MY take on Pokemon.

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  1. Mr.Anonymous

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    {
    "name": "Pokemon",
    "author" : "Mr.Anonymous",
    "sides": [
    { "side": "mafia1", "translation": "Legendaries"
    },
    { "side": "mafia", "translation": "Eon Duo"
    },
    { "side": "mafia2", "translation": "Pseudo-legendaries"
    },
    { "side": "village", "translation": "Good Pokemon"
    },
    { "side": "werewolf", "translation": "Arceus"
    }
    ],
    "roles": [{
    "role": "villager",
    "translation": "Magikarp",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Your signature move is Splash. That’s the only thing you can do at night, also, voting people out. ",
    "actions": {}
    }, {
    "role": "inspector",
    "translation": "Musharna",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Use your Telepathy to /inspect someone during the night. Do NOT claim if Arceus or Tyranitar is around.",
    "actions": { "night": {"inspect": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 30} } }
    }, {
    "role": "bodyguard",
    "translation": "Snorlax",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are known as the lazy Pokemon, however when you need to be you are one of the most powerful Pokemon. Use /protect to protect one person during the night. You can’t be poisoned, due to your ability Immunity.",
    "actions": { "night": {"protect": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Role", "priority": 1, "broadcast": "role"} },
    "poison": {"mode": "ignore"} }
    }, {
    "role": "mafia",
    "translation": "Latias",
    "side": "mafia",
    "help": "Use your powerful Mist Ball attack to /kill one person during the night.",
    "actions": { "night": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Self", "priority": 11, "broadcast": "team"} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}
    }, {
    "role": "samurai1",
    "translation": "Latios",
    "side": "mafia",
    "help": "Help Latias win by doing /kill during the standby phase. YOU WILL BE REVEALED IF YOU KILL SO ONLY KILL IF NECESSARY",
    "actions": { "standby": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name] :",
    "killmsg": "~Self~ (Latios) used Luster Purge on ~Target~. A Critical Hit!. ~Target~ fainted."} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}
    }, {
    "role": "werewolf",
    "translation": "Arceus",
    "side": "werewolf",
    "help": "You are the most powerful Pokemon in existence, everything and everyone fears you. You cause devastation wherever you go. You can kill during BOTH phases. You can’t be distracted.",
    "actions": { "night": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Self", "priority": 5, "broadcast": "team"} },
    "standby": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name] :",
    "killmsg": "Arceus used Judgement on ~Target~ (~Role~). Critical Hit! ~Target~ (~Role~) fainted."} },
    "distract": {"mode": "ignore"}}


    }, {
    "role": "hooker",
    "translation": "Milotic",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are the most beautiful Pokemon in existence, Use /distract to distract one person during the night.",
    "actions": { "night": {"distract": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 3} } }
    }, {
    "role": "mayor",
    "translation": "Chansey",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are known as the Happy Pokemon, Many people and Pokemon become happy when they instantly see you. You have a vote of 3 because people will usually listen to your advice. Your incredibly high special defense allows you to /protect one person every 2 nights.",
    "actions": { "night": {"protect": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 1, "recharge": 2} },
    "vote": 3 }
    }, {
    "role": "spy",
    "translation": "Alakazam",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You can find out who is going to get killed next (There is also a chance of finding a bad person). You also get a /stalk to find out who someone visited. ",
    "actions": { "night":{ "stalk": { "target": "AnyButSelf","common": "Self","priority": 16}},
    "hax": {"kill": { "revealTeam": 0.2, "revealPlayer": 0.1} } }

    }, {
    "role": "safeguarder",
    "translation": "Toxicroak",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Due to being part poison type, you can’t be poisoned, /safeguard one person during the night from being poisoned also. If you die, the person that killed you will be poisoned due to Poison Touch",
    "actions": { "night": {"safeguard": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 2} },
    "kill": {"mode": "poisonattacker","count": 1,"poisonDeadMessage": "You were hurt by Toxicroak’s poison and you died."},
    "distract": {"mode": "ignore"}}

    }, {
    "role": "mafia1",
    "translation": "Kyogre",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "You are one of the strongest Pokemon in existence, /kill one person during the night.",
    "actions": { "night": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Team", "priority": 12, "broadcast": "team"} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}
    }, {
    "role": "inspector1",
    "translation": "Cresselia",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "Use your move Future Sight to /inspect one person during the night. You also get a SHARED kill during the night. It would be best if you got Groudon to protect you.",
    "actions": { "night": {"inspect": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Self", "priority": 31 },
    "kill": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Team", "priority": 12, "broadcast": "team"} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}
    }, {
    "role": "bodyguard1",
    "translation": "Regigigas",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "Due to your ability Slow Start, you are very weak during night one, however, if you survive to night 4, you can kill 2 people. To convert after 4 nights, type /convert. You get a kill during the night, but it is shared. Whereas after n4, the kills aren’t shared.",
    "actions": {"night": { "convert": { "target": "OnlySelf", "common":"Self", "priority": 1,"newRole": "regi1", "canConvert": ["bodyguard1" ], "silent": true, "initialrecharge" : 4},
    "kill": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Team", "priority": 35} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}
    }, {
    "role": "mafbg",
    "translation": "Groudon",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "You need to protect Cresselia from dying, by doing /protect on Cresselia. You have a chance of finding other protectors.",
    "actions": { "night": {"protect": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 1, "broadcast": "role"} },
    "hax": {"protect": { "revealTeam": 0.33, "revealPlayer": 0.1} },

    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}

    }, {
    "role": "regi1",
    "translation": "Regigigas",
    "side": "mafia1",
    "help": "Your Slow Start ability has now worn off, you can now /kill 2 people during the night by doing /kill",
    "actions": { "night": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 35, "limit" : 2} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}

    }, {
    "role": "inspector3",
    "translation": "Metagross",
    "side": "mafia2",
    "help": "Your Scary Face move allows you to distract 2 people during the night. You also have a kill but it is shared with your team.",
    "actions": { "night": {"distract": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 7, "limit" : 2 },
    "kill": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Team", "priority": 15, "broadcast": "team"} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}
    }, {
    "role": "mafiaboss1",
    "translation": "Salamence",
    "side": "mafia2",
    "help": "You have really powerful attack and your hidden ability Moxie lets you increase your attack. Your powerful Dragon Claw attack can also /kill two people during the night (THIS IS NOT SHARED WITH THE OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR TEAM).",
    "actions": { "night": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Self", "priority": 12, "broadcast": "team", "limit" : 2} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}
    }, {
    "role": "mafiaboss2",
    "translation": "Tyranitar",
    "side": "mafia2",
    "help": "Your powerful attack helps you immensely during the voting phase by giving you a vote of 5. You also get a daykill every 2 turns.",
    "actions": { "standby": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name] :",
    "killmsg": "Tyranitar used Stone Edge on ~Target~ (~Role~). Critical Hit!. ~Target~ fainted.", "recharge": 2} },
    "vote": 5,
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}
    }, {
    "role": "samurai",
    "translation": "Ursaring",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Your powerful attack lets you /kill one person during the day. YOU WILL BE REVEALED IF YOU KILL DURING THE DAY",
    "actions": { "standby": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "msg": "You can kill now using /kill [name] :",
    "killmsg": "~Self~ (Ursaring) shreds ~Target~ (~Role~) to pieces with its claws."} } }
    }, {
    "role": "miller",
    "translation": "Phione",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Your status as a legendary Pokemon is often disputed, therefore, inspectors will see you as a Legendary Pokemon.",
    "actions": { "inspect": {"revealAs": ["mafia1", "bodyguard1", "inspector1"]} }
    }, {
    "role": "miller1",
    "translation": "Volcarona",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You are often confused as a pseudo-legendary, you will be seen as a pseudo-legendary.",
    "actions": { "inspect": {"revealAs": ["mafiaboss2", "mafiaboss1", "inspector3", "killer"]} }
    }, {
    "role": "killer",
    "translation": "Garchomp",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Your Sand Veil ability allows you to evade some kills during the night (30% of the time). You also get a kill THAT is shared with the other pseudo-legendary because of your high attack stats.",
    "actions": { "night": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButTeam", "common": "Team", "priority": 12, "broadcast": "team"} },
    "kill": {"mode": { "evadeChance": 0.3} },
    "startup": "team-reveal-with-roles"}

    }, {
    "role": "vigilante",
    "translation": "Slaking",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You have stats that match a Legendary Pokemon. However, due to your ability Truant, you can /kill two people every other night.",
    "actions": { "night": {"kill": {"target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 11, "limit" : 2, "recharge": 2} } }
    }, {
    "role": "extra",
    "translation": "Ditto",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "You can transform into any Pokemon. You should wait until an important role is dead then convert. To transform into inspector type /transform1, bodyguard - /transform2 and vigilante /transform3, Samurai – /transform4, safeguarder – /transform5 and spy – /transform6 and last but not least Pretty Lady - /transform7",
    "actions": {"night": { "transform1": { "command": "convert","target": "OnlySelf", "common":"Self", "priority": 1,"newRole": "inspector", "canConvert": ["extra" ], "silent": true },
    "transform2": { "command": "convert","target": "OnlySelf", "common":"Self", "priority": 1,"newRole": "bodyguard", "canConvert": ["extra" ], "silent": true },
    "transform3": { "command": "convert","target": "OnlySelf", "common":"Self", "priority": 1,"newRole": "vigilante", "canConvert": ["extra" ], "silent": true },
    "transform4": { "command": "convert","target": "OnlySelf", "common":"Self", "priority": 1,"newRole": "samurai", "canConvert": ["extra" ], "silent": true },
    "transform5": { "command": "convert","target": "OnlySelf", "common":"Self", "priority": 1,"newRole": "safeguarder", "canConvert": ["extra" ], "silent": true },
    "transform6": { "command": "convert","target": "OnlySelf", "common":"Self", "priority": 1,"newRole": "spy", "canConvert": ["extra" ], "silent": true },
    "transform7": { "command": "convert","target": "OnlySelf", "common":"Self", "priority": 1,"newRole": "hooker", "canConvert": ["extra" ], "silent": true}}}
    }, {
    "role": "poisoner",
    "translation": "Muk",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Your poisonous body is deadly to anyone who touches you, You can poison 2 people during the night with /toxic. However, that poison will make them faint in 3 turns.",
    "actions": { "night": {"toxic": {"command": "poison", "target": "AnyButSelf", "common": "Self", "priority": 25, "limit": 2, "count": 3 } } }
    }, {
    "role": "bomb",
    "translation": "Forretress",
    "side": "village",
    "help": "Capable of learning Explosion and Selfdestruct and also being Bug/Steel type, whoever attacks you during the night and during the day gets killed along with you and you can’t be poisoned.",
    "actions": { "daykill": "bomb","daykillrevengemsg": "~Target~ tried to attack ~Self~ (Forretress). Forretress Selfdestructed and both ~Self~ and ~Target~ died.",
    "kill": { "mode": "killattacker"},
    "poison": {"mode": "ignore"} }


    }],

    "roles1": ["bodyguard", "mafia", "inspector", "werewolf", "hooker", "villager", "samurai1",
    "villager", "miller", "villager", "mayor"],

    "roles2": ["bodyguard", "mafia1", "mafia1", "inspector", "hooker", "villager", "villager",
    "spy", "villager", "villager", "poisoner", "mayor", "villager", "villager", "villager",
    "inspector1", "bodyguard1", "mafiaboss1", "werewolf", "killer", "extra", "vigilante", "safeguarder", "inspector3",
    "mafiaboss2", "samurai", "villager", "villager", "villager", "mafia1",
    "miller", "bodyguard"],
    "villageCantLoseRoles": ["mayor", "vigilante", "samurai"]
    }
    [/HIDE]

    Since Pokemon hasn't been accepted, I thought I'd make my OWN version of Pokemon.
    1) No I did NOT steal ANY roles from Cake's Pokemon theme. ALL ideas from this theme are my ideas and my ideas only.
    2) It was obvious that Milotic would be Pretty Lady because it's said to be the most beautiful Pokemon in existence.
    3) Magikarp as villager was obvious also because of its horrendous stats.
    4) I tried to relate the roles to the games as much as possible.
    5) If the theme gets accepted, it will be constantly updated.


    _______________________

    Roles :

    Village:

    There is the basic roles of Villager (Magikarp) , Pretty Lady (Milotic), Inspector (Musharna) and Bodyguard (Snorlax, Who can't be poisoned due to Immunity ability)

    There's a safeguarder (Toxicroak, who can't be poisoned itself), samurai (Ursaring) and vigilante (Slaking, who kills 2 people every 2 nights because of Truant ability).


    Chansey is Mayor (With 3 votes, Because it brings happiness to all people and because Serene Grace so like Serene Grace gives Chansey 3 votes because of likely effects.)

    Miller is Phione (Due to disputed status as a "Legendary Pokemon"

    Muk is basic poisoner who can poison 2 people during the night and takes 3 turns to die (Because normally poison takes 3 turns for a Pokemon to faint in the games)

    Ditto is a converter who can transform into a PR if they die (Appears only in big games and because of Ditto's signature move Transform)

    Alakazam is Spy because Psychic abilities amongst other things.

    Legendaries Side:

    Kyogre (Basic mafia because of high special attack and Sheer Cold)
    Cresselia (Inspector because of Psychic abilities)
    Regigigas (Who doesn't get any commands during N1 - N4 but can convert to Regigigas who can protect 3 people during the night - [Because of Slow Start])

    Pseudo Legendaries:

    Metagross (Who is an exposer because of Psychic abilities and also Psychic type.
    Salamence = Basic mafia who kills 2 people because of high attack and Moxie.
    Tyranitar = Mayor with 10 votes and 45% chance of evading nightkills, because Sand Stream and high special defense and defense


    Other roles:
    Arceus is similar to Hades (Because most powerful Pokemon in existence and supposed "creator" of all Pokemon.



    CHANGES MADE:

    - Changed Regigigas to make him kill 2 people after 4 nights, while having a shared kill night 1
    - Made Metagross a distractor who distracts 2 people, who also gets a shared kill.
    - Tyranitar now has a vote of 5 and a 2 turn recharge non-reveal daykill.
    - Cresselia now has an inspect + a shared kill (Similar to Vayne from FF)
    - Groudon now has a protect who also gets hax on other protectors.
    - Added a new miller (Volcarona, who gets inspected as a pseudo-legendary)
    - Added Garchomp who gets a shared kill but also gets a 30% chance of evading nightkills (because Sand Veil)
    - Made Arceus appear earlier.
    - Made Alakazam a spy stalker.
    - Gave Chansey a 2 turn recharge protect
    - Added a day and night bomb who can't be poisoned.

    ________

    SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/CRITICISM WELCOME!
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2012
  2. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    I would put all the text back to normal size.

    Your description of ditto makes it sound like ditto transforms when HE dies. I would fix that.
    If you want regigigas to have slow start give it an initialrecharge of 4. If you like the convert thing the i would do it a day earlier since convert takes a day.

    Please change the text back to normal.

    Edit: You have a space after in your name "Pokemon ". It isn't a big deal but it bothers me.
     
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  3. Narshen

    Narshen Dragon Lord

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    Latios and Latias are on different teams, even though their descriptions indicate otherwise.

    Village seems uninspired at best and downright lazy at worst. Mafia groups are drastically underpowered - there are a total of THREE roles that can kill on the enemy side (Salamence, Kyogre and Arceus). Regigigas is worthless, Cresselia is very niche, having a mafia exposer (Metagross) is silly since it actually makes the village stronger. Tyranitar seems completely arbitrary but manages to actually be the best mafiateam role in the game (not saying much, though). Arceus doesn't even appear until the 29th person joins. That means that there are exactly TWO enemy killers up until that point.

    There are several problems with this theme and I don't think anything short of an overhaul will fix them. If I had to make a guess as to why this theme turned out like this, I'd say it's because you paid too much attention to "what Pokemon should I put into this slot?" and not enough attention to "Is this a good role? Is it balanced? Does the village need this?" and so on, so forth. You paid more attention to form over function - a crucial mistake. REJECT
     
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  4. Mr.Anonymous

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    I've made the following changes:

    - Changed Regigigas to make him kill 2 people after 4 nights, while having a shared kill night 1
    - Made Metagross a distractor who distracts 2 people, who also gets a shared kill.
    - Tyranitar now has a vote of 5 and a 2 turn recharge non-reveal daykill.
    - Cresselia now has an inspect + a shared kill (Similar to Vayne from FF)
    - Groudon now has a protect who also gets hax on other protectors.
    - Added a new miller (Volcarona, who gets inspected as a pseudo-legendary)
    - Added Garchomp who gets a shared kill but also gets a 30% chance of evading nightkills (because Sand Veil)
    - Made Arceus appear earlier.

    Errors fixed :
    - Fixed some of the roles descriptions
    - Fixed some of the sides
    - Added new roles
     
  5. t3 the third

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    I'm confused why you put Arceus on the village's side in the summary while the code says that he's a solo.

    Trying to explain your choices for the roles is rather useless since Mafia QC looks for content, not the superficial skin. Your Village seems pretty bland. Same as default but with a double poisoner and a safeguarder. Slaking has target set to "AnyButTeam" and broadcast "Team" which is a terrible, terrible choice. As for the safeguard, I'm guessing it's only supposed to protect from poisons and inspects but if you intend to make it prevent distracts then you should lower the distracts' priority and put the safeguard on top.

    The mafias are terrible UP compared to the village. The other mafia members cannot win if the killer dies as they don't have kills in common. I get that you were trying to lower the amount of kills but this isn't the optimal way. Tyranitar is probably the only mafia that is actually semi-interesting.

    Anyway, I agree with Deria's point. Reject.
     
  6. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Actually, this is a really big deal. No one other than people who can use /eval (AKA Server Owners) will be able to start, vote, update or remove this theme because of that extra space, since PO will trim any white space left at the right of your message.
     
  7. Mr.Anonymous

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    Changes :
    - Made Alakazam a spy stalker.
    - Gave Chansey a 2 turn recharge protect
     
  8. Zzyzx Road

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    Oh man, another theme based on the flavor. How many times? Reject.
     
  9. fitzy

    fitzy Heart of the cards Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Deria p.much said what I would sayDecline. The village really does look under powered.
     
  10. Vietpride

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    To me this is like WWW but with Uber tier mixed in with lower tiers. Compared to Cake's theme, this theme lacks originality and balancing issues. Mafia1 has the biggest advantage and Ditto's transformation is confusing because you have to read the description for each transformation instead of knowing right off the back. Decline.
     
  11. Professor Oak

    Professor Oak same Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep

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    Garchomp's description says it's with the pseudo-legendaries. However, it is sided with the village.

    I agree with the overall opinion - I cannot see this being an appealing theme, as it focuses too much on the flavour of the theme and not the gameplay.

    Reject.
     
  12. Mr.Anonymous

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    Bumping this because of the changes made as outlined in the original post. (Dunno if you read that)
     
  13. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Regigas can convert to Musharna... wat?
    And overall, roles and sides are quite... plain. Mafia teams doesn't even need to organize themselves, they can simply go randkilling. And that's not too different for village either.
     
  14. Samphire

    Samphire Too much hard work!

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    Sorry, I am going to have to concur.
    Decline.
     
  15. Demonic Cake

    Demonic Cake The cake is not a lie...

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    If this does get through, it should be renamed, as I WILL be working on Pokemon again once I can get better feedback. I can't look at much now, sort of busy. (And don't even think of calling it Pokemon II, that's what I'm working on.)
     
  16. Mr.Anonymous

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    Some of the roles in this theme are similar to roles in FF.
     
  17. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    This doesn't mean anything if you only look at the roles and ignore side's concept and consistency. Only throwing existing roles or roles with new action combinations with no regards to how those roles will operate as a team rarely ends well.
     
  18. Mr.Anonymous

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    But the concept of the legendaries side is similar to the Sin side in FF.
    Cresselia/Vayne can Inspect + Kill.
    Kyogre/Larsa can kill.
    Groudon/Judge can protect.

    The only difference is that Judge has a vote of 2.
    Heck, Groudon is even similar to Auron except instead of getting hacks on Distract, it gets hacks on Protect.

    But that's only one side and I guess I should make the other sides consistent also and give them a better concept.
     
  19. Demonic Cake

    Demonic Cake The cake is not a lie...

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    ...why are Groudon/Kyogre/Cresselia on a team? It doesn't make sense. At least Latias/os/Cresselia did even slightly...
    Also still change name please :x
     
  20. Mr.Anonymous

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    Did you not notice the "Legendaries" side ? I put them on the same team because they're legendary Pokemon.
     
  21. Vietpride

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    There is only 1 role that can poison, and the other is a poison bomb. Do you really need a safeguarder to make the village a better edges with the Psuedo legendaries abilities to distract twice, day kill every 2 turns, outvotes the mayor, and the mafia boss gets 2 kills and is not shared. While the legendaries gets only 2 kills, an inspect, and a protect. There a problem with the role description in the first Regigigas, where it does not fit in the description of what you can do after the convert. I do not see any balance in this theme, so therefore decline once more.
     
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