't hurt forever, the things I pointed are minor, and some of them can even not be changed, so I have to approve [2] it! I think that most characteristics of the theme are nice and it is ready to be played.
I still wish we had chocolate chip cookie dough flavor. >.> Oh well, I'll approve3 this. *leaves, but not before stealing all the yummy ice cream to eat later.*
Approve [4] I don't have anything else to say. You worked really hard and it is fun to play. Another great theme. :) Also, I am proud that my first approval was on a theme of yours. Your theme is like the ribbon cutting of Approvals. :D
approve [5] as you have certainly spiced up this ice cream theme (eww) however i do still have reservations over the confusing nature of the interactions, however i do believe that it may be fun and i would certainly wish to see it played firsthand
D: Hopefully your throat gets better. Also, I gave Choco Nutty +3 votes and the rest I have fixed. Thanks for pointing them out. Gimme my ice cream D: Also, I might make Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough flavour. Sometime. Oh, Beast. I had to beg you like I begged all the other QCs. But you did. Didn't you say you wanted yours to be the last approval? o3o Draaaaapht! Thanks for responding to my PM. And uh, I c wut u did ther. Thanks for the approves, everyone! Keep them coming~! ♥
Seems like a really interesting theme. Most of my concerns have been covered already, but I think the description for Cotton Candy might need to be altered a bit. I couldn't tell without looking at the code what exactly /fluff would do (at least, the distraction part). Thin you might wanna make that just a tad clearer. Otherwise, you have my approval [6]. Nice job, Flonne~.
Seeing that the play-test has been done and that the major balance issues have mostly been solved, I can now give this an approval [8]. By the way you need >50% of QC approval and since we're 17 that number is at 9 approvals.
I totally agree with Samphire, just make the command be /protect when it is about protecting, and /kill when it comes to killing... I, personnally, just hate customized commands when they aren't really needed, they just make you lose time or even lose a game, as it happened to me twice today with Venus' /shine (distract) and Chocolate's /choco (protect). :< It also makes it easier for people that are new to mafia. But then, it's your theme! :v
(12:45:33) ±Role: Strawberry (12:45:33) ±Ability: Inspects as Black Cherry. Sided with Good People. (12:45:33) ±Game: 7-10, 12-19, 22-32 Players Little glitch I found in /roles. Good People shouldn't be the side. /sides displays correctly though.